The Irishman (2019) non-spoiler review

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  1. thing

    thing Well-Known Member

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    The Irishman feels like the fond farewell and the capper in a trilogy of gangster films based on true stories after Goodfellas (1990) & Casino (1995). All three films have starred Robert De Niro & Joe Pesci but this time a much more aged and reflective pair in a film that could be described as their Unforgiven.
This epic has a slower pace than Scorsese’s other films in the genre but no less intriguing. It touches on many famous moments from history but doesn’t over explain them. For some who do not have a good knowledge of the American history from these decades they may miss a lot of context to what was going on. I didn’t have a problem myself but it could for others.
Now to the de-aging effects, whilst I am not personally a fan, my experience went like this. The first time I saw the de-aged De Niro character I was kind of horrified. However after a time I got used to it and came to realize that the problem my brain was having was only partly the special effects but more so two other factors. Firstly, knowing what he really looked like at that age is quite different to how he appears. They may have got rid of the wrinkles but the nose grows throughout your whole life and he has the larger old man De Niro nose on the younger mans face. Secondly and more importantly is the light blue contacts he wore throughout to match the real life character he was playing, I never got used to these fully but after 20 minutes the de-aging effect was mostly a non issue. Other characters that were de-aged worked much better without additional changed like the afore mentioned eye Colour.
In the end this was a great and mature work from a master film maker nearing the end of his career that will dot nearly along side the best work of all those involved.
8.5/10
     
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    I really liked this too, especially after the total disappointment of Tarantino's latest.

    I hope there's a Blu-ray release at some point and it doesn't end up stuck in "streaming limbo". Also want Scorsese's "Netflix exclusive" Bob Dylan Rolling Thunder documentary on Blu-ray but no hint of a physical release of that yet either.

    As you said, the fact that the "young" De Niro didn't actually look like we know he looked was a little strange, but overall the CGI stuff was pretty good. The only point I thought it looked really poor was when De Niro's "young" character was kicking the guy on the ground and it clearly looked like the movements of an 80 year old arthritic pensioner! Luckily the majority of the movie was shot in low light and that helped the CGI ageing stuff a lot, it was in some of the lighter, outdoor scenes I thought it looked a bit like over-done DNR at times.

    Loved the movie though, even at well over 3 hours I felt it only started to drag a little in the closing act.
     
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    Oh yes I forgot about that kicking scene, a prime example
     
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    Natas Is it October yet?

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    This was like watching Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards......it was just weird.

    I did enjoy The Irishman for the most part. It was a bummer to see DeNiro look so bad. Pacino looked a lot better. I think I enjoyed his performance as Hoffa the best.

    It also did not feel like a Scorsese flick. It was lacking some good music and style. And obviously that run time was fucking absurd.

    You mentioned the scene where DeNiro is kicking that guy on the ground. He looked like a geriatric robot, stiff as a fucking board. LOL
     
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    Watched this last night and enjoyed it. Definitely got a bit distracted during that last half hour but otherwise I found it was pretty compelling and didn't think it felt like a 3 and a half hour movie.
     
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    Apparently this was "watch incredibly long movies with the family" weekend, as we watched The Irishman on NetFlix last night and the much more entertaining Ford v Ferrari at the theater this afternoon.

    As for this movie, I probably wasn't as enthusiastic as most. It was fine, I guess. Way too long. To be fair, I'm definitely not the target demo here, as male-heavy mobster movies aren't really my thing. I thought the second half was far more engaging than the first. I especially liked the aftermath stuff, like how all these things that were so important and made these guys feel like hot shit were ultimately pointless, self-destructive, and forgotten in the end. The little texts that would come up reminded me of Cold Pursuit from earlier this year.

    Knowing a little about Hoffa's disappearance, that fishy car-ride reminded me a lot of Adriana's fateful and unbearably tense car-ride in The Sopranos.

    I like that some of these lengthy Oscar-bait movies are going straight to NetFlix. Saves me trips to the theater for movies that occasionally feel like obligations rather than entertainment. Streaming was kind of perfect for this movie, as I enjoyed it enough but physical media isn't necessary because it's not something I'd ever watch again. I'm much more excited for Marriage Story next week.
     
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    I enjoyed Ford V Ferrari more than The Irishman as well although both were too long. I've had the blu-ray for 1900 sitting on my shelf to watch for a while now but haven't been able to find the courage to sit down to a five hour movie.
     
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    FvF was a good enough crowd pleaser but the Irishman has much more vision and was a wonderfully reflective piece of film making
     

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