Did the Friday remake do Jason proud?

Discussion in 'Site Polls' started by rhett, Feb 17, 2009.

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How was the FRIDAY THE 13TH remake?

  1. Awesome. It surpassed all expectations.

    16 vote(s)
    11.4%
  2. Good. A successful relaunch.

    53 vote(s)
    37.9%
  3. Mediocre. Crystal Lake just ain't the same.

    47 vote(s)
    33.6%
  4. Dud. Bring on Jason X2!

    24 vote(s)
    17.1%
  1. Kim Bruun

    Kim Bruun Resident Scream Queen

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    I enjoyed it... It doesn't have the atmosphere of the original films, but it was fun and fast.

    I liked:

    *Boob jokes. They worked for me.
    *Jumps scares. Plenty of those.
    *The ladies and the gay guys may not be offered the same smorgasbord as the straight guys, but we still get the jerk's ripped chest and Jared Padalecki's hot, flaring nostrils.
    *The Winter catalogue masturbation joke.

    I didn't like:

    *Racial stereotypes. They didn't offend me, but they weren't funny.
    *The fact that the jerk was too much of a jerk. It stretched credibility because his girlfriend was so nice. They could at least have made his death much more prolonged and humiliating.
    *The fact that Jason kept a prisoner all that time. It shouldn't be within his capabilities.
    *Jason's underground lair. The Part 2 shack worked better.

    I missed:


    *The camp setting - though not every Friday features it, there is just something essentially Friday about it.
    *The creepy atmosphere of the original first three. The film was clearly made for young audiences with the attention span of a guppy.
     
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  2. Grim

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    I say good. I always knew this wouldn't be the perfect Friday film that many were expecting it to be. Anybody complaining about the way it looked and felt after they saw it, well, you should have known that going into it. The trailers and plethora of still pictures were more than enough to let you know how this one was play out.

    I mean the guys behind the film had a lot going against them and a real uphill battle, especially the writers. There was no way the film would ever get greenlit if it was the mother doing the killing the whole time. Yet, if they axe the Ms. Voorhees plotline, then Jason's motive and drive to kill is gone, so they have to find some way to work it in. They did the best with what they had to work with.

    And all this talk about how it didn't feel like Jason. Please, there really hasn't been any consistency to the Jason Voorhees character, save for Kane Hodder's pushed out-chest, wrestler-stance Jason who turns his head slowly every ten seconds that every seems to love so much. Steve Dash and Ted White did it best, and to me Derek Mears encapsulated those two. A much more lean and agile Jason, yet still dark and brooding. Still, when it comes down to it, Jason is pretty much interchangeable with any other slasher movie killer (Cropsy, Michael Myers in Halloween 4+, Victor Crowley, the Miner/Axel, the Prowler, etc.) It's the mythology behind him, which they got right, that makes him unique, and shit, that ain't even that much different from the others.

    I'm not trying to put Jason down because he honestly is my favorite of the horror villains, it just seems like people are giving too much credit to a bunch of guys in the early 80's who were mainly concerned with making a quick buck (Cunningham and Miner specifically). I'd even go as far and say that the producers, writers, and director behind this flick had more of their heart in this project than the guys behind the first three.

    To each his own, though. I'm glad people are so divided. We haven't debates like these since the last Rob Zombie movie came out.:D
     
  3. Bobbywoodhogan

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    F*ck yeah I loved it.

    I thought it was awesome, 8/10 from me, leaves room for improvement (NOT A BAD THING), bring on Part 2 :D
     
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    Have to agree with Matt here :lol:, I thought it was shit.
    It was like watching a another pathetic sequel and I couldn't wait for most of the characters to be killed as they annoyed the fuck out of me and it couldn't end quick enough for me! Also Jason was everywhere just walking about, nothing mysterious about him. I preferred it in the first films where he would just pop out of nowhere and kill his next victim. At least we all got a refund for it as 2 arseholes behind us wouldn't shut the fuck up! It was like having an audio commentary, then they were talking on they're mobile and then got chucked out :mad: So at least it ended in a good note. :D:banana:
     
  5. bigwes15

    bigwes15 Active Member

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    I have to admit that I didn't really like this one very much. Maybe what some of you are saying is true and I'm just too old to love the Friday experience like I did when I was seeing these as a kid in the 80's, but I don't know. I still love horror movies and have enjoyed several of the newer ones...even some remakes (I liked the first TCM remake and absolutely LOVED the prequel/sequel), so it's not just a condemnation of Platinum Dunes for me. There was all of the elements that should have made it a success...T & A, some fairly gory deaths that seemed to be mostly practical effects, and the fact that they were back at Crystal Lake. Even with all those factors in the movie's favor, it just left me flat. I didn't like the cast very much, Jason was too much of a plotter instead of a straight up unstoppable force, and they didn't do much with the atmosphere. 5 out of 10 at the most, and that's being overly generous.
     
  6. The Chaostar

    The Chaostar Johnny Hallyday forever

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    I had fun with it. F13 (the original) was nothing special to begin with, for me at least - leaving the fond memories behind. It's not TCM or NOTLD. It's a slasher that feels a lot like Twitch Of The Death Nerve.
     
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    Just came back from seeing it tonight. I'm a bit tired so I'll keep it short: I liked it. It wasn't exactly like I thought it was going to be, meaning I don't think it's a remake (at least not of part 1). Near as I can tell, the events of regarding the mother happen exactly as they did in the original , so what this really is is just another sequel, but in the same way most of the Godzilla films are in what's referred to as "the Millenium series" (The only films that matter canon wise are the original and the newest one. All the rest are discarded.)
     
