Anyone looking forward to Rob Zombie's H2

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  1. rhett

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    Nobody is "offended" by his dialogue, it is just distractingly overwrought with profanity. Yeah, sure, there are some people who talk like that, but Zombie isn't writing that way for authenticity, he's writing like that to try and be edgy, shocking or in his own little mind witty. At its best it comes off as trite Tarantino, and at its worst, which is usually most of the time, it's just annoying. He's like a little kid crossing the velcro straps on his shoes just to try and be a punk.

    I'm sure black men have masturbated to pornographic magazines in rest stops before, but just because Zombie throws that into Halloween it doesn't mean we should be championing him as a beacon of realistic integrity. It's trashy, attention-seeking shit like that that makes him a tool.
     
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    Please don't Michael Myers has grown a beard.....:O

    I'm starting to get frightened by this film......I swear to God if that man has a beard I'm outta here.....
     
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    That's how I feel about it. I know for a fact that a lot of girls do talk like that, but in the movie there was a little too much of it. I like Zombie's direction and all of his movies so far (Halloween was just okay), but a good script writer he is not. The whole white trash angle in all of his movies has to go, for his first two movies it was acceptable, but in Halloween's case it was so out of place and stood out like a sore thumb! Anyways, I'll check out Halloween 2 as I somewhat enjoyed the first film, and thankfully most of the white trash people are dead, so here's hoping that he doesn't introduce a bunch more.

    And I agree, at times it does seem like he's trying to be an edgy Kevin Smith or Tarratino, but his dialog has no wittiness or intelligence, and instead is just offensive and repulsive. Again, fine for a his first two movies about crazy rednecks, but for the quaint town of Haddonfield it didn't work at all.
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    I don't really recall Ho1KC being that foul. Am I mistaken?
     
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    Perfectly said.
     
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    You could be right, I haven't watched it in a few years now.
     
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    Yeah in terms of dialogue it was pretty tame. All Otis seemed to spout was random philosophical jibberish and Baby would make suggestive remarks. Come to think of it, the characters are strikingly different in the sequel.
     
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    That's your choice of course. If you want more out of horror films than blood splatting and heavy metal music, then all I can say Sicknick is that perhaps Rob Zombie's version of Halloween is not for you. If you are looking for some moral based characters to like, you may have to dig deep to find a horror film that doesn't have a least one or two doucebags in this genre. Horror films over time have always pushed the envelope in one way or another, whether it be through character development, visually, through dialogue, or even touching on taboo issues. All you have to do is read the headlines of your local newspaper to realize that society has changed greatly since your first theatrical trip. The youth of today does frequently speak with vulgarity and the social norms that existed 30 or 40 years ago no longer exist. I am speaking from first hand experience because I see it in my profession on a daily basis. Even the type of television programs are a representation of how far our society has fallen..reality shows on every other station, Jerry Springer, and all of ills of the world that would never, ever have appeared during the time I grew up. Sure, Jerry Springer is most likely fake, but some of the issues discussed are really no different than Laurie's friends in Halloween. The main point that I was trying to make is that Zombie has, IMO, given us a revisioning of a world that has become very chaotic and that perhaps he is trying to lend credence to the breakdown of the family and society as a whole, including Laurie's world, thereby sending a message that nobody is left untouched by social change. Because of this, people think that Zombie is a hack, and that the only reason he does this is for attention or that it is intentional. IMO, it never crossed my mind that he was ever doing this for shock value..not once. But then again, everybody interprets things differently. Some say he is a tool of a monetary/studio based establishment. They are entitled to that opinion. I guess we just disagree, and that's fine! This is, after all a forum for all opinions. I personally very much enjoyed all of his films so far. Oh..and to set the record straight, you assumed that I am a fan of Scream 3. I am not a fan of Scream 3 and I'm 43 yrs old. I have also been going to the theater to watch horror films for quite some time, so I not exactly a virgin. ;)
     
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    I drive to Ohio every spring and fall for the Cinema Wasteland convention and I always stop at the Monroeville mall for lunch on the way there.
     
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    No, I do agree with you about how kids are today. I see it all the time aswell and it depresses the shit outta me. I miss the way people were when I (and you) were younger. alotta kids have just gotten more obnoxious and entitled so when I see movies I like my characters to be more sympathetic. I'll probably get slammed for this but one movie I though did this well was Hatchet. The guys in that movie were more relatable to me. I liked them and I cared about what happened to them.
     
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    I love Hatchet. I think the characters are hilarious, and yes, likable. The gore is also some of the best shown in any horror movie.
     
  13. Whoa, Nick man, I so envy you! I've been waiting years to check that out, plus Camp NeBeBosCo and the near by Blairstown diner/cafe.

    Hopefully, in just under three years more time, I can make some time for it. ;)
     
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    Couldn't have put it better myself mate, this will undoubtedly suck balls. Rob Zombie should leave film making alone and stick to doing his sh*tty music.
     
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    I'm looking forward to Rob Zombie's H3: Season of the Witch. He should get William Forsythe to play a redneck Tom Atkins. Then in the motel, Ellie Grimbridge could be like "Where do you want to sleep, Dr. Challis?" And then Dr. Challis could say "Bitch, where the fuck do you think I wanna sleep?" That would be awesome...

    He'd also need to re-write the Silver Shamrock jingle to be a little more contemporary. Something like this would do nicely:

    "Eight more days till Halloween, Halloween, Halloween...
    Eight more days till Halloween, Fuck Your Mother..."

    Damn, now I'm psyched!
     
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  16. thrashard76

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    :lol:

    Of course this IS Rob Zombie we're talking about here, so you'll have to litter that jingle with a fuck load of yeeeeeaaahhhs.
     
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    UGh, looks gay to me sorry, but this isn't a suprise since I didn't like it anymore in the previous one.
     
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    Ditto!
     

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