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KR~!
04-22-2008, 12:56 PM
I know a lot of you were waiting for something like this!

http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/xq/asp/pid.162/qx/details.htm

http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/xq/asp/pid.163/qx/details.htm

http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/compare.asp?pid=162&pid=163

Roo
04-22-2008, 03:25 PM
I know a lot of you were waiting for something like this!

http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/xq/asp/pid.162/qx/details.htm

http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/xq/asp/pid.163/qx/details.htm

http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/compare.asp?pid=162&pid=163

It's a good start. I just wish the PS3 were region free. I'd jump all over that if it were.

SaviniFan
04-22-2008, 04:30 PM
Although it is nice to see region free players popping up, at that price I'll be using my PS3 for domestic releases for the forseeable future.

Livingdead102
04-22-2008, 05:20 PM
Anyone brave enough to try modding your Sony BDP-S300 yourself? http://www.stegen.com/product_info.php/products_id/1019?osCsid=daccaf0338

ekent
04-22-2008, 05:31 PM
It'd be cheaper to buy a player from each region.

Reverenddave
04-22-2008, 09:44 PM
I think the only thing you can do with these is play Region A/B Blu-Rays and Region 1/2 DVDs. It doesn't say anything about playing PAL or Region 3/4/5/6 DVDs. There aren't that many Blu-Rays that are locked Region B in the first place. And there's probably only a tiny handful of exclusive region-locked discs that aren't available in the USA. Plus, if it doesn't play PAL (I don't think any US Blu-Ray or HD-DVD machines currently play PAL), that limits the import SD-DVDs to Japan's Region 2 NTSC discs.

Can these players currently handle Profile 2.0, BD Live, etc? I wonder if Sony will try to brick them with future firmware updates.

I like being an early adopter, but I don't see much reason to upgrade to a modded player yet.

f.ramses
03-28-2009, 12:31 AM
I assume no but I was wondering if anyone here bit on one of these players and how they liked it. I recently saw this one (http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/xq/asp/pid.176/qx/details.htm) and have been itching to buy it since I have absolutely no intention of buying a region locked player! This one is quite affordable compared to the others I've seen, some of which require an additional scaler to play back PAL on NTSC TV's.
There is one thing that bothers me about these players, couldn't the studio's do something to the disc's so that newer ones no longer work on these players? I really don't know much about the protection scheme on these however I do recall hearing that it was possible for a studio to revoke device key's to do exactly this. (See here (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/07/1417253), (It's an old article and I don't know if more have since been revoked...))
These players seem risky but man do I want one! (The sad thing is that I can only think of one Blu-ray that's not Region A or unlocked that I want and it's a movie I already have on DVD (BFI Salo) lol).

The Chaostar
03-28-2009, 06:41 AM
Will wait...

The Chaostar
04-07-2009, 03:07 AM
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/hardwarereviews/momitsu_bdp-899.htm

Now this review is great.
350$ is like... 260 euro for me.

I will buy this very very soon!

f.ramses
04-09-2009, 12:33 AM
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/hardwarereviews/momitsu_bdp-899.htm

Now this review is great.
350$ is like... 260 euro for me.

I will buy this very very soon!

Thanks for posting that link, it pushes me more towards buying one of these things! The things I didn't like in the review were the two items they had under updates and the fact that you have to manually input a code to change the regions. I know the update items seem minor but who knows what they will hold for future releases, I'll have to watch that page for future updates! ...if I don't just buy one, it's almost happened several times since I found that player... :]

