Unpopular opinions!

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  1. _pi_

    _pi_ Peace, bitch

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    I know we've had "bad films I love"-kind of threads before, but this isn't quite like that.

    I got the idea from another forum (a UK-based pop music forum actually :D) and we've been having tons of fun with it over there, so I thought I'd introduce it to this forum.

    Here we can feel free to post whatever unpopular pet peeves we have regarding our favorite genre and all it entails! Do you not get Romero's zombie films? Is Bruce Campbell an overrated ham-actor? Did you think The Fog remake was infinitely better than the original?

    If you do, then tell us! You might not be alone ;)

    The way I envision this is that this doesn't turn into a debate or fight-thread. If someone disagrees with your passion-fueled hatred of Dario Argento, then they shouldn't feel the need to discuss the topic here. This should be a place of peace and serenity. And of fun, of course.

    Ok? I'll go first:

    * I think Audition is an overrated sack of shit that has no artistic merit at all.

    * In fact, that film along with the boring original Ring and the laughable original Grudge have turned me off of J-Horror and Asian horror indefinitely.

    * I think Argento's Phantom of the Opera is 100X better than The Card Player (or at least more fun ...)

    * Planet Terror wasn't good-bad filmmaking - it was bad-bad filmmaking.

    * Wes Craven hasn't lost it yet. He's just looking for it ...

    * Renny Harlin should do more horror work. Or just any work.

    * Nostalgia aside, I think Stephen King's IT movie is awful. It has some of the worst adult performances I have ever seen. Ever!

    * Zombie films get far too much attention from the horror community. And I also feel giallos are sometimes severely overrated.

    * I would have no problem if there was no nudity in horror films. Unless, of course, it's my kind of nudity :)

    * The Mothman Prophecies is one of the 5 creepiest films released in the last 10 years.

    * I wouldn't notice if Tobe Hooper never made a film ever again.

    Don't remember much more at the moment, but I'll be sure to add some stuff whenever I feel the need to! :D
     
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  2. DrHerbertWest

    DrHerbertWest For Your Health

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    I disagree with this. I'm not a fan of Takashi's all around work, meaning I like some here and some there, but this one completely works for me.

    I'm not a big fan of J-Horror. I have yet to see Ringu. I do enjoy Ju-On though.

    This one makes me angry... Haha!

    Dude hasn't made a good movie in years.

    I can agree with this, as long as it's not mainstream teeny bopper horror films.

    Another OUCH. I like this movie a lot, for nostalgia mainly but it still creeps me out in places. Beep beep, Richie.

    I disagree with a lot of these but this is an awesome idea for a thread. Thanks pi! I hope more people contribute to this. I'd be curious to see what people think.
     
  3. onebyone

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    Truth.
     
  4. RyanPC

    RyanPC Guest

    There was a thread much like this one and it turned into a trainwreck. It's interesting to read, though. :D

    * Asian horror is mostly terrible. The first half of Audition was good, but the second half brought it way down for me. The original Ringu is a snoozefest; the American remake is a lot better.

    * Halloween III: Season of the Witch is the second best movie in the series after the first one.

    * Argento's Phantom of the Opera is a good movie if you watch it as a comedy. I used to hate it like everybody else, but a recent rewatch (my fourth, actually) made me change my mind.

    * Death Proof is much better than Planet Terror, which isn't as much fun after multiple viewings.

    * Night of the Seagulls is the best film in the Blind Dead series.

    * Demons 2 is a terrible film, even though it is essentially a remake of the brilliant original.

    * Exorcist II: The Heretic is an interesting film and not as bad as everybody says it is.

    * The House By the Cemetery pretty much sucks; it's one of Fulci's worst films. Most people rank it among his best and I can't understand why.

    * Jackie Brown is Tarantino's best film.

    * Jaws is a good film, but Duel is better.

    * The Prowler is an extremely average slasher film except for the death scenes, which are the best I've ever seen in a movie.

    * Shock Treatment is better than The Rocky Horror Picture Show (but only slightly).
     
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  5. 17thJuggalo

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    * The American Ring remake was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

    * Kill Baby Kill! and Black Sunday are both gut-wrenchingly boring.

