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rxfiend
09-08-2004, 06:50 AM
any one pick up this dvd? if so, what's the quality like and extra features (if any)?
Cyberdemon
09-08-2004, 07:06 AM
Has Part 2 been released on DVD?
HalloweeNightJW
09-08-2004, 12:12 PM
Has Part 2 been released on DVD?
Not in Region 1.
zombi3
09-08-2004, 04:06 PM
any one pick up this dvd? if so, what's the quality like and extra features (if any)?
Here are the "extras":
Scene Selection
Interactive Menus
Don't know about the quality, or if it's uncut. Picture is apparently full frame though.
HalloweeNightJW
09-09-2004, 12:35 AM
Picture is apparently full frame though.
I thought you were wrong because the initial announcement had it having a new anamorphic transfer, but a look at the back of the box proves you are correct, sir.
BASKET CASE 3 (Back cover) (http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_item.asp?olduserid=00000509077949&item_id=617396&tab=5&back=1&userid=00000509077949&redir=1)
Those fuckers... :fuck: :bs:
puddytay
09-09-2004, 12:37 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo not full screen.
Deus Ex Machina
09-09-2004, 12:43 AM
but is it pan and scan or open matte?
HalloweeNightJW
09-09-2004, 06:44 PM
but is it pan and scan or open matte?
Open matte.
IGotsNewShoes
09-09-2004, 06:46 PM
It was a DTV movie, was it not shot to be shown full frame?
Deus Ex Machina
09-09-2004, 09:37 PM
Open matte.
That's cool...I don't mind open matte...I just can't stand pan and scan
Cyberdemon
09-09-2004, 11:18 PM
I see the UK have a Basket Case 2 + Basket Case 3 DVD out.
Might order this along with Incredible Melting Man.
MartinD1
09-10-2004, 02:59 AM
Man, these movies were cheap in the making, they were never shot widescreen so unless you chop heads and feets you won't have them anamorphic.
HalloweeNightJW
09-10-2004, 03:29 AM
Man, these movies were cheap in the making, they were never shot widescreen so unless you chop heads and feets you won't have them anamorphic.
Exactly.
betterdan
09-10-2004, 03:33 AM
Man, these movies were cheap in the making, they were never shot widescreen so unless you chop heads and feets you won't have them anamorphic.
Like I've said before it could still be anamorphic and not be widescreen.
HalloweeNightJW
09-10-2004, 03:39 AM
Like I've said before it could still be anamorphic and not be widescreen.
They're all matted at 1.85:1. Looks like Fox just cheaped out on a new 16X9 transfer. Like I said before, fuckers... :fuck: :bs:
puddytay
09-10-2004, 03:41 AM
is this a shitty vhs to dvd transfer?
betterdan
09-10-2004, 03:57 AM
They're all matted at 1.85:1. Looks like Fox just cheaped out on a new 16X9 transfer. Like I said before, fuckers... :fuck: :bs:
Huh? I thought you agreed with MartinD1 that the movie was never meant to be widescreen. Now you are saying they are fuckers by not making it widescreen? :hum:
Also my post about being anamorphic and not widescreen meant that a non widescreen movie (a 1.33:1 movie) could be anamorphic on a dvd. It would just have black bars on the side like Anchor Bay does with a lot of stuff. The latest example is on the new Dawn set. I watched the Document of the Dead on my widescreen set and the dvd had black bars on the side so the movie wouldn't be stretched out and look awful. That is one of the reasons I love Anchor Bay so much, they go that little extra mile for us.
HalloweeNightJW
09-10-2004, 04:38 AM
Huh? I thought you agreed with MartinD1 that the movie was never meant to be widescreen. Now you are saying they are fuckers by not making it widescreen? :hum:
Also my post about being anamorphic and not widescreen meant that a non widescreen movie (a 1.33:1 movie) could be anamorphic on a dvd. It would just have black bars on the side like Anchor Bay does with a lot of stuff. The latest example is on the new Dawn set. I watched the Document of the Dead on my widescreen set and the dvd had black bars on the side so the movie wouldn't be stretched out and look awful. That is one of the reasons I love Anchor Bay so much, they go that little extra mile for us.
Just because a 1.33:1 film has black bars on the sides doesn't mean its anamorphic. You're example about AB's Dawn supplements is really a nicety on their part. Its enhanced for 16X9 TV's, but not exactly, in technical terms, anamorphic. There are still bars on the side just as if you were watching a non-HDTV channel where there are grey bars. Still doesn't fill up the entire screen and still plenty of chances for burn-in.
As far as Basket Case 3 goes, I never agreed that it was never meant to be widescreen. I said that it was an open matte transfer on the DVD (just as it was on the R2 DVD I got rid of because the R1 was announced 16X9). I'd bet my bottom dollar that Henenlotter shot the trilogy open matte and they were soft matted for their limited (as far as 2 and 3 go) theatrical run. I'm saying Fox are fuckers because it was announced anamorphic (albeit matted) and hit the streets full. As a long time widescreen TV owner I know that whether a title is 16X9 enhanced or not is important to me.
betterdan
09-10-2004, 05:24 AM
Ok I guess I misunderstood you when you said exactly to MartinD1's comment.
