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Mario77
07-22-2001, 02:33 AM
Maybe I'm biased -- okay, I am biased -- but I adore the films of Mario Bava (even the ones other people seem to hate) and regard him a true no-budget genius. He is, in my opinion, a director unsurpassed in horrific elegance, style and beauty. Yes, I could easily say the same about Argento (I do love him ever so), but Bava is the Grand-daddy.
Alright, enough of my hero-worshipping... I'll cut to the point.
I've been eagerly awaiting Tim Lucas' book All the Colors of the Dark: The Films of Mario Bava for some time now. It seems that in every new commentary track or liner notes that Mr. Lucas contributes to Bava DVD releases, he makes a brief reference to the book; and each time it's release date is pushed back more. Now, I'm not one to be pushy;) ( I'll take quality over expedience any day) , but where is this book? Does anyone know if it's coming out this fall as last promised? Is anyone else excited to read the first real book about Mario to be published in the States?

dlundh
07-22-2001, 12:15 PM
A couple of issues back of Video Watchdog, Tim Lucas spent the entire editorial thanking everyone for their patience with the book and announced that it will be coming this FALL. (Another delay). He said it might get done earlier but to be on the safe side he stated Fall 2001 as the time frame.

I'm also eagerly awaiting the book although it will set me back $125.

Mario77
07-22-2001, 12:28 PM
Ouch! $125? Oh well, I'm sure it will be well worth it! :D

Trout
07-22-2001, 04:59 PM
Having read various articles by Mr.Lucas, I would bet my entire DVD collection that this book will be more than amazing. Even though the $125+ price is steep, it is probably worth it.

Mario77
07-23-2001, 12:45 AM
Yeah, I've always enjoyed his writing in Video Watchdog; and even back before Video Watchdog when he wrote for Gorezone (that short-lived Fangoria spin-off). He was pretty much the only good thing about Gorezone. I'm sure the book is going to be fantastic! But I don't think it'll be $125 here in the States. I think dlundlh might have to pay more living in Sweden. I can't imagine it costing that much normally (not that I wouldn't buy it anyway).

dlundh
07-23-2001, 11:31 AM
I always liked Chas. Balun in GoreZone but I'm getting off-topic. :)

Mario77
07-23-2001, 12:28 PM
You're right though, dlundh. How could I forget Chas. Balun? He's a good writer.

Trout
07-23-2001, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by dlundh
I always liked Chas. Balun in GoreZone but I'm getting off-topic. :)

"Piece-o-mind" if I'm not mistaken.

Jason25
07-25-2001, 02:00 AM
Should be a good read. Looking forward to it.

jae
07-26-2001, 04:46 PM
I read on another forum that he recently got new interviews with Daliah Lavi and others, that he got the chance to see early Bava movies hes never seen before, etc and that the book will come out 'eventually'.. I'm also looking forward to it.. Maybe if you can't wait you should look into Troy Howarth's book The Haunted World of Mario Bava. It comes out in September I think. I'm not sure what all it covers but is supposed to have a ton of pictures in it. I've already pre-ordered Lucas' book (97$ I believe, you should look into that) and will also be buying Howarth's book since books by this company (Fab Press) seem to go out of print and become collectible.

Oh and let me say Bava is by far my favorite euro director too. Nobody comes close.

Mario77
07-27-2001, 03:01 AM
Great info, jae! Glad to hear he got an interview with Daliah Lavi. With whom did you pre-order Lucas' book? Directly from FAB Press? That's the best price I've heard of so far. Boy, I'll have to cut back on DVDs these next couple of months so I can afford both books! :D

jae
07-27-2001, 03:10 AM
Hmm. Sorry about this but I just checked my old email and found that the pre-order deadline was June 30th (if you preordered you got the lower price). You might try emailing Tim Lucas at videowd@aol.com and asking though because I know the date was pushed back from March to June before. I preordered with them, just mailed them a check.

laze
07-27-2001, 09:32 PM
Actually, the pre-order date has been moved to September according to the latest issue of VW.

