Trying to convert someone to a horror lover

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  1. betterdan

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    I was talking to a guy at work who is 22. He has just gotten a dvd player for Christmas and was wanting to borrow one of my dvds to watch as he only has Gladiator. I told him I mostly had horror out of my 130 dvds. I showed him my list of dvds and he said he couldn't believe I didn't have "really" scary movies like Stigmata. He then asked what Salem's Lot,Carrie, and Army of Darkness were among others! He does not know what a damn good horror movie is and I want to convert him to a REAL horror fan. Below is listed all my horror dvds which one should I let him borrow? I don't want to turn him off but onto horror so that I can finally have a friend who has the same taste in movies as me. Everyone here in Virginia I know thinks I am weird when I mention one of my movies because they have never heard of most of them...
    AMITYVILLE HORROR, THE
    ARMY OF DARKNESS
    BAY OF BLOOD
    BEYOND, THE (LIMITED EDITION TIN)
    BLACK CHRISTSMAS
    BOOGEY MAN / DEVONSVILLE TERROR
    CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST
    CANNIBAL MAN
    CANNIBAL FEROX
    CARNIVAL OF SOULS / HORROR HOTEL
    CARRIE
    CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD
    DAY OF THE DEAD
    DEAD ALIVE
    DEEP BLUE SEA
    DEEP RED
    DON’T LOOK IN THE BASEMENT
    DON'T GO IN THE HOUSE
    END OF DAYS
    EVIL DEAD
    EVIL DEAD 2 DEAD BY DAWN
    EXORCIST, THE
    FRIDAY THE 13TH
    FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2
    FRIGHT NIGHT
    FUNHOUSE, THE
    GARGOYLES
    HALLOWEEN (RESTORED EDITION)
    HALLOWEEN 2
    HALLOWEEN 3
    HELLBOUND HELLRAISER 2
    HELLRAISER
    INFERNO
    JAWS
    LET SLEEPING CORPSES LIE
    MANIAC
    NEW YORK RIPPER
    NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD
    NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET COLLECTION
    NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET
    NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 2 FREDDY’S REVENGE
    NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 3 DREAM WARRIORS
    NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 4 THE DREAM MASTER
    NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 5 THE DREAM CHILD
    FREDDY’S DEAD THE FINAL NIGHTMARE
    WES CRAVEN’S NEW NIGHTMARE
    THE NIGHTMARE SERIES DVD ENCYCLOPEDIA
    PHANTASM
    PHENOMENA
    PIECES
    PIRANHA
    PROM NIGHT
    ROSEMARY’S BABY
    SALEM’S LOT
    SCREAM (DELUXE COLLECTORS EDITION)
    SENTINEL, THE
    SEVEN
    SHINING, THE
    SIXTH SENSE
    SLEEPY HOLLOW
    SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE
    STIR OF ECHOES
    TENEBRE
    TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, THE
    TOURIST TRAP
    TRILOGY OF TERROR
    TWITCH OF THE DEATH NERVE (ON PREORDER)
    ZOMBIE


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  2. mutleyhyde

    mutleyhyde Fuck it.

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    This guy sounds like a "modernite". I can't stand it when people go "oh, that's old." I'm serious, I fucking hate that. There was this chick at my last job that was into all the new horror stuff (Stir of Echoes, Stigmata, etc...) but when it came to the classics, she just "didn't do" black & white or anything before the 90's for that matter. I'd say find out if your friend is a modernite or not, then that may narrow your choice down a bit. If he is, let him borrow a few newer titles, then try opening his eyes to the classics (after you've gained his cinematic trust). By the way, there was this other chick at my last job that was totally into all of it; old, new - the gorier the better. I'm not shitting you, she dug New York Ripper!?! She was cool, but married. Damn!

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  3. betterdan

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    He said he would like to see an older movie. He wanted to see faces of death but I don't have that dvd.
     
  4. DVD Connoisseur

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    Faces of Death! I would have thought that would turn anyone off the horror genre for good. (Apart from that spine chilling, beyond the grave bit at the end. That gave me the collywobbles for weeks as a youngster!) A Nightmare On Elm Street might be a suitable older movie. It's, in my opinion, a mainstream "modern" '80s horror movie.
     
  5. fishhead

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    Hmmm...I'm not a good one to ask since I don't think I could resist pulling out the big guns with Beyond, Dead Alive, Cannibal Holocaust, and so on. I would be sure to drown the poor guy in gore [​IMG]

    Anyway, Jaws might be a good one to start with (followed by Pirahna). Then try Texas Chainsaw Massacre - that's a classic that everyone needs to see. Maybe then try Army of Darkness to see how he goes for gore and humor and then adjust from there.


