YouTube: Man Upset Over Lucky McKee's The Woman

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  1. Demoni

    Demoni Active Member

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    Just for curiosity... because the movie sucks and it is stupid.
     
  2. Wez4555

    Wez4555 Happy Trees Motherfucker!

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    I saw this the other day and thought it was pretty good. Not great but good. It also seems awfully simular to another movie by the name of Jessicka Rabid. Which was made sometime before it.
     
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    aoiookami Demon Fetishist

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    Agreed completely MS.
     
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    Saw this yesterday, It took a few minutes to get a grasp of were the film was going but by the end I thought it was great. it's a dark film along the lines of Ketchum 's The Girl Next Door but with the some of quirkiness you've come to expect from Mckee. I thought it was well done, engaging and very original.
     
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    MorallySound Mad Mutilator

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    Contradictory, don't you think? :D

    Same structure as The Girl Next Door, different location/time. Far from original.
     
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    will probably pick this up tuesday walmart should have it for 15.00 in stores its on their website for that price and walmart has carried every bloody-disgusting selects dvd released thus far.
     
  8. Ash28M

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    Nah it did have elements of the Girl Next Door and a similar tone but I thought the story itself and where it went with it's concept was original.
     
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    My copy from Netflix arrives tomorrow. This is the last chance I'm giving Lucky McKee. May was ok, but not great. Good enough for me to check out The Woods, which I hated, and his MoH episode was uninteresting too.

    If I don't like this, I'll probably add McKee to the list of directors whose films I'll pretty much ignore.
     
  10. bigdaddyhorse

    bigdaddyhorse Detroit Hi-on

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    I almost hated The Woods when I first saw it, but still kept a dub around just in case. Last week I had an urge and watched it again, this time really enjoying it. Not sure if I was looking for a different movie the first time or what, but it's one that grew on me. Certainly nothing very original, but still enjoyable.
    Do you like fucked up jack Ketchum films? If not, you probably won't like the Woman either.
     
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    Man, some of you guys are crazy. The Woman is easily McKee's best film (although since I'm not a fan of any of his other work, that's not exactly high praise). Also, I've never seen anything else Ketchum-based (I think, repeat I THINK I read Off Season way back in high school, but that's before most people here were even born), so if this is derivative of other films based on his material, I wouldn't know. I just know that I really enjoyed The Woman, and found it very disturbing.

    One thing I wasn't sure of, and this is possibly 'cause my vision is messed up and have trouble with very fast editing scenes, did they actually reveal that
    the dad is the father of Peg's baby?
    It looked like there was a reveal of that in some of the quickly edited climactic action scene, and it was certainly alluded to (if not outright obvious), I just wonder if it was plainly shown.
     
  12. CPT HOOK

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    *SPOILERS*
    Yes. I read the book last summer, and I agree that it wasn't very clear in the movie. Also, in the book the blind child in the barn was their first child. I don't recall there being much of an explanation as to what the thing in the barn was in the movie.

    I thought the movie was just okay. The role of the teacher for horribly miscast.

    If you liked The Woman, I would highly recommend checking out The Girl Next Door and The Lost, both excellent adaptations.
     
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    The sequel to The Woman titled Darlin' will be on VOD July 12th!

    This time it's directed by The Woman herself, Pollyanna McIntosh, who has established herself as a pretty amazing character actress in the wake of these films. LOVE her!

     
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    Myron Breck BOO!!! Gotcha!

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    Thanks, CPT, I had no idea this was happening--great excuse to revisit the first movie.
     
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    Darlin' will be available on VOD tomorrow. Blu-ray release on September 3rd.

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    I revisited my blu-rays of both Offspring and The Woman as a refresher. To be honest, neither movie is very good, but what they did for me is they brought the books back fully into my mind without having to go back and re-read them. Both are very faithful adaptations. I can also understand why they'd want to explore "The Woman" character, because Pollyanna McIntosh is terrific. She has established herself as a pretty amazing character actress in the years since, I especially liked her performance in Hap & Leonard.

    Something interesting about Offspring, obviously we all recognize Amy Hargreaves (Brainscan, Blue Ruin, 13 Reasons Why, Super Dark Times), Art Hindle (Black Christmas), and the author himself Jack Ketchum. Someone I didn't recognize was Holter Graham, who plays a cop assisting Art Hindle's character. He was the kid from Maximum Overdrive! He's worked with both King and Ketchum!

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    As for The Woman, Sean Bridgers took on an extremely similar and equally disturbing role in the Oscar nominated Room.

    It's funny, I lived a few hours away from where they filmed Offspring at the time. The local film commission hated the movie so much, they declined to let the production company return for The Woman, which was relocated to Massachusetts.
     
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    Im chalking up that dudes reaction to white rich guy entitlement with a soupcon of good ol altitude sickness.
     
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    I'm really not sure what to make of Darlin'.

    From a production standpoint, it's probably the best-made film of the trilogy. However, it's a tonal mess and way too all over the place. It's also a slow burn, and the pay-off isn't as wild or satisfying as The Woman.

    It's especially interesting looking back at The Woman, because that was 2011 and they tackled just about everything the #metoo movement put into the spotlight, only to an extreme. I don't think it's a coincidence this series was resurrected so soon post-#metoo, only now with a female writer/director and a less sexually exploitative approach than the previous films. The focus in The Woman was primarily gender roles in society and female repression, told through the actions of the typical right-wing Catholic family. Darlin' pretty much covers the same ground, only this time Pollyanna McIntosh has zeroed in on the Catholic aspect of the equation.

    I found "the woman" to be a genuinely terrifying presence in Offspring and The Woman, so it is a little startling how she is played for comedy here. There wasn't a moment in this film I was scared of her or Darlin'. Anytime "the woman" is around someone in the previous films, they are not safe. Here, she is around lots of people and they feel completely safe. Scenes of "the woman" riding in a car for the first time or donning a pair of sunglasses are just silly and played for laughs. The tonal shifts were way too jarring for me, and the movie loses its punch because of it.

    I didn't dislike the movie and there was a lot of interesting stuff in it. I will admit there were stretches that are repetitive and dull. It feels like a movie with a lot to say, but the message gets lost a bit in silliness and pointless tangents. The movie tries to tackle too much, which I suppose is better than a movie that tackles not enough. Also, compared to the previous films, "the woman" has really lost her edge.

    I do think Pollyanna has a lot of promise as a director, and I hope she continues to explore the genre. Even though the script didn't come together as well as it should have, everything else is well-done.
     

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