Jigsaw (Saw 8)

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  1. MisterTwister

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    And Spider-Man 3 has 63%......what's your point Ricky Retardo?

    Considering some of the garbage you (and hell I) love I find it fucking hysterical you're pulling the Rotten Tomato card.

    Extremely rich and shows how empty headed you truly are.
     
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  2. MisterTwister

    MisterTwister The Schlock King

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    I NEED to get that.
     
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    Not every post on this board is about you.


    So, you think criticism of film itself isn't valid because you don't know any critics?
     
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    I haven't found any reviewers that resonated with me the way they (especially Ebert) did. Even when I disagreed with their assessments, I usually appreciated their criticisms. Most snippets from "reviews" I see in TV spots are from Twitter users. I couldn't care less about their opinions, no.
     
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    "Not every post on this board is about you"

    Jesus pete even your attempts at insults are lame. My 6 year old nephew has better burns than that.

    but considering you're only 10 years old I'll give you some slack...for now.
     
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    You honestly think that's an adequate response to me saying this:
    I could see where I'd "have it coming" in other threads. But... I fail to see the connection here.


    Look: I posted the Rotten Tomatoes' score here simply because it was shocking to see that so many critics had the guts to go against the grain.

    When Saw came out, the internet was trying to turn it into the "new" Blair Witch Project and manufacture more gimmicky underground praise over the film's tech'y flash and trendy rip-off hybrid plot joining Se7en with The Silence of the Lambs without a 10th of either film's brains.

    Se7en
    was a fucking brilliant cautionary tale about the ills of apathy, lack of empathy, societal decay, callous urbanization/industrialization and the dangers of the media's fascination with killers, white America's demagoguery of criminals, etc. And Silence totally refuted our belief in heroism, constantly putting Clarice the trainee detective in situation after situation that challenged her size, her physicality, her resourcefulness, and her ability to work a system rigged against her due to outdated gender roles and sexism. To say nothing of the subversiveness of Hannibal's character and his using Clarice to... oh yeah: fight back / take revenge against an abusive, corrupt tyrant (Chilton) in the Baltimore correctional system.

    Compared to these masterworks, what does Saw bring to the table? A guy gets terminal cancer and decides this gives him the right to judge other people and kill them while never admitting he's actually a cheap liar and a cowardly murderer who is such a compassionless fucksmear that at one point he kills a pregnant nurse whose job is to save lives all day. Condemning innocent people, like he used to be, to death because he doesn't care, because: Cancer. Magical excuse for him not taking responsibility for anything he does. The Cancer Made Me Do It...

    Holy hell, that is some buuuuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllllllllllllllllsssshit. The traps are bullshit. The tapes he makes are bullshit. Every word written for his character, about his character, that comes out of his character's mouth is bullshit.
     
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    You sir will forever have my respect from now on.
     
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    Missing from this picture: a single sliver of context. That picture and everything it symbolizes has not a solitary thing to do with your idiotic pot-kettle pic or my opinion on Saw. At all.
     
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    So you didn't like it then. :p
     
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    See- I knew you would understand. (Though, I was hoping you'd try to defend Saw in some way "against" Se7en and The Silence of the Lambs, knowing James Wan was such a young filmmaker at the time at it was the thing to just cut and paste formula from other films and without these 2, Saw wouldn't exist.)

    But, there was a reason I didn't like it. The thing no one ever gives me credit for. No amount of bullshit memes and pics from HatchetWhatever will ever derail that fact. I had a point. I didn't just fart out some words. I had a point, it was valid, and it has merit. If you're going to make a horror film about a subject as serious as Saw does, you have to think when you're writing it. Saw is profoundly insulting to its audience. And, I also mentioned why Se7en and The Silence of the Lambs are great films. So... that's 2 films I talked up. So there's no way someone like Watas can swoop in and say I'm being negative. I'm not. I'm saying Se7en and Silence are great. This is a 2/3rd's positive message.

    Until the sequels are factored in at least.
     
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    To be fair, the criticisms you mentioned are all plot points introduced in the sequels. The original film is vastly superior to its sequels, but all told they all do tell and entertaining story imo. No one has ever defended the Saw films and they certainly don't belong in the same sentence as Silence of the Lambs or Se7en. That said, the one thing the Saw films have that those don't...a memorable soundtrack theme.

     
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    Honestly I prefer Saw III and VI to the original.
     
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    He crawls out from the broken glass of the car crash in the original film, right? I'm 90% sure that was the original film. Plus, that's why Cary Elwes' character was "chosen" for the stupid "game" anyway. Because he would eventually deduce that the killer was a patient of the same clinic he worked at, something to that effect.
     
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    Honestly, I prefer all of them to the original. Once they laid the groundwork (and the story line went totally bonkers), I was all-in. Plus, I can't stand Cary Elwes.
     
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