FOX BluRay Playback Problems

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  1. Reverenddave

    Reverenddave New Member

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    Just a heads up. Some of the new Fox BR are having playback issues. Apparently it's an issue with the new BD+ encrypted discs. It seems to affect the Samsung and LG players with either very long load times or not playing at all. I haven't seen any reports of problems on the PS3 yet.

    So far the problems are only reported on Fantastic Four: Rise Of The Silver Surfer and The Day After Tomorrow. But there are a bunch of new Fox BR coming out in the next few weeks. And I wouldn't be surprised if those discs have the same problems.

    Playback Problems Reported On Blu-ray Discs
    Fox Speaks Out On Blu-ray Playback Problems

    Here's a list of the upcoming Fox BR releases:

    The Day After Tomorrow (Fox)
    Fantastic Four: The Rise of the Silver Surfer (Fox)
    28 Days Later (Fox)
    28 Weeks Later (Fox)
    Edward Scissorhands (Fox)
    The Fly (1986) (Fox)
    From Hell (Fox)
    The Hills Have Eyes 2 (2007) (Fox)
    Home of the Brave (Fox)
    I, Robot (Fox)
    Prison Break: Season One (Fox)
    Die Hard (Fox)
    Die Hard 2: Die Harder (Fox)
    Die Hard 3: Die Hard with a Vengeance (Fox)
    The Die Hard Collection (Fox)
    Live Free or Die Hard (Fox)
    Pathfinder (Fox)
    Cast Away (Fox)
    Independence Day (Fox)
    Mr. & Mrs. Smith (Fox)
    The Simpsons Movie (Fox)
     
  2. X-human

    X-human I ate my keys

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    Did you even read the article you linked to? Because in the second link according to Fox it's not a problem with BD+, it's a problem with BD-J. Here's the most important information, when it'll be fixed:
    Kudos LG. What the hell Samsung? It's probably just lazy programming on Fox's end, but still what the hell Samsung?
     
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    I did read the article. Here's what it says:

    "As we first reported yesterday, the new BD+ encrypted discs are apparently incompatible with two Blu-ray players (the Samsung BD-1200 and LG's BH100), while delayed load times of up to two minutes have been reported on other players."
     
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    X-human I ate my keys

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    They got the information from Video Business who says the official reason has not been given but indicated Java. All word play. DigitalBits said:
    Not that it really matters, either way it's a problem that needs to be dealt with and swiftly.
     
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    Well, if Blu-Ray's specs had ben finalised before they started making machines, they could have avoided some of this mess. :rolleyes:
     
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    X-human I ate my keys

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    True, although if both formats had been able to work out a compromised hybrid of the two we could have avoided this ENTIRE mess. HD-DVD has required their fair share of firmware updates to get movies to play, Children of Men being the best example. Won't be the last time for either format I'm sure.

    As time goes by more and more electronics are going to require firmware updates. In twenty years you'll probably be doing firmware updates for your new toaster.
     
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    Definately, it's one of the ways they will update encryption methods in an attempt to stay ahead of the people who pirate discs. Whcih is why some studios like Blu-Ray over HD - better and more easily updatable encryption.

    What they want is for yo to connect the thing to the net.
     
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    TV Sets now require Firmware updates!

    DVD Players have as well for years (anyone remember the update your firmware and make it region free?).
     
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    I actually f*cked up a player with a firmward update (DVD). The last three players I've bought were made region free from the remote - so no new firmware needed.

    Mind you, I was doing firmware updates on PC's fifteen years ago.........
     
  10. Nemesis

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    my dvd player was mod chipped to be region free (bought it back in early 99 when 99% of players were region locked, mod chipping was the only option).. i wonder if blu-ray players can be mod chipped to be region free? but then i guess that would fuck up when they do these firmware updates etc..
     
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    Universal's HD-DVD of Evan Almighty will include a web store, so that if you see a pair of sneakers you like in the movie you can order it right away while you watch. :rolleyes: There's that interactivity everyone was scrambling for.

    I know in theory you could, but I've never heard of a DVD player really needing a firmware update. Most region software hacks that I know of are just service tools.
     
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    My old Harmon Kardon had a formware update to turn off Macrovision and whatnot.

    As for the sneakers thing - urgh. Although watching an Giallo and being able to click a button to get a bottle of J&B delivered might be a hoot.
     
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    It looks like Samsung has released a firmware update to correct the problems:

    Samsung Firmware Update Corrects Playback Issues...
     
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    Here's more info on the Samsung firmware:

    The Latest on Blu-ray Silver Surfer "Issues"
     
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    It looks like Spider-Man 3 is having problems on many BluRay players.

     
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    ^ Since there's a week of advanced notice hopefully Samsung will have it taken care of this before street date or soon after. Ironically older Samsung players seem to play it just fine.

    Unfortunately HD-DVD can't squeeze by these past weeks either without some headaches as Transformers, Evan Almighty and Knocked-Up are causing problems on the 360 HD-DVD add-on: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=923790

    My favorite quote:
    Apparently HD-DVD owners still need to keep a pot of boiling water on hand whenever they try a new disc. Is it better than waiting for firmware updates?
     

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