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marcx
08-12-2003, 02:25 PM
I watched the import DVd last night. I thought the transfer was very good, hte only thing being the darker scenes got slightly murky. Overall I was impressed wi the film and the beutifual cinematography and creepy atmosphere, but it is a low film. Anyone without patience will not appreciate it...
In some ways it remined of Dead and buried although I don't really know why....and obviously there are elements of Pet Semetary.
Cydeous
08-12-2003, 05:17 PM
I liked the film too and I agree on its pacing. I do think it works, though. I think that "Pet Semetary" got its idea off of "Zeder" but I could be wrong.
If you liked "Zeder" then you should check out "House with the Laughing Windows", which is also quite creepy (and a lot better, IMO).
marcx
08-12-2003, 05:32 PM
Yeha I have House--I enjoyed it a lot and it prompted me to get Zeder....but House is definately the better of the two for me....
Jason25
08-12-2003, 05:45 PM
I agree with both of you, House is the better film but Zeder is also quite good.
The R2 disc is much cleaner and sharper than the Image disc.
Crystal Plumage
08-12-2003, 07:33 PM
It's on my ever growing wishlist......
Where did you buy it?
(I live in region 2 so that's not a problem)
Andrew
08-12-2003, 09:35 PM
I've wanted to see this for awhile too, but avoided the first Image US release as the quality is supposed to be shit. Is there any possibility that they might port over this version, ala HOUSE WITH THE LAUGHING WINDOWS?
STREET TRASH
08-12-2003, 09:53 PM
Is there any difference between Zeder and the alternately titled Revenge of the Dead (other than the obvious)? My version is the tape distributed by Lightning video back in the mid 80s - and I think it sucks big time.
Andrew
08-12-2003, 10:12 PM
Oh yeah, there's also a domestic REVENGE OF THE DEAD DVD, I was wondering the same thing> Also if anyone knows the quality that would be nice to know. It's from some cheapie company though...http://www.dvdplanet.com/product_listing.asp?productid=26958&format=DVD
marcx
08-13-2003, 02:39 PM
I got my Zeder disc from xploited cinema. Sorry I have no idea about comparisons to revenge of the dead.
Crystal Plumage
08-13-2003, 06:57 PM
Oh yeah, there's also a domestic REVENGE OF THE DEAD DVD, I was wondering the same thing> Also if anyone knows the quality that would be nice to know. It's from some cheapie company though...http://www.dvdplanet.com/product_li...6958&format=DVD
I'd skip that one if I were you:it's full screen.
The Italian version (with English audio option) is Anamorphic Widescreen 1.85:1.
Andrew
08-13-2003, 07:25 PM
Alright, thanks for the info. I'll just keep waiting or eventually get a region free player.
Atmims
08-14-2003, 02:13 AM
Maybe I should try to rewatch Zeder then. When I first saw it I was tired and I was expecting something with at least a little action in it. It put me to sleep to be honest and I usually have a lot of patience with movies.
Deaddevilman
08-14-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Atmims
Maybe I should try to rewatch Zeder then. When I first saw it I was tired and I was expecting something with at least a little action in it. It put me to sleep to be honest and I usually have a lot of patience with movies.
Same here. I tried to watch it several times, but just kept falling asleep. Finally got rid of it.
Crystal Plumage
08-14-2003, 11:30 PM
I suppose it's Avati's style.
Laughing Windows was slow too but not boring at all and one of the better movies I've seen recently.
CrumpsBro
08-19-2003, 09:30 AM
Just rented this one the other night (the OOP Image release, which does look pretty crappy). The flick does take a while to get going but the last half-hour is pretty intense. Truth be told, I'd all but written the movie off about an hour in -- started paying bills and stuff while it was on -- but slowly the movie dragged me back in.
Now I'm thinking I may have to rent it again to see if maybe that middle hour isn't as uneventful as it seemed...
Andrew
09-22-2003, 02:52 AM
I finally got the Image disc for $6 at a used place and finished it tonight. I wasn't amazed by it, but it was an interesting film with a few choice moments. The musical score is great and the direction is alright, but the DVD is of pretty poor quality. The audio is horribly uneven, with the dialogue low and the music very very high. The image quality is quite poor as well, but not unwatchable. Overall I'm glad I got it but also glad I didn't spend too much.
Crystal Plumage
08-29-2007, 02:54 PM
Got it in the mail today (The Italian DVD for 10 Euro)
I don't know when I'm going to watch it but I'll post my thoughts here.
blood vamp
08-29-2007, 09:12 PM
imo zeders slow deliberate pacing makes the film much creepier and heightens the horror atmosphere. the video image of the coffin was so effective. i enjoyed this almost as much as house with laughing windows.
Crystal Plumage
08-29-2007, 10:06 PM
Oh,I will enjoy it but I have to be in the right mood to watch it.Been a bit tired lately.
