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  1. MisterTwister

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    Just finished it. Extremely pleased with the picture quality and the film is as much fun as ever. Also watched the 57 minute documentary which is filled with lots of info and great interviews.

    Listening to the commentary this weekend and will comment when I do.

    This fan is happy.
     
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    If I was deep into the Blu-Ray revolution, I would not spend this much money on Popcorn. But, I'll bet money that it would be quite an experience. If you had a big enough screen and a powerful enough sound system and speakers throughout the room and Synapse's work on the audio filled your room with the movie. This would be exactly the kind of movie where being-there would be amazing. Because, I believe I heard this was filmed in Jamaica. Well... it feels like it was filmed in Jamaica. (The kind that appeals / would appeal to tourists.) Like: Disney/Epcot 80's-Horror Jamaica. And Dee Wallace's character owns a really posh-looking house and the exteriors of it and the college make you want to be there. I was always a fan of the film's exterior / establishing shots of locations.

    So... at the right price, and if I had all the trappings to make Blu-Ray really work: I would say this is the kind of film worth the trouble to upgrade. Problem is that I've never been much on an expert on systems and how to set-up a really good, enveloping sound system and where to get the right TV, etc.

    Of course, if everything about the Blu-Popcorn experience wasn't like a Disney fantasy come-to-life (for example- if I could see all the outlines of the makeup and masks / appliances and wires and fake knives and fake blood, etc), I would make sure to remark about that. In detail.
     
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    The hour-long documentary and audio commentary are both great, very in-depth. I finally finished them yesterday. I honestly didn't ever realize before that director (or co-director depending on who you ask) Mark Herrier was the actor from Porky's.

    You don't need a super-duper system in order to enjoy this Blu-ray. The 7.1 mix sounds good, but it's certainly not like effects were coming from the rear channels all that often, and I didn't notice too much LFE activity either.

    Seriously... just buy an HDTV and Blu-ray player, and you'll never look back. They are cheap enough now that you can build a very good system at a low price. For good sound, just buy a decent soundbar. There wouldn't be that much to set-up really, unless you want to calibrate the A/V accurately.
     
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    I know you won't hassle me on this issue, so I will level with you: I cannot afford to replace my entire DVD collection. I have over 200-250 horror discs that I consider something like essential and that would take forever to save up for. It took me over 15 years to buy all these discs. If I was going Blu, I would need them all replaced right away. (And, no I don't see the point of watching DVD on Blu unless the player makes all DVD look like Blu.) Although I own over 450 total horror titles and frankly: I would probably want all of them replaced. That's just not feasible.

    Plus, as I've stated in previous threads, I'm not happy with what Shout! Factory have done with Halloween II (the audio) and The Howling, I doubt I'll be liking what Carrie looks like now, I don't like Paramount's cutting off so much of Friday the 13th for the uncut version, I actually prefer the look of An American Werewolf in London on Universal's older 2001 Collector's Edition DVD to the Full Moon Edition 2009(?) upgrade (it's moodier), I like the fact that if I watch Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood - the Deluxe Edition - on DVD with the day scenes brightened up that I can switch to the 2002 transfer with darker, moodier looking skies without a "definition" change or using a different machine. I can also do the same between Kino and Anchor Bay's DVD's of Mario Bava's Bay of Blood.

    The problem with me and transfers is that - as Matt89 has correctly stated - there seems to be a minty bluish green tint over films of the 70's and 80's that they added like a filter to make skin colors not look reddish or purplish in some cases. But it makes people look like Smurfs when they're in moody lighting. It seems the 90's changed that and in films like Showgirls, the natural look to skin colors is to push toward the red and purple. HELL, I was watching The Office the other day and I noticed the same thing. But in the 70's and 80's, the older transfers I guess pushed toward the red skin tones because that's what more modern films look like. Being honest, after having compared several films side-by-side, I think the older DVD transfers look better with almost every color. Except blues and, ironically, purples. And, occasionally, fire looks better too. But it looks brighter. More golden. So much is sacrificed in these prints, including the moodier look to day scenes that I love SO MUCH in my horror.

    If we were talking about going Blu for non-horror movies, I might not care as much. Unless it was stuff I grew up with like: The Never-Ending Story, Starman, Labyrinth, Ghostbusters, The Witches, Scrooged, Little Shop of Horrors, Batman, Beetlejuice, etc. But it's so important how I feel when I watch horror films. And, strangely enough, everyone may think it's a subtle effect- but I notice. Every time. When the movies are just not matching the way they used to make me feel.
     
  5. MisterTwister

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    Listened to the commentary as well and it was great. Definitely worth listening to.

    Yeah I didn't realize until recently Mark Herrier was the same guy from the Porky's franchise.
     
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    Natas ....on the warm side of the dooooooor

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    I felt the same way, sort of......but you gotta just realize you don't have to replace ALL of your favorites. Just this week alone I watched Return of the Living Dead and Evil Dead (original) on blu and the upgrade visually on those 2 flicks alone were worth the blu ray player. Although I was disappointed in the fact there are zero special features on the evil dead steelbook blu, seeing all those practical fx in HD was nothing short of breathtaking.

    If you take away what you're buying on regular dvd, hand pick blus here and there, you won't notice much a difference on your wallet, I promise.

    Tales from the Hood on blu in a couple months is justification alone, mayne. :D
     
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    DVD-fanatic-9 And the Next Morning, When the Campers Woke Up...

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    It wouldn't be possible anyway, thanks to Twilight Time and some films only being available in PAL versions, etc.

