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spawningblue
08-08-2008, 02:03 AM
Looks like they are re-releasing the boxset to coincide with the new movie. Here's hoping we get uncut versions of the movies now that Paramount is seeing all the hype for the new movie!!

"Although rumored for some time now, it appears Paramount's standing resolute in its decision to produce a new Friday the 13th DVD box set. No word on details or release date, but with that new Friday the 13th film coming out and all, it seems like the right thing to do. Dread Central seems to have been tipped off by some "official" sources, so we'll see what transpires in the coming months!"

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7255


What else do you think would make the boxset complete?

rhett
08-08-2008, 02:14 AM
What else do you think would make the boxset complete?
An "I love the 80's!" CD? Or perhaps they go the Anchor Bay route and just add in a Jason mask.

Paramount will never release these movies uncut, because honestly, there's little return for their work, because everyone will buy these movies regardless. Even the staunchest of complainers will still pick up the films because, well, it's that or nothing, and fans wouldn't settle for nadda. It's too much work, the source material is of varying quality and I'm sure there's licensing issues when you're taking cuts out of a shoe box from the director's basement. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just hate seeing everyone get their hopes up.

If they're pumping out a new box set, I wonder if they'll bust out a new MY BLOODY VALENTINE. Uncut. :D

bigdaddyhorse
08-08-2008, 02:45 AM
They'll probably do just like they did with the Godfather (to coincide with the video game), and just re-release the same thing with a new paper back cover.
Uncut will make me buy it (all films, not just the first), I don't think anything else less than hour or so of new deleted scenes could. Not getting my hopes up.

shithead
08-08-2008, 03:25 AM
I have a feeling that they will finally release the first one uncut, they have to....right???

vampyr789
08-08-2008, 03:58 AM
I wonder if they'll bust out a new MY BLOODY VALENTINE. Uncut. :D

^^ that would make my day!!!

i want all of the films UNCUT (especially 1,2,and 4)
it want to see 3 in 3D. (that would be cool!!)
ooh, another great addition would be if they put the audio commentary from F13th part 1 R2 DVD on this set!!

i would buy that any day!!

Mutilated Prey
08-08-2008, 04:24 AM
Part 7 seems to be the one that was the most heavily cut - atrocious! Whata bunch of dummies!

rhett
08-08-2008, 05:18 AM
Part 7 seems to be the one that was the most heavily cut - atrocious! Whata bunch of dummies!
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the gore in 1, 2 and 4, but 7 is a tough watch with all those cuts. That's the one movie that would really benefit from the uncut treatment. With all the footage Buechler apparently has, I wish Paramount would get off their righteous asses and do it already!

Katatonia
08-08-2008, 05:55 AM
Paramount and F13? It's a toss up. If they actually had the balls to release some uncut versions, it would be great...but I seriously doubt it.

deplop cinema
08-08-2008, 06:00 AM
YES! At this point I'd demand uncut versions of ALL the films with director's commentary. Otherwise what's the point of even having a new box set... Part 3 in actual 3-D would be incredible (that even doable? i remember hearing about 3-D vhs versions back in the day that required some kinda special tv or vcr setup). And it UBER pissed me off that part 5 got absolutely zero attention or recognition in the special features. No interviews or anything. I WANT MIQUEL A. NUNEZ INTERVIEWS DAMMIT! AND A GROWN UP CRACK ADDICT REGGIE RECKLESS! YAYEAH!

NaturesMistake
08-08-2008, 06:13 AM
Parts two,five,and seven are the most heavily cut with six and eight not too far behind. The thing about eight is that they shot multiple versions of each murder, so they went with the least gory versions. That's why it doesn't cut away like "New Blood" does. "New Blood" only had gory takes, so they chopped the fuck out of it.


At least Friday the 13th parts two, five, six and eight still have gore. Seven was robbed of it. However, I'm more interested in parts two, five and eight because that footage has NEVER been released. Part six had some deleted footage on Paramount's dvd set, but it was FAR from complete. If you want to see what was missing, "The Crystal Lake Memoirs" has tons of stills of deleted gore.

Dave
08-08-2008, 06:14 AM
3-D playback on Part 3 exists, but for a price.

http://home.q03.itscom.net/nsa/vhd.htm

Pretty much worthless considering the age of the discs and I believe they are P&S. Still, apparently the system is quite amazing on the 3D side of it.

Clayton
08-08-2008, 06:39 AM
3-D playback on Part 3 exists, but for a price.

http://home.q03.itscom.net/nsa/vhd.htm

Pretty much worthless considering the age of the discs and I believe they are P&S. Still, apparently the system is quite amazing on the 3D side of it.

I have a horrific "3-D" version I pulled off ebay that looks really close to this and it was just awful, ruined the image with hues and it was blurry and soft to the point that it was just a barely "3-D" mess.

shithead
08-08-2008, 07:49 AM
At the very least they could use the original Poster art for each film this time.

But even that is probably asking too much...

Rockmjd
08-08-2008, 08:00 AM
They'll screw this up somehow. I still have all of the individual releases and it would take something good for me to depart with them.

KR~!
08-08-2008, 11:40 AM
I think this will just be the same shit as the last box set but with a new sticker slap on the cover. If there is anything new, it will be a trailer for the new movie. Remember folks, this is Paramount, so do not get your hopes up high or don't even get any hope for that matter.

rxfiend
08-08-2008, 11:58 AM
I bet this will be all the F13 / Jason films in one set (New Line and Paramount are working together with the new film, so why not!), that documentary that's being made regarding the whole series (similar to Halloween 25 years of terror) and perhaps a ticket to see the new film.

fceurich39
08-08-2008, 04:54 PM
will probably pick it up anyway

HAEMORRHAGE
08-08-2008, 05:13 PM
I haven't purchased the previous set due to it not being uncut. From what I've heard, the Australian version of it is uncut. Anyone have this to confirm it?

Mutilated Prey
08-08-2008, 05:22 PM
I have the previous box set, and unless these new releases are uncut I don't see the point. The special features disc is pretty cool.

BoredSeal
08-08-2008, 06:34 PM
Is there any petition for releasing all movies uncut? Damn, if they miss even this business opportunity, they deserve Jason´s visit! :(

Sinister Ash
08-08-2008, 06:50 PM
I haven't purchased the previous set due to it not being uncut. From what I've heard, the Australian version of it is uncut. Anyone have this to confirm it?

I think the aussie version is uncut, but not 100% sure. I know for a fact that the HK DVD release of part 1 is uncut.

pdw
08-08-2008, 07:26 PM
will probably pick it up anyway

I priolly won't. If it's not uncut, I usually don't bother.

Stige
08-08-2008, 07:31 PM
if part 2,3,4,5,6 or even one or two of those are uncut I would buy it

if it's just repackaging , then I think paramount is milking a dead cow

X-human
08-08-2008, 08:11 PM
They'll probably do just like they did with the Godfather (to coincide with the video game), and just re-release the same thing with a new paper back cover.

Paramount just did a 4k HD remastering of The Godfather with Robert Harris. Not that this means this will be an HD remastering of F13th. Was the last mastering done in HD? If not they're bound to get around to it, one can hope that they'll bother to do it uncut. There's always hope right?

I'll do without until they're uncut, simply because I only want to buy them once and I figure an uncut version is in the cards eventually.

Grim
08-08-2008, 08:56 PM
If they release the box set on blu-ray as well, that would be sweet, but they probably never will. I remember watching the deleted stuff for Part 6 on the first box set and the deleted footage looked just as good as the main feature. Put it back in!

Bobbywoodhogan
08-08-2008, 09:27 PM
All i want is Part VII uncut thats it, thats the film that needs to be released uncut.

NaturesMistake
08-08-2008, 10:42 PM
I have a Japanese 3d version of Friday the 13th part 3d that looks pretty damn good in 3d.

hellraiser40
08-08-2008, 10:47 PM
couldn't care less for commentaries (have never listened to any of those) and extras, only want these movies uncut

bigdaddyhorse
08-08-2008, 11:34 PM
I haven't purchased the previous set due to it not being uncut. From what I've heard, the Australian version of it is uncut. Anyone have this to confirm it?


The first movie is uncut in the UK and probably everywhere else too, as Warner Bros holds the overseas rights to that. Unfortunatly, they only own that one and Paramount holds the worldwide rights to 2-8, so those are the same R-cut-to-shit versions everywhere, except for maybe some bootlegs.:fuck:

Zombie Dude
08-09-2008, 12:59 AM
I haven't purchased the previous set due to it not being uncut. From what I've heard, the Australian version of it is uncut. Anyone have this to confirm it?

Only part one is uncut in the Australian set. Each film is on its own disk, but there's no bonus disk.

fceurich39
08-09-2008, 01:49 AM
i have a feeling paramount may included a couple new things in this box set but i doubt it will be uncut versions of any of the films but hey who knows paramount is releasing alot of older titles through legend films dvd maybe they will surprise us

KR~!
08-09-2008, 02:15 AM
I will LOVE to see them all uncut and would pre-order it if it was true, but they are so half ass with everything that it would take a miracle for them to finally give the fans what they want.

Matt89
08-09-2008, 03:44 AM
I will LOVE to see them all uncut and would pre-order it if it was true, but they are so half ass with everything that it would take a miracle for them to finally give the fans what they want.

Well you have to give Paramount credit for the fact that they consistently put out DVDs that have fantastic image quality.

But then again, you have to give Paramount the benefit of the doubt. I mean, they're Friday the 13th movies. I can understand Paramount not showing much pride in owning those movies. Look at some of the great Special Editions they've put out. A Place in the Sun, Sunset Boulevard, To Catch a Thief, Roman Holiday, Breakfast at Tiffany's. THOSE are the movies that matter to Paramount and most major studios. They're the films that the studios are known for putting out. They're the films that got those studios their reputation. (Which is probably why Warner doesn't really give a rat's ass aboyt movies like Salem's Lot and Creepshow.) But I'll side with you guys and say if they really don't give a shit about movies like this then why don't they just sell them, or sub-license them to a company who would take the time to give fans what they really want.

