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  1. DVD-fanatic-9

    DVD-fanatic-9 And the Next Morning, When the Campers Woke Up...

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    Give me a break, Angel. It's Natas. He takes everything I say as entertainment. Either there's nothing you can say to him that is wrong or he's putting on the world's bravest brave-face. Either way, he demanded it. I'm just the supplier.
     
  2. X-human

    X-human I ate my keys

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    Correct. And it's become something of the distinguishing line though don't you think? Movies about war, or crime, or action movies are about murder. But when you take these actions and start applying "a woman in danger" and it leans towards horrific. The character's sex often determine if the scene is "Horror" or not. It's the nature of the beast as they say. What's the difference between a Mystery, a Thriller, a Lifetime movie about rape and a Horror?

    A lot of Film Noir uses horror tropes and aesthetics, especially compared to contemporary films, and it becomes hard even now sometimes to take a modern thriller and decide between the Horror Shelf or the Mysteries/Thriller shelf. But if you're just following around a man, even if these are suspenseful situations, it doesn't seem to qualify as horror. Usually. Psycho is often considered the scale tipper in the history of horror cinema, and it was all about sex. The copy cats that weren't are considered thrillers, the copy cats that emphasized sex are thought of as Horror. Usually.

    Giallo are an excellent example of striding that line. Most of the run of the mill ones are pretty much dull drum mystery/thrillers but the good ones crank it up to 11 and go into Horror. And titillation is one of the prime characteristics. And those notables have defined the category as a whole. So they're mostly thought of as Horror.

    Frankly it ends up being defined much like porn is, "I know it when I see it." Coincidence?

    I forget if I like those or not... I kinda think I don't. And that's part of the problem with beers, these so called labels are mostly meaningless. If you were to go to Russia and hand a red one he'd probably ask, "What the fuck is this Capitalist dog shit suppose to be?"

    I do enjoy my hard liquors, so I rather like the barrel aged beers (when they're not hoppy, der) but yeah you could just toss in a shot of Jack and get the same effect so in the end I stopped bothering with them. And honestly I'd rather just drink the shot!

    The only beers I'll probably buy now are New Glarus when I drive through Wisconsin one or twice a year. Deys good shiiitt.
     
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    DVD-fanatic-9 And the Next Morning, When the Campers Woke Up...

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    However, what I said to Maybrick is also completely true. People say (their own variant on) stop the train when they see people get upset at depictions of sexual violence because they say the non-sexual violence is more extreme. But audiences' ability to relate to the experience of being torn limb-from-limb becomes greatly lesser (oxymoron, but I'm using it anyway) the more over-the-top the display.

    It's a real thing to be slapped across the face. It's also a real thing that it tends to happen to women under more personally abusive circumstances, to be committed either by men or family or spouses. And it happens extremely commonly. Same with rape and molestation. So... it's just not a competition. It isn't. Audiences know how it feels. Either personally, or they know someone who has to deal with the effects of it. And that's why I tend to look at scenes depicting rape / violation and molestation / harassment as objectively serious (and understand why many others do the same) and more of a problem, regardless of the tone of the film in question or how nasty the violence is.
     
  4. MisterTwister

    MisterTwister The Schlock King

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    This. This right here. Not only listen to this man mods, make him a fucking mod.

    It's take to take out the trash.
     
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    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    I'm just saying if people don't want to make peace then whatever happens happens. And I am also saying that right now I am fairly drunk and it is 5 am in Poland.
     
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    MisterTwister The Schlock King

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    Poland!? Oh good lord I thought you lived in the town next to mine...

    ...well whoever lives in the house where I thought you dwelled are sure as shit not going to appreciate the very revealing and weird nude pics I slipped into their mailbox.
     
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    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    I don't live in Poland, I just party here. I live in Santa Monica where everyone, including and especially me, is really fucking attractive and drives on streets of pure gold. Gold, I say.
     
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    Workshed a.k.a. Villyan Shit

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    What are you doing in Poland, besides drinking? Vacation?
     
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    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    Working. Film festival.
     
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    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    There's a big week long festival here centered around cameramen/women but lots of screenings, films, music videos. I've been here all week and leave Sunday. Along with TIFF, this may be my favorite. Sundance has kind of played itself out for me.
     
