Joe Dante's THE HOWLING (1981) from Shout Factory 6/18

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  1. maybrick

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    "Disgrace". :rolleyes:

    Well, in that case you better wait until some other studio gets it. Maybe. Sometime next decade. If you're lucky.

    It's one thing to be critical of a release (most catalog titles can be improved upon in some manner), but once you sound angry and hyperbolic it's hard to take you seriously. I heard similar things about HORROR EXPRESS, too, and about the only way you can see the flaws is when you practically rest your nose on the screen. You want bad? Try watching the original dvd release of EATING RAOUL sometime. Maybe then you'd stop overusing words like "disgrace" when it is hardly warranted.
     
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    Based on the comparison shots, it looks like the blu ray picture is "squished" vertically. Definitely looks clear/sharp, but the distorted picture possibly caused by bad authoring is disappointing.
     
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    really? I looked for it in those screenshots, but still didn't see it.
     
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    My mistake, I think you are right. I took a closer look and realize these shots are not taken from of the exact same frame, so it looked slightly different.

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    Seen it today and I thought it had a horrible video transfer done to it. But the film,audio & extras were all great but that Video was really bad Scream Factory's worst.
     
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    Again, the transfer was made by Studio Canal, not Scream.
     
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    Why didn't Scream do it?
    Why go to StudioCanal when they have a horrible record?
     
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    Because when you have a specific film that you want to release in mind, you have to deal with the people you have to deal with. It isn't as if Scream Factory can go shop around to Disney or whoever for a better copy of The Howling. They also wouldn't be releasing so many great movies so quickly if they had to do all of the remastering themselves. You think that the process is cheap? There was already a HD transfer of the movie out there and that's what they were given to use. It's disappointing, but it also should have been expected. In the end, having The Howling like this is better than not having The Howling at all. The only thing that would change my opinion is if it was completely unwatchable, which this isn't.
     
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    Well Scream remastered Halloween II from the old Blu-ray.
     
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    One was Universal, the other was MGM. Different companies have different requirements and ways of doing things. If Scream Factory wants to license a movie then they have to take what they can get or forget about it.
     
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    Okay
     
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    I noticed a slight greenish tint to some scenes but I think it was a result of the lighting in some of the settings, the phone booth at the beginning, for instance, and inside the porn shop. The rest of the film looked a little too bright in spots but, overall it was a big leap up from the DVD (which never looked bad to begin with). I think this is as definitive as it will get.
     
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    I was going to purchase the Blu-Ray, but I wonder if I should hold onto my DVD copy, and just purchase only Lifeforce out of the two that was released Tuesday from Scream Factory. Has anyone purchased Lifeforce yet, and had a chance to watch the Blu-Ray yet. I have several of the Blu-Rays from Scream Factory that have been released recently, and all of them have been excellent, and the extras have been great too. I'm going to purchase The Fog next month, and can't wait.
     
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    As far as I can see the vast majority of reviews have been positive. There has only been a handful of nitpickers out there. Everybody other than those few have said that this blu ray is a step up from the MGM dvd. If you're as big of a fan of the movie as I am I don't know why you'd ever skip it. Who are these turkeys? They're nobody to me. :)
     
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    This is pointed at Zollman.

    Shout/Scream Factory is all about quality just look at the Halloween III & From Beyond disc. I gotta agree I was disappointed with the quality of the Video. See it's our need as horror fans to buy all of their stuff because:

    They provide you with:
    Excellent packaging
    Superb video(Howling not in this catogorey)
    Brand new and old content
    Whatever they can put on the disc the relates to the film
    Resceecpt's films that deserve it

    I had cancel quite a few pre-orders of Scream's stuff to afford the FT13TH boxset.

    But compaired to the Howling trilogy set this Blu-ray is like Transfromers 2
     
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    Don´t know what´s point in comparing that... Everyone assumed first hand that the blu trilogy was going to horrible in the PD.
     
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    Heres why it's a disgrace.

    -Same transfer as Studiocanal's blu ray without any attempt to correct the blacks or color.
    -The 2.0 mix is mistakenly just a stereo downmix of the 5.1 track, the Studiocanal disc actually had the original mono track as 2.0 DTS HD Master Audio.
    A simple QC of the disc's audio tracks would have revealed this error.

    Packaging and slipcovers mean nothing.
     
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    The Howling

    You mean nothing.
     
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    Just watch
    Scream Factory's Halloween III Blu-ray and compaired it with their Howling Blu-ray and you'll be disappointed
     
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    The "you only like it because it has a slipcover" argument doesn't work here. On the Scream Factory thread there are pages of people ripping into the new art on all the Scream releases. You can go get mad at the packaging obsessed over at Blu-ray.com if you want to try to get a rise out of people by saying artwork and slips mean nothing.
    You want to know why I think The Howling is the best genre release on Blu-ray thus far this year? All of the DVD bonus materials are ported over, even an easter egg interview with Dick Miller (you'd be surprised at how often existing material doesn't get ported over), substantial new material is included (new commentary and 4 new featurettes), and footage that hasn't seen the light of day since Laserdisc is dug up for fans to enjoy (a featurette, extended deleted scenes, and deleted scenes commentary). That is what is important to me when it comes to a re-release. Looking and sounding better than my old DVD (which this does, even if its not the greatest transfer ever) and having the original poster art on the reverse side of the cool new artwork (I actually like a lot of Scream's commissioned artwork) is just gravy.
    That's why people love Scream Factory, you can rip into them all you want (which I don't understand at all, the best company for catalog horror since early Anchor Bay and people feel the need to try to tear them apart?), but they give the fans a reason to upgrade, from fantastic new bonus features to simple things such as choice of artwork and retaining existing material as much as possible.
     
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