But really, as long as Paramount owns them, you guys need to stop dreaming. They WON'T get released uncut, and if they do...well...you can all come by my house (I'll give you my address) and give me a big 'ol smack in the face. :D

~Matt

indiephantom
08-09-2008, 04:03 AM
will wait for blu-ray boxset.

maybrick
08-09-2008, 04:07 AM
Aside from Part 2 I'm not sure any of the F13s really suffer from being cut. If Paramount decided for whatever reason to finally release them uncut it would be cool, but would they really be "better" movies as a result? I'm just wondering. I own part 1 on dvd but have acquired the uncut edition via torrent, and to be frank, I'm not sure that the added footage really matters. I'm just used to the cut version, I guess.

killit
08-09-2008, 04:54 AM
will wait for blu-ray boxset.

Yes, the smart thing would be to issue this on bluray at the same time

HAEMORRHAGE
08-09-2008, 07:42 AM
Only part one is uncut in the Australian set. Each film is on its own disk, but there's no bonus disk.



WEAK!!!!!!!

Zombie Dude
08-09-2008, 07:49 AM
WEAK!!!!!!!

That would be why I don't own it.;) Still beats two films to a disc.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-09-2008, 03:51 PM
Aside from Part 2 I'm not sure any of the F13s really suffer from being cut.
Most fans say The New Blood is the worst victim of being cut. Certainly, the scene of Scott's throat slitting is more bloody than anything seen in The New Blood, or even all those deaths combined. Plus, A New Beginning is nearly bloodless as well. People complain the most about Jason Takes Manhattan being bloodless, but that has the most painful to watch throat-slitting of the series. It felt the most real.



If Paramount decided for whatever reason to finally release them uncut it would be cool, but would they really be "better" movies as a result? I'm just wondering. I own part 1 on dvd but have acquired the uncut edition via torrent, and to be frank, I'm not sure that the added footage really matters. I'm just used to the cut version, I guess.
I'm used to the cut versions too, and what I'd be more than happy with is just having the uncut gore footage somewhere in the boxset. Anywhere, really. And Paramount really needs to fix their side-by-side comparison b.s. That was awful. I mean, it was a nice choice if we were given one - but they didn't. They gave us 1 option and it was half-screen. I'll tell you, with New Line's Infinifilm technology - or hell, even MGM/Fox's multi-angle stuff, you could toggle back and forth between comparison and fullscreen if you wanted. And even that would have been better than what Paramount did.



WEAK!!!!!!!
That would be why I don't own it. ;) Still beats two films to a disc.
That's another thing Paramount really needs to fix. Another sign of how damn cheap they got. And I'll tell you, which a setup like that, it's almost insulting that when it came out, most people plonked down at least 50-55 bucks for it. If they're going to be cheap, the price fans pay should reflect that. $30 or less! I'd be more than happy to spring for a new boxset for $70 if they would fix all the problems with the current set and add more uncut footage (and fullscreen all of the deleted footage - no damn half-screen side-by-side crap, I think we know the old versions well enough), more interviews, and like Fox did with the new Return of the Living Dead DVD, give us surround/stereo options for the mono tracks. They can do it. They gave Mommie Dearest a 5.1 and I don't think anyone was screaming for that.

If they slimline-cased - like they did for the 2-movies per disc set - all 8 movies individually, it wouldn't be that thick. Then, they'd have room on each disc to add new commentaries for the movies that don't have them, add new interviews and behind-the-scenes/uncut footage, and split the current features up over each disc, they wouldn't even need a 9th/5th bonus disc. Or they could make the 9th disc a flipper and put new bonuses on the B-side (along with the Best-Buy only Jason-Forever panel discussion / interview featurette).

maybrick
08-09-2008, 04:00 PM
Most fans say The New Blood is the worst victim of being cut.

And yet I find The New Blood to be probably the most entertaining film in the series. If there is blood and gore missing (which I don't doubt) I'm not missing it.

Vlachio
08-09-2008, 10:57 PM
I doubt these films will ever be released uncut. I'd perfectly settle for a nice blu-ray box set.

Myron Breck
08-09-2008, 11:46 PM
I bought them each the first time, then I sprung for the box set...NO MORE. Paramount has to give us what we want or I won't be giving them any more of my cash.

bigwes15
08-10-2008, 03:05 AM
I will always be the eternal sucker hoping that they will release at least some of the movies uncut on the set. We know that the footage for part 7 exists because the director has stated so several times that he has it and would love to remaster the movie, so that's one that could definitely be done. It appears that part 6's footage is there too, and we know that the first one is already out there uncut overseas (although there doesn't seem to be much difference between that one and the cut version). I would buy it for the uncut versions of these, but the ones I am really hankering for uncut versions of are Part 2 (my most wanted by far), and part 5.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-10-2008, 09:32 AM
And yet I find The New Blood to be probably the most entertaining film in the series.
I'm with you on that one.


If there is blood and gore missing (which I don't doubt) I'm not missing it.
You're not a Friday the 13th series fan, are you? It's well known within fan circles that the cut footage from The New Blood is incredibly gory. Especially the uncut versions of Ben and Russell's deaths. They have huge wounds and blood shoots like a guyser! Even I was noticably uncomfortable watching those. They're very much on par with Peter Jackson's and Lucio Fulci's kind of gore.

maybrick
08-10-2008, 03:25 PM
You're not a Friday the 13th series fan, are you?

Sure I am. Hardcore? Definitely not. I grew up with watching them so I like them more out of nostalgia than anything. In a way I'm kind of a purist. After 20 years of these films being cut I'm fine with them just as they are.

rxfiend
08-10-2008, 08:32 PM
I think Paramount should just release the workprints in their entirety as bonus features in the set. Other companies have done this. There's really no way for Paramount to clean up the workprint to seven, especially if it's VHS (I'm sorry, but shit in = shit out, you can't clean up generated VHS). Part 6 may be a different story, as I'm not sure what the elements are of the uncut clips. Uncut versions are a pipe dream and the sooner F13 fans realize this, the better they'll sleep at night. :p

Paul0889
08-10-2008, 09:41 PM
all i want is the 3D version of the 3rd film. MAKE IT HAPPEN PARAMOUNT!

Rockmjd
08-10-2008, 09:52 PM
The movies don't necessarily become better when they are uncut, but the director's original vision should always be preferred over MPAA interference.

Zombie Dude
08-11-2008, 05:22 AM
I'm pretty sure video footage can be cleaned up pretty good. Wasn't that the case with From Beyond. All the cut footage was from VHS, or that's how I understood it anyway.

rxfiend
08-11-2008, 05:40 AM
the From Beyond footage was film elements.

Zombie Dude
08-11-2008, 05:55 AM
the From Beyond footage was film elements.

Well supposedly Paramount has cut footage from the Friday films locked away in there vaults. Maybe they'll pull some strings and retrieve it.

rxfiend
08-11-2008, 06:05 AM
That's just fan speculation.

Zombie Dude
08-11-2008, 06:22 AM
That's just fan speculation.

Doesn't mean it can't be true.

rxfiend
08-11-2008, 07:26 AM
I'm just being realistic about the whole "uncut" situation. I think most fans are kidding themselves thinking Paramount actually kept trimmings of some run of the mill slasher films from the 80s. Sure the footage could exist, but I bet it'd be with the directors or some one involved directly with the film, not Paramount. The directors of 6 & 7 are the ones who had the uncut footage that appears on the current box set. I wouldn't get your hopes up in regards to any of the films being uncut, except the original (but even then, this is Paramount).

Zombie Dude
08-11-2008, 07:57 AM
I'm just being realistic about the whole "uncut" situation. I think most fans are kidding themselves thinking Paramount actually kept trimmings of some run of the mill slasher films from the 80s. Sure the footage could exist, but I bet it'd be with the directors or some one involved directly with the film, not Paramount. The directors of 6 & 7 are the ones who had the uncut footage that appears on the current box set. I wouldn't get your hopes up in regards to any of the films being uncut, except the original (but even then, this is Paramount).

Well I'd at least want new transfers and one film to a disc.

Matt89
08-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Well I'd at least want new transfers and one film to a disc.

What was wrong with the transfers? All the Friday movies look beautiful on DVD. (Part 4 is probably the worst, but I don't think there's much more they could do with Part 4. You can only do so much with some films.) Friday the 13th movies, actually are some of the best-looking upconverted DVDs I own. They look fantastic upconverted. The only thing that'll get me to replace my boxset (which was really generous on Paramount's behalf, IMO) is if they relrease it on blu-ray. That would be pretty sweet.

But a lot of you guys on here need to understand..NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT FRIDAY THE 13TH!! I don't hate the movies, I'm just being realistic. They're bad films, and I don't blame Paramount for having some sort of shame towards them. Yes, I know they made the studio millions of dollars :rolleyes:....BUT THAT'S THE SOLE REASON THEY WERE MADE! (all the countless sequels anyway) THey were only made to cash-in on the success of Halloween.

A lot of you guys just want more and more and more. Paramount gave us a PRETTY FUCKIN' GOOD boxset back in 2004. Pretty fuckin' generous on their behalf, especially considering it was a Friday the 13th boxset. But for some reason that's still not good enough. Maybe the source material DOESN'T exist! (Although I'll admit it was a tad lazy of them not to restore the original, since we all know the footage is out there.) But other than that, we got a real bang for our buck. Featurettes on every single film, theatrical trailers, FANTASTIC image quality, behind the scenes looks, interviews, commentaries...shit.

What do I want from Paramount? Blu rays of Sunset Boulevard, Rosemary's Baby, A Place in the Sun, a Special Edition of Hud...oh and where the hell is the DVD of Love With the Proper Stranger with Natalie Wood and Steve McQueen?? I'm SHOCKED they haven't released that. Considering Friday the 13th right now has more speecial features than films like Ordinary People, Three Days of the Condor, Hud, Rosemary's Baby...stop complaining. Paramount was fucking generous with Friday the 13th. They gave them a HELL of a lot more than the films deserved.

If they just repacakged it for blu-ray and released it in high-def, that would be good enough for me. 2 movies to a disc, with all the features pretaining to each film on those discs, it could be a 4-disc set. Simple.

