New Friday the 13th Boxset!!

[Matt89]

Yeah, I wasn't gonna buy any of these (waiting for the eventual releases of parts 2 and 3 on blu) but Best Buy and Future Shop were all sold out of the blu-ray of part 1. Guess it sold well?

*But DAMN rhett, part 2 looks beautiful. I can only imagine how good this'll look on blu-ray. There's also a significant amount of extra space within the frame. You by any chance have a percentage of how much MORE space there is on the new DVD of Part 2 compared to the old one?

http://www.horrordvds.com/reviews/a-m/f132/f132_shot11l.jpg And lol, that's exactly what my fingernail on my index finger looks like right now. Accidentally slammed it in the garbage compactor at work like a month and a half ago. (Hurt like hell too!)

~Matt

[vampyr789]

But DAMN rhett, part 2 looks beautiful.


agreed! it looks fantastic!! :)

[rhett]

Yeah, I wasn't gonna buy any of these (waiting for the eventual releases of parts 2 and 3 on blu) but Best Buy and Future Shop were all sold out of the blu-ray of part 1. Guess it sold well?

*But DAMN rhett, part 2 looks beautiful. I can only imagine how good this'll look on blu-ray. There's also a significant amount of extra space within the frame. You by any chance have a percentage of how much MORE space there is on the new DVD of Part 2 compared to the old one?

http://www.horrordvds.com/reviews/a-m/f132/f132_shot11l.jpg And lol, that's exactly what my fingernail on my index finger looks like right now. Accidentally slammed it in the garbage compactor at work like a month and a half ago. (Hurt like hell too!)

~Matt

There's 4.6% added frame space on all sides of the PART 2 transfer. I guess you give some and take some away?

[grodd]

Yeah, I wasn't gonna buy any of these (waiting for the eventual releases of parts 2 and 3 on blu) but Best Buy and Future Shop were all sold out of the blu-ray of part 1. Guess it sold well?

*But DAMN rhett, part 2 looks beautiful. I can only imagine how good this'll look on blu-ray. There's also a significant amount of extra space within the frame. You by any chance have a percentage of how much MORE space there is on the new DVD of Part 2 compared to the old one?

http://www.horrordvds.com/reviews/a-m/f132/f132_shot11l.jpg And lol, that's exactly what my fingernail on my index finger looks like right now. Accidentally slammed it in the garbage compactor at work like a month and a half ago. (Hurt like hell too!)

~Matt

I just ordered the Blu-ray so hopefully everything will look good.

[grodd]

Grodd... Do it! I'm telling you, you won't regret it.:glasses:
I will I'm too much of a fanatic not to. If I can find a cheap VHD player I'd get that also.

[Matt89]

There's 4.6% added frame space on all sides of the PART 2 transfer. I guess you give some and take some away?

Yeah, sadly. Can't have your cake and eat it too? :(

~Matt

[Buddusky]

My review for Part 2 (http://horrordigital.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=735)

Thankfully this transfer makes out much better than that of the first film. I'd even say that comparing DVDs, this is significantly the best visual upgrade of the lot.

Well well well, the DVD wins it over the Blue-ray disc. :D:D:D

[gunner]

What? Pt. 2's dvd wins? No way!! Last night, after watching the Pt.1 blu-ray most of the night, I quickly scanned the dvds of pt. 2 & 3. I was totally convinced that part 2's transfer was the same as the original release. Thanks to Rhett's great review I see otherwise, in a big way. But the only reason it looked so bad to me was because of how good the blu-ray looked. I think the pt. 2 UK blu-ray has potential to officially blow pt.1's transfer away. But until then, I think the countless scenes of nearly true-to-life detail, or wow factor, on pt.1's blu-ray earns it the crown of the 3 US presentations. It's exciting.

[KillerCannabis]

I went to the signing for His Name was Jason in Burbank last night. It was a real good time. They had a ton of cast/crew from the series, got to see a few friends. I spoke to the 3-D supervisor for Part 3 for a good 15 min and he confirmed that a Blu-ray edition of the film is indeed coming next year. He said it's going to use DLP 3D home technology which, according to him, looks amazing. He said only DLP and LED 3D-ready sets will be able to utilize the technique, all other sets will be relegated to red/blue for the release. He invited my friend and I to a private screening of Part 3 at his studio using the process, so if I get the chance to see it I'll be sure to report back.

Also spoke to my buddy who's doing the SE's for parts 4-6. He couldn't confirm whether or not there would be a BD release of them, but he did tell me that the bonus features for those 3 will put those from 1-3 to shame. We all know the new bonus features on 1-3 are pretty damn weak, and so does he, so it's looking good that we'll get some great stuff for the next 3.

[mclay18]

I really can't wait for the SE of Part 6 -- that's the only Paramount-release F13th that I unabashedly love. The audio engineers should have more to work with on that film since that was originally released in stereo surround, as opposed to mono.

[HAEMORRHAGE]

I love hearing about the bonus features that are coming on the re-releases of 4-6 and all but I still want uncut more than anything else.

[maskull]

I picked up part one on DVD today. It was pretty inexpensive so I figured why not? I've never seen this one uncut. Just finished watching it. The extra footage doesn't make much of a difference, but I'm still glad to see it.

Think I'll probably skip buying part 2 unless I happen to have extra cash as I don't feel like buying it for special features. Is the Part 3-d worth picking up? I was really tempted, but i wanted to see how the reviews were for it to see if the 3-d is any good.

Gotta go back and get the Doc sometime this week so if the word is good on 3-D I'll prob snag it as well.

[Zombie Dude]

Looks like a Blu-ray box set is on the way:
This past Tuesday Paramount Home Entertainment released the original Friday the 13th on Blu-ray, while sticking parts 2 and 3 on DVD (again). We learned over the weekend that Paramount is already prepping to release a brand new box set including the first eight Friday the 13th films on Blu-ray. Much like the 2004 DVD release "From Crystal Lake to Manhattan", the box set will include the first eight films, as Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X and Freddy vs Jason were made by New Line Cinema. No word on if they'll be uncut or not - let us pray.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15230/

[vampyr789]

Looks like a Blu-ray box set is on the way:

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15230/

what the hell!?!?! :mad:

what about the people who didn't upgrade to Blu-Ray???
paramount better release a new DVD box set too! :confused:

[Zombie Dude]

what the hell!?!?! :mad:

what about the people who didn't upgrade to Blu-Ray???
paramount better release a new DVD box set too! :confused:

I'm guessing there will be a dvd set also.

Still, it's good to see all the Paramount Friday's getting blu treatment.

[captain_brandon]

what the hell!?!?! :mad:

what about the people who didn't upgrade to Blu-Ray???
paramount better release a new DVD box set too! :confused:

I was thinking the exact same thing. They had better treat us standard-def DVD theater system owners just as well if they're gonna the up coming over the months as they're doing Deluxe Editions that I've recently got and am gonna get more of over the months, then forget it, as these shal look just fine on my system.

As for a future entire boxset: I'm a hardcore Jason Voorhees old school completeist, and I would only order it from amazon if it was FINALLY UNCUT. Beyond that, blah, I've gien Cashamount (our little nick-name for'em on the official Friday the 13th films.com Blogs) enough of my cash over the years ...

[captain_brandon]

I'm guessing there will be a dvd set also.

Still, it's good to see all the Paramount Friday's getting blu treatment.

Hey Zombie Dude,

Just wanted to say I signed your petition to re-release an uncut Happy Birthday To Me special edition. Gotta say I most certianly hope it comes true.:)

[Grim]

Looks like a Blu-ray box set is on the way:

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15230/

Sweeeeeeet! Even though I bought the first one already. I'll have no problem selling it off and getting this set.

[Matt89]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a blu-ray only set. I mean they already released a DVD boxset back in 2004, and eventually more people are gonna start upgrading to blu-ray. (blu-ray player prices have dropped SIGNIFICANTLY over the past few years anyway.)

~Matt

[Grim]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a blu-ray only set. I mean they already released a DVD boxset back in 2004, and eventually more people are gonna start upgrading to blu-ray. (blu-ray player prices have dropped SIGNIFICANTLY over the past few years anyway.)

~Matt

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Blu-ray players are supposed to reach below the $150 mark this year, I believe. Once they get that cheap, and I assume discs will probably get at least a little bit cheaper in price too, horror fans who have HDTV's only have themselves to blame for not picking up a blu-ray player and seeing their favorite titles look absolutely amazing in high definition.

[dickieduvet]

Received parts 2 & 3 today on Blu, Part 2 looks great. Colours are very vibrant, daytime exterior shots look far better than ever before. Part 3 looks like crap though. A small upgrade from the recent region 1 3D dvd if at all. Extras are nice though. Legacy of the mask, 3d terror, and a few others.

[HAEMORRHAGE]

If they did a Blu boxset where they were all uncut I'd purchase it right off the bat and then upgrade to BluRay finally afterwards, haha.

[spawningblue]

I'm down! Guess I'll be holding out on picking up part one on Blu, as I'm sure this will be the definite set.

[fceurich39]

this awesome news i sure hope again that part 7 will be uncut also i hope that all eight films will be on separate 8 blu ray discs unlike the dvd box set where they had two movies on one discs

[Zombie Dude]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a blu-ray only set. I mean they already released a DVD boxset back in 2004, and eventually more people are gonna start upgrading to blu-ray. (blu-ray player prices have dropped SIGNIFICANTLY over the past few years anyway.)

~Matt

If it's region free I'll upgrade to blu.:evil:

[NaturesMistake]

I would at the very least like a re-vamped "Tales from the cutting room floor."

This time, include scenes from 2 5 and 8 as well as the alternate ending to 3.

Of course I would rather have them all uncut, but this is all it will take to make me buy it on Stand. Def (Have not gone blu yet)

Plus, and this isn't that big of a deal, but the uncut scenes from part six on the old dvd boxed set is missing the heart stomp in the beginning. It would be cool if they would find that.

[rxfiend]

I'm glad they are releasing a blu-ray box set. Last week I finally purchased a HDTV (42" philips 1080p LCD!! :D ), so a blu-ray player is next on my list.

[fceurich39]

i sure hope this isn't just going to be the previous dvd box set i don't with the first 3 deluxe editions out now and that part 3 is supposed to be in 3d also anyone else think so it is paramount were talking about here

[Grim]

I could honestly see them at least considering putting the cut violence from Part 6 back in. It looked pretty damn good on the last box set so it wouldn't take much effort to make it fit right back into the film in terms of color timing, scratches and all that. I honestly think that all of the other known footage that was cut that it didn't show up on the previous box set is more than likely lost, so I'm not gonna pain myself every time a new set or edition is announced by hoping that they've found all of the cut footage, just to be let down. The way I'm looking at it from here on out is the rest the footage is flat out gone, no more, nonexistent, so I better move on.