I still consider the black bars on the side of a 1.33:1 show to be anamorphic (only because I don't know the exact term for it) as it is manipulating it to fit a widescreen set.
Yes you can get burn in from the bars if your tv is not calibrated properly but if you do calibrate it properly then you really shouldn't have any worries about it.
HalloweeNightJW
09-10-2004, 11:50 AM
Yes you can get burn in from the bars if your tv is not calibrated properly but if you do calibrate it properly then you really shouldn't have any worries about it.
Of course you should. Calibration has nothing to do with it. You leave a 4:3 image on a 16X9 set for too long and you will get burn in, calibrated or not. I speak from experience here unfortunately. :cry:
betterdan
09-10-2004, 01:19 PM
I disagree. I have my tv on all night sometimes displaying 4x3 material. I am boring so it's usually on the Fox News channel and displaying bars on the sides and their ticker at the bottom and I have no trace of burn in after a few years of doing this.
Calibration has a ton to do with it. If your contrast and brightness (to a lesser extent) are set too high (like they do from the factory so the tvs will be more noticeable in the stores) then you will more than likely experience burn in. Other than the burn in issue you really should have your tv calibrated or attempt to do it yourself just for the increase in picture quality.
puddytay
09-10-2004, 04:26 PM
once again how is the quality anyone know? Is it dvd quality or vhs?
dwatts
09-10-2004, 05:03 PM
I thought the argument was - there is no real point in making 4:3 anamorphic because - since there ARE no bars at the top and bottom, you couldn't get any more vertical resolution. Anamorphic is all about vertical resolution. Hence, no advantage other than not having to adjust the settings (it won't be stretched).
I know I came to this late :D
betterdan
09-10-2004, 05:55 PM
Yes anamorphic does give you more resolution but it also formats the video to fit a widescreen set. Not having to stretch a 4:3 show is a very good reason to do this unless you like to watch stretched people.
Some widescreen tvs let you add bars on the sides of nonanamorphic material while in progressive mode, but mine and some others do not so I like it when 4x3 material is anamorphic (or whatever the proper term is).
dwatts
09-10-2004, 07:28 PM
My point is, it wouldn't give 4:3 more resolution. Vertically, 4:3 consumes all available space anyway - it IS at maximum resolution. At least as I understand it.
So as i stated in my previous post, at best 4:3 in anamorphic prevents me from having to hit a button on my remote. Not a big deal for me, as it happens. I guess I don't understand why equipment today wouldn't let you add bars to anything you wanted. If I couldn't do that, I simply wouldn't buy it.
betterdan
09-10-2004, 07:50 PM
Most widescreen tvs were made where you couldn't change the display settings while watching HD or progressive signals up until recently. My tv is about 3.5 years old. It doesn't require much effort at all for them to make a disc anamorphic or to put the black bars on the sides of 4x3 material so why not just do it?
You are correct that it doesn't give any more resolution but it looks a hell of a lot better than watching it stretched out.
dwatts
09-10-2004, 07:58 PM
-- It doesn't require much effort at all for them to make a disc anamorphic or to put the black bars on the sides of 4x3 material so why not just do it?--
I can only guess that it's because the main benefit of anamorphic is resolution, not the fact that you don't have to adjust your set. So they don't bother. In the majority of homes, still today, they'd gain nothing by making them anamorphic. That's just a guess though.
You could always watch them in non-progressive mode I suppose.
betterdan
09-10-2004, 08:04 PM
I'm just glad Anchor Bay doesn't just take the easy way out and actually does this to a lot of their 4x3 material. Hopefully others will follow.
HalloweeNightJW
09-11-2004, 07:52 AM
I disagree. I have my tv on all night sometimes displaying 4x3 material. I am boring so it's usually on the Fox News channel and displaying bars on the sides and their ticker at the bottom and I have no trace of burn in after a few years of doing this.
Calibration has a ton to do with it. If your contrast and brightness (to a lesser extent) are set too high (like they do from the factory so the tvs will be more noticeable in the stores) then you will more than likely experience burn in. Other than the burn in issue you really should have your tv calibrated or attempt to do it yourself just for the increase in picture quality.
It was a few years in with my (calibrated) TV when I got burn in from leaving 4X3 images on there for too long. Continue it at your own risk I guess.
HalloweeNightJW
09-11-2004, 07:54 AM
once again how is the quality anyone know? Is it dvd quality or vhs?
I hit two stores today and neither had it, so I guess the wondering will continue. Its not like the major DVD sites are racing to review Basket Case 3.
rxfiend
09-11-2004, 10:43 AM
i ordered the dvd the other day (my gf loves this movie) and it should be here either today or Monday. when i get it, i'll let everyone know the deal about the disc.
