Wes Craven: Hero or Hack?

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What is your opinion on Wes Craven?

Poll closed Jul 13, 2005.
  1. He is a great director

    13 vote(s)
    11.4%
  2. He has some masterpieces but some stinkers too

    62 vote(s)
    54.4%
  3. He's okay

    7 vote(s)
    6.1%
  4. He has more misses than hits

    25 vote(s)
    21.9%
  5. He's totally overrated

    7 vote(s)
    6.1%
  1. rhett

    rhett Administrator

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    Of all the big horror directors, no director seems to split audiences the way Wes Craven does. For all the people that dub THE LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT and SCREAM masterpieces, there are just as many who absolutely loathe the films. While his ELM STREET films seem to get a more universal praise, most of the other films in his body of work also receive a similar polar batch of opinions. So what will it be, is Craven a great director or one that is extremely overrated?
     
  2. Mok

    Mok Family is Forever

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    Mmmm, overrated for me, but the Elm Street films are classic. The first film is really solid, and there isn't even very much Freddy in that.
     
  3. Ash28M

    Ash28M Active Member

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    I would lean toward hero. I wouldn't put him in the top of the list but he has made a lasting impact on the Horror genre.

    Classics

    The Last House on the Left
    The Hills Have Eyes
    A Nightmare On Elm Street

    Other notable above average contributions

    Scream
    New Nightmare
    The Serpent and the Rainbow
    The People Under the Stairs
    Deadly Blessing
     
  4. Nemesis

    Nemesis Guest

    i'd have called him a hero.. but he lends his name to too many horrible films these days
     
  5. Doombear

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    The opening Drew Barrymore scene in Scream is a classic piece of cinema. Scream 2 (though hated by many) was my favorite. Scream 3 was no fun; not clever, hip or scary.

    Nightmare on Elm Street 1 & 3 are works of art. 7 had tons of originality.

    From his movies, you can tell he is a great fan of horror films too. He's one of us! I don't think he's out to screw us with his productions like some movie makers.

    His films have followed very much like John Carpenter's, but different directing style and more of a polished edge than Carpenter.

    I simply adore The People Under the Stairs, even though it is considered flawed and uneven. The Serpent and the Rainbow was a load of fun.

    Most horror fans know him for what he is, and appreciate it. I think most of the media and general public tend to overrate him. Some of the works he has been Executive Producer on have not turned out so well.
     
  6. Franco

    Franco Weekender

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    He has some masterpieces but some stinkers too -like many. It's a pity that directors don't take care about their reputation at 100%.
     
  7. _pi_

    _pi_ Peace, bitch

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    Although I do consider him a great director, the "has made some masterpieces but some stinkers too" option is a bit more appropriate.

    But I did enjoy Cursed, if only becuse I could glimpse at what was probably originally conceived, and a new Craven film is always something to get excited over imo.
     
  8. Ash28M

    Ash28M Active Member

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    Although done so much better in Black Christmas, When a stranger Calls and When a Stranger calls back.
     
  9. Spacevis

    Spacevis There's some Dettol in the jeep!

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    I think sometimes they don't have a choice if they wanna stay with their head above water. He made some classics and some stinkers, but hey, many great directors have masterpieces and stinkers.
     
  10. tobaccoman

    tobaccoman White, Proud, and Stupid

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    And that's why when they do hit the spot, we call them their "masterpiece"!

    Masterpieces and stinkers for me. Although more misses than hits fits well also. Especially when considering his producing record, but I'll keep it to direction where all of his movies have at least some redeeming value.
     
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  11. dwatts

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    More hits than misses. I can't totally write the guy off, because Last House on the Left is a genre masterpiece. Hills have Eyes was great too. People Under the Stairs, which I watched recently, almost forced me to click "overrated", but I just remember the two films mentioned above to get me over that.

    Basically, today, Craven isn't significant at all.
     
  12. onebyone

    onebyone Guest

    I went with "he has some masterpieces but some stinkers too," because well, He has some masterpieces but some stinkers too.
     
  13. Mattster

    Mattster Guest

    Agreed. A lot of people often include films that aren't even his when they consider his filmography. He has a lot of producer credits that often lead to his name being plastered on the poster.
     
  14. Nemesis

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    which is why i said "but he lends his name to too many horrible films these days" several posts above ;)
     
  15. Mattster

    Mattster Guest

    You know I never read any of your posts. :D
     
  16. KillerCannabis

    KillerCannabis Slow, Deep & Hard

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    I admit (and agree) he's got some stinkers, but my vote went to him being a great director because he is. When you think of veteran genre directors, his name always comes up. He's had his missteps for sure, but he's made a lot of good contributions to horror and for that I consider him to be a great director.
     
  17. KGBRadioMoskow

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    Hills Have Eyes, Last House on the Left, Serpent and the Rainbow. Thats about it for me, in descending order of quality, and the first two mainly for simply having that "one of the first to do this" factor. Scream I found dull, old hat, and grossly over-rated. I don't know what film people who claimed it breathed new life and originality into the slasher genre were watching, it obviously wasn't the tired hack job (pun intended) I suffered through. A couple of the Nightmare films had some moments, flashes of interesting concepts (and Robert Englund is always fun on screen), but only just enough to redeem them to the point where I didn't consider them a waste of $10 and two hours of my life I'll never get back.

    Basically everything Craven has done I'm forced to compare with other, better films - some done before, some done since - and conclude he deserves some credit for laying the groundwork a bit for other film makers but not enough for me to shell out time or money on most of his works. And to those who would consider him to be a "more polished" John Carpenter, repent ye heretics! You can toss down the three worst films Carpenter has made, and I'd be hard pressed to watch Craven's best three instead. Considering that's putting questionables like Vampires, Ghosts of Mars, and Village of the Damned on the list - not to mention outright sludge like Escape from LA - that's saying something. About the only thing Craven and Carpenter have in common is that their best films are clearly in their past, not their present or future.
     
  18. speanroc

    speanroc I WANNA BAN

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    i agree w/ ash
     
  19. hell ya!

    hell ya! ~Go ahead, make my day~

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    He has more misses than hits.

    Last House and The Hills Have Eyes are two of the best horror films of all time and NOES is a fantastic film as well. Other than thoes 3 the rest range from ok to crap.
     
  20. KamuiX

    KamuiX The Eighth Samurai

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    He's completely overrated. He's made 3 or 4 worthwhile films in nearly a 30 year career. That says to me he just got lucky a few times...
     

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