I wanna watch NEW YORK RIPPER

Discussion in 'Euro Horror' started by Andrew, Aug 1, 2002.

  1. Cujo108

    Cujo108 Guest

    Ah, come on Rhett. I told you this film had exploitation, remember? ;) Anyhow, I absolutely love this film and think its Fulci's second best. If you want another Fulci film that is on DVD right now, go with THE BLACK CAT. Its an excellent and VERY underrated Fulci gem, and its is more than worth seeing. Also, LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN is Fulci's third best, and is a true masterpiece. I highly recommend you get the SS DVD upon its release! I know I will.
     
  2. rhett

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    It was alright Cujo, but not one of Fulci's best IMO. I am really looking forward to that LIZARD disc though, it sounds like it is a great film.
     
  3. Andrew

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    Rhett - did this thread teach you nothing? :cry:

    Give it a month or two and check it out again, hopefully you'll have a similar reaction as the rest of us. Now I'm off to watch THE BLACK CAT, which I've had for awhile (tried watching it but gave up).

    FULCI LIVES!!! :banana:
     
  4. legnadibrom

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    poop

    raped her with his toe? couldnt she have just gotten up and stormed out of the BAR/POOL HALL/WHATEVER WHERE SHE WAS TRYING TO PICK SOME GUY UP FOR KINKY SEX? i think she went in that place looking for a screw and she found a weird one, so she succeeded,
    "the black cat" is really, really boring, i had lots of trouble getting through that one
     
  5. dwatts

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    What's all this "hype" shit? Who is hyping what? You all complaining about box-art? You all disapointed that the film isn't exactly like the box says it is? You mean "Minority report" wasn't "magnificent!" --LOL-- :eek2:

    Seriously, this is one sad thread as one after the other says, "Yeah overrated". Rated by whom? is there some central repository of rating that I'm missing out on? :rolleyes:

    Watch the damn films, don't worry about what others think - make up your own minds. Not agreeing with what someone else wrote is simply an opinion.

    Yeah - I know - my post is "Over-rated" too :D
     
  6. Andrew

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    I said overrated (granted this was 5 months ago - I'd like to think I've grown up a bit since then) based on my first viewing because it seemed that the general consensus on this board was that it was a great movie. I felt disappointed, thus I felt it was overrated. I don't know how else to explain it.

    However now that I've seen it a second time I can easily say it deserves whatever praise it gets. I could say it's underrated now just to piss you off :D . But I won't cus I don't feel it is.
     
  7. rhett

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    Sorry dwatts, but "hype" is not bullshit. One can strive to go into films without any expectations or preconceptions, but ultimately it is damn near impossible to watch a film with a clean slate. Even if you haven't read anything or heard anything about the film, the very nature of credits creates new expectations. For instance, if I went into a film I never knew about and saw Britney Spears in the titles I would immediately bring to the film my knowledge of her and what she should be like.

    It isn't about being shallow and following what other people say, it is the mere facts of existence. If you want to go back to birth, we have constantly been raised on expectations and outcomes. Waiting to be breast fed, expecting an A on a math test, or even going to a restaurant. To suddenly say that expectations are a bad thing is ignoring one of the facets of human life.

    Many times, expectations or "hype" are created external to your way of thought. I mean, how can you go into a film with the buzz of TITANIC and watch it with a fresh state of mind? You can't, sorry, it just isn't possible. Does that therefore make us bad filmgoers? Hell no, it makes us human beings.

    I go into films with an open mind, but I can't help but carry expectations based on what I have heard from others. Even without reading anything by anyone, there is an immediate expectation that comes from watching a Fulci film. You expect gore, you expect craftsmanship, and you expect a degree of sleaze. Then after that, the "hype" for a film like NYR on message forums or on online reviews only further aids to create a different perception of what the film will be like.

    What you've proposed dwatts is a nice little idea, but the reality is that such a goal is impossible. We as humans are constantly changing our perceptions of the world we live in by the input we get from others, so to simply ignore that in the context of watching a film is not possible. Everyone uses hype, whether it be to screen their next DVD purchase or to choose what film to take a girlfriend too. To deny preconceptions is to deny humanity.

    Also, I believe Andy saying the film was overrated IS his making up his own mind. He watched NYR, gauged his expectations and came to the conclusion that he was let down.
     
  8. dwatts

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    --LOL-- Wow, that's quite a bit of psychobabble. Since birth? This is horrordvds - not a freaking science class. As a baby we don't have a critical mind - as an adult we do.... Oh forget it, the entire idea that this is somehow related to childbirth is just too laughable. :lol: :sperm:

    The way I see it - it's all in the critical ability of the viewer. There is some point in life where you realize that commercials exist only to persuade you to part with money. People will say ANYTHING to get that cash from your pocket. The reality of these things is VERY different. Your recognize it - accept it. If you're gonna survive and not simply be a slave to the media, you better figure a way to cut through it. Most critics - and therefore criticial writing - is crap. Expectations are better driven not by what they write (which appears to be what you're proposing) but by enjoying something yourself (or not, as the case may be.) If you want to get into it, this idea explains why we choose certain friends, partners etc - we'll a lot like them, and enjoy a core of lifes goals and entertainments. The alternative is to be led by the nose, following box art to the edge of the cliff. EXAMPLE: The banned videop nasty list of films - there is some tame shit on that, and the list was driven by mostly political aims, not by the contect of the actual films (those banning them hardly ever even saw them!) Heck - this is still going on - Cronenbergs Crash was banned in parts of the UK! Is it that bad? Nah - not really.

