View Full Version : Nightmare on Elm Street DVD Review
Paul0889
09-20-2006, 08:28 PM
dread central just posted a new review for the upcoming dvd! good news is....it does infact include all the deleted scenes and alternate takes including some never before seen (i.e. footage of freddy dragging tina across the ceiling) and it also has the alternate endings. this is definetely a must buy now.
fceurich39
09-20-2006, 08:37 PM
same here when i read that review i nearly wet myself cant wait for this and the texas chainsaw massacre ultimate edition dvd
marcx
09-20-2006, 09:15 PM
This is killing me as my HD player arrives soon and NOES is coming out on HD overseas in December---
Please give me the strength to wait this out and not triple-dip!
Workshed
09-20-2006, 09:17 PM
Link Link Link! Please!
Ooooh I am sooooo getting this!!!! That review leaves no room for doubt. This is going to be a perfect disc! :D
onebyone
09-20-2006, 09:23 PM
dread central just posted a new review for the upcoming dvd! good news is....it does infact include all the deleted scenes and alternate takes including some never before seen (i.e. footage of freddy dragging tina across the ceiling) and it also has the alternate endings. this is definetely a must buy now.
And there you have it (http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?name=Reviews&req=showcontent&id=1085) - I am off the fence about getting this one. Thanks for posting this.
Workshed
09-20-2006, 09:28 PM
And there you have it (http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?name=Reviews&req=showcontent&id=1085) - I am off the fence about getting this one. Thanks for posting this.
Thanks for the link. And hey hey hey, what a cover to that DVD. Wow.
bigdaddyhorse
09-20-2006, 09:35 PM
And there you have it (http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?name=Reviews&req=showcontent&id=1085) - I am off the fence about getting this one. Thanks for posting this.
Holy mother of fuck!:eek1:
There was no way I was gonna get this disc being the ower of the boxset and laserdisc (and dvdr or laserdisc extras), but now I fucking have to. At least a couple things will remain exclusive to my precious laserdisc, but New Line proves to be the best dvd production company.
I think I'll try to wait a bit, but if it's super-cheap somewhere first week I know I won't be able to resist it.:( Curse you and your excellence NL, you get more of my $.
Katatonia
09-20-2006, 10:03 PM
All the deleted scenes, and more never seen?! Awesome...I was going to buy it anyway, but that just makes it all the more worthy!
Numania
09-20-2006, 10:15 PM
Balls! I wasn't getting this either. Now I probably am. I'll try and wait, but who the fuck knows. I'm kind of a shithead.
Ash J. Williams
09-20-2006, 10:23 PM
I'm seeing this tonight in the theater. Are the Alternate Endings on the disc the same ones as the box set has? That is, a recut, unwatchable version of the existing ending and another recut, unwatchable version of the existing ending, which you must complete a vague, nearly impossible puzzle to watch.
DrHerbertWest
09-20-2006, 10:27 PM
Balls! I wasn't getting this either. Now I probably am. I'll try and wait, but who the fuck knows. I'm kind of a shithead.
:lol:
MorallySound
09-20-2006, 10:31 PM
Balls! I wasn't getting this either. Now I probably am. I'll try and wait, but who the fuck knows. I'm kind of a shithead.
Same here. Seeing as I own the boxset, I wasn't goning to double dip. But now I have to.
This Tuesday is officially Double Dip Day. First the Street Trash Meltdown Edition, and now this (because of this review and news of course).
wago70
09-20-2006, 10:42 PM
A sure buy from me. Love this film!!!!
maskull
09-20-2006, 11:58 PM
I was going to wait a while before I picked this one up but damnit this sounds so good! I'll buy it right away. Man, I love New Line.
DanceEnergy24
09-21-2006, 12:53 AM
Sounds like the only thing that could possibly make this edition any better would be if New Line would have released the uncut version of the film. I have the uncut UK videotape which features Tina's extended blood splashing off the bed scene. Only problem is that it won't play in my VCR so I have to get it transferred to a DVD or videotape that will actually play. New Line could save me some trouble and money if they'd release the full uncut and unedited version. Hey, if they can release The Dream Child uncut on video, why not the original and much better classic?
Mattster
09-21-2006, 03:42 AM
I just came.
Best news of the week.
Myron Breck
09-21-2006, 05:02 AM
I just came.
Likewise. Sign me up!!! :banana:
DanceEnergy24
09-21-2006, 05:51 AM
Does no one care about the UNCUT VERSION of Elm Street? LOL Still, this new release is a no-brainer DVD purchase for fans.