[captain_brandon]

I honestly think that all of the other known footage that was cut that it didn't show up on the previous box set is more than likely lost, so I'm not gonna pain myself every time a new set or edition is announced by hoping that they've found all of the cut footage, just to be let down. The way I'm looking at it from here on out is the rest the footage is flat out gone, no more, nonexistent, so I better move on.

Gotta say I fear the EXACT same thing. I'm more then a little bit worried that after trailers and North American television spots were cut back in the day, and there was no way of thinking about unrated VHS tapes, Laserdiscs and of course DVDs that many 35mm film elements were sadly lost over the years or thrown out. Which is even more sad, considering that My Bloody Valentine was made in 1980 an came out a few months later, so it's roughly as old as the first film in our beloved Friday cannon. And yet it survived my just being re-released fully uncut recently cause it was in someone's personal possion.

And yet Paramount, a large studio, probaly didn't keep the exercised footage. It's still ignorance on they're part, I feel ...

[Zombie Dude]

I could honestly see them at least considering putting the cut violence from Part 6 back in. It looked pretty damn good on the last box set so it wouldn't take much effort to make it fit right back into the film in terms of color timing, scratches and all that. I honestly think that all of the other known footage that was cut that it didn't show up on the previous box set is more than likely lost, so I'm not gonna pain myself every time a new set or edition is announced by hoping that they've found all of the cut footage, just to be let down. The way I'm looking at it from here on out is the rest the footage is flat out gone, no more, nonexistent, so I better move on.

Well the alt ending for Part 3 is meant to be floating around somewhere on a bootleg dvd from what I understand.

[Matt89]

I honestly think that all of the other known footage that was cut that it didn't show up on the previous box set is more than likely lost, so I'm not gonna pain myself every time a new set or edition is announced by hoping that they've found all of the cut footage, just to be let down. The way I'm looking at it from here on out is the rest the footage is flat out gone, no more, nonexistent, so I better move on.

Glad someone shares my point of view on this one. Everyone goes on about how Friday the 13th Part VII has to be released uncut, but on the last boxset, Paramount showed us what they had in terms of the cut footage, and it was on a (pretty rough) VHS tape that belonged to the director. I'm with Grim on this one, I'm willing to be a million dollars that the footage is all gone. It probably no longer exists. We got LUCKY with My Bloody Valentine, and I don't think we'll get as lucky with the Friday the 13th sequels. (No, and it's not that Paramount is lazy to go look for it. The footage was probably scrapped.) I seriously doubt studio executives back in the day were thinking of possible unrated home video editions of these films when they were first released. (And enough of that stupid bullshit, "If they're not uncut, no sale" kindof crap. Ever take into consideration that the footage is gone?)

~Matt

[Katatonia]

Received parts 2 & 3 today on Blu, Part 2 looks great. Colours are very vibrant, daytime exterior shots look far better than ever before. Part 3 looks like crap though. A small upgrade from the recent region 1 3D dvd if at all. Extras are nice though. Legacy of the mask, 3d terror, and a few others.

Mine should arrive from Amazon UK any day now. I've heard on other forums that the Blu-ray of part 3 looks really nice. :eek1:

[Kolpitz]

Glad someone shares my point of view on this one. Everyone goes on about how Friday the 13th Part VII has to be released uncut, but on the last boxset, Paramount showed us what they had in terms of the cut footage, and it was on a (pretty rough) VHS tape that belonged to the director. I'm with Grim on this one, I'm willing to be a million dollars that the footage is all gone. It probably no longer exists. We got LUCKY with My Bloody Valentine, and I don't think we'll get as lucky with the Friday the 13th sequels. (No, and it's not that Paramount is lazy to go look for it. The footage was probably scrapped.) I seriously doubt studio executives back in the day were thinking of possible unrated home video editions of these films when they were first released. (And enough of that stupid bullshit, "If they're not uncut, no sale" kindof crap. Ever take into consideration that the footage is gone?)

~Matt

Agreed, this is just getting tiresome. Everyone has this fucking vendetta against Paramount, as if they're holding the uncut footage hostage and laughing at us all. Back in the 80's, there was little to no market for extended cuts, director's cut, unrated cuts, etc. On top of that, the execs BACK THEN treated these movies like garbage. Cut to almost thirty years later and this isn't the case anymore. The Home Video department of Paramount loves these films, and why wouldn't they? They still make them money, all these years later. When the first wave of DVDs started hitting in 1999, there still wasn't even a market for unrated cuts and, plus, these releases were merely testing the waters. DVD was in its infancy, and not yet the juggernaut it has become, and Paramount was suspicious of its future (look at ANY Paramount release from back then, they were all bare bones). After sales proved strong, and Paramount started adding features to their DVDs, they put out the set in 2004. As Matt pointed out, this set encompasses what they could get for cut footage. Warner Bros. wouldn't yet release the rights to the uncut version, only allowing Paramount to show the footage as a separate feature. The uncut scenes from The New Blood looked like absolute ass and were incomplete. If I recall, the scenes from Jason Lives were pretty decent but also incomplete. The only reason I can think of why they weren't included in the film itself is because Paramount prides themselves on their A/V quality and, at the time, they probably felt this footage was sub-par. Cut to 2009, and the new deluxe editions. I've heard from multiple sources (including a few fellas over at Dread Central that are working on these releases) that Paramount scoured the vaults looking for the negatives of the cut footage (or any film of said footage in good shape) and came up with nothing. Unlike My Bloody Valentine, which was independently produced, the sequels were studio financed. There was no lone producer with the foresight to save the uncut footage, like John Dunning did with Valentine. Paramount isn't stupid. They know how much money the unrated market makes each year. If they had the footage, in better quality, they would release these films uncut. No doubt in my mind. They actually did approach Mihalka back when they were prepping the Valentine DVD about doing a director's cut but couldn't find the footage at the time. Later, when Dunning came forward with the footage, they didn't think it was financially sound to release another DVD as the first release wasn't exactly a blockbuster (Lionsgate's re-release seems to have proven them wrong). Anyway, I think everyone needs to back off of Paramount and stop treating them like they're purposefully wronging us. The footage is gone, folks! Sorry to say. Sure, the footage could miraculously pop up down the road from some private collector but I seriously doubt it. For me, as long as the sequels look as good as, or better than, the Blu-ray of the first film, I'll be buying them without question. Oh, and Part III, oughtta be in 3-D.

[shift]

I'll keep the one that I purchased couple years ago :)

I still as of yet completed all the one's I have. lol!! :lol:

[Grim]

Well the alt ending for Part 3 is meant to be floating around somewhere on a bootleg dvd from what I understand.

If that bootleg existed it would no doubt be up on on torrents and I'm sure the original ending would've popped up on youtube at one point or another. It's gone. We have some stills, but other than that it's gone, unless it's hidden with the lost ark or something.

[Zombie Dude]

If that bootleg existed it would no doubt be up on on torrents and I'm sure the original ending would've popped up on youtube at one point or another. It's gone. We have some stills, but other than that it's gone, unless it's hidden with the lost ark or something.

People have claimed to have seen it. That good enough hope for me that it still exists.

[Grim]

People have claimed to have seen it. That good enough hope for me that it still exists.

Yes. Along with the people who claim to have seen Barry's death in the generator room, Claudette's knifing in the throat, etc.

In this day and age with the internet, if such a bootleg existed, it would have popped up in some form or another somewhere.

If this stuff still does exist (which it probably doesn't), it's in some vault hidden under thousands of other prints and negatives that Paramount cares about twenty times more.

[Zombie Dude]

Yes. Along with the people who claim to have seen Barry's death in the generator room, Claudette's knifing in the throat, etc.

In this day and age with the internet, if such a bootleg existed, it would have popped up in some form or another somewhere.

If this stuff still does exist (which it probably doesn't), it's in some vault hidden under thousands of other prints and negatives that Paramount cares about twenty times more.

Well compared to those other two deaths, we know this one was shot. I think there's a chance it might show up.

[Wez4555]

i still want uncut! if we could get solid proof this footage doesn't exist, then i think everyone will let it go. if footage does exist, but its in shit quality, put it as an extra. i know the box set did that, but I'm not rebuying (in a box set) for a few minutes of extra gore. looking to upgrade to blu F13ths, but they need to get their heads out their asses and do these movies right. release them as if no other version will ever come out again (yeah right).


BTW......

captain_brandon do i know you? i live in bossier now. good to see another horror fan in this horrible shithole area we live in.

[Grim]

i still want uncut! if we could get solid proof this footage doesn't exist, then i think everyone will let it go. if footage does exist, but its in shit quality, put it as an extra. i know the box set did that, but I'm not rebuying (in a box set) for a few minutes of extra gore. looking to upgrade to blu F13ths, but they need to get their heads out their asses and do these movies right. release them as if no other version will ever come out again (yeah right).


BTW......

captain_brandon do i know you? i live in bossier now. good to see another horror fan in this horrible shithole area we live in.

You can't really get solid proof that something doesn't exist. How does one prove that? Showing a video of someone burning the footage? I think folks need to just accept that it is probably gone. They'll be a lot happier in life and won't be let down and angry every time a new F13 release is announced. It's like those folks that hold out hope that the original members of G'N'R will get back together. Ain't happening.

[Wez4555]

no, i meant as in someone trust worthy say it hasn't been found. who is to actually believe paramount? its shocking part 1 is uncut coming from them. i mean if i did exist, do you think they would say it anyway? if they did say it did, do you think anyone (other than a typical braindead consumer) would buy a F13th movie ever again until then? i just wish these companies would make these releases as it was the end all release.

[Kolpitz]

no, i meant as in someone trust worthy say it hasn't been found. who is to actually believe paramount? its shocking part 1 is uncut coming from them. i mean if i did exist, do you think they would say it anyway? if they did say it did, do you think anyone (other than a typical braindead consumer) would buy a F13th movie ever again until then? i just wish these companies would make these releases as it was the end all release.

Why would Paramount sit on this footage knowing that this is what fans want? It doesn't make any sense financially. They're not out to get you. It's not a conspiracy. They don't have the footage, plain and simple.

[Matt89]

i still want uncut! if we could get solid proof this footage doesn't exist, then i think everyone will let it go. if footage does exist, but its in shit quality, put it as an extra. i know the box set did that, but I'm not rebuying (in a box set) for a few minutes of extra gore. looking to upgrade to blu F13ths, but they need to get their heads out their asses and do these movies right. release them as if no other version will ever come out again (yeah right).

