Worst Hellraiser Sequel

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What's the worst Hellraiser sequel?

Poll closed Nov 24, 2012.
  1. Hellbound: Hellraiser II

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  2. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth

    1 vote(s)
    1.5%
  3. Hellraiser: Bloodline

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  4. Hellraiser: Inferno

    3 vote(s)
    4.5%
  5. Hellraiser: Hellseeker

    5 vote(s)
    7.6%
  6. Hellraiser: Deader

    3 vote(s)
    4.5%
  7. Hellraiser: Hellworld

    7 vote(s)
    10.6%
  8. Hellraiser: Revelations

    18 vote(s)
    27.3%
  9. I gave up on the series after the first few flicks.

    21 vote(s)
    31.8%
  10. Hellraiser? That some kind of hair removal product?

    4 vote(s)
    6.1%
  1. Rft183

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    I've just recently watched most of the sequels. For the most part, I've enjoyed them all. The problem I have with them is that they all seem to run together. I can't remember which is which! I specifically remember the first and second ones, but after that, it's just a mish-mash (kind of what some of the cenobites look like!)
     
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    after this years franchise harvest i decided to watch all the Rick Bota-helmed sequels, which i had kind of forgotten about. i'd hated inferno when it first came out, and had passed on the next three when it seemed like they were more of the same. but now i can actually offer an opinion on the last three sequels (not counting revelations, which doesn't seem like it should be considered cannon without Bradley).

    Hellseeker - this one was ok, and probably the best of the 3 directed by Rick Bota. Everything that doesn't have Kirsty in it feels like a retread of Inferno (at least, what I remember inferno being about, since i haven't seen it in over a decade). i found the main portion focusing on Kirsty's husband tollerable, but not really that engaging. I mean, the bottom line is that the guy is obviously a douchebag, even if he doesn't remember it at first, so its hard to feel any sympathy and thus any actual suspense about what will eventually happen to him. Ashley Laurence didn't disappoint, though - she's a great actor, and she plays her part with a lot of conviction. The years have also been very kind to her, as I think she looked even prettier in this than she did in the first two. So the first 5 minutes and the last 10 are definitely the high points of the film. Although, as soon as the relationship between Kirsty and Pinhead is revealed at the end, I couldn't help but think about their exchange in Hellbound when Pinhead (or was it the female cenobite?) tells Kirsty that they're not interested in making any more deals with her. What happened to that? Oh well. This one wasn't so bad.

    Deader - I can see why some people hate this one even more than Hellworld, since its just such a storytelling mess and makes absolutely no sense. But there are some decent performances (I like Kari Wuhrer, she was the best thing about Anaconda), and the subway train is entertainingly sleazy. Also, since this one is actually SET in Romania, the cinematography is allowed a little bit of room to breathe in the exteriors, which was nice. A bit more gore and nudity isn't enough to save this one, though, since the story is just so terrible. By the end of it, despite trying my best to pay attention, I had no idea what the hell was supposed to be happening. I just read Chunkblowers review, and he mentions a sequence at the end in an insane asylum. try as i might, i have no memory of that scene at all. so that goes to show just how successful I was at following the stupid thing. Also, did anybody else notice that this was produced by Stan Winston? What the hell is that about? Was he attached to the initial spec script, and just ended up with his name stuck on the thing? Weird.

    Hellworld - as completely schizophrenic as Deader was, at least it wasn't aggressively bad. The characters are so smugly annoying in this one, the story so insultingly bad and pandering and desperate-to-be-hip, that this has now supplanted Inferno as my vote for worst sequel (still haven't seen Revelations, though). Poor Lance Henrickson. Poor Henry Cavill. the online game was beyond stupid, both as a plot point and in its actual execution, the self-aware wannabe-meta aspect of having all the characters know about cenobites and the lament configuration, etc. was grating, and the final "twist" was moronic. Oh, and why the hell did they keep calling it the "lamont" configuration? ugh. BAD.

    when i watched the children of the corn series a year or so ago, i eventually forced myself to watch the syfy remake, despite it not really being a part of the series. due to the purely commercial inspiration and lack of Doug Bradley, I would consider Revelations to be likewise apart from the actual Hellraiser series. However, i still feel like i should watch it, so i at least can have a legitimate opinion. so, at some point, that will have to happen. we'll see if that can bump Hellworld from the bottom spot.
     