~Matt

MrKateB
08-11-2008, 05:55 PM
Maybe they're all waiting for that super special edition where you can create your own ending, making any character from any film the killer. AND, have a special feature where a totally nude Betsy Palmer narrates the entire saga, from the beginning of part 1 through the end of Space Jason (or whatever the most recent one is).

:)

I dunno...to a less harsh extent, I have to agree with Matt89

Shannafey
08-11-2008, 06:11 PM
Though I would love to have the definitive boxed set with uncut versions, 3 in 3D and a buttload of extras, I think they should have done this in the first place and never released the set they did. Especially if they had plans to make a better boxed set in the future. I know it is all about the money, but like most of these re-releases, I am really sick of it. Even though I would love the definitive set, I feel like I should get a trade in offer on the old box set. I know it isn't going to happen, but I am tired of giving money to studios for inferior products only to have the real deal released later on! That is why I rip and burn a lot of DVDs nowadays instead of buying. Especially when I have a feeling a better release is around the corner.

maskull
08-11-2008, 07:16 PM
I like the boxset I have. They'd really have to add something spectacular for me to buy another one. I'm curious to see the uncut versions, but even then I'm not sure I'd buy this set again. Like others, I'm used to the cut versions of the movies and enjoy them the way they are.

...actually same thing goes for My Bloody Valentine. I'd love to see the uncut version, but knowing that the movie is cut has not taken away from my enjoyment of the version that's available now.

Livingdead102
08-11-2008, 08:53 PM
I don't think there's much of anything that could get me to buy another F13 box set. The one I have is perfectly adequate for my needs. I don't even think uncut versions of the films would get me to rebuy the whole thing.

vampyr789
08-11-2008, 09:11 PM
Well, i love the whole series, Except for the god awful jason goes to hell and Jason X.

here's what i hope for:

-I really want them all UNCUT especially 1,2,4, and 7 that would be awesome

-Dolby Digital 5.1, 2.0 Surround, and 2.0 Mono for ever disc

-Audio commentaries for every disc,

-Each film in their own cases (unlike that 2 films per disc crap)

-Part 3 in 3D

-Have all of the special features from the previous set

-An on location tour would be cool

-The documentary that they are filming (i think from the same people who made the Halloween 25 years of terror)

-"Jason Forever" from the Best Buy bonus disc.

The Chaostar
08-11-2008, 09:32 PM
Well, i love the whole series, Except for the god awful jason goes to hell and Jason X.

here's what i hope for:

-I really want them all UNCUT especially 1,2,4, and 7 that would be awesome

-Dolby Digital 5.1, 2.0 Surround, and 2.0 Mono for ever disc

-Audio commentaries for every disc,

-Each film in their own cases (unlike that 2 films per disc crap)

-Part 3 in 3D

-Have all of the special features from the previous set

-The documentary that they are filming (i think from the same people who made the Halloween 25 years of terror)

-"Jason Lives" from the Best Buy bonus disc.

that would be the set for me!!! :D

It is impossible to have an uncut version of Part 7. All the elements were destroyed - what survives is a VHS workprint that looks like shit.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-11-2008, 11:01 PM
What was wrong with the transfers? All the Friday movies look beautiful on DVD. (Part 4 is probably the worst, but I don't think there's much more they could do with Part 4. You can only do so much with some films.) Friday the 13th movies, actually are some of the best-looking upconverted DVDs I own. They look fantastic upconverted.
Well, my 2 big problems are - 1: the audio is mono and even if a 5.1 track for each film would only change the sound a little, I'd prefer that little bit extra to Paramount just releasing the same discs with mono tracks 6, 7, 8 times. Plus, the audio to part 3 has moments where it sounds awful. The scene where Shelly is walking up to the barn, I heard distortion and it bothered me.

2: light switching. During the scene in Part 2 where Jeff and Sandra are walking through the woods, there's a shot through the trees where suddenly the entire picture gets much lighter or darker (can't remember watch), like someone turning on/off a lightswitch. I'll go through it and mark the exact time during the movie that that happens later today (though I can't be back online until tomorrow). Same thing happens in The Final Chapter - twice. And neither is during the scene where a character actually turns off the light. The first is during the scene where Tina is yanked through the window. The second is when Trish is whacking Jason in the face with a hammer. Those should be fixed. As should the scene with Doug in the shower where the light switch sound is heard but the room stays lit. Also there's a problem on the part 1 disc where characters are moving at normal film speed, then suddenly they start to slow down digitally and it's incredibly distracting. The first is when Crazy Ralph gets on his bike and rides away in the beginning. The second is during Marcie's death scene. The third is when Bill and Alice enter Jack's cabin looking for him and Marcie.



But a lot of you guys on here need to understand..NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT FRIDAY THE 13TH!!

A lot of you guys just want more and more and more.
Well, now you know why - WE give a shit.



Paramount gave us a PRETTY FUCKIN' GOOD boxset back in 2004. Pretty fuckin' generous on their behalf, especially considering it was a Friday the 13th boxset.
Well, except for the fact that the stereo and surround tracks for Jason Lives, The New Blood, and Jason Takes Manhattan were pretty good, and the uncut footage from The New Blood, I was 95% disappointed with the boxset. I want a new one.



But for some reason that's still not good enough. Maybe the source material DOESN'T exist! (Although I'll admit it was a tad lazy of them not to restore the original, since we all know the footage is out there.) But other than that, we got a real bang for our buck. Featurettes on every single film
Except A New Beginning. And interviews with... what? 5 cast members from parts IV through VIII? Face it pal, they didn't do enough work. There's still a TON more they could have done. You don't seem to agree.



behind the scenes looks, commentaries...
4 audio commentaries for 8 films... No behind the scenes footage to speak of, just, what, 14 minutes of deleted stuff for 8 feature-length films! No photo galleries. No bloopers. No nothing but new interviews with a mere handful of people for 8 feature length films.


...stop complaining. Paramount was fucking generous with Friday the 13th. They gave them a HELL of a lot more than the films deserved.
I disagree. This series has a lot of fans and in my opinion, what the hell's so great about the Star Trek film series? Those movies put me to sleep.

dwatts
08-11-2008, 11:23 PM
It is impossible to have an uncut version of Part 7. All the elements were destroyed - what survives is a VHS workprint that looks like shit.

They should release it uncut, with the VHS workprint segments cut in. Then we can all bitch and moan about how the quality drops, and Paramount should have done better. --LOL--

I didn't buy the last box because it offered nothing significant.

With the exception of the first, these aren't good films. They're just not. The story, most of the execution, the acting. It's all awful.

However, they're fun. A LOT of fun. I get a kick out of them, even though I know they're not good. It's just one of those things. A few months ago I watched them all over a few nights, one after the other. It's just a good time. Not good cinema, but hey, you can't have it all.

In R2 we've had the uncut of the first film for a long time..... and you know what, it's all so minimal it doesn't alter my enjoyment even a little bit.

KR~!
08-12-2008, 12:21 AM
Part 1 is a classic. I really liked part 2, the last one that actually tried to be scary, it turned into campy fun after that. Part 3 had a death count on screen (if you pay attention) and it was in super cheesy 3D complete with crappy and cheap 3D effects. Part 4 had a cool beginning and ending... the middle aka most of it sucked. Part 5 was the "Halloween 3" of the series, completely pointless. Part 6 was horror comedy and part 7 was almost a comic book movie. Part 8 was a piece of shit and should have never been made.

spawningblue
08-12-2008, 02:20 AM
I don't understand people getting mad because we want a better boxset of one of the biggest horror franchises out there. We get it, you don't like the movies, but its obvious there is a huge fan base out there. Every year tons of toys, shirts, comic books, ect. get released, and now they are revamping the franchise. Whether you like the films or not, who cares, because a LOT of people do! And it's great you think that the boxset got more then it deserved but I disagree. There are way worse movies that get better special editions and released multiple times, so why not re-release these films again with the extras that are out there. Maybe getting uncut versions of these films is a dream (Well the first one isn't!), but at least include all the deaths in the deleted scenes section, not just a few of them. Also, a more thorough documentary would be nice!

PS Why are you even on a horror site if you don't think horror movies shouldn't get special editions. They may not be masterpieces like Casablanca or Citizen's Kane, but who cares!? Why do they have to be Oscar masterpieces to get lots of special features. They have a large fan base, which means they will make money, and that's all that matters. Sorry but they probably sell a lot more then a lot of Oscar winning movies.

Anyways, it looks like a LOT is being planned for this release, so lets hope for the best! Please Paramount, release all the deleted scenes, separately if you have to! Just make sure they are on there, even if they are VHS quality.

No word on any of the features yet, but we do know that there is a lot being planned. Of course the goal is to have it done in time for the remake’s release on February 13th, 2009, but only time will tell if that mark is hit.

http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/exclusive-paramount-planning-new-friday-13th-box-set

Matt89
08-12-2008, 05:29 AM
Well, my 2 big problems are - 1: the audio is mono and even if a 5.1 track for each film would only change the sound a little, I'd prefer that little bit extra to Paramount just releasing the same discs with mono tracks 6, 7, 8 times. Plus, the audio to part 3 has moments where it sounds awful. The scene where Shelly is walking up to the barn, I heard distortion and it bothered me.

2: light switching. During the scene in Part 2 where Jeff and Sandra are walking through the woods, there's a shot through the trees where suddenly the entire picture gets much lighter or darker (can't remember watch), like someone turning on/off a lightswitch. I'll go through it and mark the exact time during the movie that that happens later today (though I can't be back online until tomorrow). Same thing happens in The Final Chapter - twice. And neither is during the scene where a character actually turns off the light. The first is during the scene where Tina is yanked through the window. The second is when Trish is whacking Jason in the face with a hammer. Those should be fixed. As should the scene with Doug in the shower where the light switch sound is heard but the room stays lit. Also there's a problem on the part 1 disc where characters are moving at normal film speed, then suddenly they start to slow down digitally and it's incredibly distracting. The first is when Crazy Ralph gets on his bike and rides away in the beginning. The second is during Marcie's death scene. The third is when Bill and Alice enter Jack's cabin looking for him and Marcie.

