Hello A friend of mine has a Panasonic DMR-E20 DVD recorder. This is one of the stand alone units that operate similiar to a VCR. I've tried backing up some LaserDiscs to it (at the 2 hour SP recording speed) and the quality looks pretty darn good. On a 27" TV I can barely tell the difference between the DVD copy and the LD original. However, I've tried making a DVD-R on the Panasonic unit and then ripping it to my computer's HDD so I could do some editing (basic trimming of the start, end and side break) but if you do it that way you have to re-encode it on the computer. Software re-encoding takes FOREVER (usually at least 2 to 3 times the length of the movie you are re-encoding and that is on a FAST computer) and of course the quality suffers. Then I read that if you copy it to DVD-RAM and import it into a computer that you won't have that problem. However, everytime you put an edit on the DVD-RAM disc the authoring software reads it as a seperate MPEG2 file. So after editing you don't end up with one single file but multiple files (divided at the edit points) which means when playing back the final custom made DVD-R it pauses for a noticeable amount of time (couple seconds maybe) at each edit point. The benefit of the DVD-RAM route is that there is no re-encoding of the video/sound files. I found out though that if you have one of the Panasonic stand alone DVD recorders that have a built-in hard disk drive that you can first record to the HDD (using the 2 hour SP speed) and then do your edits on the hard drive. At that point you can then transfer it to a DVD-RAM disc and as long as the DVD-RAM is recording at the same speed (in my example the SP speed) then it simply makes a perfect digital copy from the hard drive to the DVD-RAM ... no re-encoding ... and since it was edited on the hard drive the edit points are not remembered on the DVD-RAM and you get a single file. Simply copy that file onto your computer, run it through an authoring program (so you can make custom menus and custom chapter points etc.) and then burn to a DVD-R (yes that means you need a computer based DVD-R burner). The key to this process is that you end up with one sinle mpeg2 file and the computer never does any re-encoding ... all because the editing was done on the hard disk drive of the Panasonic stand alone DVD recorder. Well I have a computer with a DVD-R/W drive but the only Panasonic stand alone DVD recorder I have access to is a model that does not have the built-in hard drive (the DMR-E20). So ... if anyone has such a Panasonic unit (Toshiba also makes one) and a LD player then please contact me directly with a private message. - John "FulciLives" Coleman e-mail = firstname.lastname@example.org PLEASE NOTE I am doing this in an attempt to BACK UP my LaserDisc collection. My own LaserDisc player died a year ago and I have a player on borrow. I have some really kewl horror/cult titles that have yet to come out on DVD so I am simply trying to back-up some of my LaserDiscs so I can enjoy them now on DVD. This has nothing to do with bootlegging.