  8. DVD-fanatic-9

    DVD-fanatic-9 And the Next Morning, When the Campers Woke Up...

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    Agreed.
     
  9. infinite

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    possibly the worst friday in the series, the least effective and scary, and the wackest plotline ever. but hey, most of the sequels in this saga aren't oscar winners anyway. I prefer the first 8 films over this. it's not the jason I like to see, I guess I just love the really old ones the most
     
  10. Matt89

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    WORD.

    ~Matt
     
  11. Grim

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    Wackest plotline? It was basically Part 4 minus the Jarvis family. Say what you will about scares, gore, acting, score, direction, writing, etc., but the plot is identical to basically 60% of the entries in the series.
     
  12. Angelman

    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    HA. That trailer insured I will see it.
     
  13. Harry Warden

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    I have to agree with a few others here. I LOVED the new Friday the 13th. I can see how Matt89 may make some comparisons to TCM. The style of the film overall is very similar, but I also see differences. Regardless, I really enjoyed the new film and I am looking forward to the extended release on dvd.
     
  14. eric_angelus

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    I don't actually hate myself for watching this, but it was not good.
     
  15. vampyr789

    vampyr789 9, 10. Never Sleep Again.

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    same for me...:rolleyes:
     
  16. othervoice1

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    Well I saw this tonight finally. Was cool to get a Last House on the Left (which didnt impress me at all) and a Transformers 2 Trailer. The movie was okay, it just wasnt as good as I thought it might or could have been. And they should have put in some of the Friday signature music/sound whatever you call it. I think I heard it in the opening credit sequence but not in the movie unless I missed it somehow. I dunno but I was not a fan of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake either, although I liked this one more than that. I will say I enjoyed the experience at My Bloody Valentine 3-D a lot more but the 3-D really helped that one IMO. I would say mediocre, didnt hate it but didnt love it.
     
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    It worked for me.

    Honestly, you die-hard Jason fans nitpicky and hard to please. It has everything the '80s films did -- and the lack of gory or inventive kills was more in line with the "realistic" tone they had in mind. (Of course, you have to wonder how much say the MPAA had with the remake in terms of the violence.)

    I'm not much of a Friday fan, but I liked this a lot better than the more recent entries. (A helluva lot better than the shitfests Part V and VII was.)
     
  18. Paff

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    OK, here's a little more from me, now that I've had time to digest it.

    I mentioned in one of the other 7843 threads on this movie that after seeing it, we went to a midnight screening of The Disco Dolls in Hot Skin in 3-D, a 70s porn movie. Tongue in cheek (no pun intended...well, maybe a little), I said the acting and storyline were about as good. Obviously, that is not true. As bad as F13 was, it was made with a million times more talent. Of course, a million times zero...

    Anyway, I did see a similarity between the two films I saw that night, if you'll bear with me. You see, I enjoy erotica and erotic cinema. Movies like Sex and Zen, Erotic Ghost Story, and other films with seduction and teasing. But then there's something like Disco Dolls, which is simply people fucking on camera. It's not the same. It's not erotica (granted, it never was intended to be).

    Here's my analogy: Disco Dolls is to erotica what the Friday the 13th remake is to horror. As in, it ain't. Friday the 13th did not show horror; it showed people getting killed. While that is certainly horrific in real life, there was nothing remotely frightening about this movie. Nothing. And "jump scares" don't count, dammit! I want seduction, and teasing. And yes, I'm talking about horror when I say that. I want that super-creepy feeling that "something" is out there. I want there to be creaky noises and shadows moving, only to find it's the stupid cat. Build it up, dammit!!

    No Friday the 13th movie is high quality cinema, but if you watch the first two films, you'll see the things I mention. Point of view shots (others have mentioned this too), some suspense, just....something. When I saw the original F13 last year at midnight, it was a raucous crowd, making fun of it, laughing AT it. But when shit started getting serious and counselors started getting killed, the crowd got a lot quieter. Like I said, not high quality cinema, not even among the upper echelon of horror films, but at least they worked the audience a little.

    Not one bit of that here. Not one bit. Look at the opening 15 minute sequence. Clearly aimed at the audience members with the attention span of a gnat, 'cause if they had to wait more than 20 minutes to see someone get killed, they would have already gotten up and left. And doesn't that insult YOU, as a horror fan??

    People throw around the term "torture porn" about the Saw and Hostel movies, but this is far far far closer to pornography in terms of filmmaker talent than any movie in those two franchises. A very bad movie, Friday the 13th is. A very bad movie. Rhett did not include an option for how truly bad it is.
     
  19. maybrick

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    :lol: Dear God, I haven't been frightened of a Friday the 13th film since I was 10 years old! Talk about some revisionist history going on here. F13 has always been all about the killing, "horror" be damned.

    This has to the funniest thing I've read in this thread yet! :lol: Dude: When have the makers of F13 EVER made the audience wait even 10 minutes for a kill, let alone 20? Don't you even realize that the criticisms you're making against Friday the 13th are the very same ones that critics have been making against the series all along?

    My God, you guys are hysterical! :lol:
     
  20. spawningblue

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    :lol: No shit. it's like these people have never watched the rest of the franchise.
     

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