Well the audio distortion is probably a fault of the original source material. Same with the light/dark fluctuation. Remember these were low-budget films, and probably didn't have very good lighting to begin with. Amateurs made these films. Well, be happy they included the original audio tracks by it being in mono. Had they remastered it in 5.1 I'm sure someone would complain about "there being no original mono soundtrack". :rolleyes: But, I know what you mean by the slow-ness. I'll admit Paramount chaped out on making it 2 films to a disc. (That could be what caused it.) They should never have done that. Not on a DVD anyway.

Well, now you know why - WE give a shit.

Ok, some people here might give a shit but you don't make up a vast majority. (Not as much as you think you do.) There are much larger fanbases for other films out there. (Superman films, Alien films, STAR WARS films, and to use one of your examples: Star Trek. MASSIVE fanbase.)

Well, except for the fact that the stereo and surround tracks for Jason Lives, The New Blood, and Jason Takes Manhattan were pretty good, and the uncut footage from The New Blood, I was 95% disappointed with the boxset. I want a new one.

You want a new one? That's nice. Go talk to Paramount. I think you weren't happy with the boxset because you had (and still do have, apparently) your expectations set way too high for movies like these.

Except A New Beginning. And interviews with... what? 5 cast members from parts IV through VIII? Face it pal, they didn't do enough work. There's still a TON more they could have done. You don't seem to agree.

A ton more? Like what!? Why do you think there's so much to talk about with these movies!? Maybe the interviews were short because the people who worked on the films didn't have much to say! They probably didn't remember much because these films didn't mean much to them. No I don't agree. They DID do enough work. More than the movies deserve, anyway. Maybe they only got ahold of so few actors for interviews because they probably didn't have much to say about the films. Probably didn't remember much because a lot of the actors in the films really weren't "actors". They were just looking for easy money. They just grabbed people at random. They had fucking NEWSPAPER ads looking for people. I remember hearing about that in one of the interviews. Not much to talk about there. Applied for a job and got it.

4 audio commentaries for 8 films... No behind the scenes footage to speak of, just, what, 14 minutes of deleted stuff for 8 feature-length films! No photo galleries. No bloopers. No nothing but new interviews with a mere handful of people for 8 feature length films.

Again, what makes you think there ARE all these things? What makes you think the deleted footage for all these movies still exists? When you only have deleted footage for parts 1, 6 and 7...that's a pretty tell-tale sign that footage no longer exists for these movies. (Because it's definitely NOT in the Paramount vaults, that's for damn sure.) And considering they got ahold of the directors for many of the films, they would've offered up the deleted footage. It probably doesn't exist anymore. It's a sad truth, but it has to be told. No behind the scenes footage? Savini explains how they did some stunts in the films. That's pretty "behind the scenes". What you're thinking of is on-set footage. Keep dreaming, dude. I'd be shocked beyond belief if footage like that existed. If you really want more interesting facts and interviews, go out and buy Crystal Lake Memories. Read a goddamn book.

I disagree. This series has a lot of fans and in my opinion, what the hell's so great about the Star Trek film series? Those movies put me to sleep.

What's so great? I have no idea either. Can't stand 'em. The reason they got such good treatment is because it has a MUCH greater (MUCH MUCH greater) fanbase than Friday the 13th. Sure it has a LOT of fans, but it pales in comparison to other franchises out there. Really.

PS Why are you even on a horror site if you don't think horror movies shouldn't get special editions. They may not be masterpieces like Casablanca or Citizen's Kane, but who cares!? Why do they have to be Oscar masterpieces to get lots of special features. They have a large fan base, which means they will make money, and that's all that matters. Sorry but they probably sell a lot more then a lot of Oscar winning movies.

I'm on a horror site because I have an interest in horror movies. And where exactly did I say horror movies shouldn't be getting special editions? If you gathered that from what I wrote then maybe you should go back and re-read it. They don't have to be Oscar masterpieces to get special editions. (And it's CITIZEN Kane. But, I'm glad you acknowledge that and Casablanca as being masterpieces.)

But back to Friday the 13th. It's just that a lot of you get delusional about how these movies "deserve better treatment"...no...no they do not. You have to understand the circumstances. The Friday the 13th series are a bunch of B-movie slasher films owned by a major studio. Don't expect much. They don't sub-license them because they can STILL make Paramount money. The reason they don't put a massive amount of effort into them is because of dimishing returns. It's all about economics. If they spend TONS on remastering them and working on all these special features, they'd have to market the boxset for a very high price because they know that they won't gain much profit from them. They'll lose out on money.

And what kind of stupidness is that? Friday the 13th movies sell more than Oscar-winning films? Yeah okay buddy. No need to be sorry, you're completely wrong. Keep thinking that. So you're telling me a special edition of Friday the 13th would sell more money than special editions of Oscar winners like West Side Story, Gone With the Wind, The Deer Hunter, Kramer vs. Kramer, The Godfather, An American in Paris, Schindler's List, Unforgiven, Titanic, Platoon, Ben-Hur, My Fair Lady, The Apartment, All About Eve, Casablanca, From Here to Eternity, On the Waterfront...get real. Stop being delusional.

And really, most people who enjoy Friday the 13th movies are just casual fans. People who enjoy a good popcorn b-movie flick every now and then. They don't really care about interviews and documentaries. I know one guy at my work who LOVES Friday the 13th movies. (He knows TONS of stuff about them.) I asked him if he owned the boxset and he said, "Nah, I just catch them on TV every now and then. Have a few on VHS, but I don't care about all those extra things."

And again, it's not that I hate Friday the 13th movies, I'm just being realistic. I applaud studios like Code Red for the way they treat the films they release. But look at them. They're still a little indie movie company. They're proof that these types of films really don't make back much money.

Why is it that you just can't please everyone? :D

~Matt

dwatts
08-12-2008, 07:37 AM
Behind the Scenes material for these films is truly worthless to me now. There are two wonderful books out on the series - packed with more information and stills than you'll ever get on a DVD. There's simply nothing more to say about these films - everyone was interviewed for those books. If you don't like reading very much then you probably shouldn't be writing so much. :D

Zombie Dude
08-12-2008, 07:38 AM
Well, my 2 big problems are - 1: the audio is mono and even if a 5.1 track for each film would only change the sound a little, I'd prefer that little bit extra to Paramount just releasing the same discs with mono tracks 6, 7, 8 times. Plus, the audio to part 3 has moments where it sounds awful. The scene where Shelly is walking up to the barn, I heard distortion and it bothered me.

2: light switching. During the scene in Part 2 where Jeff and Sandra are walking through the woods, there's a shot through the trees where suddenly the entire picture gets much lighter or darker (can't remember watch), like someone turning on/off a lightswitch. I'll go through it and mark the exact time during the movie that that happens later today (though I can't be back online until tomorrow). Same thing happens in The Final Chapter - twice. And neither is during the scene where a character actually turns off the light. The first is during the scene where Tina is yanked through the window. The second is when Trish is whacking Jason in the face with a hammer. Those should be fixed. As should the scene with Doug in the shower where the light switch sound is heard but the room stays lit. Also there's a problem on the part 1 disc where characters are moving at normal film speed, then suddenly they start to slow down digitally and it's incredibly distracting. The first is when Crazy Ralph gets on his bike and rides away in the beginning. The second is during Marcie's death scene. The third is when Bill and Alice enter Jack's cabin looking for him and Marcie.




Well, now you know why - WE give a shit.




Well, except for the fact that the stereo and surround tracks for Jason Lives, The New Blood, and Jason Takes Manhattan were pretty good, and the uncut footage from The New Blood, I was 95% disappointed with the boxset. I want a new one.




Except A New Beginning. And interviews with... what? 5 cast members from parts IV through VIII? Face it pal, they didn't do enough work. There's still a TON more they could have done. You don't seem to agree.




4 audio commentaries for 8 films... No behind the scenes footage to speak of, just, what, 14 minutes of deleted stuff for 8 feature-length films! No photo galleries. No bloopers. No nothing but new interviews with a mere handful of people for 8 feature length films.



I disagree. This series has a lot of fans and in my opinion, what the hell's so great about the Star Trek film series? Those movies put me to sleep.
That seems to sum it up rather well. I didn't even buy the last box set because not many people seemed to be happy with it and it looked rather awful. Maybe WB will get involved with this new set too. That'd be good.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-12-2008, 11:55 AM
I don't understand people getting mad because we want a better boxset of one of the biggest horror franchises out there. We get it, you don't like the movies, but its obvious there is a huge fan base out there. Every year tons of toys, shirts, comic books, ect. get released
Exactly. Has Matt ever seen all the pictures and videos and YouTube stuff of all the fans. I mean, on that Anchor Bay DVD for the Halloween franchise documentary, two parts are dedicated to showing people how many fans of those movies there are, their collections, and how much other stuff they're involved in and it's unbelievably extensive. I'm willing to bet there are just as many if not more people that have the same thing going on with the Friday the 13th series.



Well the audio distortion is probably a fault of the original source material. Same with the light/dark fluctuation.
Well, see about the light/dark thing - the VHS didn't have these problems. I know, I've watched it at least 8 times. It's well known that in the shower scene, when the character flips the light switch off, the light is supposed to dim. It's what lights do when they are turned off.

In fact, why don't you know this? You're talking to Friday the 13th series fans on a topic about these movies. You've seen the movies - right? On the VHS, the guy is taking a shower in a light-filled room, then Jason shuts off the light and the room becomes dark. On the DVD, nothing happens. We hear a sound and that's it. On the VHS, there is no "fluctuation" like you say. I'm talking about the light in the entire frame changing as though someone was turning a big light either on or off. Yet, this is not the way it is on the VHS.

Again, you don't know this?



