Ever experienced Laser rot?

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  1. Sam

    Sam Member

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    I've been having a lot of bad experiences lately with rot (6 titles in one week, ouch!). May be because I have a lot of 80s films, who knows.

    Anyone know of Horror films that have rotted on you, or 'well-known' to rot from other sources?
     
  2. wago70

    wago70 Surviving on nostalgia

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    I have, but only on a few titles: Suspiria, Bird with the Crystal Plumage (1989 Image version), Last House on the Left, Mute Witness, Copycat, Inseminoid (Import), Demons (Import), Contact, Party Girl, Star Wars collection (CAV - Return of the Jedi is the only one with the rot problem)...notice that some are from the '90's and are now known to contain "LR" since they were all pressed at the same facility.
    These titles are FINE, but have been known to have laser rot: Alien (SE), Aliens (SE), Carrie (Criterion versions), First Men in the Moon (Columbia re-mastered version), Close Encounters (Criterion CAV) - not a speck to be found in all the years I had these great titles.
     
  3. Paff

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    Actually, I've experienced the most Rot with mid-90s titles. The notorious Sony discs were the worst. I had a rotted Shawshank Redemption, and went through 4 copies of The Usual Suspects before throwing in the towel and going DVD.

    Warner discs seemed to rot quite often too, like True Romance or Freebie and The Bean.

    My Criterion Seven is rotted too, but only on the disc that contains the non-DVD material. Figures.

    Possibly the WORST company for rot is AD Vision's Anime discs. My Neon Genesis Evangelion, Blue Seed, and Burn Up W discs all have some degree of rot.

    I guess the good thing is that if a disc is not rotted yet, it probably never will be...
     
  4. Dave

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    I've never had it. Even the 80s lasers I have are fine. It's certainly not a major problem.
     
  5. Agent Z

    Agent Z "Get to the river...

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    I have only seen a few laserdiscs with actual rot (BLUE THUNDER and FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2 come to mind). I had a copy of A NEW NIGHTMARE that had minor drop-out speckling, which some people mistake for laser rot. Most merchants these days will guarantee their laserdisc stock to be free from laser rot, so it really shouldn't become a major issue when you are looking at titles.
     
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  6. Hellbilly

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    Well, my old Lost Highway LD is rotting but I don't mind since I found a much better looking replacement on DVD.
    The Craft (replaced) is also rotting, and so is Necronomicon which pisses me off since that title ain't available on DVD yet.
     
  7. Tawny

    Tawny You guys got sour balls?

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    I don't know if its got rot, but the Student Bodies laserdisc I picked up has terrible sound quality.:mad:
     
  8. bigdaddyhorse

    bigdaddyhorse Detroit Hi-on

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    Necronomoicon IS on dvd, but only from Brazil, region 0 NTSC so you don't even need a region-free player to watch it. I did a review of the disc a few months back when I got it, so search the reader review thread and try to grab one off ebay (the ony place I've seen em, but the seller I dealt with, dvdbrazil, is great and I got it quick and easy for under $20 including shipping!
     
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  10. Tawny

    Tawny You guys got sour balls?

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    thanks:D
     
  11. Mario77

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    Only a handful out of 200+

    "Friday the 13th" was one. "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" was another of them, and I kinda thought maybe the disc chose to end it's life, like, it was just to much to ask of it to keep playing such a woefully shitty movie. (Thankfully it's on DVD now in DTS!)

    A buddy of mine who's been selling laserdiscs for decades said that sometimes humidity or excessive moisture can really play hell on your discs if they're not sealed well. If you live in a humid climate, that can exacerbate the problem of shoddy manufacturing a few discs have had over the years. I keep all of mine in zip-locks.
     
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    I only have 11 titles so far but I don't think any of them has laser rot. I admit I couldn't really recognize it if I saw it. Anyone has a picture of what It looks like?
     
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    Oh, you'll know it if you see it.

    in it's basic form, it's little white speckles all over the picture. It gets worse over time.

    But you'll know immediately that there's something wrong with the picture.
     
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    Thanks for the info. It brings to mind another question: can you tell if a disc has laser rot just by looking at the disc itself? Does it kind of show up as a physical defect?
     
  15. wizzer

    wizzer get outta here ewe

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    now that paff has said what it is the fugitive that i bought for 19 dollars(story in my sig) is a two disc feature and one of the discs has laser rot but not the other.
     
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    ekent The Lord's Arm of Justice

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    I thought that I had read on here before that laser rot was NOT the white speckling.
     
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    No, you can really only tell by watching the movie.

    If you want to inspect a disc for rot, use the Ross' Exchange method. He scans a LD by popping it in, checking it, then jump to the end of the side (a player with a time search function makes this much easier) as sometimes rot will start on the outside of the disc and move in (LDs are read center-out). Then flip the disc and repeat.

    And yes, sometimes only one disc of a set will rot. Like I mentioned earlier, I bought the 4-disc version of Seven, as it has some features that didn't make it to the DVD. Of those 4 discs, or eight sides, only one side has rot. You guessed it, the one with the non-DVD material....

    While you can't check for rot visually, it's known to happen on certain pressings. Sony/Columbia Tri-Star are among the worst, and I've seen it on a lot of Warner discs (The Fugitive is Warner...). Some Criterions have it.
    I think I've had the best luck by far with Pioneer discs. Image are usually very reliable as well.

    The good news is that rot is a one-time thing. As in, if a disc hasn't rotted by now, it probably never will.
     
  18. Agent Z

    Agent Z "Get to the river...

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    Yes, for the most part. If you see random white speckles here and there, and it doesn't get progressively worse, then you are probably just experiencing "dropouts" and not "rot".

    For a more in-depth look, go here:http://laserdiscs.discdude.net/faq.htm

    and


    http://www.cs.tut.fi/~leopold/Ld/FAQ/
     
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  19. geekcccp

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    Has anyone else had any problems with Criterion LD's because my Halloween is shot to hell. It is the most annoying thing in the world.
     
  20. wago70

    wago70 Surviving on nostalgia

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    My Criterion HALLOWEEN is perfect - I just watched it the other day. However, I had a copy of their MONTENEGRO LD and it was rotted.
    Their CARRIE and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS have had reported incidents of rot, but mine play perfectly to this day. Hardly a speck to be had. Especially on HALLOWEEN CAV - the blacks are solid on mine.
    My old LD of Image's SUSPIRIA is another story, however. Pure Snow.
     

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