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X-human
03-04-2008, 01:14 AM
I'll chop an e-mail exchange together with all the relevant information: Thanks for the message. And yes, we do plan on releasing our titles on Blu-Ray. We're currently in the beginning stages of getting them transferred, but you can eventually expect for us to have them available. If you'd like, I'll keep your name in mind when I have more details on when they'll be available and I can let you know.

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Most likely to be first is The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but I would think that Magic and Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer would come soon after.

Thanks,
Nicole
Dark Sky Filmshttp://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13281308#post13281308

Not too thrilled with that selection, I want me some Spider Baby, but it's certainly a start.

Mattapooh
03-04-2008, 02:53 PM
I dunno how excited I'd be to see old 16mm prints in high definition. I get the impression that the DVDs of TCM and Henry that are out now can't really be improved upon that much.

X-human
03-05-2008, 05:47 PM
Don May Jr who did an HD restoration of TCM would disagree with that, as you can read from this post: http://www.horrordvds.com/vb3forum/showpost.php?p=233894&postcount=9

16mm and HD are actually a very good match, mileage varies of course.

geeare
03-05-2008, 05:55 PM
I dunno how excited I'd be to see old 16mm prints in high definition. I get the impression that the DVDs of TCM and Henry that are out now can't really be improved upon that much.

you need to buy a blu-ray player and watch a few of them. you will be amazed.

Paul0889
03-05-2008, 07:33 PM
still wish they'd fix the audio dropouts/other difficulties with the tracks on their TCM disc.

latenite
03-05-2008, 07:51 PM
I dunno how excited I'd be to see old 16mm prints in high definition. I get the impression that the DVDs of TCM and Henry that are out now can't really be improved upon that much.

I somewhat agree with that statement but 8mm has a slightly higher theoretical resolution than high definition, 16 obviously much higher.

Mattapooh
03-05-2008, 10:17 PM
I'll be as thrilled as anyone to get TCM and Henry looking great in HD (even if Henry was shot and meant for a 4:3 ratio.... I'm assuming they'll just put a matte in there), so this is pretty interesting.

I've always thought that 16mm tends to lose detail as you blow it up (ie. El Mariachi going from 16mm to 35mm for a theatrical print.... ditto for Clerks), so it's nice knowing that I've been mislead somewhere along the way.

VenicuS
03-05-2008, 11:10 PM
Texas Chainsaw on Blu-Ray? Sweet Jeezus, I'm liking my new Playstation 3 more and more each day, especially if the audio is given a solid cleanup as well.

X-human
05-30-2008, 10:30 PM
Bloody-Disgusting reports (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/12427) a 9/30 release date for TCM.

KamuiX
05-30-2008, 10:58 PM
Bloody-Disgusting reports (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/12427) a 9/30 release date for TCM.

Awesome...one of the few films I love enough to buy over and over again. I had it on VHS and bought all 3 versions on DVD, so what's another? :D

rhett
05-31-2008, 01:25 AM
I somewhat agree with that statement but 8mm has a slightly higher theoretical resolution than high definition, 16 obviously much higher.
If you go by theory my Neon should be getting 29 miles to the gallon, and it doesn't come close to that! Likewise, anyone who has shot on both formats would be able to tell you that HD blows away 8mm in terms of clarity, sharpness, etc. Most now give HD the upper edge on 16mm too - it's basically a grain structure preference.

The real benefits of bumping up a 16mm print from DVD to HD is not really the added sharpness or resolution, but more the accuracy of color reproduction. NTSC is a terrible format for color - it was made to be backwards compatible with the old black and white standard, and the quality has suffered since. Reds, especially, are terrible. HD rectifies that though, and the trueness of color saturation and depth now comes close to replicating film. Film's still got the edge - even the Ektachrome stuff I shoot on 8mm is richer in color than anything on my HVX, but HD brings it a whole lot closer.

I don't doubt that TCM will look noticeably better on HD, but at the same time, I'm perfectly satisfied with the DVD and all the other DVDs in my collection. I'll wait for Yello-Ray before I really get excited for newer formats.

