Halloween "Resurrection"

Discussion in 'Slashers' started by Loced Out Demon, Jul 13, 2002.

  1. I just got back from the theater, this movie turned out to be better than i thought it would be, but not anything 2 special, it explains alot about michaels past, and has some kool killing scenes, real good muzik, it has its cheesy moments, but it had to have those to appeal to the teen crowd. the ending is pretty good. id say this one is almost as good as h20, and is better than part 6. I wouldnt plan on seeing busta rhymes win an award for this 1, but he did a good job. jamie lee curtis did a real good job. like my opinion on the jason x movie... its not easy to come up with fresh ideas for sequels this far down the road. good movie though I recommend checking it out if your a FAN of the series. otherwise u might wanna save your $.

    my ratings for the entire series=

    pt 1= A
    pt 2= A-
    pt 3= F
    pt 4= B
    Pt 5= B-
    Pt 6= C-
    H20= B
    Resurrection= C

    ever since these movies havent had dr loomis they havent been the same and i think most will agree. peace
     
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  2. dave made a topic bout this rite after i did, yall can delete this if u want
     
  3. KillerCannabis

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    I'll only reply so I can give my grades of the series also:

    Halloween: A (The original classic, one of my favorites of all time)

    Halloween 2: A (One of the best sequels to an original I can think of)

    Haloween 3: B (I dont consider this a Halloween movie, but rather as John Carpenter's Season of the Witch. Its not as bad as people say it is.)

    Halloween 4: B- (Not a great flick, but decent enough, good atmosphere)

    Halloween 5: C (Bad idea, and fuck that "man in black" bullshit)

    Halloween 6: C+ (Not as bad as I thought it would have been, but still FAR, far from good.)

    H20: B+ (Pleasant surprise entry in the series, no doubt due to Miner's direction.)

    Halloween: Resurrection: D+ (A piece of shit, DOA as far as I'm concerned.)
     
  4. mcchrist

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    Halloween 3 was the last true sequel. John had this idea to have a series of films that would take place on Halloween night (since he saw it was going to be sequeled anyway) so Season of the Witch was born. He was even planning on directing a few entries in the anthology, but NOOOOOOOOO!!!! Some people can't believe that other things can happen on Halloween night than some dork with a mask and a kitchen knife... At least that's what I understand....

    J.H. "Two weeks without a cigarette..." McChrist
     
  5. im suprised u actualy like pt 3, it was decent at best, i was dozing off during it, it was real repetive and not very scary at all... if i would have bought it i would have been VERY disapointed, im glad i was warned and i rented it instead. i reccomend that everyone rent pt 3 b4 the go head and buy it. BE WARNED, i have respect for your opinion tho mcchrist everyone has a different taste.
     
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    Worst Movie

    I can agree with everybody who voted for Howling: New Moon Rising and Zombie Lake, but there are two out there that haven't been posted about yet.

    One is called Stagefright, not to be confused with Michael Soavi's giallo. I have no fucking clue what this movie was about. It attempted to be a mystery but seemed to forget that it revealed the murderer in the first couple minutes.

    The WORST movie I ever saw is a film by the name of Blood Lake. I have only seen this movie at one Blockbuster, and I don't know how it got there. Despite being a horror movie, it featured 15 minutes.. yes 15 consecutive minutes.. of WATERSKIING. This movie was either shot on video or on 8mm and is by far the worst thing ever committed to celluloid.
     
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    WTF!? Somehow I posted this in the wrong area. SORRY GUYS! :eek:
     
  8. betterdan

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    Nothing like a fistfuck in the wrong place hehe
     
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    Halloween 8

    To state it simply, I was surprised and delighted with Halloween: Resurrection. I was going in expecting worse than H20, which I despise, and came out ranking it among the middle of the series.

    I'll get the problems out of the way first. The main problem I had was WAY too many in-jokes and cultural references. I assume it would be fairly hard to make a movie about a reality-show without referencing reality TV-shows, but I feel the dialogue relied too heavily on those jokes rather than coming up with relevant exposition. It was interesting to see Laurie clutching the doll that laid on her bed in the original, but the inclusion of the red Firebird that Annie drove and a character (played by director Rick Rosenthal) named Dr. Mixter, among others, was a little too tongue-in-cheek.

    Another problem I had was that Michael wasn't beat up enough. It's true that the unstoppable killing machine cliche is no longer (was it ever) a clever twist, but it's always fun to watch the badguy get his ass beaten in. And the Halloween series in particular has always enjoyed giving Michael what's coming to him. Remember Dr. Loomis going to town in H5? and the lead-pipe beating in H6 always raises my heartrate. Nobody really expected to see Michael still hanging from the wire when Busta jumpkicked him out the window, but he didn't receive enough punishment after that, IMHO.

