Anyone watch Svengoolie on Saturday nights?

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  1. KGBRadioMoskow

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    The whole thing was rough, bordering on a content and tonal misfire.

    Its clear their heart was in the right place, but the execution fell flat. They need to up their game significantly, pick a demographic target, and do both quick. Or write the whole thing off as a failed experiment.
     
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    Wow. I just got around to watching Sventoonie, and it was as bad as it was made out to be.

    Why not just show kids' cartoons with a horror theme (like that Bugs Bunny outing with Vincent Price as the mad scientist) and call it a day?

    I did like that Sventoonie had a fishbone pinned to his lapel, the same place Svengoolie has a little skeleton.
     
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    April
    4/02 Werewolf of London (1935) - Universal’s first wolf man!
    - Sventoonie: Vincent Price is Right ( House on Haunted Hill (1959) )
    4/09 The Wolf Man (1941) - Origin story of the cursed Larry Talbot!
    - Sventoonie: Specimen Container! ( Creature (1985) )
    4/16 The Ghost of Frankenstein (1942) - Ygor has monstrous plans!
    - Sventoonie: An Ax to Grind ( Dementia 13 (1963) )
    4/23 Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man (1943) - The dreaded duo!
    - Sventoonie: An American Vampire in America ( Nosferatu (1922) / The Satanic Rites of Dracula (1973) )
    4/30 Invaders from Mars (1986) - The Tobe Hooper remake!
    - Sventoonie: Super Seventies Sell-Outs ( Horror Express (1972) )

    I visited my folks over the weekend, and my Dad wanted to watch Sventoonie with me but he kept falling asleep. So, he'd replay it... I ended up watching Sventoonie 4 times! Despite what you may think, after a few times, it wasn't so bad, and wasn't painfully slow.

    I think part of the problem is that we all expected spooky cartoons and got anything but. Even setting that aside though, hardly worth tuning into and I'd still prefer spooky cartoons.

    We'll have to see the fate of the show. Course corrections can happen but I suspect they've already recorded most of it. So, unless it affects the ratings of other shows, it'll probably stick around at least 7 episodes.. It hasn't been universally panned as I've been seeing some positive feedback, especially among Sven fans. Makes me question my own fandom. :D
     
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    I've found fans often initially respond favorably to questionable quality content. More out of affection, loyalty, and enthusiasm than objectivity. A re-assess often comes later, usually long after overall ratings have demonstrated the truth.
     
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    Two things turned me off of the whole Sventoonie experience.

    First, the Night of the Living Dead part, and just for reference I watched this BEFORE reading X-Human's write-up, I thought it was like a kid at recess describing a movie to all his friends. "And then the truck blew up and then the zombies got inside and then the little girl became a zombie and killed her mom and then...."
    You get the idea.

    Second, the "Oopsers Bloopsers" segment had promise had they shown actual bloopers. Instead they just made up bloopers where there weren't any. Just dumb.
     
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    The boom mic in the shot is enough of a trope I was willing to play along with the gag. The mic setting off the yap dog was amusing, but could have been hilarious. There was just something...off...about the introductory set up of the skit, and then when it got rolling it descended into excess and repetition.

    I was left thinking how SNL would do the routine. They'd start with the mic slowly creeping into the shot. Then maybe doing circles & dancing for the camera. Then scratching Lee's nose. Then bopping the dog. Except for the dog part, Sventoonie mostly just went for closer proximity and excess number. They say comedy is all about timing, and here the timing was off, and you've got to mix up the punch line retreads, not just repeat it verbatim.
     
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    Sventoonie tonight was more of the same with House on Haunted Hill, not surprisingly. I think I laughed a couple times though. More than the one laugh I got from NOTLD ("She'll never be able to enjoy a cemetery again."). The parody commercials and songs were even less funny than the "bloopers." At least with the bloopers I understood the "joke". The music videos have all been "so what?" The acid bath commercial gave me a smirk with the skeletons but showing these two parody ads back to back just makes the "joke" all the more tiring.

    What was funny though was Kerwyn berating Toonie for bad fan reactions. While almost certainly recorded before the first episode even aired, that suddenly became "it's funny 'cause it's true." :D I took a look around the usually spots online after tonight's airing and people aren't even bothering to complain. If people are complaining at least they're watching. If they're ignoring it, that's ratings death.
     
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    Fright-Rags has a Svengoolie line now: https://www.fright-rags.com/collections/svengoolie

    Kinda surprised by that, as Sven has his own store and sells direct which must be very profitable. But with how popular Sven's getting I shouldn't be so surprised. I hope they do a mask/box set, that would be fun to get.
     
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    Nice Gilbert Gottfried memorial during the broadcast this morning.

    I forgot about Sventoonie last Saturday night. Fortunately(?) it's still part of the Svengoolie replay Saturday mornings.

    Wow, vast improvement. This appears to be a new production shoot as Sventoonie has a new costume that fits and a sewer pipe to come out of. (So, I suspect the first two episodes were more "proof of concept" productions than anything else.) And, naturally, a human co-host. While some people are crediting the co-host as being a big reason why it's an improvement, I'd say the running commentary (which is still just Toonie) is the biggest improvement. Instead of just recounting the movie we basically get just enough details to "get" the jokes and funny observations. There's also no song that go nowhere. And the skits and parodies are based much more on the movies.

