Anyone got Zombie holocaust?

Discussion in 'Euro Horror' started by maniac666, May 21, 2002.

  1. thrashard76

    thrashard76 Guest

    Thanks for the reassurance skinny. ;)
    I feel like taking on a new wave of zombies and cannibals now....bring'em on!!! \nn/:mad:\nn/ ....DVDs that is. :p
     
  2. gunner

    gunner Cropsy Maniac

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    I received Zombie Holocaust on saturday. I liked the disc,it did have superior video quality and extra's (loved the Dr. Butcher promotional material) than my dragon disc. But the audio was absolutely horrible on Shriek Shows's release. The sound is so muffled it sounds as though everything was recorded with a pillow over the mic,I had to crank my volume just to make out dialog. The dragon disc had bad enough sound quality, I was shocked that Shriek Show's was quite a bit worse.
    For those that don't own the dragon release you can still atleast compare the audio of the opening and closing credits.The easter egg on the S.S's disc is the english language opening/closing credits,which have been taken directly from dragon's dvd release.
     
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  3. thrashard76

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    gunner...

    Does Zombie Holocaust offer different versions of audio quality like 2.0, 5.1, 6.0 etc.? Does the sound have a muffled effect on other DVDs you may have tried or does this release have just one audio set up? :rolleyes:
     
  4. Jason25

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  5. thrashard76

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    Hmm, that kinda sucks. :rolleyes: Oh well, I'm still gonna get it. I guess the surround sound option is out the window. :(
     
  6. skinnypuppy6

    skinnypuppy6 Guest

    haha a dts zombie holocaust! that would be something else
     
  7. bruce h

    bruce h Editor - CINEMA ARCANA

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    I had a chance to briefly check out Shriek Show’s ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST disc today, and I have to say after being relatively pleased with their BEYOND THE DARKNESS presentation I’m quite disappointed the trend didn’t last.

    First off, let’s start with the cover. Would it be too hard to spellcheck a blurb before pasting it? Last time I looked, splatter is NOT spelled splater. And more to the point, it’s not the “Splater Scale,” it’s the “Gore Score.” John, fire your art department.

    The main problem for most fans, however, will be the feature itself. Grainy, grainy, grainy, with poor colors and sharpness to boot. Having seen the film theatrically, I can state this ISN’T how it’s supposed to look. Shriek Show seriously needs to learn how to tell a bad transfer from a good one, because they’ve been WAY too hit-or-miss so far and they’ve acquired way too many primo titles to take chances with. Let’s hope NIGHTS OF TERROR isn’t a victim of the same fate.

    Supplements were decent, but just like JUNGLE HOLOCAUST they can’t excuse a shoddy presentation.
     
  8. blaster

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    Bruce is wrong...

    Bruce is still wrong...I have seen this post on three boards now I am sure you are missing a few Bruce.
     
  9. bruce h

    bruce h Editor - CINEMA ARCANA

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    Wrong about what?
     
  10. blaster

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    Just jerking with you...but seriously...

    I disagee on your view of the transfer. I agree that the opening credits looks grainy but after that the transfer is great. Even the DVD-Drive In says the same.

    To make this title looks its best we had to go back to the best original negative which was the Italian Super 16MM print and re-mix the audio from the English Print. We even cleaned the sound to try and improve it more.

    I am willing to admit when something is not as good. Jungle Holocaust was definitely not as good as it could be.

    But I will answer back when I think we did a good job.

    -blaster
     
  11. thrashard76

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    Thanks for the feedback blaster. ;) Now I know what to expect when I pick it up from Suncoast (whenever it arrives there). :D
     
  12. bruce h

    bruce h Editor - CINEMA ARCANA

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    No problemo, John! Your opinion is just as valid as mine. I just felt the transfer looked excessively grainy and thought that some of the colors looked variably too muted or too heightened. But to each their own.

    If anyone is looking for the review Blaster refers to (written by Casey Scott), it's located on the DVD Drive-In website:
    http://www.dvddrive-in.com
     
  13. bruce h

    bruce h Editor - CINEMA ARCANA

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    A few more remarks, now that I've bought my own copy.