Well, be happy they included the original audio tracks by it being in mono. Had they remastered it in 5.1 I'm sure someone would complain about "there being no original mono soundtrack".
Well, here's the thing - Paramount remastered several movies for 5.1 that weren't originally 5.1. They did it with Fatal Attraction and Mommie Dearest, yet where's the crying need for it? Mommie Dearest is not the kind of movie where most of the fanbase are tech junkies anyway. How many people are going to take the disc and run to their player and marvel at all the 3rd, 4th, and 5th speaker sounds coming out... Or did they just do it to see if they could do it? Because a 5.1 brings out more clarity in all the sounds / audio elements...

But anyway, I don't care about the mono tracks. And don't tell me what to do. It's ruuuuuude. :D



Ok, some people here might give a shit but you don't make up a vast majority. (Not as much as you think you do.) There are much larger fanbases for other films out there. (Superman films, Alien films, STAR WARS films, and to use one of your examples: Star Trek. MASSIVE fanbase.)
Okay, I think maybe you should crawl out of your hole and check out just how many Friday the 13th series fans there are. Is this your first time encountering objections with that viewpoint of yours?



You want a new one? That's nice. Go talk to Paramount. I think you weren't happy with the boxset because you had (and still do have, apparently) your expectations set way too high for movies like these.
Sure. Because I'm part of this series' MASSIVE FANBASE. I think the fans deserve better. It's clear to me, at least right now, that you think better of fans of... any other movie series than this one. As long as it gets Majority-exposure.



A ton more? Like what!? Why do you think there's so much to talk about with these movies!? Maybe the interviews were short because the people who worked on the films didn't have much to say! They probably didn't remember much because these films didn't mean much to them. No I don't agree. They DID do enough work. More than the movies deserve, anyway. Maybe they only got ahold of so few actors for interviews because they probably didn't have much to say about the films.
You know something? If you don't want to hear what I have to say, you can take a walk. Get it? Cut the shit. Every breath you're making here is filled with disdain for these movies. We get it. You don't care. So, shut up or have a little damn respect for some people. You're not giving anyone any "Wake Up Calls" here or telling people things they don't already know or haven't heard.

dwatts
08-12-2008, 12:31 PM
Hm, I've been here before. :D

Grim
08-12-2008, 12:58 PM
Behind the Scenes material for these films is truly worthless to me now. There are two wonderful books out on the series - packed with more information and stills than you'll ever get on a DVD. There's simply nothing more to say about these films - everyone was interviewed for those books. If you don't like reading very much then you probably shouldn't be writing so much. :D

Yeah, Crystal lake Memories has basically everything I'd want to know about the series. Why people need that information in a disc format is beyond me. And then there's such trivial demands from fans such as "each film on it's own disc!" I don't see how that will change anything except raise production costs for Paramount and thus probably jack up the price of the box set itself. At this point the only thing that will make me double dip is high def transfers or uncut versions which are very unlikely at this point. I could care less about having the original box art for each release because when all is said and done, that doesn't effect the film at all.

I understand the fans wanting the best release possible for these films, as I'm a fan too, but at the same time I have never seen a more demanding fan base who just assumes all of this behind the scenes stuff exists. Ugh, DVD has made us spoiled. Just give me the films themselves in the best format available and I'm happy. Fuck it, put two on a disc again for all I care, that will take up less room on my shelf anyway.

Mattapooh
08-12-2008, 12:59 PM
Fan of the series, have the current box set, don't expect much of the new one.

To me, this is kind of like the King Kong spider pit sequence. If they found a print of it and threw it on a current DVD, I'd be stoked, but it not being there doesn't take away my enjoyment of the movie. The discs that are out now have beautiful transfers of the versions I grew up with, so I think it's a bit ridiculous to expect that much more.

The only things I felt the original box did wrong was not having a commentary for each movie and keeping the uncut gore comparisons in a tiny box rather than full screening it, but it's nothing I'm livid about. I'm actually more bummed out by the lack of the original CLASSIC artwork, which I've always loved.

I'm perfectly happy with what's out now.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-12-2008, 03:13 PM
Fan of the series, have the current box set, don't expect much of the new one.
Unfortunately, I feel the same way. I waited 2 years to buy the '04 boxset just because I wanted the movies. The bonus features left me very cold, except for the trailers, the commentaries for parts VI and III, and the all-too short featurettes for the first, fourth, and sixth movies.

Most of the people in the interviews looked either tired or bored. That to me just screams that they did these interviews on the run and weren't encouraged to say very much about the movies. That may have given some people here the impression that they don't feel like talking about the movies or that they don't care about the movies/fans very much. Not sure this is the best barometer to judge their enthusiasm on...



Hm, I've been here before. :D
Yeah but I don't feel I'm sucking up if I tell you you were a lot more respectful of what I thought and were a lot more fair in discussing things with me. This guy is really going out on a limb to almost attack fans of the series. And I see I'm not the only one who took what he said the wrong way.

KR~!
08-12-2008, 05:28 PM
Yeah, Crystal lake Memories has basically everything I'd want to know about the series. Why people need that information in a disc format is beyond me. And then there's such trivial demands from fans such as "each film on it's own disc!" I don't see how that will change anything except raise production costs for Paramount and thus probably jack up the price of the box set itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_compression

Mattapooh
08-12-2008, 07:32 PM
Uh.... the discs in the box are all dual-layer, meaning that each disc is the equivalent of two. For 90 minute (on average) movies, that's perfectly fine. As already stated by myself and a few others, the existing transfers are far from a problem.

Katatonia
08-12-2008, 07:59 PM
Uh.... the discs in the box are all dual-layer, meaning that each disc is the equivalent of two. For 90 minute (on average) movies, that's perfectly fine. As already stated by myself and a few others, the existing transfers are far from a problem.

Nope Matt, dual-layer discs don't quite hold as much as two single-layered (or a flipper) DVD discs would for technical reasons. This has something to do with how the laser head orients and aligns itself to read the second layer.

A single-layer disc holds 4.7 gigabytes. A dual-layer disc only holds a maximum of 8.54 gigabytes. So it's not nearly 9.40 gigabytes.

Mattapooh
08-12-2008, 08:19 PM
Ah, but check out the space used on a single-layer disc by a movie of that length. For example, Demons 2 is something I recently backed up and that was only using about 3.6 gigs of a single-layer disc. This was the newer anamorphic disc put out by Anchor Bay, by the way.

Anyways, we're not talking about a huge difference either way and I have absolutely no problem with the current transfers. If we're talking about the extras being a bit lacking, I can at least understand that, but transfers? I don't see the issue.

Katatonia
08-12-2008, 08:30 PM
Ah, but check out the space used on a single-layer disc by a movie of that length. For example, Demons 2 is something I recently backed up and that was only using about 3.6 gigs of a single-layer disc. This was the newer anamorphic disc put out by Anchor Bay, by the way.

That's often how it is with DVD companies for some reason...they rarely maximize the bitrates. You can easily max out a disc to the limit of a single-layer with any good DVD software program.

The old single Friday DVD's do utilize more disc space than the discs in the box set. But, it's so little that most people won't even notice or care.

Matt89
08-12-2008, 09:22 PM
Okay, I think maybe you should crawl out of your hole and check out just how many Friday the 13th series fans there are. Is this your first time encountering objections with that viewpoint of yours?

Sure. Because I'm part of this series' MASSIVE FANBASE. I think the fans deserve better. It's clear to me, at least right now, that you think better of fans of... any other movie series than this one. As long as it gets Majority-exposure.

You know something? If you don't want to hear what I have to say, you can take a walk. Get it? Cut the shit. Every breath you're making here is filled with disdain for these movies. We get it. You don't care. So, shut up or have a little damn respect for some people. You're not giving anyone any "Wake Up Calls" here or telling people things they don't already know or haven't heard.

This has nothing to do with me thinking better of series' that have more of a fanbase, it has to do with the reality that major studios will dish out more money working on better treatment of films that have a larger fanbase. That's all. Like I said, it's all about economics and how much profit a studio will make based on what they spent producing the special edition DVDs.

Crawl out of MY hole? Yet I'M the one looking at this situation from a realistic perspective? Yeah ok I'll crawl out of my hole...right after you crawl out of yours. :D

And I'm not attacking fans of the series. I'm a fan too. I love Friday the 13th movies, I think they're a lot of fun, but I can admit that the movies are terrible, put together with almost no effort and evoke only very marginal talent. (Mainly Savini). I'm just being realistic about the whole thing. They really don't deserve more than what Paramount gave us back in 2004. If I'm not giving any "wake-up calls" then maybe you should start believing in the reality of the situation.

It just seems that you get delusional thinking these movies are so much more than they really are and how they deserve much better. You have to understand that a studio is only looking for profit. And really...can you blame them? They don't want to put out something that could potentially lose them a lot of money.

But hell, who knows? Maybe they WILL put out a stellar boxset. (Considering what they just did for the Indiana Jones series, Paramount going all out on Friday the 13th is HIGHLY unlikely.) But if they did, that would be fucking fantastic. I'd be overjoyed, but I like to keep things in a realistic perspective. Keeps me from being disappointed.

I don't mean to offend people, I'm just trying to make a point. Yeah I know I can be blunt and rude (and I apologize), but that's my way of arguing. Many of you don't seem to be getting the point and it's frustrating.

~Matt

rxfiend
08-12-2008, 10:13 PM
here's some details on the new boxset, which only includes films 1 - 3!
http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/exclusive-early-friday-boxset-details/

maybrick
08-12-2008, 10:45 PM
here's some details on the new boxset, which only includes films 1 - 3!
http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/exclusive-early-friday-boxset-details/

Now, as I said before, I'm not a fanatic when it comes to F13, but that blogger is dead wrong about it being the best way to go. The BEST way to go is to make the box set Parts 1-4, that way completing the storyline (such as it was). Fill those with extras and if they sell well, release a second set devoted to 5-8, but only doing the first 3 is idiotic.