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    Matt89 Well-Known Member

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    I totally believe this.

    ~Matt
     
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    Workshed a.k.a. Villyan Shit

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    Sounds rad. Enjoy
     
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    MisterTwister The Schlock King

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    I prefer a shit ton of anthology films to the original Creepshow. I really dig the original Creepshow but the 2 hour run times keeps me from rewatching it often.
     
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  14. Natas

    Natas ....on the warm side of the dooooooor

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    Watched Tales from the Hood Friday night. It's better than Creepshow on literally every level.
     
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    MisterTwister The Schlock King

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    I prefer it as well.
     
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    DVD-fanatic-9 And the Next Morning, When the Campers Woke Up...

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    Tales from the Hood is definitely an excellent film. Overall. Though it does have some minor problems. Nothing major. The racist politician (redundant, eh?) living in the plantation house filled with killer dolls is not a good short. Not a bad one either. It's just Corbin Bernsen's performance... no. Just, no. The effects did not age well on the first short either, the police brutality one. Also... the freaky rehabilitation-prison short: they really need to explain why it seems like they were harvesting human bodies for some more-than-likely nefarious purpose. Why was that place so shady if they were actually trying to do the prisoners some good? They really bother to farm-in white knife-happy butcher-racists just as cage cattle to troll angry black people?

    Also... I'm about to get pretty heavy here, but I've recently started watching a lot of videos by black political scholars and I've really come to the conclusion that the style of preachy message-movie that we see in the last of the 4 stories is actually seriously problematic. Yes, almost anyone should be blamed for choosing to kill another person. But when you tell a black man that the problem is entirely in their hands to solve: that is, at the very least, misleading. The minute we see this guy "off the streets," we know he's smart enough to understand that the problem started with white supremacy. Not with magical black people who are too "Thug Life" for "The System" that perfectly delivers justice to control. Etc. A black killer with a gun in his hands is Not playing God. He or she is doing what systemic oppression and a white supremacist society is telling them to do. It's a bullshit, and VERY Spike Lee, philosophy that "the thing" that directs black anger from white enslavement to their fellow enslaved just... comes from nowhere. It's also the kind of thought that comes as a result of the same oppressive society that breeds the killing. We all can agree that getting the guns out of circulation is still Step #1 to helping come to anything close to a resolution of the problem. But a lot of people like Spike Lee don't seem interested in also confronting where society directed that black anger that it corrupted and perverted. That turned to self-hatred.

    Tales from the Hood was executive produced by Spike Lee, hence why it carries his same values which have been very problematic for a lot of black people who are tired of never getting films that take on the system. 2001's Bones with Snoop Dogg actually thought to ask the ultra-important question: where did the drugs come from? How did they get "in the ghetto"? They didn't ask the same question about guns. But it bares repeating.
     
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    Natas ....on the warm side of the dooooooor

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    The last segment of Tales from the Hood is a fucking riot. I love the montage of the boys in the hood getting wet up from the set up. "Born 2 Die" by Spice 1 gets played almost in its entirety during that segment. Shit is gansta. About as gangsta as it gets. Very fond memories of that soundtrack......a few buddies and I used an old playstation and a VCR to dub that song into an episode of Barney. Barney and half a dozen 6 years old bouncing to lyrics such as
    "You just mobb up on a nigga and shoot him in his motherfuckin' head
    And drag him out the car, and get your motherfuckin' mobb on
    Yeah motherfuckin' G shit jumpin off tonight
    Motherfuckin' fire, beotch!!"

    Yeah....you don't know comedy till you seen Barney get down to that shit
     
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    DVD-fanatic-9 And the Next Morning, When the Campers Woke Up...

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    I do believe the last words I would use to describe that lynching / killing spree montage are "fucking riot." On this, Spike Lee and co. were very right to treat it as tonally disturbing and heart-breaking.
     
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    Workshed a.k.a. Villyan Shit

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    Robin Hood: Men in Tights is never as funny as its title.
     
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    There were far worse video games made on the Atari 2600 than ET: The Extra Terrestrial, never mind on other platforms. Its reputation as the worst video game of all time is completely unwarranted and overblown.
     
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