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Discussion in 'Reader Polls' started by CrazyFatEthel, Oct 5, 2009.
Good performer, but hate her music!
00:50. That's so fucking hot.
Her body is fucking amazing. I'd poke her face. Poke her somewhere else too.
She's kinda fun to watch in a "performance art" sort of way.I've heard better vocalists.Still,she seemed good natured on SNL and that counts for something in my book.
I must say she has some catchy tunes and seems smarter/ self-aware than most pop stars, and I'm one of those metalheads btw. Gonna go with love her cause I don't hate her.
She'll be forgotten about in a month or so.
But... will we stop listening to those songs of hers? I can't even get the stuff from Britney's last 2 albums out of my head.
Maybe in the eyes of some, but I'd still rather listen to their music than just about any other form of metal.
Dangerfield is dead, so I'm gathering that your suggestion is impossible. Unless you're the genius who's figured out how to raise the dead and make them good enough to move and talk.
And, if you couldn't tell already... not a big fan of metal. So, any opinions you may have of who is and isn't a better hard rock band are going to be wasted on me. And, I may be setting myself up here- but it sounds like you haven't listened to very much of the Smashing Pumpkins. And if you have, yet as a metalhead (I'm assuming you're a fan of this genre) you think they're not as hard as bands you prefer, I could care less. They have many hard rock songs and they go from hard to other levels back and forth with more skill than most bands who only aim to make your ears bleed. Or your brain.
Most of the people insulting her are not paying attention to her lyrics. So, I still have a point there. Just because you're telling me you're better than they are - doesn't change anything. Your comment about porn however, shows me that you're not better than the others. You may think you're criticizing male artists the same way, but "retard" and "slut" are not the same thing. So, if I'm really wrong about my observations of sexism- you're not doing a damn thing to prove it.
And I'm not a feminist. Just someone smart enough to criticize a musician on the basis of their talent and not their looks. And even if I'm the king of sweeping generalization, it doesn't take more than a general reaction to gauge the listenability of metal music. As for Gaga, she's into pop. It's a very easy game to play, so I don't pretend these artists show more talent than rockers by just singing and dancing and parading their fashion sense and money. I'll take a bad song to task everytime. I never said "LoveGame" and "Poker Face" were great. But I'll defend "Just Dance" and "Paparazzi" to the end. Music is music - so I don't care who makes it and under what circumstances it's made.
You think, a month or so? Or your just exaggerating?
I would have to disagree with that. Maybe in about a couple of years she will slow down, but not in a couple of months.
She might even be nominated for a 2010 Grammy.
You know- everything in her career has taken forever to happen for her. The Fame didn't come out until '08 (after, I'm told, they spent years hyping her up), and now she can't even score a Grammy nom until next year?!
Well for 2010 it won't be for Best New Artist. Which she probably would have won.
But the album missed Grammy eligibility period in 2009. But I think that one song was nominated for a dance category in 2009. Now for 2010 the whole album can possibly get nominated. And all the categories that go with it. Pop, Song of the Year, etc...
Well, that puts me firmly in the 'love her' category
Haha. Hate her? Nah. Love her? Well...I love parts of her...
I will never understand the Black Album hate. It ain't no Master of Puppets, but it fucking trumps the shit out of ...And Justice For All. Better produced, tighter songs. Who cares if they didn't feel like shredding for 7+ minutes anymore? And it made a shit ton of money, which "classic" Metallica fans seem to get pissed about. From the ones I've talked to, they seem actually angry that people besides metalheads started liking Metallica. They wanted to broaden their horizons and create something that might attract a different audience as well. Good job to them for not letting themselves get pigeonholed. In the five years after the Black Album their music took a serious hit, but I think that album is still in the vein of classic 80's Metallica, only tighter and more polished.
I know I'm generalizing, but I think metal fans just automatically start to hate a band if their music isn't 10 minute opuses or catered specifically for them anymore. Artists grow, expand, and change.
:lol: That's what the rest of us have had to look at for as long as we've known about her. That said, for the people here who'd never heard of her... I do think it's easy to have missed her. Someone (I think) already mentioned Mtv and Vh1 - if you never watch them...and I don't. And then there's the radio. I never listen to the radio. The last time I even did, by coincidence, "Gold Digger" and "Luxurious" were hits.
The first time I heard of her was on YouTube. 5AwesomeGays' Tyler Oakley has a real thing for her. So I checked out "Poker Face" and turned it off not even 0:50 into it. (And that, Crikan, is why I didn't vote for "Love Her" and why I don't take criticism of her personally).
What a coincidence - I just ordered 3 of her CD's yesterday evening. And, yes, her and Moloko are amazing. Almost all of their CD's are out of print now, but Do You Like My Tight Sweater? is still out there. My personal favorite.
Holy shit!!! I f*cking love Tyler Oakley. Haha
I do too. Jonny McGovern has pretended to and tried to be, but Tyler is the ultimate gay-nerd.
Careful, he doesn't like that term. XD
Does he? I've stopped watching videos on his personal channel ever since he made his MySpace page private.
You stalker you. Hehe,
At any rate, uh...what was the topic?...
Oh yeah. Gaga. Good shit.
If only evil.
Yeah, I was just re-listening to "Boys Boys Boys" because I heard someone talking it up (here?). "I Like it Rough" and "Summerboy" are quite incredible by my standards of replay. I originally didn't like them. All good examples of how her producers keep repeating her choruses, which still gets to me a little.
After seeing that SNL performance (not "Paparazzi," with the red stage and costumes - that was abysmal), I have to say she blew me away. In a way that "Just Dance" never did - if she were to put out an album even more instrumentally basic than Aguilera's Back to Basics, that Tisch school training would garner her some attention as a legitimate artist.
Not to say I don't love just turning up the bass and letting "Starstruck" bop my speakers around like balloons filled with tiny cheetahs.
Number 1: Never called her a slut, perhaps you are engaging in generalizations about porn stars and those who are open about their sexuality. The catholic church is dead and people generally enjoy sex and the many ways in which it can be expressed. I'd rather watch a porn star being sexual in a porn movie than some pop starlet who appeals to 12-16 year old girls shoving her ass in a camera and talking about riding a disco stick.
Number 2: Never said I was better than anyone, you're the one who went apeshit and started pointing fingers at the members who criticized this 'artist' and got all bitchy.
Number 3:Your sexism comment is bullshit, of course I would'nt call Corgan a slut, he's just about the most asexual artist out there. Do I think that plenty of male artists got by on sexuality and looks? Sure, if Bon Jovi was an ugly zit prone fat kid probably never would've made it, ditto all those awful boy bands and trendy crap like Milli Vanilli and Rico Suave which are void of talent just like Lady Gaga.