I have to agree with what Kolpitz said earlier. I SERIOUSLY do not understand this vendetta people seem to have against Paramount. Paramount hates Friday the 13th? How? Can someone please explain this to me? It's ALWAYS been one of Paramounts first releases on any format. (Was an early title of theirs on VHS, Laserdisc, was part of their first wave of DVDs in 1999, now the blu-ray). Sure the old 1999 DVD looks like crap compared to the blu-ray, but I remember being BLOWN AWAY when I first bought the DVD. Paramount has always done a good job with these films, image-quality wise. And considering their low-budget production values, they should look MUCH WORSE. I don't understand why other Friday the 13th fans are so goddamn whiny about all this shit. They're the biggest complainers I've ever seen. You can't have PROOF that the footage no longer exists, and I don't blame them if they're not gonna search fucking high and low in their vaults for goddamn snippets of footage. It's not worth the time or effort.

Sure they initially released them barebones, but they've come back with the boxset (that everyone was so "disappointed" with because they simply set their expectations WAY too high) and now deluxe editions of parts 1 and 2, the 3-D version of part 3...yet people continue to complain. And people keep blaming Paramount for the cropping, yet it's been said SEVERAL times that Paramount got this print from Warner Bros. No uncut version that has Paramount's old framing has ever seen the light of day. People are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.

Ever take into consideration people who aren't JUST horror fans and how we still have yet to have some of our favorite "non-horror" films come out in special editions? They've given Friday the 13th better treatment than most of their catalog titles! Not enough special features for you guys? Go out and buy "Crystal Lake Memories" by Peter Bracke. Read that and you won't need to bitch and moan about the "lack of special features" (personally I thought the special features were quite good on the boxset. I was happy with them, anyway). Too lazy to read the book? Well, you have nobody to blame but yourself. The documentaries overlap anyway, I've heard Betsy Palmer say "I read the script for Friday the 13th and I thought...what a piece of shit" like 4 different times in 4 different interviews. How much more do people want? You must also remember that these films were rushed into production on shoestring budgets only to make a quick buck at the boxoffice.

no, i meant as in someone trust worthy say it hasn't been found. who is to actually believe paramount? its shocking part 1 is uncut coming from them. i mean if i did exist, do you think they would say it anyway? if they did say it did, do you think anyone (other than a typical braindead consumer) would buy a F13th movie ever again until then? i just wish these companies would make these releases as it was the end all release.

If the footage existed, why WOULDN'T they say it? It's not a matter of them being "lazy", look at the goddamn restoration work they did on the Friday the 13th blu-ray and the transfer of part 2. They don't need to "pull their heads out of their asses" BECAUSE THE FOOTAGE IS MOST LIKELY GONE.

And Paramount isn't out to get anybody. People just need to stop setting their expectations so delusionally high for movies like this. And no, I'm not "defending Paramount", I'm just putting it into a realistic perspective.

~Matt

[CrazyFatEthel]

I have to agree with what Kolpitz said earlier. I SERIOUSLY do not understand this vendetta people seem to have against Paramount. Paramount hates Friday the 13th? How? Can someone please explain this to me? It's ALWAYS been one of Paramounts first releases on any format. (Was an early title of theirs on VHS, Laserdisc, was part of their first wave of DVDs in 1999, now the blu-ray). Sure the old 1999 DVD looks like crap compared to the blu-ray, but I remember being BLOWN AWAY when I first bought the DVD. Paramount has always done a good job with these films, image-quality wise. And considering their low-budget production values, they should look MUCH WORSE. I don't understand why other Friday the 13th fans are so goddamn whiny about all this shit. They're the biggest complainers I've ever seen. You can't have PROOF that the footage no longer exists, and I don't blame them if they're not gonna search fucking high and low in their vaults for goddamn snippets of footage. It's not worth the time or effort.

Sure they initially released them barebones, but they've come back with the boxset (that everyone was so "disappointed" with because they simply set their expectations WAY too high) and now deluxe editions of parts 1 and 2, the 3-D version of part 3...yet people continue to complain. And people keep blaming Paramount for the cropping, yet it's been said SEVERAL times that Paramount got this print from Warner Bros. No uncut version that has Paramount's old framing has ever seen the light of day. People are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.

Ever take into consideration people who aren't JUST horror fans and how we still have yet to have some of our favorite "non-horror" films come out in special editions? They've given Friday the 13th better treatment than most of their catalog titles! Not enough special features for you guys? Go out and buy "Crystal Lake Memories" by Peter Bracke. Read that and you won't need to bitch and moan about the "lack of special features" (personally I thought the special features were quite good on the boxset. I was happy with them, anyway). Too lazy to read the book? Well, you have nobody to blame but yourself. The documentaries overlap anyway, I've heard Betsy Palmer say "I read the script for Friday the 13th and I thought...what a piece of shit" like 4 different times in 4 different interviews. How much more do people want? You must also remember that these films were rushed into production on shoestring budgets only to make a quick buck at the boxoffice.



If the footage existed, why WOULDN'T they say it? It's not a matter of them being "lazy", look at the goddamn restoration work they did on the Friday the 13th blu-ray and the transfer of part 2. They don't need to "pull their heads out of their asses" BECAUSE THE FOOTAGE IS MOST LIKELY GONE.

And Paramount isn't out to get anybody. People just need to stop setting their expectations so delusionally high for movies like this. And no, I'm not "defending Paramount", I'm just putting it into a realistic perspective.

~Matt

AMEN!!!:evil:

[vampyr789]

I have to agree with what Kolpitz said earlier. I SERIOUSLY do not understand this vendetta people seem to have against Paramount. Paramount hates Friday the 13th? How? Can someone please explain this to me? It's ALWAYS been one of Paramounts first releases on any format. (Was an early title of theirs on VHS, Laserdisc, was part of their first wave of DVDs in 1999, now the blu-ray). Sure the old 1999 DVD looks like crap compared to the blu-ray, but I remember being BLOWN AWAY when I first bought the DVD. Paramount has always done a good job with these films, image-quality wise. And considering their low-budget production values, they should look MUCH WORSE. I don't understand why other Friday the 13th fans are so goddamn whiny about all this shit. They're the biggest complainers I've ever seen. You can't have PROOF that the footage no longer exists, and I don't blame them if they're not gonna search fucking high and low in their vaults for goddamn snippets of footage. It's not worth the time or effort.

Sure they initially released them barebones, but they've come back with the boxset (that everyone was so "disappointed" with because they simply set their expectations WAY too high) and now deluxe editions of parts 1 and 2, the 3-D version of part 3...yet people continue to complain. And people keep blaming Paramount for the cropping, yet it's been said SEVERAL times that Paramount got this print from Warner Bros. No uncut version that has Paramount's old framing has ever seen the light of day. People are blowing this whole thing way out of proportion.

Ever take into consideration people who aren't JUST horror fans and how we still have yet to have some of our favorite "non-horror" films come out in special editions? They've given Friday the 13th better treatment than most of their catalog titles! Not enough special features for you guys? Go out and buy "Crystal Lake Memories" by Peter Bracke. Read that and you won't need to bitch and moan about the "lack of special features" (personally I thought the special features were quite good on the boxset. I was happy with them, anyway). Too lazy to read the book? Well, you have nobody to blame but yourself. The documentaries overlap anyway, I've heard Betsy Palmer say "I read the script for Friday the 13th and I thought...what a piece of shit" like 4 different times in 4 different interviews. How much more do people want? You must also remember that these films were rushed into production on shoestring budgets only to make a quick buck at the boxoffice.



If the footage existed, why WOULDN'T they say it? It's not a matter of them being "lazy", look at the goddamn restoration work they did on the Friday the 13th blu-ray and the transfer of part 2. They don't need to "pull their heads out of their asses" BECAUSE THE FOOTAGE IS MOST LIKELY GONE.

And Paramount isn't out to get anybody. People just need to stop setting their expectations so delusionally high for movies like this. And no, I'm not "defending Paramount", I'm just putting it into a realistic perspective.

~Matt

I agree with pretty much everything you said there. same for me, when i first saw Friday the 13th on a horrendus VHS from blockbuster, then on DVD. i was blown away. and the new DVD looks twice as better. and i do also think that the special features on the box set were pretty good, fun, and enjoyable. though it all does seem to get a bit consistent (like u said about Betsy on her first thought on the script). i own two (1999 version) single disc releases (parts 1 & 2), the first on deluxe edition, the boxset, new docu, and Crystal lake memories. but we do shell out all of this money for paramount. but hopefully this next boxset will hopefully be the last.

[Zombie Dude]

Why would Paramount sit on this footage knowing that this is what fans want? It doesn't make any sense financially. They're not out to get you. It's not a conspiracy. They don't have the footage, plain and simple.

As far as I'm concerned they haven't really looked.

[Grim]

As far as I'm concerned they haven't really looked.

So they weren't looking when they found the cut footage from Part VI?

And I guess everyone forgot when they were producing the first box set that they sent out an open letter to basically anyone who had cut footage or anything else that would be interesting to send it to Paramount.

[Zombie Dude]

So they weren't looking when they found the cut footage from Part VI?

And I guess everyone forgot when they were producing the first box set that they sent out an open letter to basically anyone who had cut footage or anything else that would be interesting to send it to Paramount.

Wasn't that from a video cut? And if you're right, what you're saying still suggests they haven't actually looking in their volts. Instead they want people to come to them with stuff when it's possible they have at least some footage.
All I want is to hear them address this and say that they have in fact gone through their volts with no luck. Until then I believe footage exists at their studio.

[Grim]

Wasn't that from a video cut? And if you're right, what you're saying still suggests they haven't actually looking in their volts. Instead they want people to come to them with stuff when it's possible they have at least some footage.
All I want is to hear them address this and say that they have in fact gone through their volts with no luck. Until then I believe footage exists at their studio.

The footage looked very good and obviously wasn't from a tape. Why would they be scraping for footage (in any kind of condition) from fans that they could possibly have to pay for if they could still possibly have it themselves? It just doesn't seem logical from both a financial standpoint and in terms of quality. But whatever, people can keep living their pipe dream.

[Zombie Dude]

The footage looked very good and obviously wasn't from a tape. Why would they be scraping for footage (in any kind of condition) from fans that they could possibly have to pay for if they could still possibly have it themselves? It just doesn't seem logical from both a financial standpoint and in terms of quality. But whatever, people can keep living their pipe dream.

There not a logical company. Look at there new release for Part 3. It has no special features! Sure 3D is cool, yet that's not even totally right. The least they could have done was shoot some interviews.

