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  1. lakini71

    lakini71 New Member

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    *Halloween H2O was the only worthwhile sequel to Carpenter's classic.

    *Wes Craven has made many more good films than John Carpenter.

    *300 was an awful movie.

    *I'd love to see a slasher film where Jill Schloelen dies a long, painful death in the first five minutes.

    *The Beyond is probably one of the worst horror films I've ever seen.

    *Zombie movies bore me to tears 99% of the time.

    *Sofia Coppola's movie suck, especially Lost in Translation.

    *I don't mind WB teens in horror films at all. I find it fun to watch them die.

    That's all for now...
     
  2. Matt89

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    [qupte=rockmjd]Family Guy sucks. Throwing together a bunch of pop culture references from the past doesn't make it a good show. The Simpsons is now like that too. It was good when it actually tried to tell a story, which is why King of the Hill is better than both.[/quote]

    The only thing that really bugs me about Family Guy is that they take some jokes WAYYYYYY too far. I wouldn't say it sucks, but it certainly isn't anything great. It's quite funny sometimes, though. Stewie's remaks kill me. The Simpsons has gone WAY downhill, I certainly agree with that. But South Park, now THAT is hysterical. It's gotten so much better over the years. It actually has a lot of wit.

    Hmm...I can't decide whether I agree with you or not on that one. But H20 definitely put the series back in line after it strayed WAYYYYY off course with its previous 4 sequels. I have to watch that one again.

    LOL I don't think I could disagree with you more on that one. Wes Craven's a terrible filmmaker.

    Sofia Coppola's movies suck, but Lost in Translation I think to be an exception. I can see why people don't like it, though. :D

    ~Matt
     
  3. Erick H.

    Erick H. Well-Known Member

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    Although it was a decent series,THE SOPRANOS was highly overrated,it was essentially Scosese Lite.
    CASINO is a better film than GOODFELLAS,the characters are smarter and the scope of the drama is bigger.
     
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  4. Angelman

    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    Yep. You know what I hate - people who make statements that they portray as fact but in reality are just opinion. If some makes a statement they claim as fact and can not back it up - that is LAME.

    Others (here I will contradict what I just said):

    The Misfits WALK AMONG US is better than anything the Beatles EVER released. Not even close. Seriously. Misfits > Beatles. AND the Misfits had more influence than the Beatles... just look around.

    Armaggedon is Michael Bay's best film and is the best sci-fi film of the 90s.

    Rigor Mortis started Death Metal.
     
  5. The Chaostar

    The Chaostar Johnny Hallyday forever

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    Word.

    The DEPARTED is Scorsese Lite too. But he had to win an Oscar, so...
     
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    NERD!!!! :lol:
     
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    The Misfits had more influence than the Beatles? :lol:
     
  8. Matt89

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    I KNOW!!!! :D

    ~Matt
     
  9. Angelman

    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    Don't jump to conclusions... think about that one. I look and listen today and the Beatles do not have NEARLY the reach of influence the Misfits do/did.
     
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    Okay, I've thought about it. Nope, The Beatles had far more influence than The Misfits. Hell, even if we're talking just Punk Rock, The Misfits were small potatoes compared to The Ramones.
     
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    Show me where the Beatles had influence. I'm serious. They were more popular but not influential. Sort of like the Backstreet Boys.

    Now think about what a force the Misfits were. Saying the Misfits were small potatoes compared to the Ramones is a reach. The Ramones were maybe more popular in their time, and were a great band, but the impact their legacy had I am dubious about.

    The Misfits influence is everywhere today. You don't realize but YOU YOURSELF are more influenced by the Misfits than the Beatles.

    :D
     
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    bwana the clown Supreme Ruler Of Sados

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    I don't think I've ever actually heard a Misfits song.
     
  13. Angelman

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    I've never seen a picture of Newton but his theories of Gravity still have had a lasting impact. Chances are you don't even realize how much the Misfits have added to our culture. You don't need to know the band to feel the influence.

    In fact, the Bwana sweatshirt is clearly inspired by the Misfits "Crimson Ghost" face-logo t-shirt that still sells like crazy and can be seen everywhere.

    Check for yourselves:

    http://images.cafepress.com/product/102823252v5_240x240_Front_Color-AshGrey.jpg

    and the Original:

    http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/TEE_CIND/MIS132~Hoodie-The-Misfits-Fiend-Skull-Posters.jpg

    Clearly, you have felt the influence.
     
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    Man, I'm a big Misfits fan and readily admit the huge influence on bands (especially heavier ones) that they've had, but more influential than the Beatles? That's just ridiculous.

    The Misfits were a fantastic band that wrote great songs and had a great image, but The Beatles were THE FUCKING BEATLES. Pretty much everyone from 1964 onwards was either directly or indirectly influenced by them in some way.
     