    As to these films being gory or sadistic - it's a moving line that goes up and down as our palce in society changes. Parents will watch a porn flick, but hide it from their kids. What was considered a gorefest in the 70's is so lamo rerun today.

    "Hype" should be easy to identify, and the smarter among us can set it aside and make up our own minds while viewing a film. There are a few films that are universally panned, but I just love. I watched - I enjoyed. Very very simple.

    As for members of this board - they are representative of no-one, really. There are films mentioned on this board, and that seem to be held in high-regard, but I just think are pretty damn bad. I don't think anyone is hyping it - or that the filmis "over-rated" - it's just a difference of opinion. if yo read someones comment on here - and consider it hype or that is somehow "over rates" a film, then your'e reading FAR too much into the words.

    What I was laughing at was the number of times in this thread someone said, "this is over-rated" or "that is over-rated" - I mean, it's hilarious. Whom are they talking about? Other board members? Mainstream press? Their mothers? C'mon, lighten up on the cheap analysis and there is a good laugh to be had here. :lol:

    One of the nice things about a board such as this is that it is not a critique site - it's just a bunch of people who enjoy horror films. They say they like one, and not another. And that's cool. But they're not hyping it - they're not "rating" it. They just like it.

    Bottom line - if your gauge is the critics, box-art and your parents, then you'll ALWAYS be let down. Exorcist anyone?

    ps: Just thought I would add - the trick is figuring out WHOM you trust (in this genre, unlikely to be the big name mainstream, critical press). If someone is truly "over rating" flms - then you're reading the wrong shit.
     
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  9. Andrew

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    You're missing the point. The amount I like a movie is not affected by what other people say. Take BLAIR WITCH for example. A lot of people LOVED it, but a lot of people HATED it as well. I watched it and liked it alright. People's opinions did not affect the amount that I liked the movie. Saying NYR was overrated was simply my way of saying that I believe that many people make it out to be beter than it actually is. It doesn't mean I didn't like the movie, because I did, I just feel as though it's unjustly praised sometimes. Now what's wrong with that?
     
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    I really need to start ordering online, I can't find this anywhere.
     
  11. X-human

    X-human I ate my keys

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    I watched this just the other day, and it's certainly one of my favorites, Zombi being the best. The thing I liked most about it was the fact that it didn't hold back on anything, and there were a lot of good twists and turns through out.

    The Beyond is perhaps my least favorite, though I agree it has great cinematography, I didn't think any of the ideas were developed enough in the script. City of the Living Dead had much better ideas through out the story, while Beyond seemed to get too easily side tracked.
     
  12. dwatts

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    Nothing wrong with that. I just thought this thread was hysterical. The number of posts saying - "It's over-rated" just cracked me up. Maybe it was the wine?
     
  13. rxfiend

    rxfiend Joe Six-Pack

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    i got mine at a cheap price @ half.com
     
  14. Coverdale

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    I like NYR, but the big letdown for me was that it only seems to be available these days as a 2-fer with Manhattan Baby. And MB sucks!
    What AB should have done is package NYR with Duckling since they're both gialli. Wouldn't THAT be a good 2-disc set?
    Then package City of the Living Dead with Zombie (since, hey, they're both about zombies) and leave out MB altogether! :glasses:
     
  15. wizzer

    wizzer get outta here ewe

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    just watched new york ripper last night. i was in the mood for something bloody and i read a decent review on imdb so i gave it a whirl. i thought it was fitting for what i wanted. nice and bloody. there was quite a bit of sex and nudity and i saw the foot/toe scene out of the corner of my eye because at this point i was having sex (this usually happens when i see porn and it's one of the reasons i don't really like excessive nudity in movies) but i was back with the movie in a matter of minutes :p to see the rest. i really like the gore in the fulci movies i've seen so far so i'd say the death scenes really delivered this time. i'm gonna maybe pop in some more fulci later. i've tried to watch the beyond 2 or 3 times and just can't get into it.
     
  16. zombi3

    zombi3 Pure Evil

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    What a coincidence, I too watched NY Ripper last night, as well as Zombi 2 and The Beyond. I guess I had me a little Fulci-fest.:D The Beyond is probably my favorite though - I never get tired of watching it. :evil:
     
  17. Crystal Plumage

    Crystal Plumage Dig me..but don't bury me

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    New York Ripper is easily one of my favorite Fulci's.I have two versions of it:the AB and the Japan Shock version.The Japan Shock version shows more info and is better quality (though non-Anamorphic) and has better extras BUT misses a couple of scenes:fire:.
    I usually skip the "sex" scenes though,they bore me.
    I really loved the razorblade through the eye [​IMG]!
     
  18. Morg

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    I like New York Ripper, but the duck thing always throws me off. Just something cheesy about this dude going, "Quack, quack, quack". Anyone else have a problem with that?

    (By the way I didn't search this whole thread.)
     
  19. Tawny

    Tawny You guys got sour balls?

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    It made me think that Fulci must be a fan of Donald Duck. I think that "Don't Torture A Duckling" had an alternate title of "Don't Torture Donald Duck."
     
  20. betterdan

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    The New York Ripper turned you on? :eek1: :fucked:
     

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