Grim
08-12-2008, 11:01 PM
I'm about 70% sure I'll pass on this after that little tidbit of news. A bit of the new extras will probably be promo stuff for the new one and like I already mentioned, I've read Crystal Lake Memories cover to cover and have the vast resources of a bagillion Friday the 13th fansites, so the extras will probably just be retreads of shit I already know. Then with them not being blu-ray, that's another nail in the coffin. The only thing that could possibly get me to buy these is the possibility of uncut versions, which seems very unlikely. It'll probably be pretty reasonably priced so it might be a smart buy for those that haven't bought any of the flicks yet or those who only like the first three. I do find it odd that they're leaving out The Final Chapter, though. That's a pretty important flick in the series.

dwatts
08-12-2008, 11:10 PM
Wait. Hang on.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

After all this fuss, that's it? And no Blu-Ray?! What they waiting for, the PS4? :D

Come on people, have a sense of humor. This is nothing more than a tie-in for the new movie. It's already looking to be a bit of a joke. New extras? Buy a book.

maybrick
08-12-2008, 11:13 PM
I just received word that the new box set will have the "I Love the 80s" logo sprawled across the cover! :fuck:

dwatts
08-12-2008, 11:16 PM
Even better. :lol:

This could only be improved if the new release were only available from iTunes.

KR~!
08-13-2008, 12:06 AM
Paramount strikes again!

The reason why this "box set" only includes part 1 to 3 is because the new movie takes elements from parts 1 to 3 only, so like I posted before, I am just going to take a wild guess and say that all the new extras will be about the new film only.

fceurich39
08-13-2008, 12:26 AM
i kinda doubt that it will be just the first 3 films i am sure it will be all eight films not just parts 1-3 that is just really stupid

rxfiend
08-13-2008, 02:20 AM
Why do you doubt it? KR makes an excellent point, and this is Paramount we are talking about. Makes perfect sense to me.

Matt89
08-13-2008, 02:53 AM
New extras? Buy a book.

THANK YOU.

If you're too lazy to pick up a book and read, you don't deserve new extras.

~Matt

Matt89
08-13-2008, 02:56 AM
Matt, there's no use trying to convince some. You're just going have to let them live and learn, then come next Feb, they'll bitch and moan about something we all already knew to begin with.

Yeah really eh? :rolleyes:

~Matt

fceurich39
08-13-2008, 03:16 AM
Why do you doubt it? KR makes an excellent point, and this is Paramount we are talking about. Makes perfect sense to me.

yeah it is paramount and they were getting on my good side with alot of their older films being released by legend films and still thought that paramount releasing uncut versions of the friday films is 0% chance. but i just think it is way too early too assume what the box set will contain with the recent announcement a couple weeks ago seems like it would have all the films but of course that is just hype so it does seem odd they will release a box set containing just 3 films when they could just release a triple feature dvd hell they just released a double feature with F13TH 1 and 2 and then i love the 80's dvds of 1 and 2 and now they are releasing the first one again so hopefully it is wrong or atleast they will include the final chapter as well make the first 4 friday films i guess will wait and see when all the specs are officially announced

DVD-fanatic-9
08-13-2008, 10:16 PM
If this boxset only includes the first 3 movies, I'm going to find the people responsible for this, and...

Seriously, they have some fucking nerve to even allow news like this to be leaked to us. After the 6 re-releases of the same fucking discs of the first 2 movies already...

Matt89
08-13-2008, 10:37 PM
SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!

Oh man...Paramount. They never fail. :D

~Matt

DVD-fanatic-9
08-13-2008, 11:04 PM
Looks like we won't be able to argue anymore. The only alternative to the lackluster set out now will be your precious book.

Mattapooh
08-13-2008, 11:14 PM
Looks like we won't be able to argue anymore. The only alternative to the lackluster set out now will be your precious book.

Uhh... getting a bit ridiculous, are we guys?

Seriously, we're talking about a bunch of cheesy 80s horror movies being put out on DVD here.... this isn't the sort of thing I'd be taking personally.

dwatts
08-13-2008, 11:36 PM
Well, the jibe about the "precious book" is rather silly. If you can't be bothered to read about the films, then I guess they're not so important after all. So why pretend otherwise? There's nothing "precious" about the book, or anyones attitude to it - it was simply a statement of fact, if you want to know about these films no DVD extras will approach what's in the books. Maybe that's too much for those people who want their precious DVD's to be more than they are. :rolleyes:

In fact, someone moaning and whining about the lack of extras on a DVD because the films are apparently so worthy, who hasn't even bothered to buy the book, sounds to me like ... well someone who just likes to argue for laughs. I wonder if they bother to read subtitles....

KR~!
08-13-2008, 11:46 PM
It is a nice book, gosh darn it!
http://www.amazon.com/Crystal-Lake-Memories-Complete-History/dp/1845763432/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218667475&sr=8-1

dwatts
08-13-2008, 11:53 PM
In a pinch, maybe he can get someone to read it to him, that way it'll at least feel like a commentary or special feature. :lol:

rxfiend
08-14-2008, 12:07 AM
The book is a bible for the films.

maybrick
08-14-2008, 12:57 AM
"Literally?" :eek2:

Mattapooh
08-14-2008, 01:36 AM
"Literally?" :eek2:

Well, that brought the lolz.

Seriously, I can understand being bummed out if a DVD is a bit lackluster (even if you're a stickler who might be asking for something a bit ridiculous), but why on earth would you be taking shit personally and throwing insults around? It's not like we're talking about politics here.

If you're gonna get all butthurt over something like this, I think it's time to grow up and learn to be more objective about things.

vampyr789
08-14-2008, 01:38 AM
i have read the book, and it is fantastic. but (some) people these days are just too lazy to pick up a book.

i for one think the parts 1-3 is stupid on Paramount's part. They are making a bad mistake! I love the first 4. they should be in a box set UNCUT. then if sales go good Paramount could release part 5-8. there ya go!

But paramount sucks anyway. if they don't care about the series (to keep putting lackluster DVDs) then sell the rights to a different company that will give us what we want!

P.S. paramount sucks also b/c they wont release My Bloody Valentine uncut, April Fool's Day with the alternate ending, and Four Flies on grey velvet

dwatts
08-14-2008, 02:36 AM
Well, let's face it, there is an element in our society that gave up reading once they stopped putting chapter inserts into DVD cases. :lol:

Matt89
08-14-2008, 02:43 AM
But paramount sucks anyway. if they don't care about the series (to keep putting lackluster DVDs) then sell the rights to a different company that will give us what we want!

P.S. paramount sucks also b/c they wont release My Bloody Valentine uncut, April Fool's Day with the alternate ending, and Four Flies on grey velvet

Well I wouldn't say they suck because of the lackluster releases of TWO cheesy '80s horror movies. DIMINISHING RETURNS TO SALE :D

But I will admit though, that putting out parts 1-3 is really really stupid. I mean...don't parts 2-4 take place within the same weekend anyway? Stupid. But just what you'd expect from Paramount with Friday the 13th.

And yes, go out and buy the book, people. Trust me, after you read it you won't give a shit about the lack of interviews and/or commentaries/behind the scenes stuff. Really. It's QUITE in-depth.

~Matt

Matt89
08-14-2008, 02:45 AM
Well, let's face it, there is an element in our society that gave up reading once they stopped putting chapter inserts into DVD cases. :lol:

LMAO.

But honestly, if there's one major issue with socieity today it's that people DON'T READ. It's a sad fact. So many people read so poorly. I mean grown adults, too. Reading helps you, for one thing, READ BETTER (who knew?), increases your vocabulary, makes you a better writer, corrects your speech patterns (not using improper grammar), etc etc. So, dust off your copies of Middlemarch, everyone and start reading!

~Matt

vampyr789
08-14-2008, 04:28 AM
people DON'T READ. everyone and start reading!
~Matt

AMEN!

KR~!
08-14-2008, 04:32 AM
...everyone and start reading!

~Matt

he says while on a Message board...:p

but seriously, it's free: http://www.wordiq.com/books/index.php/

Matt89
08-14-2008, 07:00 AM
he says while on a Message board...:p

LOL "...and start reading some BOOKS."

There. :D

~Matt

Zombie Dude
08-14-2008, 07:07 AM
This new set sounds stupid. Why only include the first 3 movies?

dwatts
08-14-2008, 08:23 AM
This new set sounds stupid. Why only include the first 3 movies?

Because it'll still sell more than a book. ;)

DVD-fanatic-9
08-14-2008, 10:01 AM
Uhh... getting a bit ridiculous, are we guys?
I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't mean that throwaway statement to be taken that seriously.

But it doesn't matter. No matter what I say, people like Dwatts and Paff are going to have a field-day with it. :D It's almost worth it to say things like that just to see how far they'll take their general displeasure with my viewpoint. Maybe I'm not the crazy one after all... :evil: At least I take the time to think things through. I don't care so much about being right and keeping a majority-rules state intact as to lynch on other people. I don't go after people here that I don't like. I'm fine with anyone thinking whatever they want to think - I just think it's fair that I'm heard.

And just because, yeah, I prefer DVD interviews and such to books does not mean you can lump me in with "a culture at large that doesn't read enough" kind of thing. I'm so far from the mainstream, it's a freakin' joke. Like Seymour in Ghost World says - "give 'em a Big Mac and a pair of Nike's and they're happy." But I'm the same with every group of things. I hate that feeling that we should prefer one kind of thing to another. This stream, that stream - what's the difference? Most of it is garbage anyway. Books you read or stuff you watch and hear... Exactly how much do each really relate to you anyway?

Mattapooh
08-14-2008, 11:39 AM
Actually, I'm not just picking on you here. I think you're taking this way too seriously, but I completely see your point. But, as my late grandfather said, "There's a difference between farting and shitting the bed". If you can reasonably tell us that you'd like to see more put into these discs, cool. There's just no reason to get so passionate about it.

What Matt's been telling you is the straight truth and how the Paramount people (and most of the public) view those movies: as garbage. I thought he stated it rather clearly that he enjoys the movies, but admits that they're far from great films. I totally agree with him, I enjoy a ton of movies that are considered "bad", but it doesn't take away my enjoyment of them. HOWEVER, I'm not about to start flipping out because MGM hasn't put out a special edition of The Land That Time Forgot, because I know it doesn't make any sense. To them, it's just throwing money away and I'm sure anything after the Friday box set seems the same to them. It sucks, but that's how it goes.