    Still, not something I'd be watching if it wasn't directly after Svengoolie, but it's a better start. Looking around the web there's been a couple of people saying it's better now but for the most part crickets. I wonder if it was a good idea to air those first dreadful two pilot episodes. They might have been better off burying the pilot episodes and retooled a new first episodes (with human co-host). It'll be an uphill battle now to get an audience.
     
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    Was it at the very beginning? I tuned in halfway through the movie.
     
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    Yep, before the first commercial break they had a little tribute, more than they normally do, with a short little montage.
     
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    Sventoonie: An Ax to Grind
    Once again, better. Can't say the commentary was especially good, and it's kinda irksome that the ends of these movies are spoiled, but we're getting some funny comments now at least. I take it he spends the time now to think up jokes. The skits are better too. The skit with the drowned girl didn't really go anywhere but I liked the Axe skit. If the skits were alternated with the commentary instead of just commentary first then all the skits, it'd be a better paced show.

    Tonight is The Satanic Rites of Dracula which is not PD and Warner Bros. has recently sued over its use so I wonder if this episode survives long enough to be in repeats. So, if you actually care, set your DVRs...
     
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    Sventoonie: An American Vampire in America
    That wasn't so bad... In fact, it was pretty good! Their commentary breakdown of Satanic Rites had a good mix of comedy and plotting. They did a good take down of the finale, which even came to mind when they did the bloopers on SRoD in the pilot (Dracula gets taken out by a bush?!?). The Nosferatu bit was brief enough that the gag didn't outstay its welcome. And the Van Hellspring skits were genuinely funny. I just had to laugh at "Fratbrostein." Those skits had better plot ideas than a lot of z-grade dreck I have seen.

    I don't know... I'm starting to come 'round on these. I'm not seeing a lot of feedback online so I wonder if the slow start has already sunk the ship. After tonight there will only be two more on the schedule...
     
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    For anyone interested, I hear MeTV is now streaming on FrndlyTV and on Roku it's on Free2View. So, you can catch Sven 8PM EST / 7PM CST on there.

    May
    05/07 House of Wax (1953) - Sorry — Vincent will NOT be shown in 3-D!
    - Sventoonie: A Bucket of Blood (1959)
    05/14 The Abominable Dr. Phibes (1971) - The 1971 classic!
    05/21 Dr. Phibes Rises Again (1972) - The fiend so nice — we see him twice!
    - Sventoonie: Jordan Versus Bird ( The Terror ) (1963)
    05/28 House on Haunted Hill (1959) - The William Castle original!
    - Sventoonie: Now Available for Birthday Parties ( Bugs Bunny / The Last Man on Earth (1964) )

    Wow, a whole month of Vincent Price! I haven't seen the Dr. Phibes in a decade so that'll be a treat. While he's done House of Wax recently I don't think he's done House on Haunted Hill so that might have a new wrap around too. Cool month!

    Also, in the newsletter, "We look forward to Joe Bob returning the favor with a visit to our dungeon studio in the future! "

    Sventoonie: Super Seventies Sell-Outs ( Horror Express (1972) )
    Not quite as enjoyable as Satanic Rites, but still a vast improvement over the first two episodes. More "meh" songs, but at least each were brief. It seems even funny bad song writing is just not a talent of the Sventoonie crew (none the less good songs). Although, I got a chuckle out of "hard boiled egg eyes."

    Next Sunday will be the last scheduled episode. It'll be interesting to see where they go from here. I'm seeing a bit more responses now online, and they're positive, so it seems like people are hearing that the show's improved since its first two episodes and are watching AND enjoying it.
     
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    Been a while since I've seen Dr. Phibes, but that's one of Price's darker movies, isn't it? Kinda nasty for MeTV. I'll be tuning in.
     
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    You know... I never thought about Phibes as being especially "nasty" compared to truly gory movies even of the era. But the way Phibes
    systematically drains that one guy's blood
    gives me the willies more than even contemporary horrors. And
    having locus eat that woman's face while she's alive
    ... -or- In Theatre of Blood when
    he feeds that guy his own dogs...
    Can any contemporary film "get away with that" these days?

    It is interesting, even '30s films like Murders in the Rue Morgue and The Black Cat have some simple stuff that really gives you the chills. Then you'll watch ultra violent torture porn and hardly blink. It's easy to naively dismiss these older movies as holding their punches sometimes isn't it? When truly cruel imagination can play on our fears more than just blunt violence.
     
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    Unfortunately I missed Dr. Phibes today, as I was at an after-party that ran a little long. My DVR space is critically low so I didn't record it.

    I do admit, films that are violence violence violence do in a way numb you to it. I often cite the found footage flick Megan is Missing, which only includes two violent images, but because you hadn't seen anything like it up until that point in the film, it's incredibly shocking to see.
     
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    06/04 Monolith Monsters (1957) - Meteors cause major mayhem!
    06/11 Frankenstein — 1970 (1958) - Boris Karloff — in the family business!
    - Sventoonie: An Ax to Grind ( Dementia 13 ) (1963)
    06/18 Forbidden Planet (1956) - Robby the Robot! Anne Francis!
    06/25 How to Make a Monster (1958) - AIP’s teen made-up monsters!

    Pretty good lineup. All late 50s. Monolith Monsters is true sci-fi and too often overlooked. How to Make a Monster is a bit disappointing even for AIP.

    I don't think Sven's shown Frankenstein 1970, and if he did it was a long time ago. That's an underrated gem in my book with a fun performance from Karloff.
     
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