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Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 06:13 AM

Let me start off by saying that I am an Evil Dead fan and watching al;l three movies last night made me think of this.

....I THINK THE EVIL DEAD SERIES IS FAR TOO HIGHLY OVER RATED!

*cowers, waiting for the eventual gunfire (shotgun of course)*

In watcing the series I found that the movies to me were good but not the kind of good to warrant the accolades it recieves. I find Army of Darkness to be very umm....terrible. The story is weak as well as much of the acting. The main thing I like is the pre-CGI effects (loads of stop motion and the "introvision" process).

Evil Dead 2 isn't too bad but I have to take it in small doses.

My favourite is the first Evil Dead. Much like Texas Chainsaw and Night of the Living Dead before it and Blair Witch after it was a great example of gumption used to get a movie done. It may not be technically good or cinematically correct but it works.

....I've just lost my train of thought but I think I've said enough to get my ass capped.

any thoughts? *winces*

puddytay

11-18-2003, 06:21 AM

I like part 2 the best then part 1. I find part 3 funny but was kinda crap. The fight scene was incredibly to long and I fell asleep watching it the first time. I really wish they would make a part 4 in the city.

sumo8675309

11-18-2003, 06:25 AM

Forget The Gun .wheres the rope at and the nearest tree. how can you say these things . bad acting and story plus gore count me in

bwana the clown

11-18-2003, 06:29 AM

No argument from me - I agree with you for the most part. I dislike ED3 as an Evil Dead movie, but do find it mildly enjoyable by itself.

I think ED2 is good, but also overrated, and doesn't come close to the original, which despite it's low budget, dodgy stop-motion effects and poor acting, was, and still is, one of the most effective horror films of all time.

mcchrist

11-18-2003, 06:32 AM

I agree with your sentiments completely, Deus. Every point.

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 06:42 AM

Forget The Gun .wheres the rope at and the nearest tree. how can you say these things . bad acting and story plus gore count me in

..I am an Evil Dead fan and a fan of bad acting and gore but my real beef is how much these films are hailed as something better than what they are (or at least better than other really good films with bad acting and gore)

...where's the accolades for Nekromantik?

H0MOSareGAY

11-18-2003, 07:01 AM

:eek1: :eek1: :eek1: :eek1: :eek1: :eek1: :eek1:
wha...?

KR~!

11-18-2003, 07:09 AM

Ok, how this for an opinion :

1st one is my personal favorite since it's great and an actual horror movie. Total horror classic!

2nd is great too, many think it's the best, I love it. Extremely funny, and a great spoof of the 1st one.

3rd one is shit, I can't stand it, it has some great lines, but it's worth sitting through it just for that.

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 07:17 AM

I agree with the spoof on the first one aspect of part two...actually the guy who first told me about Evil Dead 2 didn't know there was a first part...he thought the "2" was all part of the comedy.

(this was 1993...long before Evil Dead was considered this classic)

On another note, I have about two and a half hours worth of short films made by Sam Raimi, Josh Becker and Scott Spiegel and those are infinitly (sp?) better than Army (or anything Sam Raimi has done since).

H0MOSareGAY

11-18-2003, 07:41 AM

wait... let me get this straight... you don't like Army of Darkness? You think the ED movies are overrated? are you allowed to say that?
...

...

are you sure you are thinking of the right movies?

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 07:45 AM

Mind you, when I was 15 they were the coolest things I ever saw but in the intervening ten years their novelty wore down.

mcchrist

11-18-2003, 07:45 AM

He is HOMOS, those movies are some of the most overrated and overhyped films in existence. I could give a shit about what "cool" thing Bruce is going to say next. He's a good actor, but nothing more. Sam Raimi, likewise.

I agree on those short films Deus, I love the Benny Hill feel in a lot of them. Cleveland Smith cracks me up.

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 07:47 AM

Blind Waiter never gets old for me

onebyone

11-18-2003, 07:57 AM

Fine then you so aren't invited to my Evil Dead party then. I am secure in my love of the movies, I am not defending them to anyone. I think the Lord of the Rings movies are overrated so I watch other stuff.