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  6. Mark Relford

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    Good suggestions, guys. Those flicks should make a horror fan out of him. TCM, The Shining, Phantasm, Evil Dead, Hellraiser, and Fright Night are recommended.

    On another note, I tried to get my nephew into the 70's-80's classics of the genre.
    Exposed him to Evil Dead, Phantasm, An American Werewolf in London, TCM, The Exorcist, Dawn of the Dead, etc. They were either too boring or something to make fun of. (sigh) I should teach the brat some respect for the classics! [​IMG]

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  7. JBENE

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    Gimme me a break FACES OF DEATH.That's not horror at all and I hate when fans only watch films from the 90's(which by the way is one of the worst in horror history).If I had to give someone 10 films to open their mind about the genre here they are

    HALLOWEEN
    THE EXORCIST
    JAWS
    POLTERGEIST
    TCM
    THE HILLS HAVE EYES
    DAWN OF THE DEAD
    A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET
    FRIDAY THE 13TH
    FRIGHT NIGHT

    If these choices don't due then they don't know shit about horror.
     
  8. mutleyhyde

    mutleyhyde Fuck it.

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    Hmmm... I'd say, if he hasn't already seen them, the American modern classics; Amityville Horror, Rosemary's Baby, and although I don't see them on your list, The Omen and The Exorcist are really the big guns. Or, if those are too high-brow or boggy for ya, and you think he'd be more into gore, then I'd say alternating doses of the zombie flicks and slashers.

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  9. SantaSangre

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    Hey betterdan! Where in VA do you live? I live here, too!
    Carey
     
  10. betterdan

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    SantaSangre I am in Portsmouth. I think I'll let him borrow Halloween and Evil Dead first. If he thinks those are no good then he can forget it. Also if my discs come back with so much as a fingerprint he's gonna see more blood than in dead alive!
     
  11. joltaddict

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    Mutley, I like you and all but quit hitting on my wife [​IMG]

    Give him The Shining. If he doesn't like it he is a lost cause, move on. You could give him TCM, but you have to make him promise NOT to give up during the establishing sequences. Some are put off by the low budget 70's flicks so you gotta kinda force feed them it.

    I liked Stir of Echoes, I feel it was underrated. He would definitely like it but it would not make him more receptive to other non-hollywood type pics.
     
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    joltaddict, The Shining is (IMHO) a love it or hate it movie. For me, it was a great disappointment. I love King, I like Kubrick, but the film was too long and disjointed for me. (And it strayed too far from its source material.) I wouldn't recommend it to a newcomer as there may not be enough going on to hold the viewer's attention. Just my opinion - I know some people love this film. (P.S. I am not a lost cause! I thought Nicholson was excellent but the film just didn't gel for me.)
     
  13. AceRimRat

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    Just as a guess, I would suggest Halloween is a good starting point - it's not too slow, not too gross, scary, and the kind of film you can compare others to as a base. (For instance, Evil Dead, you say, less plot, more gore, goofier, just as creepy; for F13 you say less intelligence, more mystery, etc. or what-have-you.)

    I think Halloween sort of transcends subgenres as a horror film, and that would make it a good starting point - I'd recommend Jaws for the scares, but you can't bridge that into a slasher too well, I don't think.

    If he liked Sixth Sense/Stir of Echoes and that kind of psychological horror, maybe try some stuff along those lines, like Exorcist or Omen if he's got a little religion. Or the first NOES if he doesn't.

    Get him into the more "out-there" subgenres later, like Euro and cannibal stuff, the stuff that isn't for everyone - once you're sure he's hooked (er, Hellraiser joke unintended) and can take a few he doesn't like and not go, "screw this horror crap."
     
  14. joltaddict

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    I meant that if he couldn't take to Kubrick, Argento or Bava were gonna be impossible to sell him on, and forget about Fulchi.

    I feel that if he enjoyed Stigmata, as he said, you should ease him into different horror naratives, Kubrick IMO, is a good way to slowly pull him out of the way hollywood type movies lead the viewer, and into a little more artistically expessed (thematic) horror.

    Your dislike of The Shining is perfectly valid, I wasn't critizing anyone who has problems with this film. I just feel the presentation is a good mid-point between Stigmata/Sixth Sense type horror and the directors who require a little more effort on the viewer part, like the Euro-horror masters.

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  15. DVD Connoisseur

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    joltaddict, I see where you're coming from, now. I guess "The Shining" is a good "transitional" movie, in that it's "arty" but is still firmly footed in the American horror genre. The next step after this, I guess, would perhaps be an Italian movie. I keep going back to Deep Red because it's like a Hitchcock movie in many respects. I admit, though, that the US based movies are probably a safer area for this viewer, until he determines his likes / dislikes.
     
  16. landrvr

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    well, say what you will about kubrick's shining. it sure beat the shit out of that moronic mini-series version....
     

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