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Reviewer: Rhett
Review Date: August 12, 2005

Released by: Blue Underground
Release date: 9/30/2005
MSRP: $34.95
Region 0, NTSC
Widescreen 1.78:1 | 16x9: Yes

“So you think you got it all figured out
You're an expert in the field, without a doubt
But I know your methods inside and out
And I won't be takin' in by Fire and ice”
-Pat Benatar, Fire and Ice

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The Story

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That is not to say that the film is without merit, for there are many commendable moments. Bakshi is able to capture the intensity of the moment through some stunning slow motion scenes, a technique as underused in animation then as it is today. As Nekron’s minions storm Teegra’s palace, there is a sort of tragic beauty as they ravage the room of the heroine in distress. Also notable is one of the most phallic openings ever in a children’s movie, where Nekron overtakes a city with his mounts of ice. As he sexually twitches and thrives on his thrown, icebergs shoot up from the ground, each one more erect than the last. As he reaches the climax of his takeover, he gives a final thrust as the iceberg explodes into a semen-like spray of ice shards all over his victims. It is definitely not a moment of subtlety, but a moment of excess that Bakshi does best. If only the rest of the film proceeded with the unhinged perversity of its opening it would have been far more memorable.

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As it stands though, Fire and Ice is entertaining enough as an action film, but in watering down the best of both Frazetta and Bakshi, it leaves little to remember. Too routine to be memorable, too shoddily drawn to be beautiful, and too clean to be shocking, there is little of the film that actually lingers. Going back to the Benatar quote, it is a film by two experts of the field, without a doubt, but it is without the methods of these great artists we know inside and out. I was moderately entertained, sure, but I was never takin’ in by Fire and Ice.

Image Quality

Blue Underground presents Bakshi’s film in a fiery new 1.78:1 anamorphic widescreen. The first thing that is noticeable is just how vivid the colors look after all these years. While the animation may not have been entirely detailed, the color scheme was always an active one, with huge painted backgrounds with lengthy horizons and active skies. This transfer does surprising justice to the vivid color palette, and the restoration is especially impressive when you look at the clips from the film presented in the various extras throughout the two discs. The ice of the disc is the flurry of blemishes on the print throughout, however. The transfer is far from pristine, and there are several specs and scratches present throughout, at times noticeable and even distracting. The defects are never huge, but the constant speckling nonetheless takes away from a film that relies on solid colors and clear animation images. Still, what the Blue has done to the colors here is commendable, even if the print could be a lot cleaner.


Just as the enhanced colors were an eye opener for the visuals, the remastered sound here is a nice treat to the ears. Presented in 6.1 DTS-ES and Dolby Digital 5.1 EX, the track sounds surprisingly full and very clear. Although it starts off somewhat restricted to the front channels, it opens up to the backs later on and the rest of the film is filled with background ambience. Sword clinging, wolf growling and feet pattering move around the channels, and all sound sharp without sounding gimmicky. The score comes through forcefully but never overwhelms the audio. It isn’t an overly aggressive track, by any means, but it does make surprisingly good use of the home theater setup with its limited audio resources.

Supplemental Material

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Next up is the surprisingly superb “The Making of Fire and Ice”, a behind-the-scenes look at the picture made by Bakshi’s son during the time of filmmaking. It is the most in-depth look at the animation process I’ve seen, showing exactly how the Rotoscope process works, with several comparisons between the live action and animated footage. From there, it goes to look at the hand drawing portion of the principal animation, as well as the background painting and ultimately the capturing of each composite on film. It is transferred from VHS, so the quality is by no means great, but the substance of the documentary is more than worth the time. Running thirteen minutes, it is as captivating a piece as the making-of done by Vivian Kubrick on The Shining. Great stuff.

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Next is an eight minute interview with Bakshi, where he talks about working with Frazetta. Although most of the interview footage is featured again in the longer Painting With Fire documentary, it is perfect for those seeking behind the scenes anecdotes without wanted to spring for the two-disc. Bakshi tells some funny stories about working with Frazetta, like how they were able to look at hundreds of naked women while trying to cast for Teegra. “Not bad for a couple of guys from Brooklyn” he ends off in saying.

Sean Hannon, who played Larn in the live action photography of the shoot, kept a vivid and passionate diary of his first big film experience, and shares it with us over a nostalgic and energetic diary reading. He describes his opinions of Bakshi, and writes with an innocence of someone yet to be made cynical by the heartbreak that comes part and parcel with the film industry. He shares some good anecdotes, like how he channeled his anger at Bakshi into a fine performance, and how he had to deal with casting changes throughout the shoot. It is supported with a good array of behind the scenes photographs, and entertaining throughout. It runs a fast fourteen minutes.