Oh HELL. I will have to own this one, for damn sure. :cry: <-- these are tears of joy
Damn it. Tuesday is going to put me in debt.
mclay18
09-22-2006, 09:37 PM
I kind of wanted a more thorough review of the video and audio for the SE, as well as well as actual visual comparisons between the 1999 version and the 2006 edition to see how much better it looks. (And now we know New Line didn't skip out on the DTS-ES track after all!)
And the featurettes and the new commentary seem really interesting. I'll pick it up too. BTW, are there any more ANOES: SE reviews up on any other sites?
onebyone
09-24-2006, 02:10 AM
DVDTalk just posted a pretty damn detailed review here (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=24001). Any little thing you want to know about the release is in there.
ReelFear
09-24-2006, 04:33 AM
got my copy today! The disc is out there.
bigdaddyhorse
09-24-2006, 05:43 AM
DVDTalk just posted a pretty damn detailed review here (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=24001). Any little thing you want to know about the release is in there.
Cool review, although it sounds like the deleted scenes are again left off and replaced with short alternate takes. No mention of the cemetary scene for example.
All in all, there's enough stuff here that I will still be double-dipping.
Katatonia
09-25-2006, 08:21 PM
For those buying it at Best Buy, here's a printable in store coupon (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&cmp=&id=pcmcat101400050032) for an extra $2 off.
The end price would then be $15.99 there.
bigdaddyhorse
09-25-2006, 08:37 PM
For those buying it at Best Buy, here's a printable in store coupon (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&cmp=&id=pcmcat101400050032) for an extra $2 off.
The end price would then be $15.99 there.
Thanks, I'll probably end up using that since no else has it in their ads.
baggio
09-25-2006, 09:31 PM
Being an owner of the box set. I find it real hard to spend the money for this edition. Not too much extras to warrent the purchase. Plus the fact that this dvd is about half of what I paid for the entire box set. If my version was bare bones or full frame, then yes, but I highly doubt I'm buying this dvd.
Most of the deleted scenes and extras from the LaserDisc still aren't here, but there is some new stuff that hasn't been seen before.
Mattster
09-27-2006, 07:23 AM
Most of the deleted scenes and extras from the LaserDisc still aren't here, but there is some new stuff that hasn't been seen before.
Disappointing.
bigdaddyhorse
09-27-2006, 08:38 AM
And there you have it (http://dreadcentral.com/index.php?name=Reviews&req=showcontent&id=1085) - I am off the fence about getting this one. Thanks for posting this.
From this review:
I've never seen the footage of Freddy dragging Tina across the ceiling during her death scene.
After watching most of disc 2 (and definitly where this should've been, only missed "Night Terrors: The Origins of Wes Craven's Nightmares") and I still have never seen it. I'll probably try the inififilm part tomorow and hope this is there. Maybe it's like the bus montage from the Final Destination 2 disc, wheer it's not in the all access, only the during movie features.
Definitly disappointing the deleted scenes aren't on here either. Those alt. endings look great though, much cleaner than I've seen them before (too bad they aren't that great). Was hoping to see the rest cleaned up, but at least it gives me reason to hold the laserdisc besides the jacket.:)
I did really enjoy what was on the second disc though, nice to see new stuff and not all re-hashed facts and clips from eariler releases. Now where's Freddy dragging Tina damnit!
You can chapter skip every Infinifilm feature, so you don't have to sit there waiting for each one to pop up.
When I said most of the LaserDisc extras aren't here, try over 90 percent. I watched the entire DVD and Laser supplements last night. Sad.
Anyway... Amanda Wyss: I'd still hit it. Hard.
Paul0889
09-28-2006, 01:13 PM
has anyone noticed that the new audio mixes on the dvd are totally screwed up?? Some music cues are cut, like when Rod jumps out of the bushes at Nancy, the sheet wrapping around Rod, the screeching of Freddy's glove when he's in Nancy's basement whispering where are you. Some sound effects are mixed louder or softer than necessary, and the louder scare cues are softened like when Nancy steps in the stairs. the original mono track is even missing the music cues, but if you listen to the commentary you can hear them. i'd still keep the original box set dvd for the original audio.
