Troma's Stendhal Syndrome DVD

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  1. Suicide

    Suicide Space Bastard!

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    I'm thinking about buying this. They have it for $15 at Best Buy. I was just curious what some of you think of the movie. I'm not too worried about perfect picture quality, just about the actual movie. Also I'm not too big on rape scenes, and was wondering how graphic they are.
     
  2. Jason25

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    Great film, I think it is one of Argento's best. The Troma dvd really sucks if you ask me, i thought the transfer was awful, it is Troma though. I still wonder how Troma acquired the rights.
     
  3. mutleyhyde

    mutleyhyde Fuck it.

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    "Qualifications?"
    "Rape, murder, arson and rape."
    "You said rape twice."
    "I like rape."
    "Charming!"
    :D
     
  4. Mario77

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    Jason25 is so very right, the Troma DVD print sucks anus.
    But the movie is terrific. Very disturbingly beautiful. Yeah the rape scenes are pretty intense and not pretty, but they are integral to the story for certain.
    Highly reccomended!
     
  5. crank

    crank Guest

    Don't forget the interview with Dario by Loyd Kaufman. After that experience it's no wonder Dario isn't making films in America anylonger. Lets just hope Troma doesn't somehow secure the rights to NonHoSonno.

    crank
     
  6. boyd1955

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    Hey Chris
    As everything comes down to a matter of taste it is dificult to say... In my, and a lot of peoples opinions, "Stendahl Syndrome" is Argentos worst film ever and is totally unwatchable due to terrible acting and a total lack of style and coherance... Hopefully his new film will be better as many of the people that have followed his work since the 70s have lost all respect for him.
     
  7. mutleyhyde

    mutleyhyde Fuck it.

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    Max Von Sydow will save Dario! :D
     
  8. Jason25

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    I can see how one could say this about Phantom, but I do not see how you can say this about Stendhal. I thought it was an amazing film. It definitely is not his worst film ever.

    I am also amazed that you can say it has " a total lack of style", care to elaborate on that one? I am not knocking your opinion, I was just wondering if you could explain your stance further.
     
  9. Paff

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    Are you the guy we had this argument with before?

    I love The Stendhal Syndrome. One of Argento's best movies, and definitely one of his most stylish. (dubbing still sucks though). I'm not much of an art buff, but I can clearly see the way the movie progresses through periods of art. There's a "Renneisance"<sp?>, minimalism, modern art, etc.

    I mean, look at the obvious symbolism of that splash of blood on Asia's VERY white blouse. That's the first "stroke of paint" the artist is putting on the new canvas, and the craziness of what happens results in a very mixed up painting. For once, the incoherence of an Argento script makes perfect sense at the end. All of the incoherent things result in an incoherent person.

    This movie will be studied and studied over time. A modern classic.
     
  10. boyd1955

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    Yes Paff... I am the guy who you had the arguement with before... But I still have not changed my mind about SS... Even "Phantom" was better in my opinion, although that just looked like a TV Movie... It at least had more style... I'm sorry about this... I've admired and collected Argentos work for the past 30 years ( 45 if your interested ) and I've watched him loose it completely in the last decade... Haven't seen the new one yet... Will probably wait and see it at the Prince Charles in August... Always best to see his films on the big screen... And I've seen all of them... I will be really pleased if he's managed a comeback, but from all I've heard so far I'm not holding my breath... Everyone has their own opinion... You like "Stendhl Syndrome"... Fine... Just admit your in a very small minority
     
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    Hey, I'm ok with that. Even if I'm the only person on the planet that likes The Stendhal Syndrome, it's fine by me. That movie made me think, has excellent replay value, and demands analysis of almost every frame. In other words, it's like all of Dario's best films to me. So I don't care who likes it and who hates it. *I* love it, and that's all that matters in the end.

    Funny thing is, I DON'T think I'm in a very small minority. I know it was panned on initial release (almost ALL of Dario's films were as well, I'm sure you know that), but have built up a following over time. Stendhal fans are beginning to come out of the woodwork to praise this film now. Read the liner notes to the recent Cat O Nine Tails release and you'll see the phrase "the woefully underrated Stendhal Syndrome". I also wonder what Maitland McDonagh, who took overanalysis of film to an entirely new level in her Argento book, thinks of this movie.

    Obviously we agree to disagree on the quality of The Stendhal Syndrome, but I still think that Dario Argento puts everything he has into a movie, even Phantom of the Opera. Of course, that doesn't always make for a GOOD movie (again, Phantom of the Opera.....bleccch), but it's why I admire his work.