I think recommending the book is a great idea, but that argument's getting a bit silly as well. I'll rephrase the whole thing so it's not as harsh:

"I know it sucks, but I kinda doubt Paramount's gonna be throwing anything else in with these new discs. I'd really recommend you check out the Crystal Lake Memories book. It'll give you pretty much all the information you'd ever need about the series."

Quick, everyone! To the library!

dwatts
08-14-2008, 03:11 PM
Well, it's a shame they can't package the new set with a sense of humor. :D

HAEMORRHAGE
08-14-2008, 04:54 PM
OK, this thread = me sold on the book.

Grim
08-14-2008, 09:28 PM
OK, this thread = me sold on the book.

It's really got some great things in it, such as a scan of the actual memo the MPAA sent the producers of A New Beginning about what scenes they objected to.

spawningblue
08-14-2008, 10:41 PM
Just to state one thing, I wasn't arguing these films are masterpieces. They are not! But I love them, and so do many others. They have a large following, wait until the documentary comes out and you will see what I'm talking about. They wouldn't keep on making action figures, comics, ect. if they didn't. There have been plenty of horror DVD's that aren't as popular with WAY more extras, that's all I was trying to get across. They could have, and should have done more with the set, nuff said. I mean they didn't even include the unrated cut of the first film, which is widely available anywhere else. Just laziness on their parts, I don't care what you say.

But, unfortunately paramount owns the rights, so instead we will get this three disc set that doesn't even really make sense. I see the remake part of it, but at least include part 4! I guess it's a fact though, they hate their horror fans, even though they made the company what it is now thanks to the fat profits they received from the Friday the 13th movies. My Bloody Valentine will also never see a better edition which is a crying shame, as it is also one of my favourite horror/ slasher films.

But anyways, I'm not arguing. We'll just have to wait and see how the new Friday movie does, and then maybe paramount will see there's an audience for this stuff.

PS You guys have also sold me on those books. I saw the Crystal Lake one, but is there another book that's really good? Is it necessary to own both, or does Crystal Lake pretty much have all the info?

dwatts
08-15-2008, 12:58 AM
I have both books - because I'm a big fan. :)

Personally speaking - I'd suggest you only get the Crystal Lake one.

Zombie Dude
08-15-2008, 01:18 AM
Because it'll still sell more than a book. ;)

Still I'd be happier with the first 4.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-15-2008, 09:26 PM
Well, I guess you know now why my name is DVD-fanatic. I'm okay with being the only one who prefers DVD interviews to the kind of text interviews you probably can find by the bucketful at horror sites like Dread Central and Bloody Disgusting. That's fluff to me. But I'm talking about me, not the world at large. I'm not saying everyone should watch instead of read. Just expressing what's best for me.



It's really got some great things in it, such as a scan of the actual memo the MPAA sent the producers of A New Beginning about what scenes they objected to.
You know, John McNaughton said that the MPAA isn't allowed to tell filmmakers what to cut because then you can sue them for censorship...



I wasn't arguing these films are masterpieces. They are not! But I love them, and so do many others. They have a large following, wait until the documentary comes out and you will see what I'm talking about. They wouldn't keep on making action figures, comics, ect. if they didn't. There have been plenty of horror DVD's that aren't as popular with WAY more extras, that's all I was trying to get across. They could have, and should have done more with the set, nuff said. I mean they didn't even include the unrated cut of the first film, which is widely available anywhere else. Just laziness on their parts, I don't care what you say.
THANK YOU!!! I couldn't possibly agree more.

Now, that's what's up!

dwatts
08-15-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm okay with being the only one who prefers DVD interviews to the kind of text interviews you probably can find by the bucketful at horror sites like Dread Central and Bloody Disgusting. That's fluff to me.

:lol:

There is a world of difference between a "text interview" and a book such as the one discussed - have you really spent so little time reading? They both have words, but the content is miles apart. It's not very clever to admit you don't like reading. But to bang on demanding special features, because at the end of the day you can't be bothered to read, says it all really. No wonder people seem to look down at fans of this series. :D

Someone went to years of trouble compiling, interviewing, researching..... and now a so called fan of the series can't be bothered because.... gosh.... he might have the read, and the copious pictures aren't actually moving. Unless you throw the book across the room (which would actually cause quite a bit of damage, since it's a hefty tome).

Frankly, after all the moaning and angst in this thread, this says it all.

boycrieswolf
08-15-2008, 11:46 PM
Paramount should issue a 'hooked on phonics with Jason Voorhees' reading lesson as an extra on the new boxset, lol! This thread is hilarious...very entertaining! There's some zingers in there man...haha. Dwatts, you kill me. In all seriousness though, he makes a very valid point...I think it's safe to say we would ALL love to see a super packed boxset with everything F13th...but as others have said it's just not that realistic of an expectation...what the hell is so hard to understand about it! And seriously, suggesting that you can't be bothered to read an in depth and extremely informative book on your beloved F13th film series, all the while bitching and moaning about incomplete boxsets, is just asinine. Your argument here is an oxymoron, and it's quite tired. Why don't you track down the various bootlegs, workprints, and multi-region versions of these films and compile the ultimate Friday box yourself instead of bitching about Paramount owing you this and that, it's just pretty pathetic DVD-"FAN"-attic......happy weekend to you all...

Bobbywoodhogan
08-16-2008, 09:35 AM
Paramount should issue a 'hooked on phonics with Jason Voorhees' reading lesson as an extra on the new boxset, lol! This thread is hilarious...very entertaining! There's some zingers in there man...haha. Dwatts, you kill me. In all seriousness though, he makes a very valid point...I think it's safe to say we would ALL love to see a super packed boxset with everything F13th...but as others have said it's just not that realistic of an expectation...what the hell is so hard to understand about it! And seriously, suggesting that you can't be bothered to read an in depth and extremely informative book on your beloved F13th film series, all the while bitching and moaning about incomplete boxsets, is just asinine. Your argument here is an oxymoron, and it's quite tired. Why don't you track down the various bootlegs, workprints, and multi-region versions of these films and compile the ultimate Friday box yourself instead of bitching about Paramount owing you this and that, it's just pretty pathetic DVD-"FAN"-attic......happy weekend to you all...

:D

Crystal Lake Memories is so good ive read it loads of times

Marv Inc.
08-16-2008, 10:53 AM
My intrest in F13 peaked about 2 years ago, when i was buying everything - Original posters, sideshow figers, the dvds, books, Hockey maks etc.

I still love the movies, but not sure if i'll double dip, the old boxset was the best we've had on F1th so far.

What the new release needs is commentarys for each, a proper making of doc for each film and uncut footage re-inserted where possible. Each film should be a 2 discer aswell with the film on the first disc and the special features on the 2nd.

In Crystal lake memories it talks about Carl Fulerton having some cut footage from part 2.

Matt89
08-16-2008, 01:50 PM
Paramount should issue a 'hooked on phonics with Jason Voorhees' reading lesson as an extra on the new boxset, lol! This thread is hilarious...very entertaining! There's some zingers in there man...haha. Dwatts, you kill me. In all seriousness though, he makes a very valid point...I think it's safe to say we would ALL love to see a super packed boxset with everything F13th...but as others have said it's just not that realistic of an expectation...what the hell is so hard to understand about it! And seriously, suggesting that you can't be bothered to read an in depth and extremely informative book on your beloved F13th film series, all the while bitching and moaning about incomplete boxsets, is just asinine. Your argument here is an oxymoron, and it's quite tired. Why don't you track down the various bootlegs, workprints, and multi-region versions of these films and compile the ultimate Friday box yourself instead of bitching about Paramount owing you this and that, it's just pretty pathetic DVD-"FAN"-attic......happy weekend to you all...

LOL thank YOU. You, dwatts, mattapooh...glad to see some people see it from my point of view.

Crystal Lake Memories, $34.40 on amazon. Go out and buy it cuz trust me, it covers stuff you'll never see in an interview. Just give it a chance. I really don't understand why people "don't like reading". You gather so much more from a book than you ever can from a film, especially if the book contains the "much-deserved" in-depth interviews that Paramount "couldn't be bothered with". It's just a little ignorant, like people who say, "I won't watch a black and white movie". If you don't read, you're missing so much. It's like watching only one genre. (Which many of you do.) You miss out on so much by just sticking with say, horror movies. Yes I know this is a horror movie discussion board, but I personally think of us as fans of film, not just horror buffs.

I know some people just "don't like reading" but being as big a fan as you say you are, I find it hard to believe that you won't read a book like this. LOL, suit yourself then. :o

~Matt

bigdaddyhorse
08-16-2008, 05:47 PM
What Paramount needs to do is just re-release the existing boxset with the book as an extra. If more companies did this, then more movie fans would read.:D
I'm getting very tempted to get the book myself as I don't mind the occasional read. Do they make the book in HD?:eek::lol:

dwatts
08-16-2008, 06:27 PM
It even fits nicely on your DVD shelves.







As long as you cut a fucking great hole in them.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-19-2008, 04:27 PM
DVD-"FAN"-attic...
There! Don't you get it? I'm a DVD fanatic. Not a BOOK fanatic. If all the best documents on all the best and my favorite horror movies had been taken care of in book form, I'd be a bigger fan. But I'm a completist for all my extras. And I'm also thoroughly American. So, I'm not going multi-region any time soon. Nor am I buying the book today or tomorrow. It'll have to wait. But in the meantime, it is a fact that Paramount are a bunch of "fucktards" (yes I hate using that expression however it's very appropriate here) who haven't done a good enough job. Other companies have done more for lesser movies. So, suck on that, everyone who is jumping on Matt's little bandwagon. Why not try exercising a little tolerance of different kinds of people? And try to understand what I'm saying? There really is quite a twist in this little story if you're willing to read ME the right way.

Have a nice week, all.



:lol:

There is a world of difference between a "text interview" and a book such as the one discussed - have you really spent so little time reading?
No. I just said that to manipulate you into insulting me again.
Imagine my surprise - it worked. :p



It's not very clever to admit you don't like reading.
I don't care what people think about me. People are likely to hang any number of problems they have with themselves or other people on me because I'm so childlike, gullible, and take everything at face-value. But here's the kicker- if you can't just discuss the movies, I have nothing to say to you or anyone else. I don't get involved in things to make a good impression or win popularity contests. I honestly just like talking movies.