Mario77
07-27-2001, 10:42 PM
Yeah, I just heard back from Donna Lucas and she mentioned the pre-order date being moved back. Whew! (Mario77 wipes sweat off his brow). Mrs. Lucas also said pre-orders will get a Mario Bava bookmark signed by Tim. Cool! :D

maybrick
12-18-2005, 02:51 PM
bump.


Mwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!! :D

Why don't you just admit it, Tim? You got nothin'. :rolleyes:

The Chaostar
12-18-2005, 06:41 PM
Yeah, and first 100 copies will be signed by Mario Bava himself. Lucas is a good writer but it has been a long time and the price is stupid. Oh well...

DeathDealer
12-18-2005, 07:32 PM
Your kidding me right?

Bava signed... :lol: :lol:

dwatts
12-18-2005, 09:00 PM
What I find sad is that he'd found time for his magazine, for DVD commentaries and liner notes and whatnot. This book clearly has a lower priority. Pity. As if I'd order early just to have a Lucas signature... I mean come on...

maybrick
12-18-2005, 10:51 PM
I don't think that it's a low priority as much as that the project has clearly become an obsession that he just can't let go. He's striving for a level of perfection that a person could spend an entire lifetime on and still never achieve. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that he wasted months trying to decide which fonts to use. He's stalled the release dates numerous times due to finding more people to interview, but you know what, Tim? That's what revised editions are for! If had released this damned thing in 2001 like was promised at the beginning of this thread, five years later isn't too short of a time for an updated edition with new interviews. Heck, a lot of us might have even ponied up the money for a double dip.

The Chaostar
12-18-2005, 11:15 PM
Your kidding me right?:

I hope you didn't mean that! :lol: :eek2: :lol:

Crystal Plumage
04-01-2007, 04:00 PM
OK,a few years have passed and now here it is!!
Yes you read that right (and no it's no April fools joke,look at the date)

The damn Bava book is finished:

Saturday, March 31, 2007

Finalmente!



http://bp2.blogger.com/_EqD_yWiiS5U/Rg4EMz_vsrI/AAAAAAAAADc/I2Zj2nBmK_M/s320/Bava+Book+Tim.jpg (http://bp2.blogger.com/_EqD_yWiiS5U/Rg4EMz_vsrI/AAAAAAAAADc/I2Zj2nBmK_M/s1600-h/Bava+Book+Tim.jpg)
Ladies and gentlemen, the Bava Book is FINISHED.

This little box I'm holding contains 32 years of my life and 65 years of Mario Bava's. Coming your way from Video WatcHDog this summer.

Donna's been averaging three hours' of sleep per night this week in order to get this book done by the weekend. She finished the book's interior last Tuesday or Wednesday, Thursday she put the final touches on the dustjacket, and then she pulled an all-nighter Thursday to ensure that everything could be in the mail to our Hong Kong printer by the end of the day on Friday. Most of Friday was spent by a very tired lady dividing the book into more than 90 high-res files on four DVD-ROM discs. This task occupied her till after 6:00, too late to have the package picked up at our doorstep, but fortunately the Kinko's nearest our home accepts FedEx drop-offs until 7:00pm -- so we hopped in the car and rushed across town. We got there just in time for Donna to press the package into the FedEx driver's hands as he was about to walk out of the store.

So this is the fabled day we've been working toward for the past... oh, let's not dwell on all that. The book is now done and on its way to Hong Kong. Mission finally accomplished!

http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/03/finalmente.html
"Only" $130 for USA and $160 rest of the world.Wrapped in gold I presume?
Will this be available through VideoWatchdog only?

maybrick
04-01-2007, 09:28 PM
OK,a few years have passed and now here it is!!
Yes you read that right (and no it's no April fools joke,look at the date)

The damn Bava book is finished:

http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/03/finalmente.html
"Only" $130 for USA and $160 rest of the world.Wrapped in gold I presume?
Will this be available through VideoWatchdog only?