Why are folks feeling compelled to make these threads this week anyway? We have anti-Exorcist/Texas Chainsaw Massacre thread and now this. An anti-Night/Dawn/Day thread is just around the corner, I can smell it.

x666x

11-18-2003, 08:02 AM

My fave is the first one and it didn't hold up for me over the years. Mind you, I must have seen it literally 10 to 15 times in my youth.

Part 2 is way over rated but I don't like horror comedies much as it is.

AOD is cool but doesn't deserve the hype.

The series is good for a horror fan to be. A good intro into the world of indie films. Kind of the main stream of the underground. Women who seem to like it all seem to have a thing for Bruce Cambell I noticed as well.

And yes...Bubba Hotep is fun fun movie but not an excellent film, alhtough I do admit Bruce Campbell was amazing in it as well as the other characters.

HellRazor

11-18-2003, 08:25 AM

First one was great - low budget, unique at the time, and very creepy. Not a lot of comedy elements.

The second one sucked! It was basically a remake of the first one with comedy. The dancing skeleton was almost enough to make me turn it off, it was so bad. Worst of the lot.

The third one was ok. Still too much comedy, but at least it was in a new setting, had better special effects and a better budget, and had more of a plot to it. Could have done without the whole bit with the mini-Ash's though.

Overall - first one's not overrated, but the rest of the series definately is.

dmeister

11-18-2003, 09:48 AM

I loved all three. I particularly liked the fact that each was entertaining in its own unique way. I also liked Bruce as the reluctant-anti-hero-turned-badass. And, while Army of Darkness certainly went off on a tangent, few films, aside from Big Trouble in Little China, have provided me with so many quotable lines. ;) I proudly admit that I am an Evil Dead junky. Got the fleshy latex Book of the Dead. Got the two video games. Got the photo with Bruce. Hell, I even got the freakin' lunchbox. Why? Because these movies kicked ass, and they will never make another one like them! ;)

I even felt a little tear run down my cheek during the theater scene in Donnie Darko. ;)

dmeister

Revoltor

11-18-2003, 11:42 AM

Heh heh. I think we're missing one or two more posters with Ash avatars.

Anyway, I pretty much agree with the haters here. The first one is a classic, the second a funny yet unecessary sequel and the third utter garbage minus the S-Mart ending.

Bruce Campbell is an awesome guy though. It's not his fault his fanbase is blind.

onebyone

11-18-2003, 12:09 PM

Bruce Campbell is an awesome guy though. It's not his fault his fanbase is blind.

:rolleyes:

If you don't like the movies, that is fine with me. Different strokes, different folks, whatever. Still, no reason to go ragging on the fans.

Just saying.

Mortis

11-18-2003, 02:21 PM

This isn't the first time he's been a dick to someone.

Mok

11-18-2003, 02:59 PM

Really, I don't think these films are overrated at all. If you consider things from a mainstream point of view, a lot of people probably haven't seen them. The horror genre has more valleys than peaks, so when a truely good thing comes around, people who love horror latch on. With that said, I don't think it could hurt for Evil Dead 3 to have some George Lucas style reshoots. They have the budget now, why not go back and make that ending fight seen compairable to Jason and the Argonaughts? I always find that part of the movie a little disappointing - the other two films are great though.

speanroc

11-18-2003, 03:31 PM

what about the anti-suspiria thread :D

SaviniFan

11-18-2003, 04:03 PM

I love the first Evil Dead. I've always felt Army of Darkness was overrated and it bores me to be frank about it. I remember going to a Fangoria convention in Detroit a couple years before AoD was made. Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi were there and took some Q&A's in the auditorium. They wanted advice from the fans about what they wanted to see in the next Evil Dead film. As shallow as it may sound, many fans spoke up with a resounding "more gore". Apparently the request fell on deaf ears and thus made the whole event a moot point. AoD remains one of my least liked "hyped" films.

Deaddevilman

11-18-2003, 04:13 PM

Evil Dead was good. ED2 was silly but watchable. Army of Darkness was... how do I say this... total shit. Without Sam, Bruce would be nothing more then a waiter trying to be an actor. More to the point, Bruce's work is not what I would call quality.

Ash28M

11-18-2003, 04:30 PM

I loved the first one i would rank it number 6 all time. As for the other two i like them, they are just a bit to comedic for my taste. I like my horror to be dark, tense, disturbing and serious and i got less of that as the series went along.

geekcccp

11-18-2003, 04:45 PM

I grew up watching these films so they hold a special place for me but i must admit that their charm has worn away slightly after 11 years of viewing. I dont think I'd be a huge fan if I saw them for the first time recently.