[Katatonia]

There not a logical company. Look at there new release for Part 3. It has no special features! Sure 3D is cool, yet that's not even totally right. The least they could have done was shoot some interviews.

Actually there are new bonus materials for part 3, but they're only included on the new UK editions of the film right now. I should have the UK Blu-ray arriving any day now, and it includes:

00:12:19:02 FRESH CUTS: 3D TERROR (FEATURETTE)
00:09:07:22 LEGACY OF THE MASK (FEATURETTE)
00:06:49:24 SLASHER FILMS: GOING FOR THE JUGULAR (FEATURETTE)
00:08:30:16 LOST TALES FROM CAMP BLOOD - PART II (FEATURETTE)
00:04:35:18 LOST TALES FROM CAMP BLOOD - PART III (FEATURETTE)
00:02:00:23 FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3 3D (THEATRICAL TRAILER)

[Zombie Dude]

Actually there are new bonus materials for part 3, but they're only included on the new UK editions of the film right now. I should have the UK Blu-ray arriving any day now, and it includes:

00:12:19:02 FRESH CUTS: 3D TERROR (FEATURETTE)
00:09:07:22 LEGACY OF THE MASK (FEATURETTE)
00:06:49:24 SLASHER FILMS: GOING FOR THE JUGULAR (FEATURETTE)
00:08:30:16 LOST TALES FROM CAMP BLOOD - PART II (FEATURETTE)
00:04:35:18 LOST TALES FROM CAMP BLOOD - PART III (FEATURETTE)
00:02:00:23 FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3 3D (THEATRICAL TRAILER)
Actually, they're on the Aus dvd too.:lol:

Point is, why wouldn't these then be included on the region 1 dvd?

[Katatonia]

Point is, why wouldn't these then be included on the region 1 dvd?

Probably since it would have necessitated a 2nd disc due to disc space limitations, as both versions of the film (I think?) are on the new R1 DVD.

They maybe could have fit it all on one disc, but the picture quality might have looked more compressed.

[rxfiend]

I've heard that the director of part 8 has a workprint of that movie that is 2.5 hours long. Not sure why Paramount and the director didn't come to an agreement for the boxset (perhaps $ was an issue?). Hopefully something gets worked out for the "deluxe edition."

[Zombie Dude]

Probably since it would have necessitated a 2nd disc due to disc space limitations, as both versions of the film (I think?) are on the new R1 DVD.

They maybe could have fit it all on one disc, but the picture quality might have looked more compressed.
Why not add an extra disc?
I've heard that the director of part 8 has a workprint of that movie that is 2.5 hours long. Not sure why Paramount and the director didn't come to an agreement for the boxset (perhaps $ was an issue?). Hopefully something gets worked out for the "deluxe edition."

That would be great to see. I hope Paramount goes to some effort.

[Matt89]

There not a logical company. Look at there new release for Part 3. It has no special features! Sure 3D is cool, yet that's not even totally right. The least they could have done was shoot some interviews.

How are they not a logical company? Did you not watch the DVD from the boxset? It had interviews AND it had a commentary. They released the new DVD the way they did because fans demanded that they release the movie in 3-D. (Yet people STILL complain). They gave fans what they wanted. And the thing is, you can't exactly get 3-D to look right on a TV, it's more a 35mm thing.

People need to stop being so bitter, saying things like "Well I hope they put some EFFORT into it this time." HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE NEW TRANSFERS!? You can't POSSIBLY tell me that they didn't put effort into that. Making Friday the 13th Part 3 be 2 discs might not be very economical. And with blu-ray becoming a bigger market every week, maybe they didn't want to fully finance a DVD when they're possibly planning to do more with the blu-ray.

~Matt

[captain_brandon]

BTW......

captain_brandon do i know you? i live in bossier now. good to see another horror fan in this horrible shithole area we live in.

Hey Wez,
*waves*

Gotta say, yeah, Shreveport/Bossier City, all of these Parishes sure are shit holes, sadly.:( I don't know WHy my family loves'em. Maybe cause both sides are Red Staters like us and have always grown up at least slightly below the Mason Dixon Line?

Anyway I'm afraid I don't know ya, but nice to meet you anyway! :D I was born in Nashville, and came here for my first 7 or so years of my youth but we love (parents are in the hotel/motel management business, though my old man's retired way too early). grew up mainly in Jackson, Tennessee (MUCH nicer then here; nicer subburbs) and rural south east Missouri where both of my parents' actually hail from (Kennett and Caruthersville area, famous for a few minor celebs, such as Sheryl Crow and Cedrid the Entertainer ... my uncle Keith knows his brother and has a unique photo of him, shaking hands, and a signed 1$ bill of all things).

Gotta say I SO can't wait to move to much nicer Ausitn, TX to study voice over acting within a the next three years. God I hate it here. Way too many people and I'm sorry ya'll, just not my type, down here. :(

So cool to meet a big time genre fanatic/collector as well. Seem's to be the South here breeds plenty of us, reguardless of what many think.

Okay, sorry for the kinda off-topic post now. Nobody's really spook to me since I signed up here and haven't gotten any messages or anything. Later ...

[Zombie Dude]

How are they not a logical company? Did you not watch the DVD from the boxset? It had interviews AND it had a commentary. They released the new DVD the way they did because fans demanded that they release the movie in 3-D. (Yet people STILL complain). They gave fans what they wanted. And the thing is, you can't exactly get 3-D to look right on a TV, it's more a 35mm thing.

People need to stop being so bitter, saying things like "Well I hope they put some EFFORT into it this time." HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE NEW TRANSFERS!? You can't POSSIBLY tell me that they didn't put effort into that. Making Friday the 13th Part 3 be 2 discs might not be very economical. And with blu-ray becoming a bigger market every week, maybe they didn't want to fully finance a DVD when they're possibly planning to do more with the blu-ray.

~Matt
I never got the boxset, and the one here's missing that disc.:(

The new transfers are definitely a vast improvement. The features are a little slack though.

[Katatonia]

Why not add an extra disc?

easy, it's cheaper.

[Zombie Dude]

easy, it's cheaper.

To me that's poor effort. If there's more to add, then add it. They're a big company; I'm sure an extra disc wont put them into bankruptcy.

[Matt89]

Well considering the way the economy is, no they wouldn't go bankrupt, but it probably wouldn't have been a very smart idea financially.

~Matt

[rxfiend]

Paramount could have at least included the part 3 commentary from the box set on the new DVD. An extra audio track would not have used that much space.

[Zombie Dude]

Well considering the way the economy is, no they wouldn't go bankrupt, but it probably wouldn't have been a very smart idea financially.

~Matt

Well that would depend on sales. If they release a new set with these editions I hope they touch them up. That or add a bonus disc (again).

[Zombie Dude]

Paramount could have at least included the part 3 commentary from the box set on the new DVD. An extra audio track would not have used that much space.

That's true. What's their excuse there?

[Stige]

wonder if the blu's of part 4-6 will be released in england like part 2 and 3 were? is so then a box set would not be something I would buy, I think. Have both books , the footage might be somewhere but I tend to beleive that the cut scenes fra part 2 are lost. as for 7 and 8 , well the DVD's are fine, never watch them always end my marathon at part 6 . Sometimes I get a mood to watch the newline later installments but never 7 and 8 , never could understand the fan love for those two.

[Matt89]

Yeah I'm not sure if I'd buy a boxset either. I'd def get parts 2, and then 4-6. Never really liked Part 3 all that much (although I might still get it), and I've only seen parts VII and VIII maybe twice each. Don't like them very much. Wouldn't care about having either of those ones. Part VIII is kinda dumb, and Part VII bored me to death. If they're all released individually, there's no way I'd buy the boxset. Paid around $30 for part 1 on blu, and I've gotta stop this re-buying shit. I've wasted way too much money over the years.

Sometimes I get a mood to watch the newline later installments but never 7 and 8 , never could understand the fan love for those two.

Took the words right out of my mouth. My thoughts exactly.

~Matt

[spawningblue]

Well they released part 1 on Blu Ray and included all the related extras from the old box set. I'm hoping when they release part 2 and 3 on Blu here, they do the same and include all the related extras from part 2 and 3 from the old box set, as well as the new extras from part 3 that were released internationally. Kind of weird they included extras on part 3 on the UK Blu but didn't include the old commentary, old extras, or the 3-D version. That worries me a bit. What was that about Blu Ray having so much space?

I will be mad if they do the same when they release the ultimate box set here. If I'm going to re buy all of them, I want to be able to replace my old box set. Something tells me I will be disappointed, and if that happens, then yes, I will believe Paramount are lazy bastards. There is no reason every Friday on Blu can't include all the old and new extras, as well as the 3-D version of part 3. I think that's a reasonable request so don't let us down Paramount!

[fceurich39]

anyone check out the lost tales from camp blood parts 1 and 2? i thought they were okay fan made films anyone have a link where i can watch lost tales from camp blood part 3 i hear it is only 5 minutes long i can't believe with it that short there wasn't room to put it on the part 3D DVD region1?

[Kolpitz]

Well they released part 1 on Blu Ray and included all the related extras from the old box set. I'm hoping when they release part 2 and 3 on Blu here, they do the same and include all the related extras from part 2 and 3 from the old box set, as well as the new extras from part 3 that were released internationally. Kind of weird they included extras on part 3 on the UK Blu but didn't include the old commentary, old extras, or the 3-D version. That worries me a bit. What was that about Blu Ray having so much space?

I will be mad if they do the same when they release the ultimate box set here. If I'm going to re buy all of them, I want to be able to replace my old box set. Something tells me I will be disappointed, and if that happens, then yes, I will believe Paramount are lazy bastards. There is no reason every Friday on Blu can't include all the old and new extras, as well as the 3-D version of part 3. I think that's a reasonable request so don't let us down Paramount!

Everyone keeps talking about how much space Blu-ray has and, yes, its has A LOT more space than DVD. But, what everyone seems to forget is that the movie itself also takes up A LOT more space than a DVD movie. With a company like Paramount, they use up a lot of space for the feature film itself, with a very high bit rate. This is why the majority of their bigger titles (Iron Man, Zodiac, etc.) are 2-disc sets on Blu-ray. I think if they did both versions of Part III on Blu-ray, there wouldn't be much room for extras. They'd then have to ask themselves if it was worth a second disc for this particular movie. You need to remember that as much as WE love Friday the 13th, it's not a blockbuster seller like Iron Man. Like Matt said, in this economy, everybody needs to be careful about releasing multiple disc copies of one particular title, especially a niche genre title (and, yes, as big as Friday the 13th is, it's still a niche genre title). No matter how well these Friday films sell, they'll never even be close to Paramount's top sellers of the year. They gave fans the 3-D version, while also including the 2-D version, in case they couldn't watch the 3-D one over and over again. They could've done a 2-Disc set and tacked an extra $5.00 onto the price tag, I suppose. But, I can guarantee that there would then be one or more people on here bitching about how they have to pay $20 - $30 for a movie they've already bought twice!