    In the stills gallery, Shriek Show includes the entire review for DR BUTCHER MD and it's NYC ad campaign, scanned directly from the pages of the much-missed Gore Gazette fanzine. This includes a lot of text and several photos that writer Rick Sullivan took himself on 42nd St when the film was playing theatrically (including the fabled "Butcher-mobile"). Yet somehow Rick isn't even mentioned or thanked on the disc. John, if you're going to use someone else's hard work, at least make sure they get credit. I mean, to use a writer's entire review and several photos he shot himself and not even thank him is pretty offensive, and I'm sure Rick won't be pleased when he sees the disc.

    Also, on the front cover, "cannibals" is spelled "cannibles." Please get someone to look your covers over before you print them, things like this only create doubts about Media Blasters professionalism.
     
  14. blaster

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    Again Bruce attacks

    Hi Bruce,

    I can see we are on your hit list and you want to attack us for yourself or for someone close to you.:mad: Say hi for me to him.

    In anycase the article you are talking about was supplied by Edwin Samuleson and he told us it was ok to use it. So you can bring it up with him.

    As far as our professionalism, I feel we are professional and do not go to several boards posting stuff to bad mouth a company. I approach a company directly and express my dissatisfaction but it is obvious these posts are for other reasons. I do not see you doing this for other company's products.

    Keep posting...in the end public opinion will be the deciding factor. The true colors always come through in the end.

    -blaster
     
  15. hell ya!

    hell ya! ~Go ahead, make my day~

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    I agree with blaster, Bruce h what your doing is not very professional.
     
  16. bruce h

    bruce h Editor - CINEMA ARCANA

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    John, I have no sort of vendetta against Media Blasters, I simply call things as I see them. I’ve applauded some of your releases in the past, and I’ve lambasted others. I’m unsure why every time I challenge a Shriek Show release you deem it as a personal attack. And as far as my friends go, I let them deal with their own issues. I’m not involved, so why would I care? I’m entirely capable of making up my own mind. As far as other companies go, I argue ANY release that I feel could have been improved. If I have problems with a release, I post about it. On several messageboards. Other recent releases I blasted (on several boards) include Image Entertainment/Something Weird Video’s THE AMAZING TRANSPLANT DVD and Anchor Bay’s THE EVIL DEAD DVD. You’re looking way too deep into this. My logic is this: Media Blasters is a multi-million dollar company. You shouldn’t have spelling errors (plural) on your covers.

    I’ll post on Eddie’s board about the Gore Gazette thing.
     
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    Shriek Show releases have been hit or miss, with several misses, including Demonia. I am willing to give Shriek Show a bit of a break on Demonia as it was an early release.

    I have reviewed several Shriek Show discs on my site and have been pretty pleased. I was impressed with Beyond The Darkness, although it hardly blew away the Italian Shock disc. I liked Burial Ground, Jungle Holocaust, and to a lesser extent, Zombie Holocaust. I thought these discs were pretty well done, save for the spelling errors, which does show unprofessionalism.

    I believe that Shriek Shows greatest asset at this point is their extras. The extras they provide are the reasons I bought their releases to go along with the European Releases of the same films. If the Italian Shock dvds sported Anamorphic transfers, I believe their dvd releases would be superior to Shriek Shows at this point in time.

    My biggest complaint with John and Shriek Show is the lame cover art, Shreik Shows inability to ever make a street date, and the fact that John NEVER replies to my e-mails or posts even after I went out of my way to set up a chat with him on this site to promote his product. I feel this is a bit of a slap in the face. I certainly won't lose any sleep over it, however as an Owner of a 6 million dollar a year business, I have learned that you take care of the people who believe in you and support you. Correct me if my thinking is out of line.