17thJuggalo

11-18-2003, 05:03 PM

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just as I think that the Matrix movies are overhyped pieces of junk and bad CGI. None the less, here's my own personal breakdown on one of my favorite horror trilogies.

Evil Dead I: When I first saw this, I was around 12 yeard old or so. This movie had freaked me out, and by that point I had seen it all. Bad acting and all, this movie still holds its creepiness, and probably always will.

Evil Dead II: Perhaps my favorite horror film of all time. Not because its particularly scary or anything, but I grew up watching this movie over and over. Everytime I would show it to a friend who's never heard of it, there were always like "that movie was awesome!" I think it combines comedy and horror better than any other film in its genre.

Army of Darkness: Ok, I was very dissapointed that this movie was more of a Action/Comedy then a continuation of one of my favorite movies. None the less, it was very entertaining in its own right. I guess..........

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 08:16 PM

I just thought about something...

when did you first see the movies? Like what year?

I first saw the entire series in 1993/94 when I was 15. No one else around me (save one or two people) had ever seen, let alone heard of these films so it was like my own discovery.

Anyone else?

Mok

11-18-2003, 08:26 PM

mcchrist

11-18-2003, 08:31 PM

Sorry mok, but the dialogue and the editing alone are enough to drive me nuts. The story was OK in the first one, but it was dead horse after that. I just can't stand listening to any of those jackasses talk in em, like they belong in a Greek chorus or church. There's no way I can take that seriously, even for a second.

etale

11-18-2003, 08:53 PM

Personally, I prefer the third film of the three. I felt it was an odd variation of A CONNECTICUT YANKEE IN KING ARTHUR'S COURT. I'm sure Mark Twain would have approved.
My favorite scene in the second film was the scene where Ash puts the pail on top of his severed possessed hand and piles books on top, the last one being FAREWELL TO ARMS.

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 08:55 PM

See now that whole gag is so much better in Attack of the Helping Hand.

etale

11-18-2003, 08:55 PM

mcchrist

11-18-2003, 08:57 PM

Helping Hand was hilarious.

Disco Stu

11-18-2003, 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=17thJuggalo]Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just as I think that the Matrix movies are overhyped pieces of junk and bad CGI. None the less, here's my own personal breakdown on one of my favorite horror trilogies.

I feel the need to say that your point of view on the Matrix seems to be a popular one on this forum. Man, I really don't understand how anyone can't like these movies - are you old? Like 73 or something? Bad CG? What is good CG? The Matrix gets all the prise it DESERVES dudes.

I hate when its 'cool' to dislike something that is hands down quality.
While the effects are in fact quite good in The Matrix, part of AOD's ramshackle charm is in its use of stop motion. The more polished it looks, the less amusing it is. Campbell's overacting in the third film fits perfectly with the warts and all Introvision process.

And appreciating the CGI in The Matrix, does not have anything to do with the quality of the film. There is no such thing as "hands down quality." I can't understand how anyone wouldn't find ED II funny, but I don't think people are idiots for not going with the humor. Quality is something that is completely subjective. And the two sequels to The Matrix (I rented the second and I snuck in and saw at least 80 minutes of the third one) are downright awful is so many respects, that I laugh at those who take it so seriously. The second one was so confused and overwritten without being thought through. There were no interesting visuals in the entire 140 minutes, which was how the first film stayed afloat through its cobbled together plot and laughable dialogue. The third film managed to get everything wrong in a different way, with action scenes that went on and on and on, that gave new meaning to the word repetition. And each line uttered by the cast was one of immeasurable ineptitude. No matter how hard I tried, I could not keep from cackling through every scene. Not that I could blame the actors, who seem almost less directed than on a recent Star Wars movie, and forced to say such silly portentous things. Although seeing Reeves with that facecloth around his head for so long probably didn't help me contain my amusement.

