Upgrade or hold out - The List

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  1. Fistfuck

    Fistfuck Slowest to 2000 posts

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    So like many of you, I'm at or approaching the age where disposable funds are not in as high supply as they once were. Hell, for my generation, they may have never been there in the first place. Whereas I once dropped $20-25 for a brand new DVD, sight-unseen, I now agonize over a $9 upgrade to Blu-ray. Often it comes down to: is the picture and sound quality a sufficient enough improvement that the inevitable future double dip will not be so tempting, or am I better off holding onto my DVD?

    I'd like to keep a running list going of discs which are in question. For example, I'm debating on Escape from New York now. It's definitely cheap enough, but reviews of the picture quality have been anything but rave. Should I hold onto my MGM SE DVD, banking on a Cundey-approved transfer down the line?

    Escape from New York [US]: Yes: 1 No: 1
    Escape from New York [UK]: Yes: 0 No: 1
    The Fog [UK]: Yes: 0 No: 1
     
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    russweiss Well-Known Member

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    I am hesitant too about upgrading titles from DVD to blu-ray. My normal price range is $10-$12 although I have paid more for some titles. When the price is under $10.00 (as Escape From New York is) I pick it up unless it's received terrible quality reviews. In some cases I have to keep the DVD anyway when all the extras haven't been ported to the blu otherwise they go into a "sell" pile for Ebay.
     
  3. Jeremy

    Jeremy Closet SCREAM fan

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    If you have to stand there in the store wrestling with yourself over a $10 upgrade, then the answer to whether you should buy it is almost certainly no. Recently I've drastically cut back on my disc purchases, partly for financial reasons, partly because I was accumulating too much stuff that just sits unwatched on the shelf. So I've gone back to a purchasing system that I used in college when I had a similar problem. Back then I decided to limit my disc purchases to sixteen per calendar year, four every quarter. I stuck with it for three and a half years and I found that it allowed my collection to be much more manageable. At that point I was still upgrading my VHS collection and a lot of the things that I bought were upgrades - GAMERA VS. ZIGRA, INVISIBLE INVADERS/JOURNEY TO THE SEVENTH PLANET, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOUR DAUGHTERS, BEACH RED, ISLAND OF THE FISHMEN - all upgrades from tape, and then there were a few like EATEN ALIVE (Shriek Show) and THE GREAT ESCAPE (R2 SE) that were upgrades from both VHS and earlier DVDs. I found that limiting my purchases allowed me to make better decisions about what to get and what not to get. This time around though I don't imagine I will be upgrading to that many Blu-Rays, I think that in most cases the DVDs will hold me over.
     
  4. msw7

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    Movies that I will definitely upgrade (assuming I still want to own the title in question) are any for which the DVD did not have an anamorphic transfer.

    I'm also upgrading if the special features are better/new, or if the DVD case takes up a lot of space on the shelf, and the blu-ray is cheap enough to make trades like that worth it (sub $5 per disk).

    For my very favorite movies, I will upgrade if the picture is at least as good as the DVD.

    Otherwise I'm trying to hold off. I really don't want to re-buy everything I had on DVD on blu-ray, that would be pointless. Movies that I buy now I'm buying blu-ray only unless there is a DVD-only release with no chance of a blu ray in the near future.

    If I'm not going to watch the movie at least several more times, there's no point for me to upgrade. I might as well just keep the DVD and get rid of it when I'm tired of the movie.
     
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    Best Buy currently has Upgrade & Save going on at the moment. Bring in your old DVD to the service desk, and they'll give you a coupon for $5 off the blu-ray (as long as it's carried in stores). It doesn't even have to be the same movie, just bring in an old DVD you don't need anymore.

    I love when they have this promotion, because I had a lot of junk DVDs I've been meaning to get rid of but they're only selling for pennies on eBay and Amazon marketplace. I grabbed National Lampoon's Vacation and the Jurassic Park movies this week, and I'm sure I'll be back in there next week to pick up more.

    As for Escape From New York, it's an MGM release, so a Scream Factory release is perhaps a possibility? I'd probably wait, but to be honest I'm not really a huge fan of the film. So that's just me.
     
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    I would hold off on Escape from NY. The PQ isn't much better and it's missing all the features from the DVD SE. It's only a matter of time before, as Cpt_Hook mentioned, Scream gets a hold of it and releases a proper Blu-ray.
     
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    Yeah, my disposable income is getting smaller and smaller.

    I've actually been debating if I should get the upcoming Crystal Lake Memories blu-ray or just get the book instead.
     
