Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)

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  1. thing

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    Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)​

    Directed by Anthony Russo & Joe Russo
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    6-6.5/10
    I really enjoyed the Captain America: The First Avenger with its World War II setting and its old school adventure appeal in the capable hands of Joe Johnston who had worked on Raiders of the Lost Ark and directed The Rocketeer. With the modern day setting now in place however I was not sure how it would be, but he did look good in The Avengers. Another worry was it was being helmed by the creators of the tv show Community who were first time big screen directors. All things considered it turned out ok, it has some great stuff but some real problems with execution that hinder enjoyment.
    Starting with the good, it has an interesting story to tell on both the larger World level and the personal level to Captain America. The tone of the film is excellent, not too goofy, just the right amount of humour and real consequences to the carnage. The effects and sound were excellent with a rousing and exciting score to boot. Scarlett Johansson and Chris Evans were fabulous together and there wasn't really a weak member of the cast all around.
    Now the bad, starting with the biggest eyesore which was how bad the combat scenes were filmed, they were worse that Christopher Nolan's with some of the shakiest an over edited combat scenes I have seen. The un-watchability of these was a real hinderance to enjoying the film because they are quite frequent. The big action scenes (non-hand to hand combat) were not quite as bad but still could have been much better. There was a fairly good car chase scene in daylight with a lot of gunfire that was good but I kept thinking how amazing this would be in the hands of Michael Mann. Also whilst the story was good and had lots of layers, they tried to cram too much in and parts felt rushed, they should have left some stuff out and made not only a more concise film but a shorter one also.
    In the end I really enjoyed the quieter character moments and conspiracy moments better than anything the action had to offer and they are what kept the film going. It was certainly a lot better than the goofy Iron Man III and more even than Thor: The Dark World, so despite its poor execution this may just pip the Thor sequel as being the best of Phase Two so far.
     
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    anyone seen this yet?
     
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    my wife and I are planning on going tonight.
     
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    Saw it last week and loved it. Nothing bad to say. Probably my favorite phase 2 Marvel film.
     
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    I would hope that's the case. Iron Man 3 was dreadful, and Thor: The Dark World was just...ok. After the high water mark of The Avengers, they need a particularly strong entry to prove that they haven't jumped the shark.
     
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    I found it exceptionally good compared to those two films.

    Iron Man 3 is definitely better the second time around though. I watched it again a few nights ago and knowing what to expect I found myself much more entertained.
     
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    Good movie. Way better than the first Captain America installment. I liked the plot & the pacing of the film and it was never boring imo. And another yes to that it was better than Iron Man 3.
     
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    I have a hard time believing I'd enjoy Iron Man 3 more upon a second viewing. At least when watched the first time, the first half of the film appears to include a fantastic villain.

    what didn't you like about the first Captain American film? I've spoken to a more than a couple of people who consider it the best of the individual films from the first wave. I'm not sure I'd go that far (I think I prefer Iron Man myself), but I really enjoyed it. I think in particular I liked the fact that it was a period film.
     
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    First cap America was boss! And at least you could see what was going on in the fight scenes
     
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    it's the best of phase 2 but thst says very little as phase 2 has been a huge disappointment
     
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    I enjoyed Winter Soldier better than the first Captain America film also.
     
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    Exactly, so knowing what to expect the second time around I found myself enjoying the film for what it was, not what I was expecting it to be. That's how my gf and I felt about it anyway.
    Well the more I think about it, it's probably one of my favorite Marvel films in general. I had no issues with the fight scenes. I thought they were done really well and filmed fine.
     
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    I'm pretty baffled at all the great reviews this is getting, as the first film was as cardboard as they come. I'm happy to hear it, though, as I've always liked Cap, especially since Ultimates. Glad to see he's finally getting his due on the big screen and outside of a team movie. Will give this a watch when I'm hungover and it's on VOD.
     
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    I thought they were the worst fight scenes ever filmed in a big feature.
     
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    I've enjoyed all of the modern day Marvel Studios releases (in this continuity) so far, some more than others, but at the moment the story behind Winter Soldier has yet to interest me and I was one to buy the first film sight unseen. Other than the trailer, that is. I'll check it out in a couple of months on video, but the herky jerky action cam never appeals to me and I've heard that it's pretty terrible in this one. I think that what these movies need is to have far less emphasis on SHIELD in the future. Hell, I already got tired of Samuel L Jackson way back in the 90s.
     
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    You've obviously never seen a Michael Bay film.
     
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    We enjoyed it. I'll have to rewatch Thor: The Dark World to decide which one I like better. Neither one completely blew me away. I think the problem is that the novelty of seeing these characters on the big screen is starting to wear off. Case in point - the after-credits teasers. In the first wave of films, each teaser hinted at the reveal of the next superhero, which was pretty exciting. Now, they just repeat the same things over and over again - oh look, there's Loki's sceptre...again. Not exactly thrilling.

    On the plus side (I suppose), Guardians of the Galaxy will be a new set of characters. Hopefully it turns out to be a good movie, though, as it looks flat out ridiculous.

    At this point, the Marvel film I'm most looking forward to seeing is Ant Man, and that just because it will be directed by Edgar Wright.
     
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    Just saw the movie and loved it.
    Sure, it lacked the old-school Indiana Jones style, but I actually think I liked this one even more :)

    I had no problems following the fights, as the shaky cam isn't near as bad as in the Bourne films. I thought the fight choreography was top notch, and a lot more brutal than I had expected. Just a decade ago, fights like this would probably earn the movie an R-Rating. Lots of amazing stunts! The blend of practical FX and CGI was pretty much seamless. Also the score and sound mix also deserves high praise. I can't wait to get my hand on the BD and crank the volume to 11 :D

    MUCH better than Thor 2.
     
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    Loved the first film, I actually pretty much always prefer the original movie to the sequels so I wasnt too surprised that the 2nd one was not as good but the thing is it actually could have been close if they either did not use shakey cam for the action scenes (in particular the combat scenes) or at least used it more like the Bourne films where you can still make out who is fighting and what they are doing. Anyways so far the original movie beats the sequel doe superhero films .. maybe Avengers 2 will change that or the new X Men?
     
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    i must be becoming accustomed to it, because i didn't notice the shaky cam at all in this one. it just played like any other big action blockbuster.
     

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