My initial amazement about this DVD has begun to fade after hearing about all these problems. First no deleted scenes and now the sound is all bad?? I'm going to wait a while before I buy it. Hoping R2 will have these problems fixed (although I seriously doubt it) or else I'll just wait until the price drops a bit ... But really, this is very, very disappointing :(
Peter Vincent
09-28-2006, 01:43 PM
My initial amazement about this DVD has begun to fade after hearing about all these problems. First no deleted scenes and now the sound is all bad?? I'm going to wait a while before I buy it. Hoping R2 will have these problems fixed (although I seriously doubt it) or else I'll just wait until the price drops a bit ... But really, this is very, very disappointing :(
I'm with U, at $20 a pop I can wait. I like my original disc anyway...it serves its purpose.
gunner
09-28-2006, 02:57 PM
I skimmed through the discs the last couple of nights. Didn't notice the missing audio blips. The video is a big improvement, especially if you have a TV/Player capable of progressive scan. The added clarity & detail is amazing!
There is indeed 9 or 10 deleted scenes & outtakes included, just check out the 4th segment of the "Never Sleep Again – The Making Of A Nightmare On Elm Street" docu. Not a huge fan of the "Infinifilm" layout, but the new dvd is hands down a must-have for fans.
Pass. This "pop-up" shit sounds dumb. I think we can all agree an alternate cut of the film is what everyone really wants. Are you seriously going to look at the special features more than once? Hell, I own DVDs that I've never checked out the special features on.
maybrick
09-28-2006, 03:10 PM
has anyone noticed that the new audio mixes on the dvd are totally screwed up?? Some music cues are cut, like when Rod jumps out of the bushes at Nancy, the sheet wrapping around Rod, the screeching of Freddy's glove when he's in Nancy's basement whispering where are you. Some sound effects are mixed louder or softer than necessary, and the louder scare cues are softened like when Nancy steps in the stairs. the original mono track is even missing the music cues, but if you listen to the commentary you can hear them. i'd still keep the original box set dvd for the original audio.
As I said in the other thread, it sounds to me like it's a fault in your sound system. I suspect you may need new speaker wires.
Paul0889
09-28-2006, 08:07 PM
no it's definately not my surround system. other people have reported these audio problems on other boards.
bigdaddyhorse
09-28-2006, 08:25 PM
There is indeed 9 or 10 deleted scenes & outtakes included, just check out the 4th segment of the "Never Sleep Again – The Making Of A Nightmare On Elm Street" docu.
Only one or 2 of those are from the batch on the laserdisc (Tina picking up the worms in the alley is from the "deleted scenes" segment, another clip is from "odds and ends"). That being said, the rest of the stuff isn't on the laserdisc or encylopedia disc.
The picture is amazing, even on my standard 32" it's a big improvement. HD-DVD version (for those into that) comes out on Christmas, although only in region 2.
I only watched the first half hour or so, but didn't notice any sound problems. I thought the DTS mix sounded great, but I haven't done a back to back comparison either. If a couple cues are tuned down or missing it didn't distract me at all.
Mortis
09-28-2006, 08:36 PM
I've been reading about this and there are quite a few audio changes in both the 5.1 and mono tracks. Why do they almost always seem to fuck up these new deluxe releases in some way or another?
Paul0889
09-29-2006, 02:18 AM
despite the audio problems, i think this dvd is still a must have, especially if you can get it for $20 or less. i know best buy has it for $17. i just wish new line didn't fuck up the audio...
Paul0889
09-29-2006, 02:29 AM
read this from dvdtalk, http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=458627&page=8&pp=25
pages 8 and 9 talk about the audio problems and the missing sound cues and all
shithead
09-29-2006, 02:54 AM
read this from dvdtalk, http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=458627&page=8&pp=25
pages 8 and 9 talk about the audio problems and the missing sound cues and all
Being broke i was looking for a reason not to buy this, and there it is.
captain_joe
09-29-2006, 04:58 AM
It's a great DVD but I'm pissed about the missing DTS track. Damn 2.0 French track
DanceEnergy24
09-29-2006, 04:38 PM
Why is it that studios continually seem to screw up DVDs? Friday 1's original release was a hybrid cut, Sleepaway Camp missing footage from the VHS version, Happy Birthday to Me with a completely different score, and now Elm Street with messed up audio! I can't tell you how many times I've purchased a DVD and it turned out that the VHS version, an earlier DVD release, or a foreign DVD was better for either being uncut or having the correct audio tracks. I'm getting sick of wasting my money with bullshit screw ups like this. The films I mentioned above cover all different studios too such as Paramount Pictures, Anchor Bay Entertainment, Columbia Tristar and now New Line Cinema. I am surprised that New Line is on the list of screw ups considering they usually release stellar DVDs. It's also well documented that they know Elm Street gave them their big start.