HalloweeNightJW
09-11-2004, 04:13 PM
i ordered the dvd the other day (my gf loves this movie) and it should be here either today or Monday. when i get it, i'll let everyone know the deal about the disc.
What a great gf! Thanks in advance.
rxfiend
09-12-2004, 05:31 AM
well, DvD empire came through once again and the dvd arrived today. I popped the disc into my PC dvd drive to check it out. It looks like this was mastered from a video source. At the very top of the screen, it has oh, what do you call it, i guess video noise. i see it all the time when i capture videos on my PC (on tvs its not noticeable due to overscan). Any way, i'd say it's a little better than VHS. it's pretty grainy and not sharp at all. looks like a dvd you'd find in the bargain bin. as for special features, there isn't any.
puddytay
09-12-2004, 05:36 AM
son of a bitch bastards.
Joni Backman
09-12-2004, 12:11 PM
It looks like this was mastered from a video source. At the very top of the screen, it has oh, what do you call it, i guess video noise. i see it all the time when i capture videos on my PC (on tvs its not noticeable due to overscan). Any way, i'd say it's a little better than VHS. it's pretty grainy and not sharp at all. looks like a dvd you'd find in the bargain bin. as for special features, there isn't any.
Sounds like same kind of shitty release as UK's Double Feature with part 2.
No need to update mine.
Here's couple of screen shots from UK release. R1 release can't look any worse than this.
dwatts
09-12-2004, 01:46 PM
I found this film silly, and entertaining for some reason. When you think what they could have done with the franchise, it makes me wonder. Those screenshots make it look like a gorefest, which it's not. I thought this current disc was dirt cheap? I know the UK one was.
rxfiend
09-12-2004, 03:23 PM
i got the disc for $7 off dvdempire. for that price, it's worth it.
The R1 looks pretty similiar to the screenshots above.
Joni Backman
09-12-2004, 05:45 PM
Those screenshots make it look like a gorefest, which it's not.
Screenshots where you see lips ripped and severed heads without a drop of blood make BC3 look like gorefest? I think deathscenes like the one in shots 2 & 3 show how campy that film is.
Anyway my intention was to show how bad UK disc looks, not to make Basket Case 3 look like anything.
dwatts
09-12-2004, 05:59 PM
--Screenshots where you see lips ripped and severed heads without a drop of blood make BC3 look like gorefest?--
I can rephrase, it makes it look like a violent movie - which it's not. ;)
HalloweeNightJW
09-13-2004, 02:00 AM
well, DvD empire came through once again and the dvd arrived today. I popped the disc into my PC dvd drive to check it out. It looks like this was mastered from a video source. At the very top of the screen, it has oh, what do you call it, i guess video noise. i see it all the time when i capture videos on my PC (on tvs its not noticeable due to overscan). Any way, i'd say it's a little better than VHS. it's pretty grainy and not sharp at all. looks like a dvd you'd find in the bargain bin. as for special features, there isn't any.
Round of applause for Fox everyone...
IGotsNewShoes
09-13-2004, 02:11 AM
*claps for FOX* Basket Case 2 and 3 were fucking stupid anyway.
VideoViolence
09-13-2004, 04:56 AM
Fox, release this, you ass monkeys! *Flips bird. Then moons and breaks wind in Fox's face*
fattyjoe37
02-07-2010, 05:33 AM
I can understand why Henenlotter isn't fond of this film and bashes it often. It's not the worst movie ever made, but it's easily the weakest of the Basket Case films. Instead of going in a new direction with the story, like 2 did after 1, it just rehashes stuff from 2. I was hoping maybe this sequel would go back to the sleazy horror aspect of the first movie, but instead it went further down the comedy route from 2. I will say that I did greatly enjoy the jailbreak scene though.
SynapseFilms
02-07-2010, 11:15 AM
Synapse will be releasing a re-mastered BASKET CASE 3, as soon as we can find the proper materials to do so. The licensor is having issues locating the negatives, but we're on the right track. Once we find the proper things, we'll be creating a new HD master.
Hellbilly
02-07-2010, 11:29 AM
Awesome news! Looking forward to that release :)
Shannafey
02-07-2010, 02:50 PM
How ironic!! I picked up the old DVD for $3 at Big Lots a few months back and decided to watch it last night. First time I've ever seen the film (haven't seen #2!!). The transfer was horrific, but it was a fun film!!
Myron Breck
02-07-2010, 08:19 PM
Thanks, Synapse! Keep up the good work!
MorallySound
02-07-2010, 09:56 PM
Synapse will be releasing a re-mastered BASKET CASE 3, as soon as we can find the proper materials to do so. The licensor is having issues locating the negatives, but we're on the right track. Once we find the proper things, we'll be creating a new HD master.
Cannot wait! :banana:
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