f.ramses
06-02-2009, 10:42 PM
Well, I finally got my BDP-899 last week and I'm pretty happy with it. There are a number of shortcomings, imo, but it's most important feature works as it should, it's region free blu-ray playback capability (as much of it as I could test anyway, I don't have any region C discs..). I was pretty curious about how this was modified, was the mod hardware, software, or both? HKFlix just ignored these questions when I asked them so I really have no idea.
Anyway, I do have a few complaints about this player, most of them arenít a big deal and I had also already heard most of them before Iíd ordered the player. Most already know but you have to manually change the Blu-Ray region code, there is no one region free setting for Blu-Ray. For DVD you can just set the region to 0 and it can play anything however Iím advised by the instructions that you canít do this for Blu-Ray so I didnít try. Itís not a big deal though. My biggest complaint about this one is another shortcoming that I knew about before buying this, I just didnít realize how much it would bother me until I started to use it, there is no way to display anything other than the elapsed time on the disc youíre playing. You canít look at the total run time and nor can you look at the remaining time. I actually look at the remaining time often when I watch things, for various reasons (or at least I used to...). The pre-stop feature does not always work as it should. When you tap the stop button you should get a pre-stop and you hold the button down for a full stop but tapping the button on some discís causes a full stop (I tried it several times in case it was me but I donít see how I could hit the button any quicker or lighterÖ). Who knows, maybe there is something wrong with my remote or playerÖ The remote is another thing that is a bit odd. There is a hard switch (button) on the front of the player for power and the remote also has a power button however if you shut the player off (or, rather put it in standby) with the remote then you canít turn it back on from the unit without turning the hard switch off and then back on again. Once the player is in standby you essentially need the remote to turn it back on unless you want to completely power down and back up again.
Again, this is all trivial compared to the fact that youíre no longer locked into going with some studioís marketing plan and waiting for domestic releases of foreign movies, which always takes too long.
One final thing to note, and I think this is more my TV than anything, depending on what device Iím using with the TV I get different options for the picture size (16x9, Zoom1, Zoom2, 4:3), some devices cause another choice to come up called Just Scan. It seems best to have the tv in this mode as there is slightly more picture visible when it is set to this compared to when it is set to 16x9. I did only play with this with a PAL disc so maybe this has something to do with it although I would assume not as this advertises "Correct PAL-NTSC Conversion"...
Anyway, I figured everyone has already read the dvdbeaver review but if you wanted another, albeit similar, opinion then here you go. Also, if anyone else has one of these I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on it.

Odin
06-05-2009, 06:30 PM
Have you compared the picture quality of the BDP-899 with other blu-ray players?

f.ramses
06-06-2009, 06:12 AM
Nope. Unfortunately I can't because this is the only player that I have or even have access to. At best I might someday be able to talk one of my friends into letting me borrow their PS3...

msw7
06-06-2009, 06:59 AM
Thanks for posting that link, it pushes me more towards buying one of these things! The things I didn't like in the review were the two items they had under updates and the fact that you have to manually input a code to change the regions. I know the update items seem minor but who knows what they will hold for future releases, I'll have to watch that page for future updates! ...if I don't just buy one, it's almost happened several times since I found that player... :]

I've had my eye on this one too - since I saw it on HKFlix.com.

I'm just not quite ready to make the jump to blu-ray yet (I've got too many things already to spend money on....)

The Chaostar
08-19-2009, 08:14 PM
Well I must say that my MOMITSU works fine. In fact, every DVD i own looks much better - especially contrast wise. I haven't seen many films yet on BR, I don't own much. But I was more than happy with Sweeny Todd, Wall-E, BFI's SALO, The Thing and Criterion's Seventh Seal. I mean, it's so close to cinema, it's mind-blowing.

f.ramses
08-19-2009, 10:16 PM
There is another, sort of region free player out there now (I say sort of because in order for it to become region free you have to load some free, but 3rd party, firmware onto it), the Oppo BDP-83. I don't know much about this one and haven't looked into it since I already have the Momitsu and am happy with it but I'm curious as to how this works. Anyway, here is a link (http://www.avforums.com/forums/blu-ray-players/1045779-oppo-bdp-83-owners-thread-all-regions-part-2-a.html) to some info and a download for the firmware, and here's another (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1124287&page=493). I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel about putting 3rd party firmware on a $500 player but if I had this player I'd probably try it out.
Anyone try this or have one and plan to?

Well I must say that my MOMITSU works fine. In fact, every DVD i own looks much better - especially contrast wise. I haven't seen many films yet on BR, I don't own much. But I was more than happy with Sweeny Todd, Wall-E, BFI's SALO, The Thing and Criterion's Seventh Seal. I mean, it's so close to cinema, it's mind-blowing.