I suggest you read Ebert's 3 1/2 star review of Matrix Reloaded which isn't giving credit so much to the film, as it is congratulating the Wachowskis for pulling the wool over the audience by pretending the characters are saying much more than they are. He actually mentions how funny it is that fanboys on websites such as this, will read into something that isn't there. Yes, he falls into his usual trap of preferring movies that create visual worlds, ignoring their obvious faults, and always being overly supportive of movies that feature predominately black casts. But the point is there, if you were fooled, you are a common thinker, trying to justify why something doesn't make sense to you by giving it meaning, when the reality is, the writers don't know what it means either and were too lazy to work it out. http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2003/05/051401.html

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 09:04 PM

By the way, which ending do all of you prefer of ARMY OF DARKNESS? I happen to like both of them, but the majority of the members of the Laser Rangers hate the director's cut ending and prefer the theatrical.

I like both endings...

I think S-Mart is a good party atmosphere ending. Back in highschool some friends and I would have Evil Dead fests and we'd always watch my Universal tape instead of my Japanese bootleg.

The apocalypse ending is just the right ending for the tone of the movie and for the series. I think if there were no part four it would be the perfect ending for the character of Ash, who from day one (film one) was never cut out to be a hero (characterwise).

etale

11-18-2003, 09:11 PM

I like both endings...

I think S-Mart is a good party atmosphere ending. Back in highschool some friends and I would have Evil Dead fests and we'd always watch my Universal tape instead of my Japanese bootleg.

The apocalypse ending is just the right ending for the tone of the movie and for the series. I think if there were no part four it would be the perfect ending for the character of Ash, who from day one (film one) was never cut out to be a hero (characterwise).

I ran both endings at the Laser rangers session.

I had to point to one member that the Director's Cut had more to it than the the different ending. There are several scenes that are improved when they are lengthened, especially the scene in the mill.

Latency

11-18-2003, 09:17 PM

Time for the second Ash avatar to speak up :)

I don't really care what anyone else thinks. This IMO is the best trilogy of all time. Each movie was uniquie in it's own way. Evil Dead was scary, ED2 was funny in a Re-animator kind of way, and AOD was simply the best adventure/horror/comedy movie rolled into one. I will watch these movies over and over and over and never get bored. Bruce Campbell is the best B-Movie actor hands down and no doubt makes the movies better than they should be. Can you guys seriously picture the horror genre without Evil Dead ? Over-rated or not, these films are the reason some of us got into horror movies again. AOD did it for me when Anchor Bay released it on DVD.

It's all a matter of opinion for sure. I personally think the movies deserves all the praise they get. But that's just me :)

17thJuggalo

11-18-2003, 09:18 PM

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 09:28 PM

Hey Juggalo, on a slightly related topic have you noticed in Twiztid's Murder, Murder, Murder that the chorus sounds like Cheryl in the basement?

Y'know:

"Murder, murder, murder, murder
You never heard of redrum in reverse,
Bodies in the hearse..."

Mok

11-18-2003, 09:39 PM

Latency

11-18-2003, 09:44 PM

http://forum.garagelan.com/ubb/graemlins/offtopic.gif

Mok

11-18-2003, 09:50 PM

http://forum.garagelan.com/ubb/graemlins/offtopic.gif

Coversations tend to evolve.

Deus Ex Machina

11-18-2003, 10:29 PM

Ash28M

11-18-2003, 10:29 PM

Any of the Evil dead movies are better then the Matrix, what an overrated pile of crap that is.

Grim

11-19-2003, 12:15 AM

Well, from what I've seen in terms of Mcchrist's taste in films. He seems to be more into story and characters and stuff, not flashy action scenes and CGI sets. (you know you love SW: Episode II, Mcchrist) DiscoStu seems to be along the same lines. So that explains why they dont like the matrix films.

Numania

11-19-2003, 12:32 AM

Yup, overrated. The further you go, the worse it gets. The first is fun, but not great. Then...ack...
Crap...

Deus Ex Machina

11-19-2003, 12:35 AM

I think with Evil Dead the further away you get from Ellen Sandweiss, the worse it gets.

Disco Stu

11-19-2003, 12:54 AM

In response to 17thJuggalo/DiskoStu:

Guys, ask yourself this; would you rather you had never seen the Matrix? Don't you appreciate good action sequences? If so, tell me one that you would consider better than the freeway scene in Reloaded. Why is it that when a movie brings so much to the table, there are those who want to see it only for its weaknesses? Granted the dialogue might not be Shakespear, but it serves its purpose, which is too move the story along as a scifi/action movie would have. If anything you've got to admire the ambitious effort put forth in these films - they are a cut above most scifi/action films out there.

