The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003) Anticipation/Reviews/Discussion

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  1. dwatts

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    --It means that once the movies out it doesnt matter where they started from. Its not relavant. Judge the movie on its merits.--

    Oh sure, I absolutely agree with that. On the other hand, I think that's what people have been doing. However, surely that kind of work can be a detriment as well as a benefit.
     
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    I must also add that David Fincher at least had some prior experience working on movies like Temple of Doom and Return of the Jedi before directing Alien 3, so he was never "just" a video director.
     
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    X-human I ate my keys

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    People have compared movies before for decades, now suddenly when we're talking remakes there are objections? If someone makes a movie about a chainsaw wielding cannibal chasing a girl it's going to be compared to the original TCM regardless of the new movie's title. PERIOD.

    Oh, I could live with that. :D
     
  4. onebyone

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    There is a time frame now? If you don't make the transition fast enough, you suck? It kind of seems like you are reaching to me.
     
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    Aside from making ads and videos, after more than a decade in the business, the guy had absolutely no screen credits on a feature film to his name, not even as an intern. This doesn't say to me that the guy had any talent other than making friends in high places. How awful the TCM remake just kind of confirms it. It's a lazy, cliched movie made by lazy people for a lazy audience. If Nispel had any real drive to direct he would have been much more active during the 90s.
     
  6. onebyone

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    See, this is the thing. If you don't like the movie, anyone involved with it, and all of us who like it, that is fine with me. More power to you. Call me lazy, I don't care. However, to act like it is all because of his background, when, like it or not, several noted directors got their start the same way he did, seems kind of silly to me.
     
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    I never said TCM sucked because of his background in video production. But to go from making a video for a Christian musician to the remake of a horror genre classic is quite a leap. That's the only point I tried to make. I'm fully aware that some video directors made the transition. Spike Jonze is a great example. His talents was always self evident in his videos, and I've been a fan of his since before he made his first movie. But it's not hard to see that the ones with talent make a quicker transition to film than those that don't.
     
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    My point is you critisize the cookies, you dont say they taste bad because the man used to be a chef and not a baker. Tell me why you dont like the cookies.

    Hell Romero worked in industrial film first, judging by those you would have kept him there.
     
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    Yeah, and Romero has made three good films! ;)

    What is Romero's "style", I've always found his work to be rather pedestrian. Good stories, but his direction is nothing great at all, imo.
     
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    I've told you already. If you can't see that by now and can't read between the lines, then that's none of my concern, but anyways, I'll say it once more: The TCM remake is a lazy movie with little to no thought put into it. I think the director, as well as the entire crew other than the set designer sleptwalked through the entire production. I don't feel that he was even remotely interested in delivering a good horror movie. It's strictly by the numbers and the most overly cliched piece of garbage I've seen in a while. I have my doubts as to whether the guy even likes the genre. I'm willing to wager that he'd rather be directing a Julia Roberts vehicle than an exploitation film. That's what I got from the movie. I learned about his prior work after the fact and did nothing to bias my opinion of it. I already decided it was crap. Learning that it was made by a guy who mostly made videos for crappy soft rock artists was just the icing on the cake (or cookie).
     
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    The more that I think about this, the less sense it makes. The cookies would taste bad because the baker isn't a baker, he's a chef. If he had no prior experience baking, then the fact that he was a chef would go a long way in explaining why. I guess, since you seem to think that chefs don't also know how to bake. It's more like if an orthopaedic surgeon wants to become a heart specialist, you don't want him tinkering with your ticker right away. Not unless he wants to get sued for malpractice. He has to go back to medical school then intern before performing surgery on a heart.
     
  12. Ravenheart

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    I liked the TCM remake and could really care less who directed it LOL
     
  13. stone88

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    This movie is a pure piece of shit!
    Was anyone involved with this garbage born before 1973?? Hello...Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" was released in 1974 and Biel is singing it in the van like she's heard it a thousand times before.
    The sheriff also loves Skynyrd even though they were a new band with only one album and considered a dope smoking hippie band at the time. Find me one cop from central texas in '73 that listened to rock music.
    Did they have boob jobs in 1973? Of course not, but somehow Jessica Biel stepped into a time machine and got one.
    Every one of the so-called actors looked and acted like they were living in 2004 not 1973. The whole movie feels the same way, it's just too damn slick looking.
    The first 45 minutes of this so-called remake are extremely SLOW, and then a girl pulls a gun out of a place that was so unbelievable I laughed. Was I supposed it laugh? Was that a sick joke? Or a bunch of hacks TRYING to be shocking?
    I really enjoyed the first 3 chainsaw movies and could even find some good things about part 4 (especially Vilmer's crazy antics).
    If the producers had taken off the 1973 beginning and set it in present day (which it really is) and called it Part 5, then I may have cut it some slack, but it would still be at the bottom of my chainsaw massacre list.
    "Wrong Turn" is 10 times better than this awful retread.

    I know some people, mostly teenagers like this remake but I can't believe that anyone in their 30's (like me) that has a deep appreciation for the original TCM wouldn't consider this as anything but a slap in the face.
     
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    "This movie is a pure piece of shit!
    Was anyone involved with this garbage born before 1973?? Hello...Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" was released in 1974 and Biel is singing it in the van like she's heard it a thousand times before.
    The sheriff also loves Skynyrd even though they were a new band with only one album and considered a dope smoking hippie band at the time. Find me one cop from central texas in '73 that listened to rock music.
    Did they have boob jobs in 1973? Of course not, but somehow Jessica Biel stepped into a time machine and got one."

    So you pointed out a flaw about the use of 70's references, ok...

    "The first 45 minutes of this so-called remake are extremely SLOW, and then a girl pulls a gun out of a place that was so unbelievable I laughed."

    It's funny that you pin point exactly when Skynard's release was, but make sweeping statements about the timeline of the film - 45 minutes in? Are you sure? That sounds like :bs: to me. Anyway, continue...

    "Was I supposed it laugh? Was that a sick joke? Or a bunch of hacks TRYING to be shocking?"

    No, not laugh, if that is funny to you, its time to check yourself in. Anyways, this argument is weak. So what, it didn't affect you the way it was supposed to, but then again, I think they were trying to appeal to people who don't really give a shit when Sweet Home Alabama came out.

    "I really enjoyed the first 3 chainsaw movies and could even find some good things about part 4 (especially Vilmer's crazy antics). If the producers had taken off the 1973 beginning and set it in present day (which it really is) and called it Part 5, then I may have cut it some slack, but it would still be at the bottom of my chainsaw massacre list.
    "Wrong Turn" is 10 times better than this awful retread."

    And thus you flush your credibility down the shitter like I knew you would. 'Nuff said.
     
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    Hey, stone88 - that's an EXCELLENT post and gave me a good laugh. You mention some things I never picked up on, and they're valid points. Good stuff.
     
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    Stone88 - dwatts is just saying that to spite me. We like to argue on everything, so that was most likely posted to bait me into- oops looks like I fell for it. ;) Really though your points sucked.
     
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    I didn't notice the Lynnard Skinnard thing, but that is definitely going to bug me now when I watch it. I overall still enjoy the film, though.
     
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    --Stone88 - dwatts is just saying that to spite me. We like to argue on everything, so that was most likely posted to bait me into- oops looks like I fell for it. Really though your points sucked.--

    Mok - we have a truce, so nothing is aimed at baiting you ;) I loved the guys post, and he's damn right. I never thought of it before, but the new film does not at all capture the feeling of the times it tries to portray. hey, I liked the post - thumbs up!
     

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