Grindhouse Releasing to release The Beyond on Blu-Ray February 2015

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  1. hellraiser40

    hellraiser40 Well-Known Member

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    i'm very pleased with the Arrow release, though this will now doubt be a very good effort (latest of them i have bought, The Swimmer, was high quality)
     
  2. Steel76

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    I have asked Grindhouse (on facebook) about the release date, and I´m not the only one.
    All we get is silence.

    Edit: Now there is even talk about an April release....
    There are some youtube reviewers that have gotten their copies, so what the hell are they waiting for?
     
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  3. zbinks

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    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=778911272184500&id=125392227536411
     
  4. wago70

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    I will gladly wait for THE BEYOND. Love the flick, love Grindhouse and I gots lotsa fun flicks to enjoy until the Seven Doors is ready for business ;)
     
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    Meh, I'm sticking with my Arrow disc. The Grindhouse release would have to be pretty damn cheap for me to double dip.
     
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    Same here...the Arrow release seems more comprehensive anyway.
     
  8. Zollman

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    The Grindhouse disc has no DNR though, it's the Arrow done right.
     
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    I gotta confess here. I don't see DNR when I watch a movie. Yeah, when someone does a side-by-side comparison of different transfers, then I see a difference. But most of the time when I'm just watching a movie on Blu I love the way it looks.

    For example, I just watched the Criterion Scanners a few weeks ago and enjoyed it immensely. Looked great to me, but then I read here that it's a much-maligned transfer. A couple days after that, Scanner came on TMC in HD, and I synched up the Blu. I have to admit, it did look a little brighter and clearer on TMC. But really, when I was watching the movie I didn't notice a damn thing.

    We get all these screencap comparisons, and freak out if the release we have looks slightly inferior. Man, I just wanna watch the movie.
     
  10. Steel76

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    Arrow used DNR to clean up, most of the scanner noise, which is left alone on the Grindhouse disc. I had hopes that they had made a new transfer from the original negatives.
    Some of those shots looks better on the Grindhouse version, and some on the Arrow, and they both suffer from black crush at places.

    Guess we have to wait even longer for a proper restoration of this classic.
     
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  12. Steel76

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    I´m surprised that we haven't seen any reviews yet.
    The only comments on the disc so far, is from Coolduder on youtube, that got his disc about two weeks ago.
     
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    Stunning transfer. Grindhouse needs to do I Drink Your Blood stat.
     
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    Well, the transfer is, on the whole, better than the Arrow version.
    But it has it´s own problems. First that scanner/machine noise, typical of those older transfers, done at the LVR lab in Italy, but thankfully it´s not one of the worst examples.
    Compression artifacts/blocking does show up. A film with this much noise/grain, should be around 35Mbit/s, to keep it stable enough. But it floats around as low as 16-18Mbit/s at times. This was also a problem on the Cannibal Holocaust disc, when the artifacts showed up in some of the grainier scenes. A dealbreaker? Hell no!

    As with the Cannibal disc, this is the best version so far of The Beyond. Scenes in the dark have more background details visible again, compared to the Arrow release, where they went too far to darken those scenes, leading to black crush. Some still look a bit too dark, but it´s still an improvement. I wish they had stayed away from using Edge Enhancements, as it makes the noise a bit heavier in some scenes.
    The colors look pretty natural, so no problems with any unnecessary boosting there.

    The Italian Mono track, was superb. And there are some demonic voices calling out from the darkness, in some scenes, that are either missing, or are VERY low in the English versions. Haven´t tried the English Mono track yet, but will give the movie another spin this weekend :)

    I´m glad they kept the mono tracks, as the 5.1 remix adds and changes many of the soundFX, and sound far too gimmicky at times. Kinda reminds me of the 5.1 track of The Terminator, when it comes to different gunshots etc. Grindhouse did the same on the LD and DVD of Cannibal Ferox. Let´s hope they include the original Mono track on that release as well.

    Except for that scanner noise popping up and the unstable bitrate, I´m still happy with my purchase. And I still recommend getting it, even if you own the Arrow disc. Especially if it´s one of your favorite horror movies :)


    This is the 9th time I bought the movie, during the last 20-25 years.
    3 on VHS, 1 time on LD, 3 times on DVD and now 2 times on Blu-Ray :D

    If someone gives it a brand new 4k transfer, you can bet your asses that I will buy it again ;)

    Btw, there are whole bunch of easter eggs hidden in the menus.

    Can´t wait to see what Cannibal Ferox and Pieces will look like :)

    Let´s hope, that they also release that batshit insane "Cat in the Brain" as well :D
     
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