Salo looked great, not that I've seen it in the theatre's or in HD in any other form though. I think the most impressive looking BD I've watched so far has been The Shining, I just thought it looked incredible!
Now that you have the player, what do you think of the load times? If it's not your first BD player how do you think it compares to others? Some disc's take a REALLY long time to load (the Swedish release of Inside, for example) but, hey, at least I can watch them!

The Chaostar
08-19-2009, 10:36 PM
Well, it never actually took more than 2-3 minutes for my discs to load. Wall-E had millions of Disney shit before getting to the movie, but I was able to skip them.

f.ramses
08-19-2009, 10:49 PM
Well, it never actually took more than 2-3 minutes for my discs to load. Wall-E had millions of Disney shit before getting to the movie, but I was able to skip them.

Ah, I just meant how long it takes before all the annoying commercials. I hope you don't have any disc's that take 2-3 minutes to do that! Then again, Inside took almost a full minute to get off the load screen...

f.ramses
01-03-2010, 11:43 PM
I was doing some reading today and noticed that DVDBeaver (http://www.compare.dvdbeaver.com/film/hardwarereviews/momitsu_bdp-899.htm)'s review of the Momitsu BDP-899 had been updated at some point to note that the Sherwood BDP-5004 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002AQ51VK/ref=nosim?tag=dvdbeaver-20&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=B002AQ51VK&creative=373489&camp=211189) is a clone of the region free Momitsu BDP-899. I've even read a couple of confirmations that the region switch codes work, if this is true then this player is probably a steal for only $170 although I'd advise anyone considering this player to research it a little before buying it!
Anyone have this player? If you do and want to try it out remove the disc from the tray, close the tray, and enter 9+7+3+5+<DVD Region>+<BD Region> and press enter, you won't get any confirmation that anything has changed so you'll have to test it with a region locked disc. You can just put 0 for the DVD region and it will be region free but for BD's you have to specify 1(A), 2(B), or 3(C). Also, the player will revert back to whatever it's original region settings were once you turn it off.

hellraiser40
09-23-2010, 07:42 PM
i have a Philips BDP 3100, of which i used a hack code to make it region free for DVD but this doesn't work for Blu-ray

if someone here knows a website where i can find some info on making this one region free too for Blu-ray, it would be greatly appreciated

to buy a region free Blu-Ray (or an 'A'-locked Blu-ray player) for a couple of Blu-rays is just crazy

Eddyw78
09-23-2010, 11:01 PM
i have a Philips BDP 3100, of which i used a hack code to make it region free for DVD but this doesn't work for Blu-ray

if someone here knows a website where i can find some info on making this one region free too for Blu-ray, it would be greatly appreciated

to buy a region free Blu-Ray (or an 'A'-locked Blu-ray player) for a couple of Blu-rays is just crazy

I believe you can only get region free for Blu Ray if you modify it internally. I'm pretty much positive you cannot use a simple hack like with DVD.

youthief
09-24-2010, 02:49 PM
I have the Sherwood BDP-5004 that f.ramses mentions and it plays all the DVD (PAL/NTSC) and Blu-ray's I've tried. The price has been staying around the $120-$130 mark for awhile. The region changing instructions are posted in one of the reviews and here:

"Now how to make this region free. You will have to program it and it reverts back to "A" region on Blu-rays when you turn it off, but the programming stays for the DVD.

Codes are:
8751+0+1 is all DVD and "A" Blu-ray regions
8751+0+2 is all DVD and "B" Blu-ray regions
8751+0+3 is all DVD and "C" Blu-ray regions

8751 is the program, the first number after is the DVD region and the second is the Blu-ray. You can set to play all region DVDs by putting in a 0 after 8751 but need to specify the Blu-ray region. And like I said, the Blu-ray will default back to "A" (that's us) but DVDs will stay. There are, however, DVD that demand you have it set up for that region. Had a Disney refuse to play until I set it to "1" (once again, that's us) and a Japanese disc to "2". You have to have the tray empty and closed to input the code.
An alternate code is 9735 before the regions."

Grim
11-04-2010, 03:41 PM
I've been looking into getting a region free blu-ray player. Amazon sells a bunch of ones that seem to be modded by 3rd Party sellers.