Don't be so hard on minor details like: Neo looked slightly too CG when he was twirling on the pole. This scene with the many agent Smiths is something totally surreal in itself so its probably hard to make it look realistic to everyone.
Last post on this subject.

I thought the photography for the first film was extraordinary, ironically shot by the same guy who shot AOD (and the brilliant Bound), and some of the effects were well done, enough to distract from the tediousness of the cliched dialogue. However, the second film is a mess of gargantuan proportions.

My review after seeing it:

A few hours ago I saw Matrix Reloaded, and I have to say that it was a good thing the movie was basically pre-sold. There is a fundamental problem with the enterprise, that I don't think interested the Wachowski's anyway. Since the idea behind these films is to attempt to obscure the meaning with overy complex language to give it an air of mystery, it goes without saying that there are long sequences were characters pretend to be having conversations about something important, but really aren't. But the main issue, is that even when there are the endless kung fu fights and action sequences, I was unaware of each character's goal. They may understand it, but I didn't. If they win this fight or survive this battle or explosion, what have they achieved, other than escape? The famed freeway sequence has several sets of villains all chasing after Morpheus, Trinity, and the Keymaster (or whatever his name was, I could only think of Ghostbusters anyway), and at one point the villains start shooting at each other. I didn't have any idea why. What did the Eurotrash guy who has that pointless conversation with Neo and Morpheus over fake fancy lunch want with the keymaster anyway? What was he gaining by keeping him hostage? If the albino twins can turn into sprits, and seemingly can't be killed via a sword or a gun, and can travel through things, how can they be killed at all? Couldn't they just spirit through anything you might do to them? How does Laurence Fishburne keep a straight face while delivering his lines? Who else couldn't stop laughing during the scene on Zion where Neo is talking to the high commander, and they keep saying the same things back to each other. "I think I understand the point." "I think you missed the point." "That is the point." Is Agent Smith in the movie only to provide more fight scenes? Do the Wachowski brothers know how boring and repetitive the fights are? If Neo can remove bullets from people, and restart their heart, couldn't he do that with everyone?

And then the whole thing didn't matter, because nearly 2 hours into the movie, there's a scene where Neo meets the creator of the matrix, who informs him that there were five versions of The One beforehand, and nothing he does matters, and Zion has in fact, been destroyed five times before this one will be as well. Which kind of invalidates the entire movie, doesn't it? Because in essence, they are all computer creations, even outside of the matrix, and so even in world of the movie we are watching, the characters aren't real.

There is so much more as well. The first movie succeeded at making both worlds believable by establishing the world we understand first, and then explaining that we are living a false reality, and showing us the real one. The sequel manages to make none of the many worlds it shows seem believable, and so there is always a sense of phoniness and that there is nothing really at stake. And did the Wachowski's forget that the amusement in Reeves' performance during the first movie is that he was confused and didn't quite believe what was going on? Here we are stuck with Reeves in complete serious and confident mode, 95% of the time hiding behind shades, without even a glint of fun, and there is never any sense that he's in real danger. I was warned about the Zion scenes, and they were right, as they go nowhere, are ugly, and go on for 40 minutes...

...Action movies work on immediacy and when a movie stops dead in its tracks for 10 minutes of dialogue to tell us that nothing you do matters, everything is in a repeating cycle, you are just one in a long line of The One's, nothing we have previously dramatized for over 4 hours is in any sense a real world and you are just a computer program fulfilling it's duties as a predestined anomaly, it immediately eliminates that sense of urgency and the wind comes right out of the sails.

I know you could say that maybe, this guy was lying, but it gives the movie the notion of a dead end (and not exactly how you design a cliffhanger), it could keep revealing each world as false and never stop and really, what's the point of that? Even in Tron, which Matrix 2: Electric Keanuloo begins to heavily resemble, there is a sense that there is an out to a world where things are real.

As someone once said to me, "Keanu Reeves playing somebody who doesn't know what's going on is pretty believable; Keanu Reeves playing 'the One' is less so."

