Argento's Sleepless?

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  1. DefJeff

    DefJeff Franca Stoppi's #1 fan

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    ive never seen this movie and i really want tooooooooo

    but ive been holding off on the disc thats out now

    anyone know if there is any chance of us seeing a better Region 1 NTSC version of this disc or should i just go out and get the Artisan one ?
     
  2. I highly doubt there'll be a better US disc in a long time. I don't imagine Artisan would let a company like AB put their own version out.
     
  3. DefJeff

    DefJeff Franca Stoppi's #1 fan

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    thats pretty much what i was thinking too... i just needed to hear someone else say it :)
     
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    I'd really like to know what Artisan was thinking. Pan and scan an Argento film?

    I mean, why? Isn't the primary target audience for Argento movies pretty much the film-geeks who demand OAR? Do they think the only people who would be interested in the movie are drones who wander into the video store looking for something else?
     
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    DefJeff Franca Stoppi's #1 fan

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    yea man, you basically took the words right outta my mouth
     
  6. I think they were thinking, "this is another horror film that most people won't buy. we'll put it out cheap as possible, sell it to blockbuster, and concentrate on the important pictures, that may actually make us some real money."
     
  7. hell ya!

    hell ya! ~Go ahead, make my day~

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    Just get the disc now, I can't believe i am going to say this but watching it in P&S was not all that bad. Ya it sucks but i was still able to enjoy the movie(great movie btw). At least its uncut.
     
  8. nlogax

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    The Medusa version of NonHoSonno rules. AWESOME picture quality, gorgeous! I loved the movie, it definately washed the bad taste on Phantom of the Opera out of my mouth!:D
     
  9. Shannafey

    Shannafey Don't Monkey With Me!

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    Def, Most Blockbusters have the Artisan disc or tape for rental if you want to check it out.
     
  10. bloodthirsty

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    I picked up the 2-DVD UK version as soon as it was released! it was the best £14.99 I ever spent!

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    Disc 1: Theatrical trailer, Making of Sleepless, Dario Argento biography and filmography, Production stills gallery.

    Disc 2: 'An Eye For Horror' documentary (60 mins). Features clips from various Argento films and includes interviews with Dario, John Carpenter, George Romero, Alice Cooper, Keith Emerson, Daria Nicolodi, Asia Argento, Lamberto Bava, and others, Stills gallery.

    another reason to be 'all region - ntsc/pal' capable :D

    AND, I just read this at the www.bbc.co.uk website:

    "...It is also worth noting that unlike the cut German and US discs, the UK version is completely uncut."

    strange... the UK version is listed as being 117min. and so is the U.S. version.
    isn't a PAL DVD that is the SAME LENGTH as a NTSC DVD supposed to be shorter in running time because of the conversion rate difference? so does this mean that even though the running times of both PAL & NTSC discs are the same, the PAL is actually LONGER, therefore confirming the UNCUT claim?
     
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  11. maringo

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    Correct.

    There's also an uncut Italian DVD where the Italian dubbing replaces the poor English dubbing (but you lose Von Sydow's performance). I think it has a DTS soundtrack too.
     
  12. Paff

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    Also, I believe the VHS copy from Artisan is heavily cut. I've seen the Artisan DVD, and it looks intact (minus the horrible pan-and-scan of course). I could be wrong about that, but the Artisan DVD contains the extremely graphic violence, so it's hard to imagine that there are even more violent scenes that have been removed. You never know though...

    I'd buy that UK version in a second, but the PAL conversion on my player sucks big time. I may still buy it anyway, just to have a good copy for when I eventually get a better player.

    But if you haven't seen Sleepless yet, you should get a copy one way or another. Best version are the imports naturally, if you can convert PAL properly. While the Artisan release should be a last resort, it's better than not seeing the film at all.
     
  13. Andrew

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    Artisan DVD is uncut, but the VHS is snipped to shreds. I have the disc, and it's not THAT bad. I mean it's like a good VHS.

    Plus that EYE FOR HORROR documentary sucks. I payed $15 for the Image disc and was quite disappointed.
     
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    I thought Eye For Horror was pretty cool. It had some decent interviews. I was surprised to see an interview with my old film teacher Maitland McDonagh on that disc.
     
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    When in the US I boycotted the Artisan disc. I wiated until I could get the UK MIA disc - which is PAL, but region 0 (despite what the box art says).

    Talking about bad dubbing on an italian film is a bit like contemplating why grass is green.
     
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    Is she as dull and dry as an instructor as she is a writer?

    Her Argento book is very deep and informative, but she also manages to suck the fun out of a lot of the movies. And sometimes I think she read WAY too much into the films. She knows her stuff, that's for sure, so I'd love to have her as an instructor, as long as I stayed awake...
     
  17. bloodthirsty

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    dont worry about all the down talk about the superior UK edition... some people can't cope with not being able to play PAL discs, so they just bash em.
    I wonder why the folks at www.bbc.co.uk would say the U.S. version was cut?
     
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    Well - the edges are cut :D

    I also have the German version - where they swap the documentary for the soundtrack.
     
  19. zombi3

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    Actually, I took two classes with her when I was in college - Film 1 and Film Genres: Horror. The latter I took as a summer class to grab an easy 3 credits. I found these to be the most enjoyable film classes that I had taken. We watched and analyzed such films as Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Reflecting Skin, Near Dark, Nosferatu (1922),and Martin, among others. Anyway, as an instructor, Maitland definitely knows her stuff, but I think film professors always read way too far into movies. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, you know? ;)
     
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    Maybe they assumed the Artisan disc was the same as their VHS?
     

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