View Full Version : KILL BILL japanese version-GORY AND IN FULL COLOR-Deaddevilman, you lucky bastard!
The Chaostar
10-26-2003, 02:30 PM
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20031023woa9.htm
Read and weep.
onebyone
10-26-2003, 02:43 PM
Well that just rocks. You made my damn day. I loved the US version but I am always up for more violence. I was debating seeing this in a theater here but now, the decision is made.
Yeah, i read this on imdb. let's hope Mirimax will consider doing an unrated DVD, although I've never known them to do that. If they won't then looks like I'll be getting the japanese DVD.
Pukenstein
10-26-2003, 03:41 PM
"Americans just can't take as much as the Japanese," Bender admits."
That's true. Everyone thinks 28 days later is scary, my Best Buy sold out.
28 Days later:
Great film? Yes
Scary film? Hell no.
I'm seriously considering going to Japan for like a year when I'm older, to see how it is.
well, the US dvd better include both cuts :mad:
DVD Connoisseur
10-26-2003, 07:11 PM
I was watching my freebie Tarantino DVD that came with the Saturday Times newspaper, last night. Tarantino said that the full colour version was his present to the Japanese and that although this style of cinematic carnage is everyday viewing for the Japanese, US audiences (and the rest of the world) may struggle if it was in glorious technicolour...
well, anyone who post on this site can safely say that that's bullshit. The most violent and bloody movies ever made didn't come out of Japan, I think we are all smart enough to know that. I would hope.
DVD Connoisseur
10-26-2003, 08:10 PM
well, anyone who post on this site can safely say that that's bullshit. The most violent and bloody movies ever made didn't come out of Japan, I think we are all smart enough to know that. I would hope.
Actually, I think what's been said is correct, in its context.
The Japanese sensibilities are way different than other nations. Imagine watching the Guinea Pig movies on US television? No, thought not. Imagine Urotsukodji on television as a series, uncut? Nope.
In general, Japanese audiences are used to seeing violent movies as standard fare without having to seek it out. I don't know where the most violent movies in the world originate but I'd say that the average Asian audience is more resiliant to a splatterfest than the mass Scream audiences of other nations. The members of boards such as this one aren't the average viewer, don't forget.
Also, there's no way that the full-colour version would have passed the censors in the US, the UK and probably quite a few other countries.
Deus Ex Machina
10-26-2003, 08:34 PM
I like the black and white bits...it makes it even more surreal.
...and like the CG spectators in Eyes Wide Shut do the black and white bits change the story? No. As long as the story is intact I'm happy.
Pukenstein
10-26-2003, 08:38 PM
Judging by Access Hollywood's top ten scariest movies on yesterday, audiences couldn't handle the jap full-color Kill Bill. Most think TCM remake is scary.
I can't find a link, going on memory.
1. The Exorcist
2. Halloween
3. Psycho
4. The Omen
5. The Sixth Sense
6. American Werewolf in London
7. Scream
8.
9. Blair Witch
10. The Others
Like I said, I really hope they'll put this version on DVD in the US.
Actually, I think what's been said is correct, in its context.
The Japanese sensibilities are way different than other nations. Imagine watching the Guinea Pig movies on US television? No, thought not. Imagine Urotsukodji on television as a series, uncut? Nope.
In general, Japanese audiences are used to seeing violent movies as standard fare without having to seek it out. I don't know where the most violent movies in the world originate but I'd say that the average Asian audience is more resiliant to a splatterfest than the mass Scream audiences of other nations. The members of boards such as this one aren't the average viewer, don't forget.
Also, there's no way that the full-colour version would have passed the censors in the US, the UK and probably quite a few other countries.
Urotsukodji and Guinea Pig wasn't shown on Japanese television, as far as I know, unless it was some cable channel, also note that those two movies are well known here in the fragile states, well known enough to warrant the release of the asian cut in the US at least on DVD, wouldn't you agree?
I think it is cool how the black & white scene is handled, but I would love to see the Japanese cut. I may have to pick up this DVD twice if the US release is the 'cut' version.
DVD Connoisseur
10-27-2003, 12:12 AM
Urotsukodji and Guinea Pig wasn't shown on Japanese television, as far as I know, unless it was some cable channel, also note that those two movies are well known here in the fragile states, well known enough to warrant the release of the asian cut in the US at least on DVD, wouldn't you agree?