    The last problem is more of a disagreement in choice. Upon seeing the preview of H8, I figured Laurie Strode would return to final bring Michael down, whether she fell with him or not was to be seen. I didn't expect, which is a good thing, for Laurie to be knocked off in the first 15 minutes. As a filmmaker, I wouldn't have chosen that direction myself, but then again I'm only a sophomore at Temple and have yet to touch a piece of film.

    Now, on with the goodies. Nudity, gore, and Busta. I hope that with the release of H8 and Jason X, the industry takes the hint that we want blood back in horror movies. Post-Scream horror films have shyed away from the use of blood for whatever goddamn reason, probably isn't PC enough, and horror fans have been slow to accept the fact that violence is no longer cool enough for movies. Halloween was never a very gory or graphic movie. It was, however, what I consider violent, and a bit more brutal. It doesn't let the victims get off easy by simply slicing their heads off or throwing them off buildings. Starting with Annie's death in the original, they've let the victims suffer awhile, taking time to make them feel pain before the final blow.

    Also, nudity has not been a trapping of recent horror movies. I'm a 19 year old male and I've seen naked women before, and onscreen nudity does little to excite me, but it's the meaning behind the nudity that I enjoy, that the filmmaker's don't care about offending anyone and will give the fans what they really want.

    Among everyone else, I was wary about going to see a Halloween movie starring Busta Rhymes. To anybody holding back because of this fact: Don't sweat it. Busta is a walking site gag, a combination between Jar Jar Binks and Private Hudson. The scene in which he berates Michael for attempting to "run the show" is laugh out loud hilarious, and, along with the 300 people in the audience with me, I found myself shouting "Trick or treat, mother fucka!" at the screen when it was the proper time. Have fun with this movie guys. If you're a horror movie fan then you have to realize that already your standards are lowered a little. Don't be such a harsh critic.

    This was a fun movie. I was so excited this entire past week, and I'm still excited now. Tonight, my family is going to watch Halloween 4 over a bottle of Arbor Mist in celebration. You should celebrate too, at least by viewing this movie. Have fun, shed your inhibitions and your pretentions, and enjoy the show.
     
  10. betterdan

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    Fistfuck ummm you just sealed it completely. I won't be seeing this for sure not even on dvd. I don't want to see a "fun" halloween movie where you can laugh at a goofy looking rapper doing jump kicks on a killer and yell with the audience 'trick or treat motherfucker". Sounds very very lame as Dave said. Also what do you mean by "If you're a horror movie fan then you have to realize that already your standards are lowered a little." I don't think liking horror movies means your standards are lower if anything liking a movie with a guy that's a "combination between Jar Jar Binks and Private Hudson" in it now THAT'S hitting rock bottom with standards. Nope I'll just stick with the old truly scary horror movies. Ahhhh the screamyboppers
     
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    Here are my ratings:

    Halloween: A+ (Undoubtedly one of the great horror classics)

    Halloween II: A- (Strong follow up, nice direction by Rosenthal)

    Halloween III: B+ (A cheese classic, "Silver Shamrock")

    Halloween 4: B (Cool direction, Pleasence delightfully hams it up. Some slowdown in the middle, but nice climax and a great ending)

    Halloween 5: B- (A nicer visual look than H4, but the inclusion of the man in black really hurts the film. Without him this would score a B+)

    Halloween 6: D (Ugh...)

    Halloween H20: B+ (JLC is great, and the pacing is quick and involving)

    Halloween Resurrection: B+ (Opening is awesome, some inspired moments throughout the rest, Busta drops the rating a notch though)
     
  12. mcchrist

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    I couldn't agree more with betterdan. "If you're a horror movie fan then you have to realize that already your standards are lowered a little." Fistfuck... That is completely insulting, who says that horror is lesser art than anything else? If you think that, then why the heck are you here in the first place? Ugh... I won't say anymore.

    Screamy Boppers indeed!
     
  13. betterdan

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    hehe tell em mcchrist...
     
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    Here's how I rate the series:

    Halloween : A+ (one of the best horror films ever)

    Halloween 2: B (Solid outing, some nice gore, worked for the most part)

    Halloween 3: A (Tom Atkins rocks, enough said)

    Halloween 4: B+ (Thought this was very well made, nice tension)

    Halloween 5: C+ (Could have been better, but not too bad)

    Halloween 6: (Theatrical Cut = D, Producers Cut = B) Amazing how a film can be changed.