These are two that I've been looking at.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Y7B6CM/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ALEWIQ2F9CQDR

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040BT4Q6/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A2EH3A7AEDBIYP

Any thoughts?

f.ramses
11-04-2010, 05:34 PM
I don't know anything about either model, modded or unmodded, however I'd assume that if the unmodded version got good reviews then the modded one wouldn't be any different aside from it's ability to change regions. The only thing I can think of to look out for is to make sure that the mod is guaranteed to work with all future firmware updates, only one of those players (the one by Pioneer) specifically states this while the other one by Sharp just alludes to it in the description. Then again, I suppose there is no real way for the makers of these mods to truly know that the manufacturers won't ever come up with a firmware update (or, perhaps just something they'll put on BDs themselves...) that can detect their mod and then prevent playback...

Grim
11-04-2010, 06:02 PM
I wouldn't really be worried about firmware updates. As far as BDLive is concerned, using that on a foreign disc won't do me any good as everything will probably be in another language, plus I have my PS3 for all of my local BDLive needs (which aren't much. I rarely use BDLive).

f.ramses
11-04-2010, 07:42 PM
I can't upgrade my firmware because I'm told it will disable the multi-region capabilities of my player and I really wouldn't be surprised if someday I got a disc and the menu won't load or the movie won't play without a firmware upgrade. Remember when Avatar came out and all those people had to upgrade their players in order to play it because of the supposed advanced security "features" the disc had? Sure, it was just Avatar but that's not the only disc to have issues like this and I'm sure it won't be the last either. While I never upgrade my firmware on anything unless I absolutely need to I think that this may be important.
Regarding BD Live, I'd imagine it wouldn't work for discs played from countries they're not supposed to be played in anyway regardless of your hardware and it's modifications because the content is coming from the internet, they probably detect your country and then grant or deny you access based on that like some video sites sometimes do.

pwrslave
11-05-2010, 01:19 AM
Does anyone know if Oppo is going out of business? I checked the website today as I wanted to purchase the BDP-83 and it looks like they are no longer producing the Blu-ray players, what gives?

Usually electronics go down in price as new technology comes out, but the damn players are more expensive now then they were three months ago!

f.ramses
11-05-2010, 01:46 PM
I heard about a month ago that the BDP-80 and the BDP-83 had been discontinued (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=5216) because they were coming out with the BDP-93 soon and they were also having a hard time getting a certain part to make the 80s and 83s. Haven't heard anything about them going out of business so I assume everything is normal. Here's to the 93 being just as easily modded as the 80 and 83, if it is I'm considering picking one up.

pwrslave
11-05-2010, 07:04 PM
I heard about a month ago that the BDP-80 and the BDP-83 had been discontinued (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=5216) because they were coming out with the BDP-93 soon and they were also having a hard time getting a certain part to make the 80s and 83s. Haven't heard anything about them going out of business so I assume everything is normal. Here's to the 93 being just as easily modded as the 80 and 83, if it is I'm considering picking one up.

All the same features plus Netflix and 3d capability! Here's hopping it can be easily modded!

pwrslave
11-28-2010, 09:10 AM
OK, so I caved and bought a used BDP-83 as it is a tried and true system. I have heard nothing but great things about this player, so I figured what the hey, can't go wrong right? Going to get a mod kit once it arrives. I see a bunch of different types on eBay, any recommendations? What HDMI cable should I get? I am looking to optimize the system. I have a somewhat older Samsung LCD tv running at 1080p and 120hz and found the Monster MC 900HDBR which says to be specifically designed for optimizing BR video quality? Does anyone know anything about this, should I go with a cheaper cable?

Thanks!

pwrslave
11-29-2010, 05:57 AM
So I am going to be purchasing a cable and mod kit tomorrow, any suggestions?
Thanks!

sinister
12-01-2010, 10:58 PM
I have a multi-region BDP-83 and it's a great player. I use an external scaler with mine but the 83 has a good scaler built in so will probably be better than the one built into your TV, for DVD's.

I wouldn't bother with a super expensive cable, I use one from:

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/

there's loads of cable info and a selection of different types/lengths on there.