    Jason
     
  18. bruce h

    bruce h Editor - CINEMA ARCANA

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    To me, titles like CREATURES FROM THE ABYSS, KILLER BARBIES, and DEMONIA are really just "lesser" titles, so I'm perfectly happy with the DVDs that've been delivered from Shriek Show. But titles like JUNGLE HOLOCAUST and ZOMBIE HOLOCAUST are serious cornerstones of Euro-trash cinema, and I feel the amount of effort put into their transfers should reflect that. I'll agree that BEYOND THE DARKNESS was a nice disc, but so far it's the only release that I really can't complain about (outside of the fact that there's no US tape release art in the stills gallery and the porno cover gallery is missing D'amato's nazi flicks - but that's really just nit-picking).
     
  19. thrashard76

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    Beyond The Darkness was great fun! :D The picture was smooth with no picture markings (that I could see). The extras were a nice touch too...the easter egg was neat also. :D I actually was hoping for more trailers from upcoming movies and maybe Goblins interview but that's not a problem for me. Good work Blaster and Shriek Show. I'm looking forward to Burial Ground, Zombie Holocaust and Zombie 3! :cool:\nn/
     
  20. blaster

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    Several responses...

    bruceh - I do not see these as perosnal attacks since you are complaining about the products and not attacking me personally.

    As for your feelings about spelling errors, that is something that can be looked at closer and we can correct that internally.

    As for your comments on the transfer we are using the same places that AB uses in Italy and the same place Synapse uses for conversions. These are the original negatives and we can not get better. Alot of times the companies do not keep very good shape of their materials. In the case of Two Orphan Vampires we had to correct everything from the beginning again just to make it look better. In the end you may never be happy...it all comes down to the materials. We are trying.

    Jason25 - Your statements are not out of line except for posting the annual sales of MB which are incorrect. We are actually a 12 million dollar company. If someone post your salary on this board I am sure you would be upset but the 12 million is not my salary so I am just proud of the number in this economy. Figure you should get it right though so whoever told you is too low on the totem pole to really know the numbers.

    Next as for me not responding to yor emails. Send me some emails and I will respond, I do not have any emails from you recently. I do appreciate the chat and would not mind helping you out. Understand as you pointed out that we are a multi-million dollar company and I do run it. I do not have the time to help everyone as they would like to be helped.

    As for your comparisons to us with Italian Shock, now that hurts since we deal with the same licensor and laboratory in Italy. I know what they are doing with the materials and I know what we are doing. I can say without a doubt we are doing much more, paying much more and going more than anyone else on these releases. Put Beyond on a TV right next to their version and if you still say we do not blow them away, I give up.

    As far as the lame cover art, I disagree totally and believe our artwork is the best. I am sorry you are just dead wrong here. It is a preference thing so I doubt what I say means anything but we go to so much trouble and work to make it look good. I am now looking at my competition's artwork and say we are the best.

    As for our release dates, yes we have been bad because most of the times the materials need to be fixed and the extras need to be completed. I rather get a good disk out than rush just something out for street date.

    Those extras take time and money...

    It seems in general people get upset with us for:

    1) It seems the thing everyone wants from me is a free copy of the program for review. We do not have time or inventory sometimes to send out copies and people get upset. They believe they are being cheated because they talk to me and get upset when they receive nothing. I receive daily about 5 or more requests for copies.

    2) Everyone wants to be involved in the disk and when I say you can contribute something and than they do not for some reason they get upset. Also they all want to QC the disk in someway and get upset when they can not and feel they are being left out.

    3) I did not realize how much bad feelings there are among the fans. It seems that some fans really hate each other and when we got one guy involved who hates or is hated by another guy who is not involved the fireworks fly.

    4) I have gotten emails from people who feel they must be involved with the disk and if they are not involved the disk will suck. Alot of times we can not get these people involved, they get upset.

    5) People request things that are impossible for us to get legally. In the case of Zombie Holocaust they wanted the Dr. Butcher cut included. We tried and contact Terry Levine and he wanted nothing to do with it. While yes we could have found an old print and included it but that is illegal without permission from someone who owns that material. Transfers from a positive always look like crap. We have to do things legally. We than went to Roy Frumkes and got the original material but still heard complaints.

    In the end definitely can not please everyone in this place...found out that very quickly in euro-horror.

    -blaster
     

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