    I'm just not in a place where I want to start all over again. I could obviously buy a few classics randomly and be very happy doing that, for awhile. But before long, I would become frustrated that I don't have everything I need. With DVD, the only frustration I have to deal with are jerks telling me I'm offending the great God of Blu or something by not buying into the format (except to get the DVD's in combo packs).

    Anyway, I've always had a policy where I WOULD upgrade... if Vinegar Syndrome keeps those Troma discs coming. Seems like they've stopped. But, if they release Def by Temptation, Dead Dudes in the House, and Evil Clutch (all 3), I'll go Blu. PROMISE. I'll even take pictures of the stuff I get and where I set it up, etc.


    I read a review right here in the HD reviews section of a more feature-packed Blu of The Evil Dead. I guess it's OOP / was retired for the version you wound up with. That's pretty disappointing. Do you at least get to choose between widescreen and full frame? (I only ever watch the full frame version.) (It's the version approved by fans of Bruce Campbell's chin.)


    Well, I buy almost everything used now. Except for the Blue Underground stuff (except for the 2-disc of Fulci's Zombie) and Criterion horror (I got Slacker, The Game, and Kicking and Screaming used) and the remastered Puppet Master's and the Kino Mario Bava discs. Etc. Just the high-grade horror. Everything else I buy, down to my last $5 season sets of The Simpsons are all used at dirt cheap prices.

    The only discs I've splurged on recently were the Mario Bava's, Criterion's Vampyr and Equinox, and $15 copies of White Zombie, The House by the Cemetery, and that shitty Well Go DVD of Phantasm: Remastered. (BOTCHED is more like it. I wish I had returned it to Amazon and gotten my money back. I'll never end up watching it.)


    That's one of DVD's few anomalies: the HBO disc for Tales is fucking THE WORST. Even when that movie was on Netflix, in fullscreen, it looked like shiiiiit. It looked dusty and soft, sharpness was nowhere to be seen, it was blurry and tired, the blacks were all brown (shadows looked like wafting cigarette smoke). It was an utter disaster. Not even Popcorn's old DVD looked that bad.

    That's HBO for you. Some discs, like Gia and The Changeling, look great. Other discs, like Serial Mom (before Universal / Rogue cleaned it up) and The Hitcher look crappy.
     
  8. MisterTwister

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    Replacing all your favorites with HD versions is great. It makes it much more fun going back and watching them.

    I still buy DVD and VHS though (VHS less due to space and asshole collectors)
     
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    Except that there is this little thing called a TRANSFER. And the quality of films can CHANGE- the look and feel of a film can CHANGE due to different TRANSFERS than those you become familiar with. The mood of films are, in fact, and can be altered by brightening the picture and using certain color filters, etc. The sort of things that are done for Blu-Ray and newer DVD's.

    Too many times I've seen an upgrade of a film that DESTROYED the feeling I got watching the film when I first loved it. I have mentioned this before, I'm sorry you missed it. I mentioned it with The Howling, I mentioned it with Bava's Bay of Blood, and it's also happened with An American Werewolf in London.

    There's nothing more important to me than the mood I get from horror films of the late 70's, early 80's. Why would I give that up to gamble on a newer format, just to make you happy?
     
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    dvd-9: I'm a big believer in spending or not spending your money as one sees fit. My wife takes about $100 every few weeks and will go to the casino for a few hours. I tell her she should just burn the money and save on gas. I actually enjoy the casino but get depressed after losing about $50, or wimp out and stop after winning $50. I digress. Point is, everyone spends or not spends it as they see fit. And I'm truly cool with that. But since you posted some of your reasons for not going blu on the forum, people are going to throw in their $.02. Here is mine.

    You go with a reasonable size ~40" used HDTV and I'm guessing you can go blu for $100-$200 max. Max. If you can't afford that, you likely can't afford to be collecting movies. Again, my $.02. As someone else said, going blu doesn't render your DVD collection obsolete. That is the beauty of it. There is absolutely no reason you have to upgrade. For every transfer you complained about, there are dozens others on blu that are vastly superior to past DVD releases. But again, if you aren't crazy about the movie or are content with the DVD, you can stick with it.

    Believe me, the same thing is going to happen to blu owners someday. Something will come along that kills it, though who knows with the advent of streaming. We may be in it for the long haul with blu and 4k blu. Who knows? With laserdisc, I had to run another machine to continue enjoying my movies. At least bluray players will play all your dvds. Seems like a no brainer.

    I have already read all your reasons but honestly, I still don't get it. But hey, like I said, it's your money. Do with it as you please. If I was in your situation and truly against going to blu, I would be converting the blus to dvd, personally. I'm sure it's a lot of work if you want menus and everything, however.
     
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    Really great feedback Dave.
     
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    So, MisterTwister, now that a MODERATOR for the website is watching both of us, and you've finally accepted that someone else doesn't share your view that I should be forced to upgrade to Blu because it's what you personally prefer, YOU WILL FINALLY STOP HARASSING ME and insulting me at every single turn on this forum. Correct?

    Dave, if I ever learn how to convert a Blu movie or features to a size that will fit a recordable/home printable DVD, I will get right on that. That sounds like my alley.
     
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    finally got POPCORN steelbook ordered
     
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    One of the TV spots on this disc is a riot. I wish it were on YouTube.

    "You've just won the big game! What are you going to do?"
    "I'm going to see Popcorn!"

    Fun disc. Was it worth the cost? Probably not, but considering I paid about $13 each for Prom Night and Curtains, two discs that were worth way more than that, I figure it all balances out.
     
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    Enjoy buddy!
     
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    Do u need any horror vhs tapes I got a lot
     
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    Shoot me a list if you can :)
     
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    It is now.



    ;)
     
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