I'd be surprised if there wasn't an unrated release of Kill Bill: Volume 1 for sale in the US at some point in the future. Maybe even a director's cut at some stage, too, as it looks like some scenes were omitted (unless they show up as deleted scenes on an extras disc), as per the other Kill Bill thread.
Nemesis
10-27-2003, 12:40 AM
I wonder if theyll release volume 1 on dvd before volume2 hits the screens the same way matrix reloaded was
TobalRox
10-27-2003, 02:07 AM
Probably... it won't have much in terms of extras though.
I belive he said that the movies will be release on their own with extras and then as a box set with both films with different extras than the single releases.
Deaddevilman
10-27-2003, 05:28 AM
Urotsukodji and Guinea Pig wasn't shown on Japanese television, as far as I know, unless it was some cable channel, also note that those two movies are well known here in the fragile states, well known enough to warrant the release of the asian cut in the US at least on DVD, wouldn't you agree?
Niether of those have been shown on Japanese TV and I can't imagine it ever happening. Very few Japanese are even aware of these films, just the horror nuts like us. If Tarentino had any respect for the Japanese he would have cast one in the role that Lucy Lu plays.
I'm in the US now so I won't be seeing this version anytime soon, although I am their for two weeks every six weeks I don't have the time to take a couple of hours off to see film. All my down time is reserved for liver abuse. :)
thrashard76
10-27-2003, 06:23 AM
Maybe the single DVD releases will be rated and the box set will be unrated.
Maupin
10-27-2003, 11:39 AM
I saw it opening night.
The House of Blue Leaves sequence was indeed all color, with plenty of bright red stuff spraying everywhere. My opinions on the film are mixed. It was jam-packed with style and not much else, but there was enough to carry the film for me... and perhaps enough for me to pay to see volume 2. Overall it was fun and that was all I really expected, though a small part of me hoped for more.
DVD Connoisseur
10-27-2003, 08:01 PM
Niether of those have been shown on Japanese TV and I can't imagine it ever happening. Very few Japanese are even aware of these films, just the horror nuts like us.
My bad. These were made for the Japanese video market. :o
Still, the Japanese do have extreme tastes.
I must admit, I enjoyed Lucy Liu in this film and the fact that she was not Japanese was actually used as a plot device (of sorts) by Tarantino.
I would love to go to Japan. One day, perhaps......
Demon
10-28-2003, 01:11 AM
I saw it last night, I loved it, I don't know how he got away with that much mayhem and still got an R rating.
Kickass movie, I'll definatly buy the dvd, hopefully the unrated version, did anybody else notice the homage to Fulci?
I must admit, I enjoyed Lucy Liu in this film and the fact that she was not Japanese was actually used as a plot device (of sorts) by Tarantino.
Well, I think the complaint is that Lucy's Japanese isn't very good at all. If you don't speak Japanese though, you'd never know it. As some of you know, I'm currently learning Japanese, and she sounds a lot like me. In other words, BAD. Over-pronouncing, and/or mispronouncing. You can totally tell she's never spent more than a month in Japan, and that's not her character at all.
But, it's the same as Chow Yun-Fat and Michelle Yeoh pretending to be native Mandarin speakers in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
Cydeous
10-28-2003, 06:54 AM
Isn't that the entire point with Lucy Liu's character? She isn't Japanese... isn't that why some of her subordinates want to see a Japanese leader?... isn't that why, when she wanted to hammer her point home, spoke in English (perhaps it's her language of choice)? I just assumed that her Japanese wasn't perfect.
I liked the B&W scenes, actually, but I'd like to see them in colour as well. I don't think that Tarantino thinks that the Japanese can handle more violence that the US. I think that the ratings board in the US won't allow the film to pass without cuts if the scene was in colour. There is a HUGE difference.
bwana the clown
10-28-2003, 07:55 AM
The MPAA may not have let it by, but I didn't think it was THAT over the top and am pretty sure the Australian ratings board would have passed it in full colour - I only wish they'd had the chance to do so...
Cydeous
10-29-2003, 03:57 PM
I think that Tarantino presented the MPAA with the B&W version in the first place. He intended on realeasing it that way in NA and Europe and in colour elsewhere. He wants that movie to be a "collectors" item of sorts.
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