Kino Lorber Studio Classics

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    ^ I'm glad they at least tried. That's more than a lot of companies can say.

    I'll be picking it up for the hi-def upgrade. That alone will make it an improvement over the barebones DVD (which also doesn't have the TV scenes). Plus, I already sold my DVD shortly after this was announced, so no going back now...
     
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    Any word on a release date for Sugar Hill?
     
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    I do wonder what exactly that means when they can't get a cut for legal reasons? I don't mean to suggest that they aren't correct - BUT we've seen TV cuts, workprint-type cuts (Halloween 6), re-assembled "Director's cuts" (Nightbreed).

    I started off in the business working in the international distribution area of a film/tv company so I know the contracts (which are often in mammoth files) can be dense and things can be very specific about what can be done editing-wise (and who can allow that to happen), what can be shown where, what is allowed to be on video - all that. Internationally it was even more dense. But it seems like things can be sorted if you dig far enough?

    I don't need an extended cut of Needful Things, just more curious about the licensing side of things - the process, and what prevents alternate cuts from making an appearance (other than finances).
     
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    I don't know much about the behind the scenes and contracts but it does strike me as odd when companies said things like "we tried". To me it makes me think they should have held the title a little longer till they could work out whatever needed to be done.
    If it is a money thing they should just say that. If people want it bad enough they could do a kickstarter and raise the funds.
     
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    From what I could gather elsewhere, and this could be entirely rumor / speculation, but just throwing it out there:

    The theatrical movie is with MGM, which is who Kino licensed it from.
    Warner Brothers (TNT / TBS) owns the rights to the TV scenes.
    And Warner Brothers are notorious sticklers when it comes to licensing out material.
     
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    That's always annoyed me that other studios can own footage to films they no longer own.
     
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    That might make some sense. Or that WB may not "own" the TV scenes, but they may have the TV rights (and accompanying extra footage) licensed from MGM exclusively, and that MGM can't license that particular cut because another entity already has it licensed?

    Seems possible.

    I know when I was sending elements out, there were ALL kinds of stuff in the contracts that needed to be delivered for each territory (scripts, elements in broadcast standards that matched that part of the world, press kits, etc.). Different cuts, all of that. I would have to pull contracts for films to see if we could do stuff with them. This is late 90s. The one really great benefit was that I had keys to the library - I had just moved to LA and could borrow movies every night of the week and never run of stuff to watch.
     
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    At the time of assembling of the TV version it may have been Warner/TNT/TBS that footed the bill to re-edit the film along with any additional soundtrack they may have had to use. And the contract may have stipulated either sole distribution of that edit or simply right to refuse licensing.

    Which, if it were the case or something similar, makes sense. Warner put this together with their money so their TV stations have something unique, but then MGM turns around and re-released it on home video, other TV stations or even theatrical re-release that'd piss Warner off quite rightly.

    The fact that this was decades ago doesn't really change anything. And Warner is well known for not sub-licensing.
     
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    GOG is such an underrated gem. I watched it on Netflix knowing nothing about it and it just delivers on so many levels. Fun flick.
     
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    An Eye for An Eye
    F/X
    Malice
    Needful Things
    Short Eyes

    All just went up for pre order on Amazon. All $29.95
     
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    a lot of the older entries in the studio classics line (avenging force, jennifer, avalanche, juggernaut, etc) are available for around 50% off on amazon.ca at the moment. those that are discounted by that much seem to cost in the realm of $13.99, which is a pretty decent price. i wish i'd held off on avenging force last month - could have save $6.
     

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