DVDC's Laserdiscs

Discussion in 'Laserdisc' started by DVD Connoisseur, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. Dobby

    Dobby Well-Known Member

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    I pretty much threw the towel in when it comes to LD's. They all pretty much look like crap and strain my eyes. I have a few I hold onto for nostalgia reasons only. Beyond that I just don't bother with this format. Interesting reading the comments on here and seeing I am not alone.
     
  2. startide

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    :D How many units do you guys have set up exactly? Given my Sony VCR needs a service I've got two units I haven't even hooked up to my new TV, and if that one were in play I'd have three. My current set up looks chunky enough (Blu, VCR/DVDR, MR DVD, PVR/STB) without the thought of adding laserdisc to it! FWIW though, laser never did take off here in Australia. Everything was imported and the prices were outrageous, no wonder!

    I remember researching TVs when my mum hooked up with another deadbeat (mid 90s) and widescreen TVs being available at the time. They were not compatible with widescreen tapes - Star Wars looked horrendous! For the life of me, I cannot even fathom why they were available in the first place. HDTV didn't even exist, DVD wasn't even around yet and like I said, the take up of laserdisc was virtually zero. Curious.

    Ah the memories.
     
  3. ekent

    ekent The Lord's Arm of Justice

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    Interesting. I was still operating under that school of thought. With this in mind I will try running the video through my receiver. The DVD recorder method seems like a decent option as well, at minimum for comparison.
     
  4. sinister

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    A few pics of some of the horror LD's I kept when I got rid of the player and most of the collection.

    Cannibal Holocaust with poster :

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    Evil Dead (This was my 2nd copy, the 1st one having been seized and destroyed by UK customs!) :

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    Last House on the Left :

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    Dario Argento's World of horror :

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  5. Paff

    Paff Super Moderator

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    I have that disc of Cannibal Holocaust, but I don't recall there being a poster inside. I will have to re-check. I do have the Cat in the Brain disc with the poster, and the Cannibal Ferox with the barf-bag though. Those are nice LD bonuses.

    I also have the Japanese Evil Dead shown above. I will have to pop it in the player and see how it looks on the plasma. I remember it looking gorgeous on my old 4x3 analog TV

    My copy of World of Horror is the Synapse release. Gold disc, maybe? I also have the Japanese doc, Dario Argento: Master of Horror. I think that was ported as an extra on some DVD by now though, right?
     
  6. DVD Connoisseur

    DVD Connoisseur Active Member

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    I have the Argento: Master of Horror DVD from Synapse (can't remember what set it's with now, wasn't Eye For Horror added to a recent release?).

    Beautiful collection, sinister! This is the first time I've seen the majority of these releases!
     
  7. Sam

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    Nice collection, DVDC. I still have several hundred LDs myself and really used to go all-out buying them from around 1996 to 2004 or so. I pretty much stopped buying them when blu ray came out and haven't picked up any since around '07. Like a few others mentioned, they really take some work to look decent on modern 1080p displays. They actually don't look too bad on my 480p Infocus projector w/ faroudja scaler from about eight years ago, but they aren't looking so hot on my 2011 Panasonic Viera plasma. Blu Rays are almost certainly more enjoyable to watch and the LDs are more fun to stare at on the shelf. The 16-bit PCM audio on laserdisc does, however, occasionally give the blus a good run for their money. It goes without saying that LD was way ahead its time and paved the way for things we take for granted today (widescreen, lossless audio, commentary tracks, etc).
     
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  8. DVD Connoisseur

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    Absolutely, Sam! We were the pioneers...the early adaptors! :) It's funny but I never think a format will become extinct. When I was taping programmes and films on VHS, I thought I'd be using them forever!:eek1:

    Must admit, I think my last LD was Tomorrow Never Dies. After that, I'd purchased a DVD player and when the PS3 was around a year old, I started on blu.

    Funnily enough, the vast majority of my purchases are still on DVD as many titles still haven't emerged on the blu-ray format. I just love my independent movies!:D
     
  9. startide

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    Nice pics. DVD special editions aren't nearly as pretty!

    BTW, what is the quality like on that Last House LD? I have that very edition on VHS (was one of my first ebay purchases back in the day when it was still banned) and the movie starts sometime after the opening credits!!! Um yeah, thanks. That's something you might have mentioned in the ebay description! I've got bootlegs that are better quality than that!!

    FWIW, I found some nice DVD SE porn here:
    http://nighthecamehome.blogspot.com
     
  10. Paff

    Paff Super Moderator

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    What Faroudja scaler are you using?
     
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    Paff Super Moderator

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    LASERDISC HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE......at CinemaPaff

    I just took possession of a Faroudja NRS Digital Video Processor and have been playing with it all evening. Laserdisc looks remarkably better with it, and I will defnitely be watching a lot more discs in the coming weeks. Now, I'm no fool, and they sure as hell don't hold a candle to my Blu-Rays. But I have over 500 of these things, and it's cost prohibitive to replace them all at once. We're talking about the Indiana Jones movies, Star Wars, Terminator, Alien, Hammer horror, Kurosawa Criterions, Roan's Spaghetti Nightmare collection (Demons 1 and 2, Phenomena, Tenebrae), the list goes on and on. $150 to improve the look of my sizeable collection is not a bad option at all.