    H20: B (Not nearly as bad as people say)

    Halloween Resurection: B (Opening sequence is amazing)
     
  15. Cujo108

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    I might as well post my rankings too:

    HALLOWEEN: A (A classic, but not the best slasher film.)

    HALLOWEEN 2: D- (A dull piece of trash, and the shitty sister idea came from this entry.)

    HALLOWEEN 3: A+ (A superb classic despite all the naysayers. This is my preferred film of the series.)

    HALLOWEEN 4: B+ (Really good sequel that works very well.)

    HALLOWEEN 5: D (A pretty wretched film.)

    HALLOWEEN 6: B (Sorry, but this was a decent sequel.)

    HALLOWEEN H20: F (Simply awful as hell and painful to sit through!)

    HALLOWEEN RESURRECTION: B- (I liked this one quite a bit.)
     
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    eh

    My apologies if you found parts of my post insulting. It wasn't meant to be. I was simply stating that there are people out there, and if you read the user reviews at imdb you know exactly what kind of people I'm talking about, who try and compare the nth sequel of a horror series to Citizen Kane and Gone with the Wind. You simply can't. There are two seperate sets of standards to rate these films. A horror movie is not going to be concerned with emotional depth and social relevance, etc. that a "high art" film would. Therefore, the standards with which we view horror films are "lowered." Most of us could care less about A-list name actors and metaphors, and more about direction, lighting, gore, and scares. So I'm sorry if you were offended, but you must understand where I was aiming with that remark.

    Secondly, I resent being known as a screamy bopper. Yes, that's what it says in the little box under my name. But just because I am new to the board does not mean I'm any less of a horror fan than you are. I would have thought by my lengthy review of H8 that you'd see me as a person who cares greatly about this genre.

    Third, by fun movie I meant I had fun at it. Do you watch movies to depress yourself? I simply meant that there was a lot of energy in the audience, they were really into the movie, and it made the viewing experience much more enjoyable.
     
  17. mcchrist

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    I think is the exact opposite. The horror film is a representation of what society does not want to confront, and in turn act as a reminder of our own fallibility. Dawn of the Dead represented our dependence on materialism and trivialities, instead of the things that really matter to survival. Nosferatu represented the frustration and anger felt after Germany lost the first world war. Modern art criticism stems from Kracour's thesis on the expressionist (most of them horror related) films of the time. I've stated that the slasher movie is the product of the irrational fear felt during the cold war. A horror movie, as with any other genre (even comedy) bears some significance, and are all on an equal playing field in regards to art. As is Welles, as is Warhol, as is Waters. Son't give me any of that lower form of art crap. Where you are aiming, facetious or not, I take this damn seriously and the problem with the world is that too many don't.
     
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    Mccrhist, you're right, anomalies like Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, and, pardon me for never seeing it, Nosferatu do tackle social problems. As do many Clive Barker novels and films. But that's not how I judge horror movies. If a film adds an element of social commentary, then that adds a lot of depth to the film and takes it to a whole other level. In fact, I plan on using theories, more philosophical than social however, in my own films. But to me horror is more an extension of the imagination and soul than a word on the society in which we live. Therefore, elements like originality and mythology play a much more important role. I take horror seriously as well, and it angers me that others don't. I usually have to fight to be taken seriously when I recommend viewing a horror movie.

    BTW, this is interesting about H8. For the past couple days, in Allentown and Hazleton, PA, H8 has been sold out almost every show.
     
  19. Jog

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    Those stinkin' PA folks love the horror flix...

    The theater up my way (near Scranton) was loaded on a Sunday night!

    Also, Mr. Fuck (no offense indended, of course), the reason why so little gore is put into horror films these days (at least IMHO) is because horror movies have been pegged as "teen" stuff, and the MPAA is a little tougher handing out the "R" ratings these days, as they don't want to come under fire for corrupting the morals of our youths. There were guards checking IDs at my theatre...

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    Did you (or anyone else) get the feeling that H8 was trying to set up a "technology vs. human darkness" theme? There is early lip service paid to Mike being an extension of the human capacity for darkness and fear, and he is defeated with the help of fun gadgets (ie human scientific progress). Hell, he's taken out in the end by being literally crucified by computer cables!!! I think the movie would have been better off persuing THAT idea rather than the super-fresh "media exploitation" angle...
     
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    That is an interesting angle Jog, I never thought of the film on that level. Certainly adds more to the film though. I think there is more to H8 than people are giving it credit for. Like I said in my review in the other thread, I think there is a definite underlying comparison between the aged Laurie Strode and Michael Myers in this film, and with this new darkness versus technology angle, there may just be more than meets the eye.
     

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