[Matt89]

Everyone keeps talking about how much space Blu-ray has and, yes, its has A LOT more space than DVD. But, what everyone seems to forget is that the movie itself also takes up A LOT more space than a DVD movie. With a company like Paramount, they use up a lot of space for the feature film itself, with a very high bit rate. This is why the majority of their bigger titles (Iron Man, Zodiac, etc.) are 2-disc sets on Blu-ray. I think if they did both versions of Part III on Blu-ray, there wouldn't be much room for extras. They'd then have to ask themselves if it was worth a second disc for this particular movie. You need to remember that as much as WE love Friday the 13th, it's not a blockbuster seller like Iron Man. Like Matt said, in this economy, everybody needs to be careful about releasing multiple disc copies of one particular title, especially a niche genre title (and, yes, as big as Friday the 13th is, it's still a niche genre title). No matter how well these Friday films sell, they'll never even be close to Paramount's top sellers of the year. They gave fans the 3-D version, while also including the 2-D version, in case they couldn't watch the 3-D one over and over again. They could've done a 2-Disc set and tacked an extra $5.00 onto the price tag, I suppose. But, I can guarantee that there would then be one or more people on here bitching about how they have to pay $20 - $30 for a movie they've already bought twice!

EXACTLY.

~Matt

[spawningblue]

Everyone keeps talking about how much space Blu-ray has and, yes, its has A LOT more space than DVD. But, what everyone seems to forget is that the movie itself also takes up A LOT more space than a DVD movie. With a company like Paramount, they use up a lot of space for the feature film itself, with a very high bit rate. This is why the majority of their bigger titles (Iron Man, Zodiac, etc.) are 2-disc sets on Blu-ray. I think if they did both versions of Part III on Blu-ray, there wouldn't be much room for extras. They'd then have to ask themselves if it was worth a second disc for this particular movie. You need to remember that as much as WE love Friday the 13th, it's not a blockbuster seller like Iron Man. Like Matt said, in this economy, everybody needs to be careful about releasing multiple disc copies of one particular title, especially a niche genre title (and, yes, as big as Friday the 13th is, it's still a niche genre title). No matter how well these Friday films sell, they'll never even be close to Paramount's top sellers of the year. They gave fans the 3-D version, while also including the 2-D version, in case they couldn't watch the 3-D one over and over again. They could've done a 2-Disc set and tacked an extra $5.00 onto the price tag, I suppose. But, I can guarantee that there would then be one or more people on here bitching about how they have to pay $20 - $30 for a movie they've already bought twice!

Well if they have money and discs to waste with their digital copies then that excuse doesn't work I'm sorry. I'm sure many more people would rather have an extra disc of bonus features, then a worthless digital copy. How many people do you know who actually use those? An extra disc costing too much money is the worst excuse and such a cop out, so everyone who mentions that, stop now! You sound foolish! We don't need the extras is hi def, throw them on DVD and everyone is happy! And don't say only big movies get digital copies, just about every movie these days does.

[Kolpitz]

Well if they have money and discs to waste with their digital copies then that excuse doesn't work I'm sorry. I'm sure many more people would rather have an extra disc of bonus features, then a worthless digital copy. How many people do you know who actually use those? An extra disc costing too much money is the worst excuse and such a cop out, so everyone who mentions that, stop now! You sound foolish! We don't need the extras is hi def, throw them on DVD and everyone is happy! And don't say only big movies get digital copies, just about every movie these days does.

I'm fairly certain that Paramount has never done a Digital Copy. I can't think of a single film.

Also, I find it funny that in a thread where people are spouting off conspiracy theories about Paramount holding the uncut footage hostage, about not caring about the films (despite the tremendous work put into the new transfers), about how lazy they are because they haven't searched every last inch of Paramount property for a disc that wouldn't sell enough to make it worth it, about how Paramount should basically put every other release on the backburner and focus all of their money and resources on Friday the 13th, that even after all that ... we're the ones who sound foolish. Hahaha

[spawningblue]

I'm fairly certain that Paramount has never done a Digital Copy. I can't think of a single film.

Also, I find it funny that in a thread where people are spouting off conspiracy theories about Paramount holding the uncut footage hostage, about not caring about the films (despite the tremendous work put into the new transfers), about how lazy they are because they haven't searched every last inch of Paramount property for a disc that wouldn't sell enough to make it worth it, about how Paramount should basically put every other release on the backburner and focus all of their money and resources on Friday the 13th, that even after all that ... we're the ones who sound foolish. Hahaha

I never said anything about uncut footage, but there is no reason that a Blu Ray can't include all the extras that have been released. If they don't, it's laziness on their part, end of discussion. Whether the movie takes up a lot of space or not, including all the extras DVD quality takes up next to no room so it shouldn't be a problem at all, again, unless they are lazy. And if the DVD can include both versions, there is no excuse for the Blu Ray not doing the same.

As for the comment about Paramount never including Digital copies, well that just means they have been saving a lot money, and shouldn't have a problem throwing in an extra DVD disc into this package. Sounds to me like they are a little cheap myself. When all these indie horror companies can afford to do 2 disc sets for little known horror films, then there is no excuse for Paramount not including a 2nd disc with one of the biggest horror franchises of all time. Really, an extra DVD doesn't cost that much! These companies buy them in such a big bulk that they cost less then a penny. I should know as I've worked at two post production companies. They throw out DVDs like they are nothing.

[CrazyFatEthel]

Ugh, I wonder how many times these movies are going to be released?!?

[Kolpitz]

I never said anything about uncut footage, but there is no reason that a Blu Ray can't include all the extras that have been released. If they don't, it's laziness on their part, end of discussion. Whether the movie takes up a lot of space or not, including all the extras DVD quality takes up next to no room so it shouldn't be a problem at all, again, unless they are lazy. And if the DVD can include both versions, there is no excuse for the Blu Ray not doing the same.

As for the comment about Paramount never including Digital copies, well that just means they have been saving a lot money, and shouldn't have a problem throwing in an extra DVD disc into this package. Sounds to me like they are a little cheap myself. When all these indie horror companies can afford to do 2 disc sets for little known horror films, then there is no excuse for Paramount not including a 2nd disc with one of the biggest horror franchises of all time. Really, an extra DVD doesn't cost that much! These companies buy them in such a big bulk that they cost less then a penny. I should know as I've worked at two post production companies. They throw out DVDs like they are nothing.

Well, it's hard to know what Paramount plans on doing with the Blu-rays of the Friday sequels when they're released in the US. The US division of Paramount and the UK division are separate companies so the US release may have both versions of the movie, plus all the extras. Personally, I could care less about extras. I've read Making Friday the 13th and Crystal Lake Memories so, at this point, there's NOTHING new I could learn from any of these extras. As for the new DVD release of Part III, who knows why Paramount didn't include the extras. Maybe they are holding onto them for the Blu-ray release. Some companies (Fox, MGM) are dropping the special features and some companies (Paramount, Warner Bros.) are including more features. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Matt89]

I never said anything about uncut footage, but there is no reason that a Blu Ray can't include all the extras that have been released. If they don't, it's laziness on their part, end of discussion. Whether the movie takes up a lot of space or not, including all the extras DVD quality takes up next to no room so it shouldn't be a problem at all, again, unless they are lazy. And if the DVD can include both versions, there is no excuse for the Blu Ray not doing the same.

As for the comment about Paramount never including Digital copies, well that just means they have been saving a lot money, and shouldn't have a problem throwing in an extra DVD disc into this package. Sounds to me like they are a little cheap myself. When all these indie horror companies can afford to do 2 disc sets for little known horror films, then there is no excuse for Paramount not including a 2nd disc with one of the biggest horror franchises of all time. Really, an extra DVD doesn't cost that much! These companies buy them in such a big bulk that they cost less then a penny. I should know as I've worked at two post production companies. They throw out DVDs like they are nothing.

Well, maybe they're being smart, not cheap. In terms of the economic crisis we're experiencing right now...hmmm...maybe they have the idea in mind that "History often repeats itself"??? And if you know any film history you'll know that Adolph Zukor, who was the owner of Paramount at the time, was able to save Paramount from near bankruptcy in 1935 (when it was under the title of "Paramount Publix (after the theater chains) Corp" and reorganized it as "Paramount Pictures Corporation" in 1936. Why did they almost go bankrupt? Because they weren't careful with their money. They're just being money conscious now, that's all. Who can blame them? Sure they're a multi-million dollar company, but that doesn't mean anything. I'm not saying an extra disc would make them go bankrupt, but Paramount was also a multi-million dollar company back in the '20s before the Depression hit, as was RKO (who unfortunately eventually went bankrupt themselves). They're just being smart with their money. They don't want to spend a lot of money on something that might not bring back much revenue. (Look what Cleopatra did to 20th Century-Fox)

But people have to understand that Paramount is a MAJOR STUDIO. They're not like little indie companies like Blue Underground or Anchor Bay who only focus on DVD releases. Paramount is production AND distribution. They're a busy company, and have definitely given Friday the 13th movies more than they deserve considering there are still TONS of other titles out there that deserve revisiting and are STILL only available on barebones editions on DVD. Some haven't even seen the light of DAY from them! (The African Queen, Love With the Proper Stranger). But of course, with Friday the 13th, nothing is EVER "good enough", right? :rolleyes:

~Matt

[Kolpitz]

But of course, with Friday the 13th, nothing is EVER "good enough", right? :rolleyes:

~Matt

If I worked for Paramount, and I was on these boards getting feedback anonymously, I wouldn't give us anything. I'd be thinking "Screw these ungrateful bastards, nothing's ever good enough! We give them the movies in widescreen finally and they want more. So we give them the box set and they want more. So, we give them the uncut original, in amazing 1080P and they want more. More! More!! More!!" That's what it feels like. They could release all eight original films, fully uncut, in exhaustive 2-Disc sets, with immaculate picture and sound quality and someone, somewhere would find something to whine about. That's just the way we roll. :fire:

[spawningblue]

Yeah but I'm not demanding anything new, just what's already been released! I think that's being quite fair. That sucks that all those classic films haven't been released or released in better editions, but in all fairness, it would take a lot more time and money to make new features or clean up old prints then it would be to throw on some features they already finished in DVD quality. I even said in my first post, there's a chance they may add all this on to the North American release as well, I just said it would be lazy if they didn't, and you guys jumped all over me. I think you guys just need to settle down and stop giving BJ's to Paramount. I think it's a pretty fair request to just not be lazy and throw on what they already have released. And don't give me that, "times are tough" BS. Yes they are, but like I said, an extra disc costs next to nothing, I promise you, it will not put them into the hole. That and if they were so worried about it, they could charge an extra dollar for the DVD, I doubt anyone would complain, and in the end they'd make more money back. Like how can they include the first two parts of the horror short, and then not include the last part!?