X-human
06-08-2008, 09:50 PM
Isn't 1080 ever so slightly better than 16mm? So a 2k scan would still be an improvement. 8mm is certainly surpassed by HD in terms of resolution, but from what I've seen of 8mm projection it still has better colors than HD. So perhaps the only benefit of a future 6k scan of TCM would be better color fidelity.

Don May Jr. reports that they will be using the corrected audio track:It was shot on 16mm and blown up to 35mm for theatrical release, but, when I restored the film for Dark Sky, I stayed in the realm of the 16mm negative. I created a new 16mm element from the 16mm A/B roll negative and transferred that... I didn't use anything in 35mm for the HD transfer.

Also, I have been in contact with Dark Sky regarding the title and a representative of Dark Sky has assured me that the audio will be corrected for the BD release. Dark Sky actually DID correct the audio of the SD version, too, and I imagine you can contact them for a disc exchange to get a proper replacement... maybe? I know they sent me a few fixed ones. I bug Dark Sky all the time about this because, had I been in charge of the audio portion of the transfer (which I would've gladly supervised had they let me), that mistake wouldn't have happened in the first place! :)http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/ht-software-high-definition/272862-texas-chainsaw-massacre-1974-blu-ray-disc-9-30-a.html#post3383794

I haven't decided yet if I'll get this as I'm not much of a TCM fan. I may buy it just to give Dark Sky a green light to release more of their catalog.

Regurgitate
06-09-2008, 04:36 AM
I have the DVD and I will most likely get the blu ray to encourage more catalog releases. I have not seen any exchange program for the DVD to correct the audio issues. It's not worth the effort for me at this point with the new disc on the horizon.

fceurich39
07-11-2008, 07:27 PM
here is specs and cover art for texas chainsaw massacre

https://catalog.darkskyfilms.com/Display.asp?ID=86

knewby
07-11-2008, 07:49 PM
Hmmmm......Blu-Ray.....new Terri McMinn interview.....one of the greatest horror films of all time.......NO BRAINER...................:D

blu
07-26-2008, 03:10 PM
here is specs and cover art for texas chainsaw massacre

https://catalog.darkskyfilms.com/Display.asp?ID=86

Sounds like a nice disc. I've got this on order and am looking forward to it.

Ash28M
10-04-2008, 11:59 PM
Here is a positive review of the TCM [Blu-ray]

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews41/the_texas_chain_saw_massacre_blu-ray.htm

and other

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1532/texaschainsawmassacre1973.html

Matt89
10-05-2008, 12:30 AM
Yeah I was pleasantly surprised when I popped this in. The movie has (surprisingly) a high amount of detail, although it still is nowhere NEAR perfection. (However, that's to be expected, right?) The interview with Terri McMinn is also pretty interesting. Would've been nice if some of the features were in hi-def, though. But fuck, for $22.99, you can't go wrong. Perfect upgrade.

~Matt

Mutilated Prey
10-05-2008, 01:05 AM
I'm looking forward to my copy of TCM coming from Amazon.

I read reviews that say Dawn of the Dead (original) and Day of the Dead are really nice as well. For some reason Halloween got mixed reviews.

Ash28M
10-05-2008, 05:48 AM
I'm looking forward to my copy of TCM coming from Amazon.

I read reviews that say Dawn of the Dead (original) and Day of the Dead are really nice as well. For some reason Halloween got mixed reviews.

Halloween got mixed reviews because of the colour timing issues that got carried over from the 25 anniversary DVD. The Image itself never looked better though.

Matt89
10-06-2008, 02:33 AM
Yeah, Halloween looks beautiful. The blu-ray is kindof a cross between the Limited Edition transfer with its blues and oranges, and the 25th Anniversary. (The transfer, however is MUCH MUCH better on the 25th Anniversary.)

~Matt

Regurgitate
10-06-2008, 02:37 AM
I really enjoyed watching TCM on Blu Ray and the picture upgrade from the DVD is considerable even when you factor in the source is 16 mm. I had a major complaint about the DVD that there was some odd pixelation throughout the first 1/3 of the movie. I am pleased to see that it is non-existent in this Blu Ray release.

Ash28M
10-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Here is very good comparison web site on the new TCM Blu-Ray release compared to the Dark Sky DVD release.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/index.php?image=1&vergleich=texas_chain_saw_massacre#auswahl