Myron Breck
09-29-2006, 06:40 PM
Yeah, I'm never buying another DVD again. Ever.
Mortis
09-29-2006, 07:53 PM
I can't remember if anyone mentioned it, but people are saying that the sound changes were also done to the version shown in theaters recently.
The version shown in theaters was just the DVD projected using the pre-show projector.
DanceEnergy24
09-30-2006, 09:55 PM
Anyone read that there were audio changes on The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Ultimate Edition as well? I don't remember there ever being this many screw-ups! Like I posted on the other board: What is so hard about having an ultimate edition within one package with the best picture, the best extras and CORRECT audio tracks?
Myron Breck
09-30-2006, 11:47 PM
Anyone read that there were audio changes on The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Ultimate Edition as well?
SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!! :mad:
Edit: Just checked the TCM thread--so, yeah. :mad:
DanceEnergy24
10-01-2006, 06:02 PM
I've noticed that a lot of people on the TCM board have stated that even with the "minor" audio problems that the DVD is still "leaps and bounds" better than any previous release. I wrote that I might have to see for myself how much the audio changes bother me which is what I may also do for the Infinifilm Elm Street release.
Korngold
10-01-2006, 11:49 PM
Honestly guys this isn't a big deal for me. I understand where all of you people complaining are coming from, but it isn't that big of a deal. I got more upset about the audio changes in Day of the Dead and Happy Birthday to me.
It's not like New Line to mess up like this, but it isn't like they changed the finger knives to walkie talkies.
ReNeGaDe
10-01-2006, 11:56 PM
it pissed me off watching it in the theater not hearing the stinger when rod comes out, or the screech when freddy scratches his glove against the boiler!!
Crazy Ralph
10-02-2006, 12:16 AM
This shit pisses me off too.... Now I'm on second minds on whether I should buy it or not.
DanceEnergy24
10-02-2006, 01:06 AM
I was pissed off upon hearing this info as well but I may eventually purchase this for the extras. I have the original DVD from the box set so it would be cool to compare the two.
Honestly guys this isn't a big deal for me. I understand where all of you people complaining are coming from, but it isn't that big of a deal. I got more upset about the audio changes in Day of the Dead and Happy Birthday to me.
It's not like New Line to mess up like this, but it isn't like they changed the finger knives to walkie talkies.
It IS a big deal, considering those cues were tension builders or "jump" moments.
Korngold
10-04-2006, 02:37 AM
It IS a big deal, considering those cues were tension builders or "jump" moments.
Esten, I understand your concern, but I just don't see it your way. Yet I also have the box set and Image double tape VHS.
Franco
10-04-2006, 06:53 AM
Why is it that studios continually seem to screw up DVDs? Friday 1's original release was a hybrid cut, Sleepaway Camp missing footage from the VHS version, Happy Birthday to Me with a completely different score, and now Elm Street with messed up audio! I can't tell you how many times I've purchased a DVD and it turned out that the VHS version, an earlier DVD release, or a foreign DVD was better for either being uncut or having the correct audio tracks. I'm getting sick of wasting my money with bullshit screw ups like this. The films I mentioned above cover all different studios too such as Paramount Pictures, Anchor Bay Entertainment, Columbia Tristar and now New Line Cinema. I am surprised that New Line is on the list of screw ups considering they usually release stellar DVDs. It's also well documented that they know Elm Street gave them their big start.
Get a region-free DVD player and make extensive use of DVDCompare, DanceEnergy! :cool:
Esten, I understand your concern, but I just don't see it your way. Yet I also have the box set and Image double tape VHS.
I have every format release of the film, but I'm more concerned about people that haven't seen the film before, and their view of it being tainted because of the audio fuck-ups.
ReelFear
10-05-2006, 09:35 PM
Watched the new version last night, prepared for the worst.
Although the missing sound elements are annoying to people who have seen the movie countless times, in the grand scheme of things this isn't the end of the world. I compared the disc to my original new line DVD and i noticed the splash sound effect when Tina hits the bed is better in the new version!!
the old one sounded like she lands in a swimming pool. I missed the stinger when Rod jumps out and the screeching razors in the basement, but the face rip and the quicksand stairs didn't bother me too much. Also a heavy blue tint was added for the sleep therapy scene and the ending when Nancy takes freddy's power away. I consider this new disc to be an 'alternate" version of the movie we all love.
