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Discussion in 'General' started by Workshed, Dec 5, 2016.
But was it scary?
Seems like this will lose money according to an article I read.
The International market like with many big movies is what will prevent it from being a major failure.
Ah, not really but it had more scares than the Brandon Fraiser The Mummy (1999)
I liked this movie more than I expected after hearing the lukewarm responses to the film. There was mix of CGI and practical effects, leaning more on the CGI side of fence. Tom Cruise did a fine job as the lead, I guarantee if this was 1999(and the Brandon movie never existed)this film would have been huge for him. I know ticket prices are more expensive now, but this movie did almost the same "worldwide" as the 1999 film.
As anyone who saw the 1999 version, there was the whole Indiana Jones vibe, heavy on humor from a lot of characters. In the 2017 version the humor is kept to a minimum, but it is there and it worked. As far as the action, Tom Cruise was in his element, now I'm fully aware some scenes had to be CGI, but this guy was doing a lot of standard stunts. Running, fighting, climbing, jumping, underwater ... you name it Tom did it. Props to him for really physically getting into the role.
As far as the horror/scares, I would say there was about three times I honestly jumped. Regardless if they were cheap or not, they did jolt me and I'm not a afraid to admit it. Thought the mummy/zombie creatures were quite effective imho. They looked really good , part of them were CGI and some parts were practical effects. It was a nice blend.
Russell Crowe's character was a big surprise to me, which I won't give away. And there's "An American Werewolf in London" element in the Mummy 2017. See the movie to appreciate(or hate) this little reference. Now only AFTER I saw the movie did I hear about this "Dark Universe" stuff. Will it go through with it's plans or not remain to be seen, but I'm all in now. Just can't imagine Tom Cruise continuing but we'll see.
Yeah, it wasn't as bad as rumored.
It was entertaining enough.
There was some cool shots in there, like the one where the zombies rise from their graves, in London.
Looked like something out of an old Hammer movie.
I wish they had stuck with that gothic look, throughout the movie.
When all hell broke loose in London, it did remind me a bit of the climax in Lifeforce
I found this one very forgettable. It honestly made me appreciate the 1999 version after seeing it. There's a couple of good bits in it that show potential but it's tone is all over the place. The comedy aspect felt forced and totally wasn't needed. It's like they were trying too hard to copy Marvel and forgot their universe should be based on horror and aimed to adults. It also didn't feel like a complete movie with it left way too open and the ending feeling rushed.
I honestly hope they bin this universe and go back to the drawing board.
The Dark Universe might be over before it even really started.
Too bad. I didn't mind The Mummy. I was cool with the humour and thought it was fine.
I feel like this was mentioned already but not in this thread by the looks of it. Good riddence I say. These types of moves don't work too well as action/horror/comedy hybrids. Give me a proper horror of the Mummy and I'll be there in theatres.
If Universal really wants to take inspiration from comic books for a shared universe concept, they should look into the Marvels miniseries. I think a "monster of the week" series of films, built around a Phil Sheldon-esque protagonist, might work better than whatever they were going for with the Dark Universe.
The writing was on the wall when they postponed Bride of Frankenstein indefinitely.
This pretty much boils down to one fundamental problem they have, and that is that the ones with super powers were the bad guys. And they're trying to flip that script but nobody's buying it (literally).
The thing is the executives are right the Universal Horrors were the first major movie mash ups, but they did it not by following the Marvel model but instead more like the Godzilla model where you throw a bunch of monsters together and one's the least worst so you kinda root for them. And that would be the Wolf Man.
These past few years have shown Horror can be a hit. And they can do it with sensible budgets and not really big stars.
But I don't know... Universal has struggled for so long with these classic horrors revamped as action movies I think the general public has soured so much it's impossible to turn these around in the general public's minds. Anyone who sees these franchise's name on the marquee are just going to keep on walking.
Meanwhile the original films retain high value, especially compared to their contemporaries. All the Mummy stuff I saw on the shelves this Halloween carried Karloff's face not Cruise's (or what's her name if you want to get technical). It's an amazing thing to consider these films still are bankable 75 years later. But if Universal keeps this up they may even lose that!
I'm not at all sorry to hear this news. A Bride of Frankenstein film starring Angelina Jolie as The Bride sounds like one of the worst ideas ever.
This also makes the recent The Mummy film even worse in retrospect. So much of that movie was spent on world-building (at the direct expense of the supposed plot of the film), the fact that that world will never actually come to fruition makes it that much more of a waste of time.