And sorry guys, not trying to be a dick here as I enjoy both of your opinions, but in this case I think you are WRONG WRONG WRONG if you think it's too much for what I'm asking. Anyways, no point arguing anymore as until the details for the North American Blu Ray are released, it's kind of pointless as they may include all of this. But again, if they don't, then they are a lazy company, once again, 'nuff said.

[Kolpitz]

I think you guys just need to settle down and stop giving BJ's to Paramount.

How else am I going to get into the film industry?!

[vampyr789]

Ugh, I wonder how many times these movies are going to be released?!?

...try telling Anchor Bay that...(Hellraiser, Halloween, Evil Dead)....;)

[Matt89]

Yeah but I'm not demanding anything new, just what's already been released! I think that's being quite fair. That sucks that all those classic films haven't been released or released in better editions, but in all fairness, it would take a lot more time and money to make new features or clean up old prints then it would be to throw on some features they already finished in DVD quality. I even said in my first post, there's a chance they may add all this on to the North American release as well, I just said it would be lazy if they didn't, and you guys jumped all over me. I think you guys just need to settle down and stop giving BJ's to Paramount. I think it's a pretty fair request to just not be lazy and throw on what they already have released. And don't give me that, "times are tough" BS. Yes they are, but like I said, an extra disc costs next to nothing, I promise you, it will not put them into the hole. That and if they were so worried about it, they could charge an extra dollar for the DVD, I doubt anyone would complain, and in the end they'd make more money back. Like how can they include the first two parts of the horror short, and then not include the last part!?

We'll have to wait for the blu-ray. It's becoming quite clear now that Paramount are starting to focus a bit more on blu-ray than DVD, so you never know. Maybe they're just waiting to release it on blu. (Maybe they figured, well, everyone already has the boxset, so why don't we just give them the 3-D version they've been asking for?) Cuz seriously, you're still stuck with the boxset (because the other films have yet to be released), not like you're gonna toss the part 3 disc because it's still part of the whole boxset AND does have part 4 on it as well. Part 3 was clearly released for those who wanted to finally see the movie in 3-D. Releasing it as a 2-disc would've been stupid.

~Matt

[thrashard76]

They could release all eight original films, fully uncut, in exhaustive 2-Disc sets, with immaculate picture and sound quality and someone, somewhere would find something to whine about. That's just the way we roll. :fire:

Not me, I'd be quite content. ;)

[Angelman]

Not me, I'd be quite content. ;)

Yeah, if that actually happened I would buy it no questions asked and be super happy.

[spawningblue]

We'll have to wait for the blu-ray. It's becoming quite clear now that Paramount are starting to focus a bit more on blu-ray than DVD, so you never know. Maybe they're just waiting to release it on blu. (Maybe they figured, well, everyone already has the boxset, so why don't we just give them the 3-D version they've been asking for?) Cuz seriously, you're still stuck with the boxset (because the other films have yet to be released), not like you're gonna toss the part 3 disc because it's still part of the whole boxset AND does have part 4 on it as well. Part 3 was clearly released for those who wanted to finally see the movie in 3-D. Releasing it as a 2-disc would've been stupid.

~Matt

I hope so, and yes this whole time if you read my first post I have been talking about the ultimate Blu Ray set that is supposed to come out. I just don't think it would be too hard to include all the old extras and all the new ones on the Blu ray discs, even if they are only DVD quality. And the 3-D version of part 3 should be a gimme, but it worries me a bit as they didn't include it on the UK version. Oh, and the theatrical version of Part 1 would be awesome as well! Anyways, I feel I have realistic expectations, as for some of the other requests.

Uncut versions of all the movies, as awesome as that would be, I know that that probably will never happen. I don't think they will go out of their way searching for them, or if they even exist. Maybe one day they'll be searching in their vaults though and come across them. :D We can dream I guess...

[Matt89]

Yeah sure that's realistic for a blu-ray release. But hey man I didn't mean to attack you personally. It's just that that happens to be a very common complaint from people, ("Paramount are lazy bastards") and quite frankly, it's bullshit. No they're not lazy. Look at the stellar job they've done with the transfers of parts 1 and 2, and many other transfers Paramount's done. They've always been pretty good with image quality. Sure they are lacking with some special editions, but Friday the 13th has received exceptional treatment on DVD and now on blu-ray, yet still people complain about bullshit.

~Matt

[DVD-fanatic-9]

Do you have anything new to say, Matt? Ever??

The broken-record act is getting mighty old.

[Matt89]

Do you have anything new to say, Matt? Ever??

Yeah, do you? :D :D :D

~Matt

[DVD-fanatic-9]

Yeah, do you? :D :D :D
Touche.

[rxfiend]

BD: And I understand Paramount is going to release special editions of a few more of the films now?

Farrands: Yeah, after we finished His Name Was Jason, I was contacted by a guy who produces the special features for many of the Paramount DVDs, and he had been searching for a guy who really understands the franchise. And I think they had run into some issues on the reissues of Parts 1-3, and Paramount wanted to do new things, new material for 4-6, and consequently we'll be doing 7 and 8. They wanted somebody with a lot of knowledge to bring something new to the table. And after the things we didn't get on our show, it was a great opportunity for me to come in and work with the people who actually own this material and be able to give fans more of what they want. I can't promise that it will have everything that everybody has always wanted to see, but we're getting there. We're making progress. We've found some amazing things that nobody has ever taken the time to look for. My editor Andrew Kasch and I have just been scavenging the lowest dregs of the Paramount vaults to find the things that fans want to see. We've have limited success with some things, but we're working on it and believe me, there's so much passion behind it. We're doing our best to put something out that will hopefully make the fans more satisfied than they were with the previous versions that Paramount put out.

BD: Anything specific you can tell us that we might see?

Farrands: It's still being worked out, I can't say a lot. There will be some scenes, especially in part 4, that fans will be VERY interested in seeing. That's all I can say right now. But there are quite a few clips that have been recently uncovered thanks to our work. And it was a lot of work!


more at: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/interview/539

[Matt89]

Well it's nice to know they're actually searching their vaults. And you people said Paramount was lazy....:D

~Matt

[Zombie Dude]

BD: And I understand Paramount is going to release special editions of a few more of the films now?

Farrands: Yeah, after we finished His Name Was Jason, I was contacted by a guy who produces the special features for many of the Paramount DVDs, and he had been searching for a guy who really understands the franchise. And I think they had run into some issues on the reissues of Parts 1-3, and Paramount wanted to do new things, new material for 4-6, and consequently we'll be doing 7 and 8. They wanted somebody with a lot of knowledge to bring something new to the table. And after the things we didn't get on our show, it was a great opportunity for me to come in and work with the people who actually own this material and be able to give fans more of what they want. I can't promise that it will have everything that everybody has always wanted to see, but we're getting there. We're making progress. We've found some amazing things that nobody has ever taken the time to look for. My editor Andrew Kasch and I have just been scavenging the lowest dregs of the Paramount vaults to find the things that fans want to see. We've have limited success with some things, but we're working on it and believe me, there's so much passion behind it. We're doing our best to put something out that will hopefully make the fans more satisfied than they were with the previous versions that Paramount put out.

BD: Anything specific you can tell us that we might see?

Farrands: It's still being worked out, I can't say a lot. There will be some scenes, especially in part 4, that fans will be VERY interested in seeing. That's all I can say right now. But there are quite a few clips that have been recently uncovered thanks to our work. And it was a lot of work!


more at: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/interview/539

This news really brought a smile to my face. So stuff does exist, and possibly there's stuff from Part 2 & 3 there too. Sounds like they weren't too happy with those re-releases special feature wise either.

I think this deserves this: :banana:

[DVD-fanatic-9]

Well it's nice to know they're actually searching their vaults. And you people said Paramount was lazy....:D
You're right and that was a very good thing to hear. If at least someone is putting some actual effort into this search, than I will be more optimistic. If they do the work, I'll put up the money and get the new editions.

Especially since I really need something new Friday the 13th wise to look forward to, I was able to see Farrands' His Name Was Jason documentary through Netflix and it was truly awful. Except for the behind the scenes photographs, it was a complete waste of my time.

[Matt89]

Especially since I really need something new Friday the 13th wise to look forward to, I was able to see Farrands' His Name Was Jason documentary through Netflix and it was truly awful. Except for the behind the scenes photographs, it was a complete waste of my time.

I'd say pretty much exactly the same thing about the Halloween: 25 Years of Terror DVD. Goddamn, what a mess of a documentary.

~Matt

[DVD-fanatic-9]

I'd say pretty much exactly the same thing about the Halloween: 25 Years of Terror DVD. Goddamn, what a mess of a documentary.
You know, I actually thought they did a decent job on that. But that's because I'm not a fan of the Halloween movie series. Just 1-2-3, and the rest can go to hell. But they actually managed to make me want to buy the newer special editions of Halloweens 4 and 5, just to have a complete set of the bonus features / panel discussions.

But now that I think about it, it is mostly fan gushings. And a lot of stuff about Michael Myers as a character. But at least he has a character. Jason Voorhees is just a guy in a hockey mask. Even with a sack on his head, he's just an interesting mystery at best.

The worst thing was hearing from idiots whose opinions weren't relevant. Sorry, Jeff Katz, but if anyone cares what you have to say, they shouldn't be helming a documentary (though, I did think his insights on the Going to Pieces documentary were more intelligent than usual for him). And who was that white-trash loser with the backwards hat, smoking, with a goatee? An 11th grade pot dealer? God, they really will hire anyone nowadays and call them movie critics!

But I actually enjoyed that whole thing with the fan-made films on the Halloween 25 years set. As opposed to the terrible, boring stuff for His Name Was Jason. Hell, the 6th movie even commented on people having a fascination with the inner character of Michael Myers. Whereas Jason Goes to Hell just saw Jason as a novelty, to sell the same sort of 4th of July burgers America does anyway with a serial killer theme. They inspire different kinds of tributes. The Halloween stuff was more creative.

