I hear you have to update these Toshiba's HD players. Regardless of how easy it could be, thats why I'm not buying a HD or Blu-ray player yet. How can they sell these things with updates still coming? Here's a (not mine) review on the Toshiba HD-A20 player: "When I first got this player, I was amazed at the HD DVD playback. But it had a long boot time and standard DVD playback was average. I have kept up with the firmware update. Version 1.5 did not do much. 2.0 dramatically improved standard DVD playback. I kid you not - it is almost high def (like more than 95%). Version 2.2 has cut the boot time in half. I am waiting for v2.5 which will add 24 fps support (although my TV lacks this feature). I have only owned my player for 5 months and I have updated it 3 times. Toshiba support is outstanding. I also own a Sony BDP-S300. Blu-Ray playback is similar to HD DVD but standard DVD upconversion is terrible. Also Blu-Ray Java is inferior to HD DVD when it comes to menus and extra features. I have updated my Sony one time but I have yet to notice any improvement." Thats 3 updates and a 4th on the way in 5 months. That all affected the playback qualities. What about the people that don't know about this? They must think their players stink. Either way, this should not be.