That doesn't sound finished to me. The damned thing could get lost in the post on the way to the printers.

Jimbo
04-01-2007, 09:48 PM
Hong Kong...... I will believe it when I see it. Let's see,I have been wating for this book as long As Lucus has been talking about it.

Crystal Plumage
04-01-2007, 10:50 PM
I have been wating for this book as long As Lucus has been talking about it.Geez,are you that old?;)

Jimbo
04-02-2007, 12:02 AM
Geez,are you that old?;)

Well, Im not a "Spring Chiken" :D Whats up CP ;)

ReelFear
04-04-2007, 11:45 PM
I was one of the first people to pre-order the book, after which i recieved my tim lucas signed BAVA bookmark. Apparently my name will be included in the book somehow... we'll see about that after all these years. i can't wait for the day when this book is waiting at my front door!

Crystal Plumage
05-01-2007, 09:57 PM
Here's some more stuff on this book.Seems like I have to buy it now.Damn,that looks great!Remember this isn't the definitive version yet:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_EqD_yWiiS5U/RiUl__SDEEI/AAAAAAAAAGM/b0Jkn4WHnyo/s1600/DSC04327.JPG
http://bp2.blogger.com/_EqD_yWiiS5U/RiUl2PSDECI/AAAAAAAAAF8/QO-d6QeST6s/s1600/DSC04315.JPG

Read the full story here:
http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/invasion-of-ozalids.html
also some more Bava related news spread all over the Blog:

Previous Posts

Bava Minus 27 (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/bava-minus-27.html)
Lamberto, Sister Elena, and the High-Res Proofs (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/lamberto-sister-elena-and-high-res.html)
Invasion of the Ozalids! (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/invasion-of-ozalids.html)
BLACK SUNDAY Frame Comparisons (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/black-sunday-frame-comparisons.html)
Fangoria.com on the Bava Box (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/fangoriacom-on-bava-box.html)
Dave Kehr on the Bava Box (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/dave-kehr-on-bava-box.html)
Latest Reviews of Anchor Bay's Bava Releases (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/latest-reviews-of-anchor-bays-bava.html)
Bavasapoppin! (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/bavasapoppin.html)
A Question About the Title (http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/04/question-about-title.html)
Enjoy!

Crystal Plumage
05-01-2007, 10:01 PM
It's shipping July 2007!

RyanPC
05-01-2007, 10:10 PM
Damn, that book looks fantastic! I'm not a huge Mario Bava fan and the price is a bit steep, so I probably will not order it. But maybe one of these days if I have money burning a hole in my pocket...

Crystal Plumage
05-01-2007, 10:18 PM
I'm already thinking about buying it :D.
Will take me a few months to get the cash but I know I will eventually buy it :).

Crystal Plumage
07-01-2007, 06:01 PM
http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/06/it-exists.html
A nice 11 min. movie.

Coverdale
07-02-2007, 03:35 AM
It looks like it will be pretty cumbersome to hold and read! And almost too thick to be a coffee table book! But I want it!

Noto
07-02-2007, 04:02 AM
Where can I purchase this book?

Chad
07-02-2007, 04:26 AM
Where can I purchase this book?

http://www.videowatchdog.com/bava/index.htm

Noto
07-02-2007, 04:42 AM
http://www.videowatchdog.com/bava/index.htm

Thank you, sir.

17thJuggalo
07-02-2007, 04:55 AM
Is this the same guy that pretty much dissed Crystal Plumage because he got some info from his blog?

If so, screw em.

Crystal Plumage
07-30-2007, 05:25 PM
I'm not a religious person or else I'd curse!
FUCK that price!:
NEW PRICING
Effective upon our receipt of the shipment, the cost of the Bava book on all new orders will be increased to $250 (plus $10 US postage or $40 (!!,CP)postage outside the US). Suffice to say, the book developed into something far more ambitious than we realized when we began accepting pre-orders for it over six years ago.