As for the mod. chip , I know:

http://www.bluraychip.dk/

are reliable.

pwrslave
12-02-2010, 06:37 AM
I bought this chip off of eBay. The seller has 100% feedback, so once I get the chip I will let evryone know if it is legit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OPPO-BDP-80-BDP-83-SE-BLU-RAY-CODE-FREE-MULTI-REGION-/330446360453?pt=DVD_Players_Recorders&hash=item4cf0234f85

f.ramses
12-03-2010, 02:02 AM
That chip is cheaper (iirc) and looks slightly easier to install than the ones I was looking at when I was considering an 83 several months ago, hopefully it works well. I don't know if you ordered your cable yet but you should really just buy a cheap one, they can be had for like $3 at newegg.com. I have my doubts that you'd notice a difference, I've heard a lot of people say they are a scam (this was a while ago though, maybe things have changed although I doubt it...), and even if you thought the cheaper cable didn't look good it wouldn't be much of a loss to replace it with the more expensive cable considering the cost of the cable you were considering.

SaxCatz
12-03-2010, 02:43 AM
I bought this chip off of eBay. The seller has 100% feedback, so once I get the chip I will let evryone know if it is legit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/OPPO-BDP-80-BDP-83-SE-BLU-RAY-CODE-FREE-MULTI-REGION-/330446360453?pt=DVD_Players_Recorders&hash=item4cf0234f85

This is probably the easiest chip of all to install, quite inexpensive and reliable by all accounts. I think its tough to beat.

SaxCatz
12-03-2010, 02:46 AM
That chip is cheaper (iirc) and looks slightly easier to install than the ones I was looking at when I was considering an 83 several months ago, hopefully it works well. I don't know if you ordered your cable yet but you should really just buy a cheap one, they can be had for like $3 at newegg.com. I have my doubts that you'd notice a difference, I've heard a lot of people say they are a scam (this was a while ago though, maybe things have changed although I doubt it...), and even if you thought the cheaper cable didn't look good it wouldn't be much of a loss to replace it with the more expensive cable considering the cost of the cable you were considering.

ONE WORD for cables...
MONOPRICE.com
The only site you'll ever need for PC & Home Theater cabling- dirt cheap.
I've wired by own home theater and several other home theaters and even two conference rooms (well, one conference and one "multi-purpose") with their products and they've NEVER failed to impress.
Not trying to sound like an advert, that's just how I feel.

MorallySound
01-09-2011, 01:29 AM
Fellow Canadians, the Seiki BD660 cheapo Blu-ray player currently available at Wal-Mart stores across the country has been reported as being region-free for both DVD and Blu-ray! My buddy had picked one up before the holidays, used the "not-so-secret" code found on the web to unlock the coding, and has been enjoying his Region 2s and 3s and has confirmed it's legit. Not only that, it's only $78 CDN.

I picked one up just yesterday, but have yet to test it. My buddy is mailing me some Region 2s and 3s to test it out. Not sure if this available in the States, but if so, not a bad price to go region-free for both Blu-ray and DVD!

More info and confirmation on it being region-free here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=127101

joltaddict
01-09-2011, 03:00 AM
Are you talking about BDs or DVDs? DVDs are 2 or 3, BDs are A or B.

MorallySound
01-09-2011, 03:12 AM
Are you talking about BDs or DVDs? DVDs are 2 or 3, BDs are A or B.

Referring to both BDs and DVDs. Once the unlocking code is entered for the Seiki player the "factory setup" screen is available which allows you to change the DVD region coding to which ever region (obviously entering 0 will set it to region free [or technically Regions 1-6]) and the Blu-ray region by entering either 1, 2, or 4 (respectively Region A, Region B, or Region C).