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    I've pretty much upgraded all my DVD's to Blu-Ray over the last 6 years. (Approx 1500-1700 titles) Funnily enough the only 2 which I wouldn't class as an upgrade are the UK versions of Escape From New York & The Fog, Both are upscales and look like shit!

    Now the US Blu of Escape looks marvelous in comparison, The PQ is excellent and the disc has a maxed out bitrate. The Audio is also first rate for a film of it's budget and vintage.


    I'd say upgrade, I can't see Scream Factory getting this any time soon as the remake is in development again and MGM will be holding onto it to no doubt release it again to coincide.
     
  9. Fistfuck

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    Thanks for contributing, guys. I'll update these as people respond and offer other films.
     
  10. msw7

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    Titles that I've upgraded in the past year:
    Fascination
    Martyrs
    Serenity
    Conan the Barbarian
    Street Trash
    Dodgeball
    My Cousin Vinny
    The Thing
    Super Troopers
    Alien Anthology
    Sex and Zen
    Battlestar Galactica (new series)
    Donnie Darko
    Lifeforce
    Return of the Living Dead
    Re-animator
    From Beyond
    Night of the Demons 2
    Evil Dead 2
    The Matrix
    Firefly (the complete series)

    planned upgrades:
    Devil's Backbone
    Oldboy
    American Werewolf in London
    The Big Lebowski
    Dressed to Kill
    Big Trouble in Little China
    Audition
    In the Mouth of Madness
    Ghostbusters
    Austin Powers International Man of Mystery
    Enter the Dragon
     
  11. Shannafey

    Shannafey Don't Monkey With Me!

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    I'm in the same boat. I have 3 kids and a lot of expenses. I used to buy DVDs like crazy and now I actually buy more DVDs because I never pay more than $3-5 for them. As for Blus, I only buy it if I really want it and usually don't upgrade, unless it is something I love or VERY CHEAP!! Even if it is $10, I don't upgrade.
     
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    Because of the "wasted" money on rushing to get dvd's close to release date, I now refuse to buy any Blu-Rays at initial high prices. Some titles from Scream Factory rarely come down in price, but for the most part I won't pay over $10 for a Blu movie. If I have it already on DVD, I do major research on picture/sound quality before I even think about an upgrade.
     
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  13. Fistfuck

    Fistfuck Slowest to 2000 posts

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    Mah nigga.

    Hopefully we can start getting some more feedback on this thread, more people asking about certain titles, to help ones such as your- and myself to make more informed decisions.
     
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    Here's an example:

    Body Double (1984)

    I don't own any media version of this movie. There is the original DVD, a Special Edition DVD, and Twilight Times Limited edition Blu-Ray

    *Average prices

    DVD - $9 - $12 (both 1:85 & 4:3 versions included)
    SE DVD - $18 - $23 (digitally remastered)
    TT Blu - $35 Limited to 3000

    The TT is a lot of money, "hopefully" it will be the best version. Plus it's limited. The $35 price tag is the only deterrent. But looking at the SE DVD version price, it's seems to be the better value in the long run.

    Comparison between the 2 DVD's (not the Blu)

    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdreviews25/body_double.htm

    Looks like both DVD are almost identical. The advantage of the SE is the special features, but for double the price? If one didn't care about the special features, I would go with the first release. Seems like that "digitally remastered" was just a slight improvement.
     
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    Fistfuck Slowest to 2000 posts

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    I'm wondering how well some of the diffuse-filtered films of the 70s and 80s are going to fair on Blu. Since the very nature of the look is lacking in definition, will the upgrade be worth it in cases such as De Palma?
     
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    A comparison for you to check out.

    http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews51/escape_from_new_york_blu-ray.htm

    Seems like the US is the better choice, but I'm on the fence. The UK is brighter in some scenes, but the US looks more natural in a couple of those screen captures imo.

    Also: From Scream a few weeks ago.

    https://www.facebook.com/ScreamFactoryDVD/posts/288546604615691
     
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    I've been largely successful in keeping strictly to upgrading titles I watch multiple times. In fact, upgrades are close to all of my blu-ray purchases. So needless to say my number of purchases are way down, and in fact i'm actively trying to pare down my dvd collection of non-essentials. My number of blind buys are down to almost nil and i can only think of 3 of them in the past 3 years: Captain America, Woman in Black, and Forbidden Zone. Oh yeah, and Hausu. When blind buys are concerned, I only stick to things that I absolutely know beyond doubt that I will love.

    I thought the PQ for Escape From NY was great, but for me it was never an upgrade and I got it for free.
     
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