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Discussion in 'General' started by ReelFear, Jun 8, 2007.
Hostel director's cut? I'm intrigued! I wonder if that is getting a high def release as well.
The original Hostel got a hi-def release, as is part II, so it's a good bet this Director's Cut will make it.
I'm edging closer to making a hi-def decision - and I think it'll be Blu-Ray. These would make a nice first purchase.
will get hostel part 2 but i see no need to double dip for the first hostel
Part 2 doesn't nearly pack the same punch as the first one did but I still thought it was great. I guess Roth tried his best in not repeating himself but he only partly succeeded, though. It's basically the same accommodation with different guests. Plus it seemed like Roth was holding back on the grue, with a few exceptions.
The build-up is familiar but the final act is pretty wild.
The ending? A real kicker
I don't think so at all. Instead we get a look inside the torture culture, making the killers human, complete with their own ethical problems. The first half is far less comedic, and Roth exploits different female stereotypes than he did with the males. Sure they both involve a hostel and end in a torture chamber, but they have to. Otherwise, I'd say he went to great lengths to ensure he wasn't just putting the same shit in a different package.
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Rented this from Netflix and watched it Saturday night. I've made it very clear just how much I disliked Rob Zombie's Halloween. Let's just say that remake was a masterpiece compared to Hostel Part 2.
It's astonishing how Roth claims he was influenced by giallos while writing the sequel. Aside from the casting of Edwige Fenech in a worthless cameo, I don't see any connection whatsoever. Most likely copious amounts of pot influenced this screenplay more than anything.
Insultingly predictable, undeniably one dimensional, laughably unrealistic, painfully formulaic - this film is torture indeed to sit through. Sure the level of gore allowed onscreen was surprising, but did it make for a suspenseful or horrific film? Not at all!
If only the failure of this film could deflate Roth's ego a bit! :fuck:
I think your absolutely right. I found part II to be superior to the first.
Oh, so that was the problem!
I don't know if I've already expressed my thoughts on this movie (it doesn't look like I've posted in this particular thread), but since this is the so-called "reaction thread", I'll say what I thought back in May.
At the Fangoria WoH this year, Roth said he hoped he made the "Empire Strikes Back" or "Road Warrior", meaning the sequel that many people feel surpasses the original. He did not. To me, he made the "Halloween 2". In other words, the sequel that explains too much, and takes away all the mystery that made the first film so good.
Rhett extols the concept of detailing the activities of the Elite Hunting Club, how they get their victims, how they bid on who does the killing, etc. Nah. Didn't care for that. What I liked about the first movie is that by the time you find out what's going on (which is pretty much the same time the onscreen characters figure it out...key concept), it's already too late. Sometimes this idea works, as it can create more suspense (if the viewer knows more than the onscreen characters and feels compelled to shout at the screen to warn them), but in this case it doesn't. Hostel works on the element of surprise more than anything.
Additionally, I didn't care for the video monitoring and computer control of the torture chambers. This is not supposed to be high-tech. Again, what made the first movie so good is the low-tech, DIY feel of the torture. As in, they find an abandoned building, use it, and are ready to move at a moment's notice.
I doubt I'll buy this one. Oh, and I don't need to see the Wiener Dog's breasts...
It lost me at the Bloodbath.
I finally got around to this one last night. It's good, not as good as the first, but pretty entertaining. It does go a wee bit further in terms of what they show you, but not much. I found the first one to be more clever and this one was almost silly at times.
EDIT: I would actually have to agree that this is indeed an "Empire Strikes Back" to the first film because it expanded the premise way beyond what you'd expect from a horror movie sequel and did it quite well. While being slightly more graphic than the first film and putting female characters in the line of fire, it managed to have enough substance that didn't lose me to my sensitivities about guy on girl torture. I give Roth credit for that. Now all that being said, this is only Empire if you think the first film is good enough to be compared to Star Wars
By the way, why did the boss guy kill that little kid?
Been trying to figure that out myself. Without listening to any of the commentaries which may or may not help, after 4 viewings I would say:
none of the kids were supposed to be beating on the merchindise. They probably have free reign to fuck with whoever they want, but picked the wrong person. It seemed like the boss was asking who's idea it was to attack her when he had them lined up. The rest of the kids sold him out, and someone had to pay to prove who was boss.
That's my take, if Roth explains in any of the commentaries please share.
What's confusing me is
The kids actually foiled that girl's escape, allowing her to be captured again. Then one of them gets punished. Maybe you're right about the condition of the merchandise though.
Netflixed and saw last night---I'm firmly in the camp of those who say it's better than the first, which I only thought was okay. The main characters are more sympathetic and interesting this time around, whereas in the first film I didn't care too much about whether the main characters survived or not.
The business with the American hunters is great, although I saw the swerve coming a mile away. But my favorite part of the film is probably the "bidding montage." I really enjoyed the humor in this movie. I'll probably eventually pick this up.
I finally saw it and think it was much better than the first. I really enjoyed this one, whereas the first was merely okay!
I watched Hostel II recently, and it won't surprise anyone to know I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought the first film was excellent too, and after a couple rewatches it only gets better. I can't fathom why horror fans wouldn't like these films.....
The second film is a hoot, and there's nothing I'd change in it at this time. I want a third film mostly because I'm greedy for good horror - which these films are a good example of. Good story, good filmmaking, good humor, some gore. Oh, and pretty girls. Damn straight - excellent flick.
Nice to see another avid fan of these flicks. Even with all the bad press Roth gets, he's still my boy... I love his films.
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I thought part two was fantastic compared to the first , had very low expectations and was pleasantly surprised
will watch this again , while the first one needs dusting