Ichi the Killer R3 - Cut version?

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  1. Azathoth

    Azathoth Member

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    About 5 minutes after I hit the order button, I get an email from a friend saying the R3 version of Ichi the Killer is the cut version. To quote him:

    > As for Ichi the killer , as far as i know , the hong
    > kong region 3 dvd is cut. It is a truly bizarre sick
    > movie with really over the top violence. I have a
    > bootleg vcd taken from hong kong cinema and a lot of
    > the stuffs were cut.

    Can anyone confirm if this is true?
     
  2. Bods

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    Ichi was cut in HK by about 13 minutes. The upcoming Japanese DVD will be uncut, but have no subtitles.
     
  3. dlundh

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    Everyone says it´s cut. I´m getting it either way since the Japanese disc is not an option without subs.

    Hopefully a better/more complete version of the movie will be released in the future. It is a great over-the-top gorefest with some truly startling scenes of mayhem which beloings in any horrorfans collection imo.
     
  4. Azathoth

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    Just got this R3 DVD in today, and although I've never seen the uncut version, the cuts were extremely obvious.

    Overall a good movie, but not as great as I expected. Maybe if I get to see the uncut version my opinion will change.
     
  5. dlundh

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    Be adviced: the ucut Ichi is really hardcore stuff and will most certainly not be to everyones liking.

    The torture scene is really painful to watch in uncut form. :cool:
     
  6. DVD Connoisseur

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    Blast! Thanks for the heads up, I was just...

    ...about to order this title.

    What are the chances of a US company releasing the full, uncut Ichi with English subtitles? Given the growing number of companies releasing Asian movies (Unearthed Films being the latest), I feel that an uncut subtitled version may not be too far off.
     
  7. Disco Stu

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    I saw the uncut Ichi in at Lincoln Center earlier this year and it would not bode well to being cut. It is easily the most violent movie I've seen, you cringe at almost every scene, even if you're not taking it seriously. The uncut version was about 2 hr 10 minutes, so that will be the way to tell. I was also about to order the R3, $7 seemed too good to be true, but thankfully I read this post.
     
  8. Bods

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    Re: Blast! Thanks for the heads up, I was just...

    Media Blasters have apparently picked up Ichi for theatrical distribution in the US. Even though they aren't known for putting a lot of effort into their Tokyo Shock discs, if they wind up putting it on DVD it *should* be uncut if previous releases are anything to go by.

    I loved the movie, though I really didn't find it that violent (only have the hacked HK version to go by). Can't wait to see the uncut version (only a few more days now til the Japanese DVD gets released...)
     
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    Cheers, Bods.

    This Media Blasters' version will be the one, hopefully, to deliver the goods. Certainly HK Flix are indicating that the Media Blasters release will be a more definitive version. Here's the link to their R3 Ichi the Killer DVD "advert":

    http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.2550/qx/details.htm

    I admire HK Flix's honesty as this will cost them sales in the short term. This is one retailer who treats their customers with respect.

    Fingers crossed that Media Blasters' release lives up to expectations......
     
  10. Bods

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    Re: Cheers, Bods.

    That's good of them to mention that, they're the only retailer I've seen to do so, although the comments they make abut the film are somewhat questionable...

    "Five stars for shock/gore/gross-out/offensiveness. Zero stars because it's so infuriatingly retarded. Highly recommended if you're just looking for something offensive, not recommended if you have a brain".
     
  11. poorlogic

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    Zero stars is a joke, this film is pretty amazing. You can tell it's been heavly cut, but I found the storyline to be interesting and the ending will leave you wondering what the hell you just watched. A great film, with many new ideas I haven't seen before.
     
  12. Disco Stu

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    Just saw this on Ebay, and I emailed the seller. He says his version is uncut (probably not anamorphic) and R1, although he has a rating of 1 at the moment. I asked him why he's using the R3 box (the cut version) to show off his item, and he said that the cover would be very similar, so he figured he might as well use it. Here is the auction, I don't know how much to trust him.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1557383602
     
  13. aoiookami

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    I'm holding out for the R1 release of this title, I read on gorezone.net a few weeks ago that it will be uncut
     
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  14. Azathoth

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    I've heard there's 2 versions of this floating around.

    One is a uncut subtitled screener, possibly VCD transferred. The other is some sort of composite print of the R3 w/subs and the cut parts from the R2 disk (no subs included on those parts).

    This thing has to be one of those, being that its an R0 disk.
     
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  15. LJMurder

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    anything that is uncut now and with subs is definitely a bootleg. the HK release is missing about 15 minutes of footage. it's not expensive though so if you really need to see it then the get the R3 version and just get the Media Blasters release later. Media blasters isn't especially known for their quality releases though.
     
  16. pappy

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    The uncut version on ebay is indeed uncut it's a bootleg of course but a very nice print the 15 extr min has no audio
     
  17. indiephantom

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    I've seen the uncut version at a film fest and it's awesome. I am disappointed owner of the cut version, so this is good news.:)
     
  18. Azathoth

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    I've got an uncut VCD, with subs, due in this week. I'll post comments on it here when it arrives.
     
  19. DavidHess

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    Probably the best way to watch Ichi right now would be to get the Pioneer region 2 SE. It's uncut, and even though it doesn't have english subtitles you can find a RAR file of subtitles that work with this dvd over on the forums on http://www.asiandvdguide.com. I guess not too many people have been using this subtitle file, but it DOES work.

    I wouldn't necessarily say the uncut version makes the film that much better (it's already EXCELLENT!) but it is nice to see all the effects in their complete state, and there's one incredible scene where the disgraced cop (Sabu) picks Ichi off the street and gets him something to eat. The scene is interwoven with the cop's own backstory of how he got into the Yakuza, and it's edited in the same bizarre, nervous style as the end of Audition.

    I'm just about finished with a review of the Region 2 DVD which I intend to post shortly.
     
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  20. maybrick

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    Azathoth, the scan that the person selling the disc chose to use is the exact version I have and it's the cut version. The seller either doesn't know it's uncut or is intentionally lying to you.
     

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