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The first disc is rounded off with a behind-the-scenes still gallery and a theatrical trailer, but don’t let them fool you. The gallery is probably one of the largest the Underground has compiled, running thirteen minutes, and it is put together as a video file with wonderful orchestration throughout. The coolest feature is a subtitle option, which when turned on describes the picture, like mentioning where it was taken or who was in it. It is a good innovation, and one that works better than burning the subtitles in, since it leaves the original artwork uncluttered. This is where the extras end if you get the single disc, and for many that will be more than enough. But for those looking on the full story about Frank Frazetta, on to the second disc we go.

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After watching a segment though, it is tough to stop, as each one builds on the other and there is enough ingenuity and insight to keep Frazetta’s career interesting. Interviewed are a number of different comic illustrators, historians and aficionados, as well as a few unexpected guests. Bo Derek talks about how she likes how he did her curves, John Milius on his Conan the Barbarian and Glenn Danzig also gushes about the man. In fact, everyone on the disc gushes about Frazetta, and at times it seems like a total vanity piece. It would have been nice to offer a little perspective, but still, the people interviewed are more than just fanboys, they have substance to back their praise. The documentary would run a little better if it spent less time on his family life and the melodrama of his poor health. Too much time gets spent on these areas, and at times it seems a little manipulative and repetitive. A visit to his mother’s house doesn’t really show all the much, and the museum reception speech at the end is much too long winded. Overall though it paints a full and complete portrait of his life, and makes a strong argument on how he should be considered one of the greatest artists of the 1900s. For those both familiar and unfamiliar to Frank Frazetta, this documentary will be a delight to all.

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The second disc’s lone extra is a commentary with the director, Lance Laspina and the producer, Jeremy J. DiFiore. Compared to the Bakshi commentary it is much more by-the-numbers and dry. A lot of it is just kind of fawning over the various paintings exhibited throughout, but they do occasionally drop the good tidbit about making the documentary. Most interesting is how the majority of their budget went into acquiring the rights to the various clips from Conan the Barbarian in the film. The documentary provides more than enough information about Frazetta, so this commentary seems a little unnecessary.

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While the single disc will suit fans of the film just fine, those looking more for a window into the art of Frank Frazetta must pick up the two-disc. I found the documentary more entertaining than the film itself, since not only do we get many anecdotes and stories to think about, but we also great a collage of all of his seminal paintings. Seeing each painting in close detail on the documentary really helps to convey just how great of a visionary Frank Frazetta really was. Blue Underground has done both Frazetta and Fire justice with this great set. Oh, and the lenticular cover? Awesome.

Final Thoughts

Ralph Bakshi and Frank Frazetta are groundbreaking animators, but their visions seem compromised in this PG studio effort. There is not enough violence, language or gore to make the trite story last, and there is not enough detail to the animations to make them compare to a Frazetta painting. Fire and Ice is entertaining enough, but does not resonate nearly the way a Bakshi or Frazetta should. The DVD though is a creation much more commendable. The colors looks vivid while the remastered soundtrack rings sharp, and the extras are long and diverse. With a feature-length documentary, diary notes, still galleries, behind-the-scenes footage, audio commentaries and a trailer, this is a set with a little bit of everything. Blue Underground has put a lot of work into this set, and those with a great appreciation for Bakshi, Frazetta and the film itself shouldn’t be without this disc. Those looking to jump into the careers of Bakshi or Frazetta on film are better off seeking their more potent creations, like Fritz the Cat or Conan the Barbarian.


Movie - B-
Image Quality - B+
Sound - A-
Supplements - A

Technical Info.

Running Time - 1 hour 21 minutes
Rated PG
1 Discs
Chapter Stops
English DTS-ES 6.1
English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX
English Dolby Surround 2.0
English subtitles
French subtitles
Spanish subtitles

Disc One

Audio commentary with Ralph Bakshi and moderator Lance Laspina
The Making of Fire and Ice
Bakshi on Frazetta interview
Sean Hannon's Diary Notes
Behind-the-scenes still gallery
Theatrical Trailer

Disc Two

Frazetta: Painting With Fire documentary
Audio commentary with director Lance Laspina and producer Jeremy J. DiFiore

Other Pictures

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Amazing review of an amazing product. I can't wait to get my hands on this DVD. :-)

Congratulations Blue Underground for doing it right. :-)

Rhett, I can't believe you gave this a C. I'm really stunned.
For me, this definately adds perspective to your opinion.

Yeah, a C is a little harsh. I usually grade on a star system outside of these reviews, so it is a little tough to convert between the two. I'd hope more than a mere letter grade would influence your opinion, considering I wrote about 2000 words on the film. But you are right, a C doesn't really reflect the quality of a film, so I've changed it to a B-. Still a disappointment though.

Thanks For The Nod, Rhett.


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