In my opinion keep your old disc, but don't be afraid to double dip for the new one.
DanceEnergy24
10-06-2006, 07:19 PM
I have the box set DVD as well as an uncut videotape from the UK that I haven't gotten converted yet. Hmmm, an "alternate" cut. I could live with that.
mclay18
10-09-2006, 02:30 AM
I have a question about the new NOES 2-disc release: does the movie have English and Spanish subtitles? And considering that New Line has offered up optional subtitles to their video extras for movies such as LOTR, "Freddy vs. Jason" and "The New World", I was wondering if optional subtitles were available for the Infinifilm extras as well.
Nilbog
10-11-2006, 04:03 AM
I can't believe the color "correction" in some of the scenes (Nancy at the Dr's office; it's covered in the DVDTALK review). People wet apeshit when it was done to Halloween but nary a whimper for NOES?
Doombear
10-11-2006, 04:29 PM
Is it true that most the material from the 2-VHS Collector's set hasn't made its way to this Inifilm DVD?
Myron Breck
10-11-2006, 05:13 PM
M'Kay. I'm not buying this now.
bigdaddyhorse
10-11-2006, 05:38 PM
Is it true that most the material from the 2-VHS Collector's set hasn't made its way to this Inifilm DVD?
If the 2-VHS had the laserdisc stuff, then no.
The deleted scenes are still missing, although there are lots of alternate takes and short clips here that weren't on the laserdisc.
All the alternate endings are here though, and they've never looked better. Too bad there's nothing special about any of them.
For the most part, it's a bunch of new extras.
Korngold
10-12-2006, 02:52 AM
If the 2-VHS had the laserdisc stuff, then no.
The deleted scenes are still missing, although there are lots of alternate takes and short clips here that weren't on the laserdisc.
All the alternate endings are here though, and they've never looked better. Too bad there's nothing special about any of them.
For the most part, it's a bunch of new extras.
I do have the 2-vhs se, but not the laserdisc version. If I remember correctly, the laserdisc has a couple more things (rejection letters from studio heads) but the vhs does have the same deleted scenes. I have to say I'm really disappointed that glen's bloody body rising from the bed didn't make it on the dvd. That scene is awesome.
bigdaddyhorse
10-12-2006, 04:50 AM
I do have the 2-vhs se, but not the laserdisc version. If I remember correctly, the laserdisc has a couple more things (rejection letters from studio heads) but the vhs does have the same deleted scenes. I have to say I'm really disappointed that glen's bloody body rising from the bed didn't make it on the dvd. That scene is awesome.
Does the VHS have the "Odds and Ends" section, with the alternate opening credits footage and other alt footage (mostly without sound)? Some of that stuff (opening, Freddy & Tina alt. takes, Nancy falling bluescreen) made the dvd.
Strange what is and isn't on the new dvd.
I will not buy this new DVD. It is too many error for me and I rather wait to the HD-DVD version.
Elite LD (Supervise transfer by DP Jacques Haitkin)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3240/elite33xg4.jpg
New DVD
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7281/7wf3.jpg
Ew, why is that so blue? I'm not sure I'll like that... I'll have to see more comparisons I guess.
More caps:
Elite LD
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8874/elite1tn4.jpg
New DVD
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4678/3an3.jpg
Some review I read (don't remember which one, but it was one of the earliest ones) said that those new color corrections actually improved the film. That said, what does a DVD-reviewer know about improving classics?
I just have to assume (or at least hope) that New Line didn't just color-correct the film "just because", but rather because someone, be it Craven or Haitkin, approved it ... Just because one version is "officially" Haitkin approved doesn't mean that another one isn't just because it doesn't say anywhere on the box. But that's just me being optimistic and hopeful ... I really want that DVD!
And really, when DVD transfers are said to be "approved" by the director or the cinematographer, how can we be sure? Can it be that they just see random clips to be satisfied or do they watch the entire film? Or do they actually supervise the entire transfer, frame-by-frame, scene-by-scene? I mean, isn't it possible for a cinematographer to not properly remember how a certain scene was "originally" meant to look when the film is over 20 years old?
Haitkin did supervised the Elite LD and I don't think he did it on this new DVD. It sounds like a reversed Halloween (old AB 2-disc dvd vs the newer) case to me.
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