  3. DVD-fanatic-9

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    Yes it was.

    (Sorry.)
     
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    I've forgotten almost all about these films. I had to read my synopses to recall anything. You may hold Deader in lower esteem than I did, but I still say Hellworld was worse. From what I remember....
     
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    There's nothing worse than a movie's pretentiousness mixed with self-seriousness (well: short, in certain cases, of being racist, sexist, etc). Deader was that all over. Hellworld was just goofy.
     
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    You know some people didn't see the later sequel's when 2-4 gets some votes.

    I've mentioned this before but from memory I'd go with Hellseeker being the worst as they brought back Ashley Laurence and did nothing with her, instead shoehorning her into an unrelated script that got a Hellraiser title splapped on it. It could have been a return to form but instead it was the biggest Hellraiser disappointment I've seen.
     
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    I dunno- I really hated Hellbound. (Though, I'm rewatching that this week.)

    But, Hell on Earth was a lot of fun. Very dumb. And, I agree the invented new Cenobites were the result of nobody trying. It was just: leather straps, corpsish bluish white makeup, and a weapon embedded in either their head or their hands: cigarettes, CD's, a camera, etc. But it represents easily the best of Dimension's trademark sleek, flashy production values. They could actually afford to execute some pretty impressive action scenes, explosions, the chains whipping everywhere, blades piercing skin, etc. When I was talking about how much the gore scenes in Wishmaster blew, I was remembering how much I loved the ones in the night club scene in Hell on Earth. Also: I really liked that the story revolved around 2 women and the black haired young girl trying to trust her but thinking maybe she couldn't.

    Though, on the negative side... I know it was 1992, but the metal music wasn't really in-tune with the sound of the time. The band playing should have sounded more like Ride or Pavement or Pearl Jam or Unrest or Alice in Chains or The Stone Roses. Less like Motorhead, Iron Maiden, etc.

    The only thing that really stood out about Bloodline was that Pinhead's plot was seriously like Rita Repulsa in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. "After 10,000 years, I'm free! It's time to conquer Earth!"
     
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    I don't think Hellbound's perfect. It used to bother be that a lot of people seem to say it's their favourite Hellraiser. It definitely feels a little disjointed at times and I'm not sure I like the humanisation of the Cenobites. It was a cool concept but I feel like it may have come too soon and could have been saved for the following sequel. That being said they definitely expand on the lore which I do love, such as how Cenobites are created and Leviathan. It makes for some very interesting concepts and visuals. If Hellraiser were to be remade (and in a grand scale with a big budget) I'd definitely hope they went to Hellbound for inspiration as I think there's a lot to explore and be expanded on.

    Hell on Earth is fun but suffers from some pretty bad acting. I always found that made it a little harder to watch. Thankfully there's lots of cool gore gags and Pinhead gets to have some great speeches which is what makes me come back to it.

    I really enjoy Bloodline. I think Pinhead has some great lines in that one, especially whilst taking to Angelique mentioning how hell has become more ordered since her time and commenting on the visual expression of their suffering were all nice touches that felt very Hellraiser. All that lore interests me which is why I hate the films after Bloodline as they ignore that aspect entirely.
     
  9. ImmortalSlasher

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    I finally watched the last Hellraiser and like many have said it is the worst one. I intend on making a review soon. This was my review when I watched all the Hellraiser movies during the October topic a few years ago.

    The 2014 Annual October Horror Movie Watching Thread!!!
     
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    I liked that at least Revelations tried to go back to the old Hellraiser formula. Sadly it was just rushed (I think it was filmed in a week or less), had terrible acting and a tiny budget.
     

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