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Discussion in 'Slashers' started by Agent Z, Sep 12, 2002.
This is why I have a DVD connecting my head to my neck. Damn you Anchor Bay!
That 4th disc is overrated. I mean it's cool of Anchor Bay to include it, but was that seriously intended to be used in a movie? Good thing they abandoned it. You would think a slightly attractive girl who was willing to be in a crappy horror sequel would've been easy to come by, instead they get some fat broad with an enormous head.
Also I think they got the guy from the Troma trailers to do the voiceover on the trailer to this one.
ARGH!! Dammit to hell! I have to go out TODAY and see if my local Best Buy has anymore box sets. They had like, 10 or more of them last time I was there. *sob*
I already bought my Survival Kit at Best Buy the very first day it came out, so no rushing around for me.
I agree the 4th disc is kinda crappy, but people want to see it anyway. I doubt I'll ever watch mine again, but being a dvd dork I had to have it.
Wiseman once say, "it is better to have and not want than to want and not have"
This all smells like a scam to me... like the Survival Kit wasn't doing as well as they hoped so they invented this little scandal to drum up some business. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the second version doesn't get released at all, or if it does, it might be that version that becomes the collector's item since it may be pressed in lower quantities. How many of these things were they expecting to release and how many had they already pressed before changing the artwork? Do they really think that there are enough people in the world that care about Sleepaway Camp, never mind the sequels, to pump these things out forever? That's the thing, you have to question when Anchor Bay or any other company claims that one of their products will become a "collector's item". It's the rarity and the demand that makes something a collector's item, not because the producers expect to be.
I say all this as a non-fan of Sleepaway Camp. Never cared for the series and no amount of keen business sense on Anchor Bay's part will get be to become otherwise. I don't mean to offend anyone who likes these movies, but let's face it, they're not classics of the genre like series such as Evil Dead, Halloween, or Romero's dead films, so is a box set of Sleepaway Camp films expected to garner even a quarter of the attention those those other films would?
I can't stand the SLEEPAWAY CAMP sequels to save my own Life, but I also can't deny that the SLEEPAWAY CAMP boxset is one of this quarter's strongest sellers: Anchor Bay had to go back and press more copies than expected....and my initial shipment was 4 days late .....which was a first from AB. The SLEEPAWAY CAMP series is one of the strongest genre sellers across the board......and at one point, the boxset reached 148 on Amazon's sales' rankings....not bad for such an obscure film! The point being, even Anchor Bay wasn't ready for the demand for this boxset and the last thing AB needed was to change the package design to "drum up" some business. Also keep in mind that AB never claimed that this change in artwork would increase the collectibilty factor.....that assumption (probably dead-on btw) came from the fansites.
As a side note, everybody is discussing all the factors that might affect the increase in this boxset's future value to collectors.....how about the one feature of the boxset that might lower its value in the future: fanboy John Klyza's moderating duties on the commentaries for the sequels.......oooof!
They had 10 copies still at Best Buy Tuesday, and I didn't grab any. Probably would've, but went to the mall and found a copy each of Universal's Dracula, Son/Daughter of D, and Mummy's Hand/Tomb so I couldn't spend no more.
If anyone wants one (Survival Kit) and can't get em where you are, cover postage and a $5 finder fee (+ the $26.49 it costs with tax) and I'll hook ya up. Not sure how long they'll be there, but the arrangement looked just like it did last week. E-mail if interested,
I'm verified through paypal and prefer them, credit card orders add 1.5% to split the fees.
Well.....from www.sleepawaycampfilms.com comes this latest update in the Red Cross Vs. AB front:
Red Cross getting brutal.........
.....it's a wacky, wacky world.................
Ha! The Red Crooks are gonna pursue legal action against any site that displays the original box art... I wonder how many eBay sellers that is gonna include.
this is getting pretty ridiculous now
If that is true it's disgraceful way to waste the money that is donated to them, surely to God they have more to do with their time.