Atmims

11-19-2003, 12:55 AM

Well, my opinion on Evil Dead series is pretty much exactly your Dues Ex. Back when I first seen them I was like 12 and they were the shit. I can still watch them every now but no way will I ever watch Army of Darkness again, I seen it once a long time ago and again with the DVD and that's enough to realize it's just not my kinda movie.

The Matrix, I never cared for it even though it did have some cool action sequences. Action movies that rely mostly on special effects and no real tension get old too fast for me, sorta like a lot of video games. They thrill you at first then after you've seen them once or twice it's nothing but another worthless movie. I don't care how good it was the first time.

KR~!

11-19-2003, 01:32 AM

The 1st The Matrix was damn good movie, the rest... (vomits)

betterdan

11-19-2003, 01:54 AM

I first saw Evil Dead around 82 or 83 and instantly loved it. I saw Evil Dead 2 at the theater when it came out and was a little disappointed at first that it wasn't balls out horror but came to love it almost as much as the first. I saw AOD at the thater and loved it. Evil Dead remains on my top horror movies of all time list.
As for the Matrix it did have some cool effects and the CGI was pretty well done but the movie itself bored me to tears. I just couldn't get into it. I never saw (and don't want to) the sequels so I guess I can't say how shitty or great they may be.

Numania

11-19-2003, 03:44 AM

The Matrix, I never cared for it even though it did have some cool action sequences. Action movies that rely mostly on special effects and no real tension get old too fast for me, sorta like a lot of video games. They thrill you at first then after you've seen them once or twice it's nothing but another worthless movie. I don't care how good it was the first time.

Oddly enough, The Matrix is one of the movies that taught me how to watch movies. Due to the references and the cinematic clues and all sorts of cool shit within the movie, I realized that movies weren't just an hour and a half long shows. Seriously. This one taught me to see beyond the shit. It's too bad I was old or something but who cares. Nebuchardnezzar...c'mon. I was a classics major and this movie used a lot of the elements that I knew. Notice that Morpheus is the only one in a tie?
The first (and sacrificial) girl killed was dressed in all white? Dude, this movie is way better than a lot of people think.

H0MOSareGAY

11-19-2003, 03:50 AM

Okay, back on topic.

despite my first post here I do agknowledge (sp?) that Evil Dead and it's sequels have had alot of influence (in watching The Two Towers today I can see two really obvious nods to Evil Dead and Army of Darkness). But then even shit helps to make a rose.

or in this case, even a rose helps to make shit (that is, if you can eat the rose with all those thorns, but the thorns aren't part of the metaphor)

I respect your opinions, even if they are wrong. You know what they say? well, they said it in everyone's favorite movie, The Matrix. :evil:

I actually like the S-Mart ending a little better, I actually have my own cut on DVD-R that is pretty much the directors cut, with the S-Mart ending tacked onto the end. (and conveniently, that cut also has ED 1 and 2 tacked on to the front)

thrashard76

11-19-2003, 04:11 AM

Evil Dead is a good horror movie.
Evil Dead 2 is a good comedy/horror movie.
AOD is a good action/comedy movie.

onebyone

11-19-2003, 04:14 AM

or in this case, even a rose helps to make shit (that is, if you can eat the rose with all those thorns, but the thorns aren't part of the metaphor)

:lol:

I like the S-Mart ending the best, because it is more campy and fun and in keeping with the spirit of the movie. That said, I have some moods where I only want to see the director's version, and I am not quite sure why.

Deus Ex Machina

11-19-2003, 04:27 AM

I actually like the S-Mart ending a little better, I actually have my own cut on DVD-R that is pretty much the directors cut, with the S-Mart ending tacked onto the end. (and conveniently, that cut also has ED 1 and 2 tacked on to the front)

Now there's something I'd like to do again. Way, way back when I was but a dewey youth I made a perfect edit of all three movies together but now I can't see doing it with all three movies having different aspect ratios.

Marvel Jedi

11-19-2003, 07:23 PM

EVIL DEAD TRILOGY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People who don't like it suck.

Deus Ex Machina

11-19-2003, 07:53 PM

Dude, edit that post...that's just annoying.

...also another complaint with the Evil Dead series...alot of the fans I've come in contact with are very juvenile.

Deus Ex Machina

11-19-2003, 07:59 PM

Let me rephrase that.....Bruce Campbell and Evil Dead fans.