However, not wishing to take anyone by surprise, we will continue to observe the pre-publication price of $120 until the expected delivery date of August 21. This is the perfect opportunity to acquire the book (for yourself, or as a gift) at less than half its publication price, or to obtain that second reading/preserving copy for yourself at a combined total of $240 -- $10 less than the publication cost of a single copy! And remember: all pre-ordered copies will be signed by the author.


$290 for foreign buyers?You must be joking!!:fire:
Who's going to buy a book for that money??

Ordering before the 21st isn't an option for me either.


Read more here:
http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/07/important-bava-book-announcements.html

maybrick
07-30-2007, 06:31 PM
It's expensive, but not unheard of for a book. You should check out the Taschen catalog sometime.

The Chaostar
07-30-2007, 07:41 PM
Taschen books go for a third of the price, months after their first release, at least here.

And Taschen publishes... furnitures in book form!

It is expensive. Lot's of people will be put off I'm afraid. I know I am.

maybrick
07-30-2007, 08:25 PM
A lot of their books are cheap, but Taschen has a lot of limited pressing books on the scale of the Bava book that go for $400 to $500 a piece. Go to their website and they have a couple on the home page that are $1000. By comparison Lucas' book seems downright reasonable. Too rich for my blood, though.

youthief
08-05-2007, 05:34 AM
delete

X-human
08-05-2007, 09:28 AM
He updated his blog on the 19th about all that, I don't think he's scamming anyone. Perhaps it won't make the August 21st date, but I have no doubt it'll be released this year at least. The man has in fact release several books that do exist and has a current publishing magazine, one of the few left I'm afraid. Delays happen but I'm sure he's being as honest as he can be without hiring a news agency to make something like an online stock ticker.

Anyways it doesn't make sense to say, "I can't give a solid release date, so instead I'll give a solid release date and raise the price $120 dollars except to those that pre-order. That'll be a big enough bone to keep those dogs from barking for awhile." There's no logic to that.

youthief
08-06-2007, 03:44 AM
delete

17thJuggalo
08-06-2007, 03:45 AM
Anyways it doesn't make sense to say, "I can't give a solid release date, so instead I'll give a solid release date and raise the price $120 dollars except to those that pre-order. That'll be a big enough bone to keep those dogs from barking for awhile." There's no logic to that.

Agreed. This guy must be delusional.

X-human
08-15-2007, 01:00 AM
I'm sure you guys are going to love this. :D Tim Lucas is having an auction with all sorts of book and Bava related goodies:
http://videowatchdog.blogspot.com/search/label/Bava%20Book%20Auction

He's probably hoping for the auction to pull in about $50,000 which is a number I've heard thrown around. I read on a forum which shall remain nameless that Tim Lucas plans to dump all the money he's made from his pre-ordering scam and now his eBay scams into a swimming pool and take a swim with Donna who's actually a 14 year old girl that's been posing as his wife for decades.

All I want to know is WHEN will the book be mailed to me.

On or around August 21st. Do you want him to forward your cell phone number to the dock so you'll be the first one they call when the ship comes in? That's probably all there still is to say and so he's simply reluctant to keep telling the mounting e-mails what he's already been saying.

To be fair you're probably right to an extent. Yes pre-orders help pay the bills. Yes shipping works very much like that. But I'd also state what Don May Jr's said about pre-ordering DVDs, it gives a better idea about demand so you know what expectations to set. This book has been for pre-order for years. Tim probably wanted to get a better idea how much interest there was, so he used the price adjustment to his advantage in order to renew interest in pre-ordering and get another sampling of interest.

And maybe, heaven forbid, he was just doing his and Bava's fans a favor by giving them once last chance to get the book at a lower price before economics force him to raise it for retail. I know, crazy. I must have forgot my pills somewhere in all this tin foil I keep around me.

maybrick
08-15-2007, 01:56 AM
Donna who's actually a 14 year old girl that's been posing as his wife for decades.


That makes zero sense.

TropicalFish
08-23-2007, 11:13 PM
I had signed up at lthese forums at least two weeks ago or longer, but finally got approved today. Appropriate timing, as the Bava book has now arrived in the States and will be shipping in a couple of days, according to Lucas' blog.