Here's a more thorough explanation for the Red Cross fiasco:
(courtesy of www.medialinenews.com)
Red Cross Invokes Logo Rights
by Joy Zaccaria
(Nov. 8, 2002) -- In August 2002 Anchor Bay Entertainment of Troy, MI released the three-DVD set of horror cult film phenomenon Sleepaway Camp and its sequels. Unbeknownst to Anchor Bay, the set’s original “red cross” packaging technically violated the Geneva Convention.
For 20,000 pieces, the design of the outer case originally sported a large red cross as the main graphic element. “Our package was intended to give the impression of being a first aid kit,” said Tom Bambard, senior brand manager of horror and sci-fi at Anchor Bay. “Then of course it had a big bloody handprint on it—like somebody at camp grabbed the first aid kit to save himself.”
The design of the package was done in-house at Anchor Bay. “We did a review of whether there were any trademarks associated with [the red cross logo] and we thought we had done a reasonable amount of due diligence in identifying any restrictions. We thought the red cross was a public domain image. That turned out not to be true,” said Bambard.
A representative of the Canadian Red Cross contacted Anchor Bay after finding the offending box in a retail store and informed the studio that the use of the red cross insignia was restricted by the Geneva Convention. Article 18 of the Geneva Convention adopted in 1950 reads: Civilian hospitals shall be marked by means of the emblem provided for in Article 38 of the Geneva Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces in the Field of August 12, 1949, but only if so authorized by the State. To avoid confusion for the wounded in a military action, Anchor Bay was politely yet sternly advised by the Red Cross to remove the logo from the DVD package. (The only company that uses it without Red Cross’ permission is Johnson and Johnson, which existed in 1906, prior to the signing of the Geneva Convention.) “We certainly took it seriously,” said Bambard. “We immediately communicated our willingness to repackage any existing product and make the necessary changes to all product going forward.”
Anchor Bay redesigned the package without the cross and instead put the words “Survival Kit” in a drippy blood font. An inner sliding case holds three DVD Alphas and a collector’s booklet.
The packages were produced by Tepel Brothers, a fellow Troy, MI firm that handles many packages for Anchor Bay. The discs were replicated at Crest National.
Roughly half of the discs were special editions exclusively for retail chain Best Buy that featured a bonus fourth disc and a slight packaging variation announcing the bonus with an extra blood splatter. “We used a matte finish on the basic package and then a high-gloss UV over the blood splatter and bloody hand print,” said Bambard. “It really looks like drying blood.” Best Buy approached Anchor Bay about the exclusive bonus fourth disc. “We knew Best Buy would do a significant volume of business to the Sleepaway Camp audience. It’s a good match. We get requests periodically by just about everybody. We try to accommodate them when we can. You don’t always have enough material. In some cases the exclusive package may have a different retail point. In this case it didn’t,” said Bambard.
The Best Buy bonus fourth disc had footage from the never finished Sleepaway Camp IV—The Survivor. “It was a project that died before it got finished,” said Bambard. “We had a bunch of the dailies and a trailer that had been edited together that had never been seen by anybody.”
Anchor Bay Entertainment
I know! It's ridiculous, surreal, and cool all at the same time....:lol: :glasses:
Oh my god, I was shot... let's run to Media Play so I can get myself a first aid kit!!!!
What's the status of this? I asked because I wandered into a store yesterday, and hidden at the back of a shelf was one of the "red cross" sets. Is it really worth picking up as a collectable?
I ask because, while I wouldn't mind getting the films, they weren't on my "NOW" list. But if the box is really collectable, I might go pick it up. It's retailing (it's new) for $36.
It's somewhat collectable if it's the original red cross box. It's even more collectable if it's the Best Buy version with the 4th bonus disc.
However...neither currently sells for more than around $25 on ebay.
got ours with the bonus fourth disc for 19 bucks.