    I also wonder if Stendhal might get more respect if it wasn't on the damn Troma label. Whatever...time will tell...
     
  12. mutleyhyde

    mutleyhyde Fuck it.

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    Paff, do you get special consideration for being a minority? I am so laughing here. ;)

    I've never seen Stendahl, probably because I refuse to ever watch anymore Troma dvds, but I've seen much more positive statements at least in this forum about Stendahl than bad. Yes, I lead a sheltered life and don't get out to other forums much, so maybe my view is a little skewed, but I hardly think that Paff is in the minority on this, at least here anyway. But then, what does that matter? Both of your opinions carry equal weight. Just because one is in the majority does not make their opinion "right", just popular. In the end, it all amount's to personal preferance, and arguing over personal preferance is just like banging your head against a brick wall.

    Y'all play nice now!:D


    (watch me get flamed for this :rolleyes: )
     
  13. Paff

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    Minority Status: Liked The Stendhal Syndrome

    can I put that on my next job application?

    Seriously, I think the "minority" comment only implied that it's not a universally well-liked film, NOT that somehow the amount of people that enjoy a film has any bearing on it's worth.

    And I've heard several long-time Argento fans slam The Stendhal Syndrome, so it's no surprise to hear the film bad mouthed even here. Basically, both our opinions are equally valid, and equally worthless since appreciating a film is so subjective. I just have a feeling that our "minority" group will become larger and larger over time. Damn the Man. We shall overcome. Power to the People. All we are saying is give Stendhal a chance. Um, any other catch phrases I missed?

    And I won't tell anyone if you quietly break your non-Troma principles just this once. Shhhh. Trust me, it's worth it, if only this one time....
     
  14. Traumaville

    If you've never watched a Troma DVD, that means you're missing out on the Cannibal! the Musical special edition... Tell me - what meaning does your life hold, then? ;)
    Anyway, transfer aside, Stendhal's good... It's definitely not his best, or even close... It's a big step down from his earlier films... But Argento at his worst is still better than most horror directors at their best. If you enjoy Argento's films, I can't see disliking Stendhal... you just probably like it as much.
     
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    I must concur with Werner...
    I don't care how much you think Troma sucks balls (and boy do they ever!) , if you don't own Canibal! The Musical on DVD, then, sadly, you're missing perhaps the best all-singing, all-dancing, all-slice-and-dicing extravaganza of all time! What the trailer says is true, "In the tradition of Friday the 13th Part II and Oklahoma comes... Canibal! The Musical ". The only two Troma DVDs I own are Stenhal and Canibal, and I love them both, despite them being from... a-hem (cough, cough)... from Troma.
     
  16. mutleyhyde

    mutleyhyde Fuck it.

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    Ahh, but I DO have the Canibal! dvd Werner! It is great indeed. As a matter of fact, I have the whole initial run of Troma dvds (22 titles? from the 25 cent sale) and that is a big reason why I don't buy them anymore ;) ! They are just not done well; bad transfers, awful menu navigation, OAR out the fricken window, etc.. Add to that the HUGE FUCKIN HEADACHE I had to go through to get my Roan dvds since March (everthing finally got resolved about a month ago, thank you very much). I'll eventually get Stendahl probably, but I'm just not in a rush.
     
  17. The Chaostar

    The Chaostar Johnny Hallyday forever

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    Stendhal is a masterpiece, a real work of art.
    One of his best films I believe.

    Buy the french or dutch dvd.
     
  18. domper9

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    framing mystery

    The dutch DFW disc arrived today.

    Pretty happy with it; i haven't seen enough DVD's yet to make an objective judgement :( but the sound sure is effective when those paintings come to life!

    Too bad it doesn't have an italian soundtrack though. I hate it when I can't hear the original actor voices.

    The french disc doesn't have it either but Troma does, so I'm still not convinced Troma's such a bad buy.
    There's been some debate about fake letterboxing on the Troma disc. There's agreement that the DFW is framed correctly so I say let's try an experiment: here's a frame from the DFW from the beginning of the movie; how about somebody out there post the same image from the Troma disc and we can settle at least that?

    d9
     

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  19. The Chaostar

    The Chaostar Johnny Hallyday forever

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    There is NO italian soundtrack in TROMA's Stendhal Syndrome!

    However, don't be so sure that you'll hear the actors voices in the italian version of Stendhal. The italians work in such a mysterious way...
     
  20. domper9

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    Not again! Everything I find on websites about this disc, is wrong! First the director's commentary, now this... I can't say I'm thrilled about the quality of many online stores out there.

    resting in peace now,

    d9
     

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