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    I know that is the conventional thinking... but explain how. If it is ridiculous, please elaborate. The Beatles were pop music. Phenomenally successful, for sure. Great songwriters.

    The Misfits brought a whole new aesthetic and approach to music to the forefront.

    I mean this sincerely: please give examples of Beatle influence.
     
  16. X-human

    X-human I ate my keys

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    What? Hell The Beyond wouldn't even make it into a Top 10 Worst of Fulci Horror Films list. :D

    Oh, here's another one. Not only is Stephen King overrated, he's a pretty terrible writer overall. I should know, I've read half of 'em. ;)
     
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    Beatles influence (in point form):

    - the use of a studio as a way of creating sounds rather than just traditional recording of instruments

    - the use of multi-tracking to create soundscapes that couldn't exist outside that realm (hence the respect Sgt. Pepper receives even though Revolver, Rubber Soul, Abbey Road and the white album all have better songs)

    - invention of a process known as "flange" for thicker and more varied sounds on guitars, drums, etc. Flanger pedals for guitarists are now extremely common, showing up on everything from early Van Halen to crazier noisecore stuff

    - the notion of a band as a self-contained songwriting unit as opposed to being a performing group with outside songwriters (ie. Phil Spector's stuff and almost every Motown act, all of which was current at the time)

    - the kicking off of the "British Invasion" and the subsequent success of bands like The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Faces, even resulting in Jimi Hendrix's success later, as well as Led Zeppelin

    - while the use of an orchestra in pop music wasn't unheard of (Buddy Holly did it before The Beatles and they openly admit they got the idea from him), they were the ones that really made it popular

    - Paul McCartney attempted to "out-heavy" The Who and wrote "Helter Skelter" which, aside from influencing Charles Manson, also provoked Pete Townshend to go heavier and resulted in proto punk acts like The MC5 and The Stooges

    Plus, the OBVIOUS one:

    - innumerable bands and musicians who were either influenced at the time (ie. Brian Wilson, Jimmy Page) or decades afterwards to pick up instruments and start bands (ie. almost every major band of the past 40 years) because of them.

    The Misfits did what pretty much every other punk band in the mid-to-late 1970s did, which was to recreate the sound of 1950s garage bands in a faster, noisier way. The Ramones all had long hair and leather jackets while The Misfits went a different way and were directly influenced by 1950s sci-fi and horror and wore what were essentially costumes. This wasn't exactly new as Alice Cooper, David Bowie, The New York Dolls and others had done something similar.

    The Misfits influenced a lot of kids because they were really dark and offensive, stuff which teenagers really dig. They also happened to write really great, catchy songs and packaged it all in a really cool presentation of image and atmosphere.

    I'm sorry, but when I listen to most music, be it metal, punk, pop, rock, etc., I can hear "A Day in the Life" much more than I hear "London Dungeon". I think a lot of people REALLY DIG The Misfits, but I think everyone that plays a guitar or is in any kind of band is a sum of The Beatles' influence.

    It's kinda like that Simpsons film about zinc, you never realize the hugely broad influence they had unless it suddenly ceased to exist.
     
  18. Workshed

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    Even Che Guevara felt The Misfits' vast influence:

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  19. Angelman

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    I will give you this but this is kind of an invisible contribution.

    Multi-tracking existed in the 40s. I'm not sure that the soundscape argument makes the cut as even now multi-tracking is mostly used the way it was used pre-Beatles.

    The flange pedal is probably one of the more obscure effects. Its like saying Tom Morello popularized the digitech Whammy, which he did... but who cares?

    Can't argue this.

    Hrm. Not sure how much respect to give them here. The same as say, Nirvana for blowing up Seattle, or Metallica the SF scene or Death the Florida scene or...

    Is it popular?

    What about Cream, Blue Cheer?

    Plus, the OBVIOUS one:

    I don't know. That is like saying Elvis made everyone want to be frontmen or... I don't know. Hard to prove that causal chain. The Beatles actually make me want to put down a guitar.

    True Cooper, Bowie and NY Dolls definitely set the stage. But they were rooted in glam and classic rock. The Misfits were a game-changer. I won't argue with the Ramones point. Also a very influential band.

    Exactly. You can't tell me about esoteric things like multi-tracking and flange effects then dismiss an entire aesthetic like that. The black hair, the torn black clothes, the DIY movement, Earth A.D. as violent fusion of punk and metal, combining NY art-punk with a Warhol sensibility, goth culture, punk culture, metal culture, horror punk, rockabilly. To simply say they were offensive misses the point.

    I would disagree. I hear VERY LITTLE of the Beatles. Guns and Roses, Metallica, Green Day, Nine Inch Nails... I hear Misfits, not Beatles. Granted, I'm talking rock here, but where are the Beatles?

    Sort of like with the Misfits?

    And just so you know I realize I am taking a contrary position here, hence posting under "unpopular opinions"...:)
     
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    Che was a HUGE Misfits fan.
     

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