And there are actually 8 DVD regions and 3 BD regions.

joltaddict
01-09-2011, 03:29 AM
Yeah my Sherwood does all of that but you need remote codes for BDs. I was just asking cause you said you were testing with 2s and 3s. :D

f.ramses
01-09-2011, 06:13 AM
Just for the sake of having it all in one thread, the Insignia players from this thread (http://www.horrordvds.com/vb3forum/showthread.php?t=41785) are cheap and will have a menu option allowing you to change regions for BDs and DVDs once you enter the secret code:


1. Turn on the player.
2. Press the home/setup button and release. Enter 9-1-1-3 on the number
pad.


I first heard about this for the NS-WBRDVD2-CA but it works on the NS-WBRDVD2 and a few others made by them as well.

joltaddict
01-09-2011, 10:22 AM
That remote code shit always annoyed me with my region free DVD players. I like that the Sherwood plays everything right out of the box without any imput from me. You still have to do the code thing with BDs but I only own 2 blus as it is but I have dozens of other region DVDs. Ive thrown everything at this thing, the german LHOTL, the british TCM, the austrailian TCM, a japanese TCM, it loads and plays immediately. If Im too intoxicated to fuck with my remote my Sherwood enables me. I love her. And I think she loves me too.

And really is the difference in price ($80 vs $140) that big a deal? Some of these BD box sets are more pricy than that (yes, Im looking at you Battle Royale).

X-human
01-09-2011, 06:42 PM
Jolt, you do the remote thing just once for the entire lifespan of the player. So it's fire and forget. So is it worth $60 to never have to press a sequence of buttons one little time?

Can anyone confirm if these players convert PAL content? Some of the Region B Blu's still have SD PAL content and some unlocked players still will not be able to play those States side.

joltaddict
01-09-2011, 10:49 PM
Jolt, you do the remote thing just once for the entire lifespan of the player. So it's fire and forget.

Sweet. Even for BDs ?


Can anyone confirm if these players convert PAL content? Some of the Region B Blu's still have SD PAL content and some unlocked players still will not be able to play those States side.

Cant speak to the other players being discussed but contrary to what some of the Amazon reviews state the Sherwood does do PAL. At least on DVDs, I havent tested any blus but I would guess if it works for one it would work for both. I tested it on a german DVD where the extras wouldnt work on an older region free DVD player that didnt do PAL.

sinister
03-02-2011, 08:36 PM
There is another, sort of region free player out there now (I say sort of because in order for it to become region free you have to load some free, but 3rd party, firmware onto it), the Oppo BDP-83. I don't know much about this one and haven't looked into it since I already have the Momitsu and am happy with it but I'm curious as to how this works.

Anyone try this or have one and plan to?


Just noticed this old post when looking through this thread for info on that US Insignia BD player.

I was involved with the development of the region free firmware for the BDP-83 and can confirm that it did work 100% OK. Within a few days of it being released they brought out an updated firmware that completely changed how the region coding worked internally, making it clear that while they seemed OK with "hardware" based mods that they wouldn't tolerate a simple firmware update making the player region free for Blu-ray.

A few days after that some other guy (who had little to no idea what he was doing) released a supposedly hacked version of the updated firmware based on our original hack, without understanding the changes made by Oppo and clearly without even having a player to test it on. This version simply "bricked" the player, requiring it to be returned to the dealer for repair.

Soon after that Oppo released another new firmware, this time adding an extra layer of "signing" protection making it a lot more difficult to modify the firmware file... and who could blame them after the "bricked" players fiasco.

We decided not to release any more hacked firmwares at that point, what with the hardware hack board being available for the BDP-83 anyway.

Fast forward to today and there are again some players on the market that are suitable for firmware hacking... so you never know, you may see this type of hack available at some point in future.

f.ramses
03-03-2011, 01:22 PM
That's cool, thanks for the insight. A little while after I'd posted that I started looking into the OPPO BDP-83 again and everything new I found made no mention of modded firmware, only a mod chip, so I began to wonder if what I had linked was even correct. I wonder what else could have been changed back when it was easier to make/use modded firmware...
Now I want a 93 but just can't justify buying it since I'm still happy with my Momitsu and my computer is now basically a region free DVD and BD player too (wish I could get PowerDVD to work rather than opening individual .m2ts files though...).

KR~!
06-06-2011, 02:17 AM
I am a bit late to this but I was looking for the name of the site that I 1st posted about. Then I just found out that they no longer exist.

Here is the story in case you want to know what happen:

http://www.cityonfire.com/original-founder-of-hkflix-com-speaks-out/