I guess I'll watch it tomorrow though.I'm very curious about it!:D
blood vamp
08-29-2007, 10:18 PM
avatis films are the antithesis of modern horror and for that reason i love his films.
Crystal Plumage
08-30-2007, 08:35 PM
Watched this today.
So here's another of my highly regarded and often copied but never surpassed minireviews ;):
Great film and not slow at all.Kept me interested the entire film (which doesn't happen alot these days).Sometimes creepy,sometimes just gorgeous.
I noticed quite a lot of similarities with Avati's other film House with the Windows that Laugh but for some reason also some similarities with Perfume of the Lady in Black.And as said before,Pet Semetary.
Also a very Gialloesque plot (like Windows) and it also has a Gothic feel to it.
It's a wonderful film that needs a bit more recognition IMO.
There's some killing but not overly gory but the FX are well done.Italian style.
The acting was good and I had no problems with the dubbing.I watched in English because it worked the best for me.
Italian audio is included but the subs are literally taken from the English audio and is very different in places plus it uses different cues.No biggie but still annoying.
Picture quality is great,no problems there.
Highly recommended!
eric_angelus
08-30-2007, 08:47 PM
I have always really liked this movie alot. I feel that it kind of got the same bad rep with US viewers because of the misleading US ads under the Revenge of the Dead title. In this way the movie is alot like Halloween III (if people would just get over the fact that it is not a sequel they may actually get some enjoyment out of the movie), people go expecting a walking dead gut muching opus...and instead get something alot more literate and subtle. Very underrated in my opinion!
Crystal Plumage
09-01-2007, 07:21 PM
At least the thread got back to the front page,so people can read about this underrated film again.
It needs a new R1 release IMO,for those interested.
blood vamp
09-01-2007, 08:20 PM
Im impressed with the originality Avati shows in his films. zeder had it and also house with the laughing windows.
Novosibirsk
04-01-2009, 12:09 AM
There is a R1 DVD release of this under the tile "revenge of the dead". Anyone know if the audio/video is decent? Cut?
Reverenddave
04-01-2009, 12:19 AM
There is a R1 DVD release of this under the tile "revenge of the dead". Anyone know if the audio/video is decent? Cut?
I haven't seen that version, but according to the reviews at Amazon it's fullscreen with poor video quality and missing 10 minutes of footage.
walkingdude
04-01-2009, 01:00 AM
There is a R1 DVD release of this under the tile "revenge of the dead". Anyone know if the audio/video is decent? Cut?
I think there were actually 2 North American releases of this under the title Revenge of the Dead.Unless one was a boot...
Novosibirsk
04-01-2009, 02:22 AM
I think there were actually 2 North American releases of this under the title Revenge of the Dead.Unless one was a boot...
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. There is the Cydonia Pictures release which is apparently awful, but I can find another on ebay--not Image Entertainment--that says it was released on Aug 2005 R1 under Zeder. Very sketchy. Only 90 mins though, so cut.
Huh.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ZEDER-DVD-NEW_W0QQitemZ290301247271QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_DVD _HD_DVD_Blu_ray?hash=item290301247271&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18
walkingdude
04-01-2009, 10:14 AM
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. There is the Cydonia Pictures release which is apparently awful, but I can find another on ebay--not Image Entertainment--that says it was released on Aug 2005 R1 under Zeder. Very sketchy. Only 90 mins though, so cut.
Huh.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ZEDER-DVD-NEW_W0QQitemZ290301247271QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_DVD _HD_DVD_Blu_ray?hash=item290301247271&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18
MovieMars are a legit company so this wouldn't be a boot but still probably not what you are looking for.I think I had this version at one time but cant think of the company name that released it.
Crystal Plumage
04-02-2009, 08:37 PM
There are three releases of Zeder: The Image release which apparently has crappy quality, the Revenge of the Dead DVD which is fullscreen and could be cut and there's the Italian DVD which is the best.
I remember Tony having it for $30 or something:
http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/zeder-p-703.html
Breathtaking DVD release of Pupi Avati's stylish zombie/mystery film.
Throw away your US Image DVD as this DVD BLOWS away that disappointing release! Stefano (Gabriele Lavia), a budding novelist, receives the innocent gift of a used typewriter from his wife on their wedding anniversary. While changing the ribbon, he discovers the typed imprint of writing left by the previous owner. Fascinated by this startling essay, Stefano uncovers the experiments of scientist Paolo Zeder whose claims of places where death ceases to exist intrigue the young writer. Obsessed with finding the truth about Zeder's theories, Stefano is led on a terrifying journey where he is confronted with an occult conspiracy to reanimate the dead!
The transfer on this DVD is exceptional! You will not be disappointed.
http://www.fabpress.com/artwork/large/DVD115.jpg
Crystal Plumage
04-02-2009, 08:50 PM
It's here on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Zeder-NEW-PAL-Awards-DVD-Pupi-Avati_W0QQitemZ370169136880QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20 090307?IMSfp=TL090307199015r24047
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