And I thought P.J. Soles did a better job as narrator than Tom Savini did. It was pretty classy. And the interviews were better, more focused on the actual films, you got more information (even if it wasn't enough) from crew & cast, it was put in better historical place/form, and they had lots of great location footage. Also, I don't think they fucked with the music for the movies either. Most of them. I've rewatched it several times. And I know I won't ever feel like re-watching His Name Was Jason. It was so bad, I kept pressing the Display button on my remote hoping it was getting close to being over. So Halloween 25 has much more replay value.

Maybe the weakest link are the Panel Discussions. Because I haven't even watched most of them. I watched maybe 1 or 2 all the way through and they weren't interesting enough to hold my attention. I only really remember getting through Ellie Cornell's. That was it, I think. His Name Was Jason was like one really bad 90 minute episode of "I Love the 80's" (or any other incarnation of the series, take your pick). Informal to the point of not giving any information whatsoever. All they did was crack jokes and laugh and show clips with almost none of the original movie music and talk about Jason and his creative kills. Oh, and pimp the remake.

I actually thought the Halloween documentary was very good for its' type and the greatest sin was that it wasn't longer.

[spawningblue]

This news really brought a smile to my face. So stuff does exist, and possibly there's stuff from Part 2 & 3 there too. Sounds like they weren't too happy with those re-releases special feature wise either.

I think this deserves this: :banana:

Yes, yes it does! :banana: And yeah, hopefully for the ultimate Blu Ray box set they do add more to part 2 and 3, or at least add an extra bonus disc that covers all the movies! Great news!

[Stige]

might damn well end up buying the box after all IF they find something other than fluff and rehashed interviews, but it will HAVE to be something I never thought would come such as unut footage seemless branching or the like....

got the region B blu's of 2 and 3 today in the mail so my friday the 13th tomorrow is set:)

[Grim]

might damn well end up buying the box after all IF they find something other than fluff and rehashed interviews, but it will HAVE to be something I never thought would come such as unut footage seemless branching or the like....

got the region B blu's of 2 and 3 today in the mail so my friday the 13th tomorrow is set:)

Yeah I'm kind of tired of interviews concerning the series. You can only hear Betsy Palmer's story of why she took the film, Adrienne King nervously being convinced to scream, or basically every principal crew member take credit for the idea of Jason coming out of the lake at the end so many times before it just gets stale. And like others have said, these interviews are just rehashing what has been in printed form for years. The only thing I'm really interested in at this point is deleted footage, so if they can't find anything and half of these end being basically barebones, it's not going to bother me much.

I'm telling ya folks, buy the Bracke book. Once you give that a thorough read, suddenly every new set of interviews they come out with just seem redundant and pointless.

[Marv Inc.]

This is great news, about time someone enthuiastic got searching the vaults. would be great to have the cut stuff from part VI put back in, as that was in pretty good shape.

[Wez4555]

good news with the vault searching. ill stfu now and wait for stats.

[Angelman]

Yeah sure that's realistic for a blu-ray release. But hey man I didn't mean to attack you personally. It's just that that happens to be a very common complaint from people, ("Paramount are lazy bastards") and quite frankly, it's bullshit. No they're not lazy. Look at the stellar job they've done with the transfers of parts 1 and 2, and many other transfers Paramount's done. They've always been pretty good with image quality. Sure they are lacking with some special editions, but Friday the 13th has received exceptional treatment on DVD and now on blu-ray, yet still people complain about bullshit.

~Matt

I'm not so sure. I think the "Paramount is Lazy" thing comes from YEARS of bare bones releases of even their most profitable titles. Take Star Trek for example... until recently we got very bare bones releases. So I think, compared to other major studios releases, it was a fair assesment. Maybe not anymore though.

And yes, Paramount needs to be smart with money. But they also need to MAKE money. If I were the head of Home Video at Paramount I would have had a blu-ray box set, with proper framing and all the bells and whistles ready to roll NOW. Horror fans are much more consistent buyers than "classics" fans. I would have bought that box set DAY ONE, as would many other on this board. Go to boxofficemojo and compare budget to profit on current and past films. Horror kills at the B.O. and it is low risk financially. Being smart with money is putting it where it is low risk and great reward. A Blu Box of F13 fits the bill and you could ride the coattails of the re-make as a giant ad campaign.

I was happy to get pt. 3 in 3-D though, even if the acting was horrendous. Oof. It was bad.

[Matt89]

Well, actually, Paramount seems to have got the framing RIGHT this time. To quote myself from another thread (only because people should see this) - I compared the original 2004 boxset release of Friday the 13th from Paramount, the 2003 R2 uncut edition of Friday the 13th and the same shot from the flashback sequences from the beginning of Friday the 13th, Part 2:

I compared three screengrabs (one from the old 2004 release of Friday the 13th, the 2003 R2 of Friday the 13th (which has the same framing as the new DVD/blu-ray) and the original release of Friday the 13th, Part 2, in that order.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9718/0001yw4.png
Friday the 13th (2004 boxset release)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/671/121kk7.png
Friday the 13th (2003 R2 release)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6739/0000kk4.png
Friday the 13th, Part 2 (1999 release)

Well...I think we have our answer here. The screengrabs from Friday the 13th, Part 2 and the R2 of Friday the 13th show just about the same amount of image on the sides of the frame (the R2 actually shows a bit more) and the matting done on the R2 is set a bit higher than the Friday the 13th, Part 2 DVD, but more or less, the same "cropping". And the Paramount transfer from 2004 has completely different framing. Yeah, clearly the Paramount transfer is wrong.

Just so people can see the differences here.

~Matt

[Zombie Dude]

Yes, yes it does! :banana: And yeah, hopefully for the ultimate Blu Ray box set they do add more to part 2 and 3, or at least add an extra bonus disc that covers all the movies! Great news!

I'm hoping they add that extra stuff once a set comes out. I'm quite looking forward to it.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Great to hear someone is digging. I kept offering to do it and kept getting ignored. I bet most, if not all, of the cut stuff is there somewhere. It's just a question of how long will it take to find it. Let's all hope they start at the right edge and get lucky with early boxes to show promise, so the suits won't pull the plug on the quest too soon.

[captain_brandon]

I've heard that the director of part 8 has a workprint of that movie that is 2.5 hours long. Not sure why Paramount and the director didn't come to an agreement for the boxset (perhaps $ was an issue?). Hopefully something gets worked out for the "deluxe edition."

Yup. Writer/director Rob Hedden mentioned it in his commentary track for Part VIII (that the first cut of the film was over two 1/2 hours long) from the '04 boxset we all have. Anyone like me who has it can go back and listen to it. Basically there was more storyline, such as Sean's bestfriend who is the diver who's headed to the Olympics at a young age, ect. Some more fleshing out of the teenage spam before they meet they're end at Mr. Voorhee's usual vengeful hands. Plus he shot each death three ways: Overly gory/violent, tamer with less blood flow, and then the tamest that of course they had to eventual use and even edit down more, cause at that point, as he and many others noted, the MPAA were really just gunning for the genre film world.

Hope that helped, and yeah, hope it's Deluxe Edition will be well worth it as the rest of the first 8 films in the Paramount cannon are released later on this year ...

Great to hear someone is digging. I kept offering to do it and kept getting ignored. I bet most, if not all, of the cut stuff is there somewhere. It's just a question of how long will it take to find it. Let's all hope they start at the right edge and get lucky with early boxes to show promise, so the suits won't pull the plug on the quest too soon.


Exactly. It's probably there. Hell, if good ol' Don May Jr. has original negatives of Carpenter's almighty Halloween, then no doubt, the long exercised footage from the first 8 Friday's is in the Paramount vaults somewhere ...

[fceurich39]

I'm hoping they add that extra stuff once a set comes out. I'm quite looking forward to it.

i guess there is still some hope for part 7 to be uncut when the new edition comes out on either dvd or blu-ray box set

also anyone notice the new friday the 13th part 3D dvd deluxe edition is hard to find everywhere is sold out all i see is parts 1 and 2 deluxe editions i'm glad i got early in the morning on the release date

[vampyr789]

I have just been scavenging the lowest dregs of the Paramount vaults to find the things that fans want to see. We've have limited success with some things, but we're working on it and believe me, there's so much passion behind it. We're doing our best to put something out that will hopefully make the fans more satisfied than they were with the previous versions that Paramount put out.

BD: Anything specific you can tell us that we might see?

Farrands: It's still being worked out, I can't say a lot. There will be some scenes, especially in part 4, that fans will be VERY interested in seeing. That's all I can say right now. But there are quite a few clips that have been recently uncovered thanks to our work. And it was a lot of work!


I think this deserves this: :banana:
Yes, yes it does! :banana:

omg!! this most definatly deserves this :banana:!!! yay!!

From the Interview: BD: And when will those be in stores?

Farrands: 4-6 will be coming out in June, I’ve been told. And 7 and 8 will come out after that, and I am hearing there will be a new boxed set before the end of the year, but I don’t know if that is official yet.

so only less than a year!!! :D can't wait!!! so i will have to hold out on those single disc editions

i guess there is still some hope for part 7 to be uncut when the new edition comes out on either dvd or blu-ray box set


well, they have the footage...(& for parts 6) why not clean them up and put them back in?

[NaturesMistake]

Yay!!! there is still hope! I hope they get footage for all the films this time.

[vampyr789]

Yay!!! there is still hope! I hope they get footage for all the films this time.

yeah really! u can read here to see what was cut from every film:

Part 1 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
Part 2 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
Part 3 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
Part 4 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
Part 5 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
Part 6 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
Part 7 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
Part 8 (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)

[spawningblue]

We were annoying about it with MBV and look what happened, we got that movie uncut after years of people saying it will never happen. Now after hearing how there is no more footage, it seems like maybe there is, it just needed someone dedicated enough to find it. While I highly doubt this will be tons of deleted kill footage, I'm sure there will be some extra gore in the found film.

Anyways, I think it's stupid to be insulted because we hope to see all the uncut footage, at the same time I think we should all be realistic, and probably not expect fully uncut versions of all the films. It's always good to be positive, but I think at most we'll get a couple extra scenes uncut, and maybe if we're lucky one of the movies uncut, like part 6 maybe?

[bigdaddyhorse]

Yup. Writer/director Rob Hedden mentioned it in his commentary track for Part VIII (that the first cut of the film was over two 1/2 hours long) from the '04 boxset we all have. Anyone like me who has it can go back and listen to it. Basically there was more storyline, such as Sean's bestfriend who is the diver who's headed to the Olympics at a young age, ect. Some more fleshing out of the teenage spam before they meet they're end at Mr. Voorhee's usual vengeful hands. Plus he shot each death three ways: Overly gory/violent, tamer with less blood flow, and then the tamest that of course they had to eventual use and even edit down more, cause at that point, as he and many others noted, the MPAA were really just gunning for the genre film world.