I was watching the auction, and disappointed that the bidder's names were kept private...I wanted to see who was bidding!

Nevertheless I think he made about $5,000 on the deal...

X-human
08-23-2007, 11:52 PM
Yep, here's the most ooey gooey details from Lucas's blog:So the Bava books arrive here tomorrow [24th] and shipping will go on daily for a couple of weeks. All of the books need to be signed and carefully packaged, and this takes time. This is the stage where any haste or carelessness on our part could only hurt the product you receive, so please respect the extra measures we're taking to present you with a quality product in the condition you expect.http://bavabook.blogspot.com/2007/08/bava-book-comes-to-cincinnati.html

Since I pre-ordered at nearly the last moment I'm sure I'm towards the end of the queue, but I've already got my Bava book marker in the mail so I'm re-reading that over and over again in the meantime.

TropicalFish
08-24-2007, 01:45 AM
>>>>Since I pre-ordered at nearly the last moment I'm sure I'm towards the end of the queue

I sincerely hope that it lives up to all expectations. Hope you'll post a review here...

X-human
09-13-2007, 04:51 AM
I got it today and it is huge. It's bigger than the family bible. I browsed through the Diabolik section as it's the film I'm most familiar with, and the layout is beautiful. They use quite a few behind the scenes photos of Mario Bava being very playful, reminds me of Alfred Hitchcock. I can't wait to read it, I'll have to make time now.

ReelFear
09-20-2007, 04:39 AM
i got mine too. what a joy to behold! im so proud to have my name listed in the PATRONS section! amazing!

TropicalFish
01-04-2008, 07:15 PM
Well, anyone care to share any reviews???

fattyjoe37
03-03-2009, 12:33 AM
Does anyone know where to get this book? I can't find it anywhere online except at Video Watchdog for $260! Is there any other option?

BroodingHope
03-03-2009, 01:01 AM
Does anyone know where to get this book? I can't find it anywhere online except at Video Watchdog for $260! Is there any other option?

That's pretty much the price you'll have to pay for it. The lowest I've seen it is in the $240-$250 range. Too rich for my blood.

Angelman
03-03-2009, 01:22 AM
That's pretty much the price you'll have to pay for it. The lowest I've seen it is in the $240-$250 range. Too rich for my blood.

Me too. I don't mind spending money on stuff I love but $260 is too much.

dave13
03-03-2009, 04:05 AM
this book will be mine....eventually.....once i can sell a few organs....

Jimbo
03-03-2009, 04:36 AM
I have seen the book, but do not own a copy yet. I love Bava, but this book is not going to make me fork out that kind of $$ for information that has been printed elsewhere. Sure, it is gorgeous and a good collectors item for the "TRUE" fan. But is it worth the money? Honestly, I had to ask myself after a quick glance just how often I would revisit.

I think once you read through it, and spend a bit of time with the book, it will likely sit on your shelf and collect dust. It is one of those items you will stare at from a distance and question your motives.

I have paid well over $100 for books in my time. But those books served a purpose. And unless I was using this as a historical reference to use for papers or articles in the future, the price does not justify itself for what I can get elsewhere.

Coverdale
03-05-2009, 03:55 AM
On the commentary for Baron Blood, Lucas says he has already found a mistake in his book: the name and/or location of the castle where it was shot. And other mistakes may eventually be found, or new info turned up, or even the names of new obscure films Bava worked on, meaning there may eventually be a new edition. Although considering how long it took to put together the first, and all the costs, maybe not...

Carrefour
03-05-2009, 06:56 PM
I pre-ordered it when the price was $125 and it's now my most prized book by a long shot. The wealth of information is incredible, not just about Bava and his films, but about the Italian film industry in general. I would be shocked if there weren't a few errors in a book with so much content. If I didn't know what the book contained, I probably wouldn't buy it at $260 either -- although I personally think it's worth it. Still, I'm still glad I bought it at half that price. :D