I don't know I think they work pretty good when done right. (I assume you are only talking about Universal Horror movies , not working well) The Branden Fraser Mummy movies were pretty popular. They hit on everything you stated, action/horror/comedy. All 4 films combined made around $1.4 billion worldwide.
I thought Penny Dreadful did a really good job with some of those characters. I still haven't seen the new Mummy and I'm really not looking forward to it.
I wish I could make a Mummy and Creature from the Black Lagoon movie though. I have a few good ideas. Usually that's enough for me to get rolling with an outline and story. But I don't think they would sell well with the need for overly action oriented movies.
As a kid I enjoyed the first 2 Branden Fraser Mummy movies but I don't think they're that great now. Admittedly I don't remember a lot about them but this new one makes them seem far more appealing.
Back when those Branden Fraser Mummy movies came out I never associated them with the original Mummy though. It never even crossed my mind till much later that it was a remake. It's just so different. They feel more like Indiana Jones. I feel like this new one shouldn't have tried to replicate that. It just didn't mesh well for the new film. They were better off going the route of Van Helsing if they wanted to world build. That was action packed but still more horror based.
Well looks like they are going forward but trying to figure out how to make it work still
I finally got around to watching An American Mummy In London on HBO this afternoon, and wow, what a hot mess! Glad I didn't waste money seeing this in the theater or blind-buying it on Black Friday (which I was tempted). It's basically a rip-off of American Werewolf In London where Tom Cruise dies and comes back to life, then sees his wisecracking friend Jake Johnson (who he killed) walking around as a ghost who explains everything to him. Then Russell Crowe shows up as Dr. Jekyll and babels on for half an hour, then Tom Cruise runs a lot, and blah blah WTFever. The best part is when Tom Cruise first sees the mummy lady, then runs away in a panic, leaving behind the girl. I think it was supposed to pay-off at the end of the movie
where he finally saves the girl,
but the way that was done was so baffling and awkward. At least I got one laugh out of it.
Thank you HBO for saving me money. If this was their plan for the "Dark Universe", for the love of God leave it dead.
For the record, I actually like the Brendan Fraiser movies. They're fun.
It's on demand now and I guess I'll watch it soon. I still haven't watched that modern Dracula which shows how much interest I have in these new versions.
I finally watched this Mummy reboot and beginning (end) to the Dark Universe. What made me watch it was seeing Russell Crowe's recent auction of his movie items. Even though he was selling them he really seemed to love movies and stories behind the items. I decided it was time to see his performance in The Mummy.
I originally thought it would be an action movie and I wasn't surprised when that's what I got. What I was surprised by is that they thought this was the best way to start a Dark Universe and the odd comedic moments throughout the movie. Also the small hints to other classic Universal Monsters which I thought wasn't the best way to introduce them. Someone who truly likes these monsters could do so much more given the budget and a handful of movies to tie together. I just felt a lack of creativity and that it was a movie of action sequences with a few bits of dialog to explain the story as they progressed.
I thought the best thing was the plane sequence but Tom Cruise likes to do those real things for movies. We've seen the vomit comet in movies before but it's still a good scene in this movie. The lead actress is beautiful. I've seen her in a few movies and TV shows before. But this could have been a real timeless type role for her with a better director. I checked the official posters galleries and she didn't even make any of them which is disappointing. In fact you would think there would be some classic styled posters for the beginning of this series considering those notable old posters but I didn't see any. The actress who plays the Mummy is good but again with a better director and script she could be far better and iconic. I did like Russell Crowe's character. Perhaps it would have been better to start the whole series with him as his character felt the closest in style and atmosphere to the classic monsters.
Overall it was a letdown. It didn't really suck as it was entertaining as most Tom Cruise movies are. And I'm still a fan even though I don't think he'll ever make a movie better than Top Gun. But it just should have been so much better. I didn't care about the ending scene or feel the need to see more adventures of this type or the next entry in the Dark Universe.
That part with the van and curse was clever. But the whole character development is a problem with the script as Tom Cruise's character is supposed to be I assume an anti-hero rogue type that only cares about himself and money. But it never comes off that way because we are only told that in dialog. There is the bit with the treasure at the beginning. But the clearest scene was when he explains the parachute plane sequence. Still we barely see him really only caring about himself. At least no more than the average person would in those circumstances. I think that's where a better director (and writer) would produce a better movie. It's like the difference when Schwarzenegger works with James Cameron we get great Terminator movies and all the other ones are garbage.