    Unfortunately, the end cost was double what I intended (and could go to triple), as the first unit I purchased off of E-bay was DOA. It also has the wrong preset output resoluton, which is NOT user-changeable. You must get a factory repair, which is about the cost of the unit itself (at current E-bay price). Instead of getting the factory repair, I just chose to get another one with the correct preset output. I'm hoping to get a refund from the E-bay seller, although that's a longshot. If not, I'll get it upgraded from the factory, and then I'll have one available for sale here.

    If anyone is serious about keeping LD alive in their systems, this is an excellent way of making the picture somewhat palatable on today's HD screens.
     
  12. SaxCatz

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    I told you! :D
    Similar results can be obtained with an upper-mid-range or better AVR equipped with a sophisticated video processor such as the Silicon Optix HQV Reon or Vida or the Marvell qDeo. There are some mid-range AVRs available with these chips but I specify "upper-mid-range" as that is when AVRs start to pack in better analog sections for better analog to digital conversion, which is the most important part of the process.
     
  13. Paff

    Paff Super Moderator

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    I will admit, it was this thread that revived my interest in the format. I saw those photos of all those discs, some of which I already own, some I've wanted to own. And how it was a shame that I never actually watched those discs anymore, they just sat in my racks collecting dust.

    Did some further testing last night. For one thing, I retract my original statement that the Altona scaler I was using eliminated the chroma noise on the Snell & Wilcox pattern. No option I've used has eliminated that yet. Secondly, that Altona scaler was absolute shit, and far worse than simply plugging my LD player directly into my plasma. Why I was even using it is beyond me, and I probably would have watched more LDs in the last few years just using the composite in.

    Has anyone ever gotten rid of that rainbow effect on the Snell & Wilcox pattern? Is it even possible with LD, short of getting one of those $1500 Japanese players?
     
  14. DVD Connoisseur

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    Really pleased to read that this thread has brought new life to your collection, Paff! I think it's a shame that mine will probably never be played again (and I have some titles that I won't upgrade).

    Love the link, too, startide!
     
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    Unfortunately I don't have the Snell and Wilcox test disc so I can't say. But I do know that I definitely still have some chroma noise/bleed on my setup but I've always attributed that to my player which is just a CLD-D701.
     
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    The Snell & Wilcox pattern is on the Video Essentials LD, which is (if you'll pardon the pun) essential to own if you are a laserdisc viewer. Poor video calibration becomes far more noticeable on LD than Blu or DVD.

    But yeah, I'm thinking I won't get much more chroma noise reduction than what I have, without upgrading the player. And since it's a CLD-D704, there's not much more room to improve (Elite CLD-99 or one of the super-expensive Japanese players).

    I still think I'll throw in a few old favorites over the weekend and see how they stack up with the new scaler. Definitely one of the Roan Argento discs (either Phenomena or Tenebrae), maybe something like Jurassic Park, Mimic, The River Wild, or In the Mouth of Madness on DTS. And one of my Hong Kong discs with the dual subtitles.
     
  17. jscott

    jscott Guided By Voices

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    Checked out some LD's this weekend on my new 32" Sony LCD, and the image looked surprisingly good (I'm not talking HD quality, but for SD it's very solid. Even with older titles like Phantasm II, and newer ones like Kids In The Hall's Brain Candy, looked nice on the LCD. Not quite as sharp as my 30" Toshiba CRT "HDTV" (it only produced a 540P/1080I image), but still, really decent, especially considering Phantasm II is an old, VHS quality release. Also I'm still using my 504 (the only player I have that still works, my 701 conked out a couple years ago).

    Tried running the LD through my Panasonic stand alone recorder (which only puts out a 480P signal), then to the old Toshiba tube and my new Sony LCD, and the image wasn't as good as going straight to the TV. Next I'm gonna try the S-Video connection instead of the composite, see what difference it makes.
     
  18. Paff

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    I wouldn't expect a big improvement, if any here. The 504 wasn't a top-line player to begin with, and even though today's HDTVs don't require a top-notch comb filter anymore, it's gotta be better than the one in the 504.

    You'll probably notice the same thing I have; that full frame and 1.85:1 movies will do the best on LD-to-HDTV. The scope films will suffer. I did try watching In The Mouth of Madness a few weeks ago and it wasn't too good. Still watchable, of course, but noticeably lesser in quality. Phenomena looked outstanding though, and Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn't too bad either.
     
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    IIRC it was quite soft and grainy. Better than any VHS release at the time but not really comparable to the DVD versions that came later.

    BTW sorry about the broken links to the pics, my webspace seems to be having problems lately but I'll fix them when I can access it again.
     
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    Finally fixed the picture links on page 2. My webspace has been timing out for months and still isn't fixed, but it lasted long enough to get the links updated at least.

    Oh and I'll post a link to much better pic's of the DOTD booklet over on the other thread here:

    http://www.horrordvds.com/vb3forum/showthread.php?t=43765
     

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