Part 8 with the overly gory/violent kill scenes would make it a better movie. Hope he has all these or knows where they are. They would make a great extra feature for the dvd, gore comparisons and how the MPAA got out of hand. But leave the hard stuff in the film unless it's a director's decision and he likes the mid-level better. As long as they are all on the disc.:D

[shithead]

BD: And I understand Paramount is going to release special editions of a few more of the films now?

Farrands: Yeah, after we finished His Name Was Jason, I was contacted by a guy who produces the special features for many of the Paramount DVDs, and he had been searching for a guy who really understands the franchise. And I think they had run into some issues on the reissues of Parts 1-3, and Paramount wanted to do new things, new material for 4-6, and consequently we'll be doing 7 and 8. They wanted somebody with a lot of knowledge to bring something new to the table. And after the things we didn't get on our show, it was a great opportunity for me to come in and work with the people who actually own this material and be able to give fans more of what they want. I can't promise that it will have everything that everybody has always wanted to see, but we're getting there. We're making progress. We've found some amazing things that nobody has ever taken the time to look for. My editor Andrew Kasch and I have just been scavenging the lowest dregs of the Paramount vaults to find the things that fans want to see. We've have limited success with some things, but we're working on it and believe me, there's so much passion behind it. We're doing our best to put something out that will hopefully make the fans more satisfied than they were with the previous versions that Paramount put out.

BD: Anything specific you can tell us that we might see?

Farrands: It's still being worked out, I can't say a lot. There will be some scenes, especially in part 4, that fans will be VERY interested in seeing. That's all I can say right now. But there are quite a few clips that have been recently uncovered thanks to our work. And it was a lot of work!


more at: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/interview/539

Glad i only bought the first, definitely holding out for the boxset before i buy anything else.

[captain_brandon]

Part 8 with the overly gory/violent kill scenes would make it a better movie. Hope he has all these or knows where they are. They would make a great extra feature for the dvd, gore comparisons and how the MPAA got out of hand. But leave the hard stuff in the film unless it's a director's decision and he likes the mid-level better. As long as they are all on the disc.:D

Agree'd. ;)

All of the long trimmed gore sequences/kills re-inserted would help the laster half of the series. Part VIII, as flawed as it is and as much as I only prefer the first half of the series, the first five (yeah included the black sheep, Part V), I do enjoy Renee (the always smokin' hot Jensen Daggett from Major League 3: Back to the Minors and a fine episode of Brisco County Junior), and plus the unusual/eccentric setting for the then very last instalment. It's not the super-shit film many say it is. Hell the Line New Cinema instalments were twice as worst if ya ask me.

So indeed, bring'em on mi amigos ... :D

[vampyr789]

i hope they find the alt ending to part 3, (but not put it back in..just as a special feature :D) same w/ the cheesy eye opening at the end of part 2!

u know what be even better? if they got the music video for "He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)" that would be awesome!! :D

[captain_brandon]

i hope they find the alt ending to part 3, (but not put it back in..just as a special feature :D) same w/ the cheesy eye opening at the end of part 2

vampry man, me too! Steve Miner said he took it out cause he thought the actresses make-up on the makshift alter never truely looked good, but I hope it can be found, or some stills of it. It was also said by that fine film's writer (Part 2 is my personal favorite; check out what I wrote about it on the Friday contest this month on Page 3 of the thread), Ron Kurz, said the eyes opening and the wink was always ment to be there in order to let us the audieance know that Paul was indeed dead as Giny and us suspected.

So I hope that puts to rest (finally) the rumors. It's from the Crystal Lake Memories book. John Furey, who played Paul, NEVER walked off the set. That was always just a rumor. His character was always ment to die off-screen as was written and filmed ...

[Zombie Dude]

i guess there is still some hope for part 7 to be uncut when the new edition comes out on either dvd or blu-ray box set
I guess we will soon find out.
so only less than a year!!! :D can't wait!!! so i will have to hold out on those single disc editions?
:banana:

[Bobbywoodhogan]

I just hope we get Parts II and VII uncut and I'll be happy.

[Grim]

I just hope we get Parts II and VII uncut and I'll be happy.

I wouldn't count on that happening, but yeah that would be sweet.

[captain_brandon]

I wouldn't count on that happening, but yeah that would be sweet.

Gotta say I would love to most see Parts 2 and V (A New Beginning) uncut. Even though I've all but given up, I'm glad that Daniel Ferrands says they're allowed access to Paramounts vaults to look, though I'm dissappointed with that "limited access" shit. What a lame-oid excuse from Cashamount. It's mainly the first 5 films I wanna see uncut, as they're my favorites. The movies after that didn't have the same Exploitation, old school first part of the '80s Slasher vibe, and as such, except for liking Parts of Part VIII (and that's also mainly cause know we all know poor Rob Heddon was fighting a losing battle since day 1, and Jensen Dagget as Renne the heroine is beyond hot and a ding ringer for fellow smokin' hottie Renee Estevez) that I sort of dig. Not's not "THE" legendary bad/inept movie many make it out to be. The next two were far worse. Plus any added gore to that film would help it a lot.

Gotta say I would almost cry is the nearly 50 seconds of add grue to Parts 2 and V respectiveally we offered up or re-inserted back into the film.

At this point what I am looking forward to most is:

* Commentary tracks by the original screen writers and directors. NOT "fan boy" fellow film makers who like me were very little kids or just starting to be born as the series hit it's mid '80s stride and didn't have involvement what-so-ever in the productions cause, natch, they weren't fuckin' there and I personally feel don't need to comment. Like us they've only met original Friday stars at the North American convention circuit and read Peter Bracke's (amazing) book and know of some general trivia, so why oh why bother to have them comment? Who wants to truely (as in how many people) hear them comment on a film project that wasn't even they'res?

* As uncut as they're ever going to be, bottom line *crosses fingers*

* All films re-mastered in HD.

* Return to the original '80s North American artwork. None of that re-designed form Parts V onward stupid, ugly bullshit the poor barebones editions got.

* No slim cases. Bigger bulky cases as I don't mind.

* Make the boxset plastic or a metal tin. NOT cheap to produce, way too easy to tear coardboard paper shit. That didn't work in '04 as my first boxset case holder got tore up to shit in a matter of weeks just by me lightly playin' with it, dammit.

* An all new, quiet (no music interuptions or scene interuptions, ect) no-holds-barred "So what do you REALLY think of you're respective instalment?" and makings of Q&A session, hosted by Mr. Peter Bracke and featuring most of the series stars that they can find. Each should be included on a second disc in the case and should at least run over the 40 minute mark and should be professionally edited. Get Michael "slipcase" Felsher's RedShirt Pictures involved. Gotta love that guy.

* All new Stereo and 5.1 professional re-mixes for those of us with solid 5.1 theater system players. The distortion on the first 5's original Mono mixes sadly ruin SO much of the first superior five entries for me. Please fix them.

* All Theatrical trailers and Teasers that are found included.

* Easter Eggs, like the amusing ones on the 2nd His Name Was Jason disc, playfully strewn on all discs'.

* All past extras re-mastered in HD and included.


If all of this happens, then I promise me, as the hardcore old school Voorhees fanatic that I am, shall NEVER, ever bitch at Cashamount (oops, I ment Paramount I guess;)) again ...

[mclay18]

Captain Brandon, the first three movies' SEs have better picture and 5.1 remixes of the original mono tracks. Aside from the contentious issue of there being slight cropping on the first film, it has all the bonus features it should've received in 1999 or 2004.

When Paramount does the re-releases of the last five entries to coincide with the remake's DVD/Blu-ray release, they'll probably put out a boxset collecting all eight SE versions of the Paramount-era Friday flicks.

[Regurgitate]

Is it really that big of a deal to get like 3 seconds of extra gore restored to some of these movies? Part 7 was the only one that seemed excessively pruned to me. I've only watched part 8 a couple times and that one seemed tame, but it also sucked.

I got the F13th Blu Ray and thought it was great. The framing did not interfere with my enjoyment at all. Can't wait to get the rest of them once they go Blu.

[vampyr789]

When Paramount does the re-releases of the last five entries to coincide with the remake's DVD/Blu-ray release, they'll probably put out a boxset collecting all eight SE versions of the Paramount-era Friday flicks.

and hopefully an awesome bonus disc to go with it.

[vampyr789]

Part 7 was the only one that seemed excessively pruned to me. I've only watched part 8 a couple times and that one seemed tame, but it also sucked.


Part 8 would've been better if it were uncut.
one film that also was lacking in gore was part 5.

[DVD-fanatic-9]

Part 8 would've been better if it were uncut.
Actually, I think it's just fine the way it is. :D

I honestly think the film wouldn't be as intense as it is if they made the killers more bloody.

[captain_brandon]

Part 8 would've been better if it were uncut.
one film that also was lacking in gore was part 5.

I agree, as Part VIII was heavily edited, once again. Damn MPAA inforced cuts, grrr! Rob Hedden talks about it in his commentary track on the '04 boxset (by the way, even though I don't agree with everything he says--such as he claims that for the first time he wanted to enject some much needed humor into the franchise with his instalment--hmmmm, one wonders if Paramount ever screen'd Part VI for him? Probably not. But still a dman good listen if you care about what chould-have-been-better films had they not had budget restraints back in the day), and to hear his side of what he was artistically goin' for.)

Yeah, Steinmann says that over 47 seconds of grue was cut out, and that's also why they had to do many off-screen kills. So yeah, it was edited to shit as well. Supposedly Part V is pretty much the series high point, or what have been, for tits & stage blood. Just noting ...

[Zombie Dude]

Part 8 would've been better if it were uncut.
one film that also was lacking in gore was part 5.

I heard there's a 2 hour version of Part 8. That would be cool to see.

[Katatonia]

Is it really that big of a deal to get like 3 seconds of extra gore restored to some of these movies?

For some it is a big deal. I've never really cared much one way or the other if a film was cut by a second or so of gore...if it didn't actually hurt the plot or flow of the film.

Certainly, I would always like a film to be fully uncut, but I'm more concerned with films that are heavily edited, i.e. missing minutes of footage.

[Zombie Dude]

For some it is a big deal. I've never really cared much one way or the other if a film was cut by a second or so of gore...if it didn't actually hurt the plot or flow of the film.

Certainly, I would always like a film to be fully uncut, but I'm more concerned with films that are heavily edited, i.e. missing minutes of footage.

Well I was watching Part 2 last night and that was badly cut. Almost every death suffered from trimmings. I hope the footage for that exists.