    * Behind the Mask is the most overrated horror film of recent times.

    * The Beyond didn't make an ounce of sense and it was hard to sit through.

    * The Roost needs much much more recognition than it gets.

    * Cemetary Man bored me to death.

    I could go on, man this thread is going to turn into a massive train wreck!
     
  6. 17thJuggalo

    17thJuggalo Active Member

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    Truth, although I really did like The Prowler.
     
  7. RyanPC

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    I haven't seen Kill Baby Kill! (I will soon), but I agree with you about Black Sunday. Other than the cinematography, I don't see what is so great about it. :sleepy:
     
  8. RyanPC

    RyanPC Guest

    Puddytay, you are one big unpopular opinion. And I mean that in the best possible way. :lol:
     
  9. wago70

    wago70 Surviving on nostalgia

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    CGI is sometimes no better than stop-motion.
     
  10. RyanPC

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    * Stop-motion is better than CGI!
     
  11. _pi_

    _pi_ Peace, bitch

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    Ooooh can't believe I forgot!

    * The original Friday the 13th is a terrible movie. Boring and ineptly made. I'm amazed it spawned so many sequels, but that's good thing because they are ALL BETTER than the first one. Jason Goes to Hell included!
     
  12. _pi_

    _pi_ Peace, bitch

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    Yeah, this is highly inflammable trainwreck material for sure! The key thing is just to be civil and respectful.

    We all have an unpopular opinion of something. The trick is that when you disagree with something - even if it is something you truly, truly love - just to let it slide.

    SLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE.

    And then this will be a whole lotta fun.
     
  13. X-human

    X-human I ate my keys

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    - Wes Craven never had it to lose it. I think he's a complete hack that's made a career out of following the leader. The Last House on the Left is no better than the kind of fodder Something Weird Video only puts out on VHS.

    - The Ghost Galleon is easily the best film in the Blind Dead series.

    - Salem's Lot is Tobe Hooper's best film, I'm embarrassed whenever TCM is considered one of the best horror films ever made.

    - Stanley Kubrick's The Shinning is better than Stephen King's original novel.

    - Horror of Dracula and Christopher Lee's stint as Dracula in the Hammer franchise is mostly boring and severely overrated.

    - Tod Browning made terrible horror movies, including Freaks. The only reason Dracula is good is because he was asleep behind the wheel and even that had an uphill battle with dumb staging, overuse of master shots and lots of bad acting.

    - Peter Cushing is better than Christopher Lee

    - Boris Karloff is better than Bela Lugosi

    I can't really comment directly on modern films because I don't watch them much anymore, but overall I am sick and tired of maniacs running around killing people just because they're psychotic. High Tension put a nice twist on it so I liked that, but now a days it always boils down to the killer doing it only because they're bat shit crazy. :rolleyes:
     
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    ZOMBIE is overhyped, there are much better films in this genre.

    Quentin Tarantino is a hack.
     
  15. Agent Z

    Agent Z "Get to the river...

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    Here is the old thread, for those who want to check it out.

    I really can't get into the spirit of these threads, but it would be interesting to see if people's opinions have changed from the last thread.
     
  16. onebyone

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    That's an unpopular opinion? I thought it was a given.

    A few of mine...

    1. Hammer Horror is derivate and dull.
    2. Christopher Lee is great in many roles, but Dracula's not one of them.
    3. The Shining only works on a campy level.
    4. Brian De Palma stole every single shot he has ever filmed. I will never understand how he gets away with it as it is all so blatantly obvious.
    5. The Last House on the Left and The Hills Have Eyes are two of the worst films ever made, and I think everyone knows it.
    6. Italian horror is basically ridiculous.
    7. Death Proof has made me question my admiration of Quentin Tarantino's movies.
    8. Remakes aren't that big of a deal.
    9. The Beyond sucks. Plain and simple.
    10. More gore and more tits is not always better. Settle down Beavis.

    PS I totally still stand by this list.
     
  17. dwatts

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    1. Halloween III is not only over-rated, it's pretty horrible with a laughably inept climax.