Loomis

11-19-2003, 10:49 PM

I'm coming a little late to this party, but I'll chip in with my 2 cents (well 5c, because that is the smallest denomination we have here ...).
...alot of the fans I've come in contact with are very juvenile.
I loved the Evil Dead films from the moment I saw them, and they have fast become my fave horror movies (or fave movies period). (And dig this - so does my grandmother who was 60 when she first saw them, and is now 73 and still loves them! The amount of times she'll quote that "boomstick" scene from 'Army' at me, or the 'Farewell to Arms' joke in Evil Dead 2...). Ok, I know that wasn't your point about 'juvenile' fans, but I just thought I'd mention it because I always find it amusing.
I think my point, if I am even trying to make one, is that Evil Dead has this strange appeal to fans of all ages. I'm 25 now, and have been loving watching them for the last 10 years or so (whenever 'Army' came out).
Some of the effects etc are dated yes. But they are certainly rewatchable.
The first movie managed to scare me, the second one made me laugh, and the third had me in hysterics. There is pretty much something in there for everyone, but at the same time they don't have a universal appeal (as is the nature of the 'cult' cinema).
For me, they are something I can always return to. Very few 'series' manage impress me consistently as this does, and I think because each film was a little different in tone was the reason for this.
At any rate, I might watch one of them tonight now that you've brought it up :)

Nasty Nate

11-19-2003, 10:54 PM

...also another complaint with the Evil Dead series...alot of the fans I've come in contact with are very juvenile.
You seem to be begging for a fucking curbstomp. If I had more time on my hands I'd elaborate on how your snobbish attitude and this thread just sucks complete ass. :fuck:

Latency

11-19-2003, 11:05 PM

You seem to be begging for a fucking curbstomp. If I had more time on my hands I'd elaborate on how your snobbish attitude and this thread just sucks complete ass. :fuck:

I was just typing out a post regarding the same thing, then decided to delete it because I didn't wanna start anything.

But yeah Deus Ex, I feel insulted too. So :fuck: .

Fans are fans, they all come in different flavors, who are you to judge them ?

EDIT: You obviously know this board contains hardcore Evil Dead fans, so why make that comment on it's fans being immature ? Your basically just insulting people.

onebyone

11-20-2003, 12:48 AM

...also another complaint with the Evil Dead series...alot of the fans I've come in contact with are very juvenile.

:eek1:

I would take you to task for that inherently lame statement, but you seem so desperate for attention I am thinking that is just what you want. Hence, I am leaving you be. For now.

17thJuggalo

11-20-2003, 01:14 AM

Hey I dont think he's trying to be a dick, or gain attention. He didnt say EVERY fan of Evil Dead is juvenile.

However if I went to a Matrix forum and said every Matrix fan I met was moderately homosexual, I could see where people would be upset. Not that I would do that or anything :D

Revoltor

11-20-2003, 05:20 AM

Yeah seriously. Thanks for proving our point.

Deus Ex Machina

11-20-2003, 06:40 AM

Hey I dont think he's trying to be a dick, or gain attention. He didnt say EVERY fan of Evil Dead is juvenile.

Thank you.

I said every Evil Dead fan I'VE COME IN CONTACT WITH are juvenile.

...and responding only with: :fuck: you're just proving my point.

onebyone

11-20-2003, 09:13 AM

Thank you.

I said every Evil Dead fan I'VE COME IN CONTACT WITH are juvenile.

...and responding only with: :fuck: you're just proving my point.

Broad comments about a fanbase are going to make folks involved with it mad. You had to have known that. Besides, the fans have nothing at all to do with your thoughts on the movies. :rolleyes:

Latency

11-20-2003, 06:07 PM

Thank you.

I said every Evil Dead fan I'VE COME IN CONTACT WITH are juvenile.

...and responding only with: :fuck: you're just proving my point.

You should have made yourself clearer. When you say alot of Evil Dead fans you've met are juvenile, that could include the people you've met here on the boards or whatever. You start making people think you could be talking about them (including onebyone and myself or whom ever). You can't seriously expect to say what you did and not get a reaction of some kind.

Latency

11-20-2003, 07:23 PM

Deus Ex - Check yer Pm's

Lets not trash this thread any more than it already has. I suggest others do the same :).