About going Blu

Discussion in 'High Definition' started by NaturesMistake, Nov 15, 2009.

  1. NaturesMistake

    NaturesMistake Member

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    Let me start off by saying that I have wanted Blu-Ray since it beat out HD-DVD...

    However, I recently went hd, and you know what? I think I'm going to hold off on blu (I was almost ready to throw down on a player then and there). Hd on-demand and upscaled dvds look amazing (my 2001, Alien, and T2 dvds made me wet myself). My new television is a 50 inch Samsung plasma, so the size of the screen isn't an issue.

    Dawn of the Dead: Ultimate edition looked awesome as well.

    Mind you there is an extra depth on some films (Apocolypto HD blew my Standard def dvd out of the water, but there were a couple of upscaled dvds that hung in with their hd broadcast counterparts).

    As I see it, I just don't see the need to upgrade as of yet...

    The true killer of my faith in blu was when I saw a midnight Screening of Aliens. It wasn't until after the showing that I found out they used a dvd and upscaled it on their projector...

    Blu looks good (a bit better than the HD broadcasts) but not good enough to re-buy all my favorite films (especially when upconversion using the proper cables looks so damn good).

    ...and yes, I can spot the differences, I have 20/20 vision, I just feel Blu is over hyped.

    Note: I did a Child's Play comparison. The dvd was surprisingly close to the broadcast. The broadcast had more of a pop, but only by a margin (both looked excellent).
     
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  2. hots4

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    i'm with you there, my hatchet, splinter and dirty sanchez the movie dvd's look fantastic upscaled on my HD tv, i'm more than happy at the moment with this.
     
  3. Dave

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    To each their own. Upscaled looks great but generally speaking the blu of the same movie is going to look better. It really just depends on how much quality you are looking for.

    I went HD-DVD when it died because prices were dirt. Seeing HD got me hooked and I added blu as well.

    Just keep in mind, you don't need to rebuy your entire collection.

    I have a dozen blu-rays. That's it. And I've owned blu since last Thanksgiving. I actually bought my player on Thanksgiving Day. Some of my favorite, most watched movies are the ones I have bought over the past year. If it's an occasional viewing, I'm in no hurry to upgrade. I wanted the HD-DVD import of T-2 and the blu of T-2, but I generally watch the flick once a year and I'll stick to the DVD I bought about 10 years ago for the time being.

    Now, with prices dropping on blu software, I'm getting more and more tempted to upgrade titles here and there. Predator blu for $9.99 on Amazon? Yum. Makes me want to ditch the DTS DVD I have of it. I haven't, and may not anytime soon, but it makes me want to.

    But any NEW purchases I get - ALL blu unless it's DVD only for some reason. And that's really the key for me. It's not about stuff I already have on DVD. It's about everything else going forward - I want all that on blu.
     
  4. shape22

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    There's nothing wrong with the look of a well-authored DVD upscaled to 1080p. And for the average consumer, maybe the difference is negligible. But you sound like a home theater enthusiast. And if you are, there is absolutely no comparison between a strong Blu-ray transfer and any DVD transfer--regardless of the upscaling abilities of your DVD player.

    I resisted making the jump to Blu-ray until I could justify paying the price for Oppo's player. So I am no early adopter. I too questioned the quality difference of DVD versus Blu-ray--right until the minute I popped in a few Blu-ray discs. You'd believe the hype if you checked it out yourself. An HDTV broadcast really falls short of a well-authored Blu-ray disc. You'll see far less compression and motion artifacts on Blu-ray versus HDTV.

    The resolution improvement is only part of the equation. Color saturation and black levels are enormously improved on BD. And don't forget the sound improvements that the BD format makes possible.

    Watching an all-time favorite with a strong Blu-ray transfer is a really exhilarating experience. I've seen Goldfinger hundreds of times. But it's a substantially different experience on Blu-ray. Just watching it made me giddy like a little kid. I noticed all kinds of things that eluded me before.

    And here's the real proof of the superiority of this format. I now notice all kinds of video imperfections on standard DVDs and HD broadcasts that I didn't notice before. I thought I had a discerning eye before growing accustomed to BD. I didn't. But I certainly do now.

    With Christmas around the corner it's the perfect time to treat yourself to an upgrade. Prices will be attractive. And you'll ultimately save yourself money. I now realize how much I cost myself by waiting so long to make the jump. I'm slowly replacing most of the newer releases in my collection. Had I upgraded sooner, I wouldn't be feeling the need to double-dip. If your ultimate goal is to upgrade to Blu-ray, don't wait.
     
  5. evildeadfan123

    evildeadfan123 Sam & Dean Winchester

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    Right now, I haven't upgraded to a HD TV and Blu-Ray Player. I am waiting for it to go down in price.
     
  6. 17thJuggalo

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    It still depends really. New movies look amazing on Blu, there's no doubt about that. However, old films that have been upscaled on DVD look nearly the same on Blu, at least from my experience so far.
     
  7. Katatonia

    Katatonia Hellbound Heart

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    I have quite a few "old films" on Blu-ray that look fantastic, rivaling any newly produced film in clarity and sharpness.

    It really depends on what you're happy with. Most DVD's will look pretty good upscaled.

    Some Blu-ray releases are better than others. Simply because a movie gets released on Blu doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to blow you away in HD. Some films simply have better source materials to work from. I've seen some recent films that have played in theaters that aren't exactly "WOW" in HD/Blu-ray.

    Sometimes the picture quality won't be a major leap, but the audio will be a vast improvement. The Logan's Run Blu-ray for instance doesn't look the greatest in HD, but the DolbyTrueHD audio track is clear as a bell and vastly superior to the old DVD.