    2. Devils Rejects is a mean, misogynistic mess that does nothing but pander to the lowest forms of entertainment - it far worse than any so called "Torture Porn" flick.

    3. Hostel has more humor, better Grand Guignol gore, and more soul than Devils Rejects.

    4. The majority of horror flicks made in the 80's have aged terribly, they look worse than cinema of the 30's.

    5. You know, Lugosi's Dracula IS better than the Spanish version, whose Dracula looks like someone auditioning for Seinfeld.

    6. Romero has been washed so far up the beach he's likely to get hit by cars.

    7. Hooper has been washed so far up the beach he's almost hit an altitude record.

    8. The Spiderman films are ALL pretty naff.

    9. Lord of the Rings is too long. And the FX aren't all that.

    10. Tarantino is just a loud mouth, with loud films. His self-promotion is ceaseless, annoying, and is the main point of all he does.

    11. Ju-On is a BORING film with no scares.

    12. The Eye is J-Horror for people who really prefer to be watching American Horror.

    13. Enough mainstream centered work already. Cronenberg needs to get back to what he does best.

    14. Ash is one of the most annoying characters in comedy (with a little horror splashed in).

    15. In fact, Bruce is a ninny, and hasn't done anything worth noting.

    16. Death Metal isn't music. It's an experience. Like being in a train wreck.

    17. Most people watch WAY TOO MUCH television.

    18. Lost, 24, Heroes, blah blah blah. All formulaic trash for the brain numb.

    19. No, Duran Duran weren't ever good.

    20. I know I should eat more vegetables. But sorry, meat tastes too good.

    21. I know I should be more green, but I like leaving my lights on and having a bigger car than I need.
     
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  18. allmessedup

    allmessedup It's beer time.

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    I wanted to just dig through the old thread, but gave up.

    Have to echo the others who dislike Asian horror, Japanese horror in particular.

    I can't offhand recall any J-horror film that I thought worked as a complete, coherent movie--they've always relied on a few key scenes, with the rest of it being like watching paint dry. Other than those key scenes, they have zero rewatchability for me--pretty much the reason chapter skip was invented. I have liked a few of the films from other Asian countries, but something about how the Japanese put movies together just doesn't work for me at all.

    Although I like it much more than I used to, I will always consider DAY OF THE DEAD to be the weakest of Romero's zombie films, yes, even including LAND OF THE DEAD. I think it's become almost common for people to say "it's underrated." It's gotten to the point where it's the majority opinion is to like DAY the best, but I never have.

    I've never liked the original BLACK CHRISTMAS all that much, but I did enjoy the remake.

    Never liked DEAD ALIVE or ARMY OF DARKNESS. Really only like the first EVIL DEAD, and even that I consider to be pretty overrated.

    I like the RESIDENT EVIL series, especially the second one because it has more zombie action in it. I don't give a rat's ass how it compares to the video game.

    I view Argento's movies more as film school exercises than real films. Some of his movies look good and have interesting moments, but I've never considered his work to be among the best of the genre. I prefer Fulci.

    DRACULA (1931) is probably the weakest of the classic horror films and has not stood the test of time. Even the weakest films in the other classic franchises are much better.

    I have never understood why MAY and the GINGER SNAPS films have such a following.

    Although I think I may have finally reached a saturation point so that I don't want to watch it again for a while, I think DAWN OF THE DEAD (2004) is probably one of the better horror films of this decade.

    Speaking of the original DAWN, I think NOTLD is the superior film, but not by much. Actually, although I've liked most of Romero's films, I think his best film was his first one.

    28 DAYS LATER has a good first half but the second half completely ruins it. I consider it one of the most disappointing horror movies in recent years as far as what *could* have been done with it. The sequel has weak points, but is 100 times better.
     
  19. allmessedup

    allmessedup It's beer time.

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    Oh, and I don't know how unpopular this is, but I thought DEATH PROOF was one of the worst films I've seen in recent years, and this is coming from someone who has liked Tarrantino's other work. I think if someone else had made this film most of its supporters would say it was a piece of shit.
     
  20. rxfiend

    rxfiend Joe Six-Pack

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    I think Eli Roth is great and love his movies, same as Rob Zombie.

    :D
     

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