Argento's Sleepless?

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    There are two versions of the Artisan disc, theres the Uncut one, but my Best Buy has a R-Rated version also.
     
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    you must be kidding!?!?!?! so Artisan wasted TWO versions of this and couldn't do one of them LBX? what a dump of a company!

    I'm SO glad I can play any region/ntsc/pal DVDs! anything to screw over the U.S. majors and support the companies that truly CARE about the movies they put out by releasing the best possible version they can; which just shows they CARE about the people that buy them!
     
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    Artisan used to be pretty good. Their Jacob's Ladder and Pi discs come to mind, but they definitely had something very bad happen to them. But yeah, theres R-Rated and Uncut. The Best Buy here only has the R-Rated one. I had the misfortune of seeing 30 minutes of the R-Rated video back when I worked at a video store, and it's cut so bad you really can't tell what is going on. They didn't even bother to try and make the cuts unnoticable.
    I couldn't even get through it. I did enjoy the hell out of the theme music though.

    I don't know too much about making DVDs, but would it kill them to just release discs with R-Rated versions on one side and Uncut versions on the other? Or Widescreen/Fullscreen. MGM does it with most of their DVDs, I know it's possible.
     
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    After reading threads about Sleepless on this board for the past year, I'm gonna bite the bullet & order the Artisan disc (no region-free player for me). I've heard too many positive things about the film to ignore a shoddy pan & scan release (at least the OAR is 1.85/1, imagine if it was shot in 2.35/1 & pan & scanned,eeekk!)
     
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    You donj't need region free - just PAL conversion - the UK release is region 0.
     
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    Yes, but it's anamorphic, which most PAL converters don't do properly. Which is worse? A stretched picture or a trimmed picture? Tomato, tomahto. Sucks either way.

    I think the thing with Artisan is that they've supposedly partnered up with Blockbuster, thus explaining the R-Rated/Uncut issue and the fullscreen thing too. Not making excuses, it's still a BAD decision, but I think that's why they did it.

    Considering that many of my first viewings of Argento films (Opera, Inferno, Two Evil Eyes, Cat O Nine Tails, Stendhal Syndrome) were not proper OAR, it doesn't kill me to have to watch a pan-and-scan Sleepless. Hell, I'm still waiting on OAR versions of Stendhal and Two Evil Eyes. I gotta get me a good PAL converting player though, then I'm all over that UK copy
     
  7. Andrew

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    Chris - are you sure they only have the R-rated cut? Cuz that's where I got my disc, and I'm 99% sure it's uncut.
     
  8. bloodthirsty

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    that's why I use my computer DVD-ROM drive to watch PAL anamorphics. I just mirror the monitor image to my TV. perfecto!
     
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    I guess it probably depends. My Best Buy only had the R-rated version, but I'm sure some have the Uncut version. Most of the time Best Buy has Uncut stuff with my experience, so I think it's maybe a mistake here. Either way I'm extra confused now, I just saw Artisan's Deep in the Woods DVD (suprisingly enjoyable movie actually) and it has both Widescreen and Fullscreen on it, so someone's just being lazy apparently. Or what Paff mentioned about Blockbuster, but they have they Unrated version of Y Tu Mama Tambien which has a scene with two guys jacking it, so I don't know.
     
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    thanks for all the input

    im probly gonna end up renting this one like Shannafey suggested

    for some reason, i was thinking this wouldnt be available at Blockbuster

    i havent been there forever, i have no idea what their selection is
     
  11. My Blockbuster got it.
     
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    Just wanted to add something on that - not just because I love her book and her writing. Anyone can read a lot into film for a very simple reason: After a film is out in the theatres or in DVD it does not belong to the director anymore, but to it's viewers. Tom Holland says that THINNER is about redemption but I could not see that in the film. It works the other way around. Someone could see something that was not "planted" there by the director. That's why movies ARE fun!
     
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    Paff, I know you have the Japanese LD of Stendhal Syndrome, are you saying that it's a full frame presentation? If so, you should pick up Troma's DVD release. It's framed at 1.66/1, or is Stendhal supposed to be framed in a different ratio???
     
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    I have both the Japanese LD and the Troma DVD. They're the exact same transfer.
    You'll see the boom mike in several shots, usually a dead giveaway that the transfer opened up too much.
     
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    Wow, I've never noticed any boom shots before, but I'd rather have the transfer opened up too much rather than being cropped too much/pan & scan. Thanks for the scoop Paff.
     
  16. EPKJ

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    Sleepless

    This is odd. I can't find one single reference to an R rated version of Artisan's release of Sleepless online. I have never seen one. I bought my copy at Best Buy, and they only had one version. It was unrated. As far as I know, there is only one version. Can you show a link to a source which will verify your statement?
     
  17. dvdasia62

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    There is two versions put out by Artisan. A cut version for some rental stores and an uncut version. It's just fact.
     
  18. EPKJ

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    Your response is not helpful. Evidence would be. Can you show a link to a site which verifies this? As I stated, I can't find one. It is not "just fact" simply because you say so.
     
  19. dvdasia62

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    OK dude, have it your way. :)
     
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