    I have yet to see a Blu-ray that looks worse than it's old DVD release(s).
     
  8. Paff

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    This.

    I just went HD last year after X-mas, so this year I'll probably make the Blu Ray jump. Like others have said, I'll mostly reserve it for newer movies, and a few favorites. Under no cirumstances do I plan to upgrade all my DVDs.

    Additionally, I'll make a leap over DVD on much of my Laserdisc replacing. I only replaced a handful of LD titles on standard DVD. But now that LDs look so awful on my HDTV, I know I'm gonna have to replace some titles. Makes sense to just go Blu on those.
     
  9. indiephantom

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    I've been getting Blu-rays since July of 2008. I have no intention of upgrading all or even most of my SD DVD collection. For BD right now I just watch on my laptop. I still only have a standard TV set (but a pretty sweet one from Sony with XBR, 53", and all the fixins). I will wait a few years before getting a proper HD today and stand-alone BD players should be nicely evolved by then, too. I have over 100 BDs, so when I first get that setup (and a new audio upgrade to lossless sound) I will be having a blast with the collection I've begun.

    Surprisingly, I'm pretty content watchin BD on my 1080p laptop for now. Damn that looks nice!!:)
     
  10. rxfiend

    rxfiend Joe Six-Pack

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    While I haven't seen it myself, a lot of people say Gojira looks worse on blu ray than the DVD version.


    In regards to the earlier comments about older films on blu ray. Most of my current collection of HD titles are older films and that's really where the format shines IMO. Checking out 2001, Halloween, Dawn of the Dead, Creepshow, Blade Runner, Day the Earth Stood Still, Amityville Horror, etc... on the format is quite the thrill. I've seen these films numerous times, but when watching them in HD, it's like seeing them for the first time. To me, it's more of a "wow" factor than seeing a modern film in HD.
     
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  11. ronnie21

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    like he said. some older tittle dont transfer well over to blu ray. there are good review sites that will tell you what to stay away from. I only got a blu ray player cause i wanr Rush R30 which is being released in its entirity only on blu ray. But night of the creeps looks really great on blu-ray. so does the Police live concert, and blade runner too. But i read that some other ones dont look too good.
     
  12. Grim

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    2001 on blu is absolutely fucking fantastic. I don't care how great the upscaled DVD looks. If you're a fan of the film, you owe it yourself to get the blu or at least rent it. Sheer eye-porn.

    And yeah I think it comes down to what you're expecting to get out of the format. I think a lot of people will starting diving into it now, as players are about the same price as DVD players were when I got my first. We sell a really nice Panasonic blu-ray player for $169.99. HDTV's in general have taken a serious plummet in price. I paid $2199.99 (after price-matching, it was usually around $2599.99) for my Samsung 46" A650 in April 2008 and this year's model (B650) sells for around $1599.99. And it has double the contrast ratio. I can only imagine how much they'll drop in 2010.
     
  13. bigdaddyhorse

    bigdaddyhorse Detroit Hi-on

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    They now have Sony BD players with BD-Live at Wal-Mart for $148. Forgot to grab the model number, but I'm pretty sure being Sony it's not gonna be crackable to play all regions. Still, looks to be a better player than I bought there for the same price 3 months ago. I don't have BD-Live (not that I want it really, from all I've read it's underwheling at best so far).
     
  14. Matt89

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    I went blu about a year and a half ago. I now have maybe 50+ blu-rays. I didn't plan on it, but blu-ray disc prices began to plummet (drastically in some cases) - for example, Best Buy had a sale on Anchor Bay blu-rays, and the blu-rays of Hellraiser and Dawn of the Dead had been marked down from $28.99 to $15.99, so I gave in. HMV has a pretty neat blu-ray sale on right now, might grab Silence of the Lambs for $20. Criterion's blu-rays are as cheap as the DVDs and aren't outrageously overpriced. Overall, I've been pretty happy with blu-ray quality (like Grim said, 2001 is un-fucking-believable on blu-ray) and the prices...well you GOTTA know where to look. Best Buy has sales all the time, same goes for amazon (the blu-ray of The Graduate is $10.99, cheaper than the DVD!)

    ~Matt
     
  15. NaturesMistake

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    I just checked out my Blade Runner set, and it too looked unbelievable upscaled.

    I might get blu in the future, I'm just not in any rush...
     
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  16. Fumi

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    I've got a PS3 with Blu ray player. Was pretty excited about it, until I found that on my 32", 720p TV, there's no noticeable difference. I was even sitting 6' in front of the TV, just to make sure that I'd be able to spot the smallest improvement. Nope, DVD's on my upscaling player look every bit as good.

    So much for that.
     
  17. Ash28M

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    DVD's will look great on a 32", 720p. They can handle that size easily. It's when you get a larger TV that DVD's start to struggle and the differences really show. I have a 61" 1080p and I can easily tell the difference.
     
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    I have a 32" tv, and i can tell a difference between blu ray's and dvd's. My upscaling dvd player is a Pioneer so it should do a good job, but still blu ray's look better.I never see compression blocks on blu ray's like you often do on a DVD.
     
  19. indiephantom

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    One question, do Blu-ray players automatically upscale DVDs. As mentioned, I just watch BDs on my laptop, but even here I see a drastic diff. in quality from DVD. Never really noticed if DVDs played better in my PC drive.
     
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    In my early days of HD, I was watching the HD-DVD of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Halfway through it got glitchy, and I flipped to the DVD side (HD-DVD/DVD combo disc).

    It was like my screen was covered in a thick layer of dirt. The detail had noticeable dropped. The colors were drab and lifeless.

    I'd always felt that DVD upconversion was pretty good. But it really doesn't compare to true HD.
     

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