I ordered stuff on the 17th and 19th in October. Got both shipments in late November. Actually the my 19th order, it came 2 weeks after the 17th order. They/he ships in segments according to dates when the store closes. Playing catch up I suppose. Again, like I said before as long as I get my product & it arrives in one piece, I'm a patient guy. P.S. - I too ordered something on the 4th. Think that's the day the store opened again after being closed for weeks.