And hey, I'm reading this site- aren't I? Regardless of what you think about it, I prefer spoken interviews. Is there really any problem with that?



Someone went to years of trouble compiling, interviewing, researching... and now a so called fan of the series can't be bothered because... gosh... he might have the read, and the copious pictures aren't actually moving. Unless you throw the book across the room (which would actually cause quite a bit of damage, since it's a hefty tome).
Dwatts, I already said clear as crystal, plain as day - you can't look at what I'm saying and give me this bullshit about how the culture doesn't read anymore. I'm just talking about what I like. Save your "decline of Western civilization" lecture for someone who really is damaging the unwashed masses. Are you going to start singing that "children are our future" song now?

And you know, lots of Someones went to years of trouble compiling interviews for the copious DVD special / deluxe / anniversary / collector's edition sets and discs for fans and enthusiasts... Forgive me for wanting something from the Friday series to put next to my best horror boxsets and multi-disc collections, something to be proud of.


I also seem to remember saying I'll pick up the book eventually. I could see how that might become lost on you.

Oh, and... so I don't forget: :D

dwatts
08-19-2008, 04:49 PM
Damn, I thought this thread was dead. :lol:

Matt89
08-19-2008, 06:04 PM
Wait, wait, wait, wait...

There! Don't you get it? I'm a DVD fanatic...I'm a completist for all my extras.

And...

But I'm not going multi-region any time soon.

Uhmmm...What!? How does that make any sense? You're a completist, yet you won't go region-free? Bit of a contradiction there. "And I'm also thoroughly American", whatever THAT means. :rolleyes:

But in the meantime, it is a fact that Paramount are a bunch of "fucktards" (yes I hate using that expression however it's very appropriate here) who haven't done a good enough job.

No it's NOT a fact. What is FACT is that Paramount just pushed out these Friday the 13th films (almost every single one of them coming out each consecutive year) JUST for profit. If you know any film history you'd know that Paramount was one of the first major studios in Hollywood and that it flourished within the "classical Hollywood system". Or, classical Hollywood filmmaking within the "studio era". Paramount built its foundation on films from that era. Much effort was put into those movies and HENCE, they mean (and SHOULD mean) MUCH MUCH more to them than any Friday the 13th or cheapie slasher movie they rushed to release in the '80s to make a quick buck. They DO NOT deserve more than what they're getting.

It's as if you expect all this effort to be put into making special editions for these films, but you expect it in all the wrong places. Movies that were put together with little to no effort don't deserve to have effort put into making special editions. Crystal Lake Memories was written by a pretty die-hard fan. (Peter Bracke). THAT'S where effort should be expected. Not from a major studio that has many other (higher) priorities. If you're looking for a little more effort, Bracke moderated and put together a pretty nice commentary on the "uncut" R2 DVD of Friday the 13th. But, oh right. You won't go region-free.


Other companies have done more for lesser movies. So, suck on that, everyone who is jumping on Matt's little bandwagon. Why not try exercising a little tolerance of different kinds of people?

Yes OTHER COMPANIES. Companies like Anchor Bay, Blue Underground, Code Red, Shriek Show, Synapse, etc etc. Companies that SPECIALIZE in giving fans special editions of films like these. They're little indie companies, not major studios. And it's not about jumping on bandwagons. (However, speaking of bandwagons, for a great example of classical Hollywood filmmaking as mentioned above, check out "The Band Wagon". There's some great Fred Asatire in it.) :D But it's not about choosing sides. It's about dealing with the reality of the fact that we're not gonna get anything from Paramount. It's a MAJOR STUDIO (how many times do I have to explain it!?) that has other priorities. They already put out a perfectly good boxset, but you can never please people. Stop setting your expectations so high for films like these and maybe you won't be so disappointed.

And no, I'm not "attacking" fans of the series. I'm a fan too. I own original posters for parts 1-3, an original Japanese poster of part 1, I have the boxset, have all the Friday the 13th novelizations, have the uncut version on R2, and I have both the Crystal Lake Memories and Making Friday the 13th books. Am I not a fan? (Want pictures?) I'm just being realistic with what we'd get from a studio like Paramount. You're not. I honestly don't care for any special editions, because I know (from reading the book, surprise surprise!) everything I'd want to know about the series. Read the book and you won't NEED super-deluxe special editions. With commentaries, documentaries, interviews, behind-the scenes insights, theatrical trailers...fuck. The Friday the 13th movies got better special editions than fucking POLTERGEIST! A much, MUCH better film. No argument.

And I could care less how rude I am. It gets incredibly frustrating when for one thing, you say how much of a completist you are, yet you complain about these movies not getting deluxe treatment, when there is a great release on R2. Then you say you "don't plan on" going region-free. Contradictory, no? Okay, your loss. Then, you're ignorant in refusing to understand how major stuios have other priorities and how these films don't deserve what you expect from a major studio like Paramount. If you demand to see all the extra stuff, why hesitate on buying the book? It's $34. And that little remark you made to dwatts about the "song and dance about how children are the future" just shows your ignorance. Who runs the world now? People who were once children. Who will run the world after we're long dead? People who were once children. It's not a song and dance, it's absolute fact.

If you want people to treat you with respect and be tolerant of your opinion, stop being contradictory and ignorant. Then people will listen to what you have to say and take it into consideration.

~Matt

boycrieswolf
08-19-2008, 06:19 PM
Multi-region dvd player at Wal-Mart: $30.00. Crystal Lake Memories book on amazon:$34.00. This thread: Priceless..lol!

Katatonia
08-19-2008, 06:26 PM
Crystal Lake Memories book on amazon:$34.00.

$29.33 at Buy.com with a 5% off code, with free shipping. :evil:

Matt89
08-19-2008, 06:30 PM
Multi-region dvd player at Wal-Mart: $30.00. Crystal Lake Memories book on amazon:$34.00. This thread: Priceless..lol!

LMAO :lol:

LOL but the point is, I'm trying to make a point.

~Matt

DVD-fanatic-9
08-19-2008, 06:42 PM
Matt89 - I have nothing to say to you. You didn't listen to me in the first place, you're only here to rub salt in my wounds, and IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, you can easily ignore it.

spawningblue
08-19-2008, 06:58 PM
And no, I'm not "attacking" fans of the series. I'm a fan too. I own original posters for parts 1-3, an original Japanese poster of part 1, I have the boxset, have all the Friday the 13th novelizations, have the uncut version on R2, and I have both the Crystal Lake Memories and Making Friday the 13th books.
~Matt

Hey, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for the original posters? I am trying to find the original poster for part one, and am wondering what is a realistic price I will have to pay for it?

KR~!
08-19-2008, 07:01 PM
Damn, I thought this thread was dead. :lol:

Like Jason it keeps coming back, and it's always the same plot too :(

Workshed
08-19-2008, 07:22 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I come here for the "popularity contests," not the un-American TEXT that pollutes this place.


:fire:reading!

Matt89
08-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Hey, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for the original posters? I am trying to find the original poster for part one, and am wondering what is a realistic price I will have to pay for it?

Hey, no problem. The poster I have is an insert, 14x36". A little more rare than the one-sheet. You're probably looking for a 27x41" one-sheet though, right? I got my poster for around $50-55. This was about two years ago now but that's usually about how much an original Friday the 13th part 1 poster sells for anyway. (I assume you're looking on eBay.)

The original Japanese one I have was about $75. That one's a lot more rare but if you're looking for an original domestic (American) poster for Friday the 13th, I wouldn't pay more than $60-70 for one in good-very good condition. Hell, even a "mint" one I wouldn't pay more than about that. But a word of advice, try to avoid "mint" posters, or posters with "pearly white" borders. That's one of the key indicators of a fake. And if you find one that you're sure is an original, try not to go overboard on the price. It's all about patience. This stuff does come up every now and then for a fair price. For example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-FRIDAY-THE-13TH-MOVIE-POSTER-1980-HORROR_W0QQitemZ150283851619QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em150283851619&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C2 40%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

That there IS an original, however for an absolutely ridiculous price. That will not sell. I wouldn't even pay $100 for one in that good shape. Like I said, it's all about patience, making sure you're not gettig ripped off and spotting fakes. (They're all over the place.) If you're using ebay I can let you know which sellers you can trust and which sellers you should avoid. If you have any more questions or if you think you see a poster you wanna get and want some advice or an opinion just drop me a PM. I'd be MORE than happy to help you out.

Oh and f.y.i. I paid about $30 each for the posters of Friday the 13th parts 2 and 3. (Both are 14x36" inserts.)

Happy hunting! :D

~Matt

Matt89
08-19-2008, 08:18 PM
Matt89 - I have nothing to say to you. You didn't listen to me in the first place, you're only here to rub salt in my wounds, and IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, you can easily ignore it.

Oh I listened, but you were being completely unrealistic. Then you just started getting ignorant. You have nothing left to say to me? That's absolutely fine. I noticed you basically said the same thing to dwatts. Seems as if you have nothing to say to people who disagree with you, or anyone who agrees with me. I have nothing left to say to you, because I don't think I could possibly say any more. I've drilled my point in as much as I could and you still don't seem to be getting it. Either that or you're just being stubborn. That's fine. I've said all I needed to say, and I think I've made my point quite clear, and from a realistic standpoint. Not everything in life is just handed to you. And if you claim to be as big a fan as you say you are, I suggest you go out and put some effort into searching elsewhere for all those extra features you demand. (i.e. reading the book.)

~Matt

spawningblue
08-19-2008, 08:21 PM
Hey Matt I PM'd you for some poster help. I'm bidding on some right now, so any help would be great! Thanks!

DVD-fanatic-9
08-19-2008, 08:59 PM
Oh I listened, but you were being completely unrealistic. Then you just started getting ignorant.

Seems as if you have nothing to say to people who disagree with you, or anyone who agrees with me.

I've drilled my point in as much as I could and you still don't seem to be getting it. Either that or you're just being stubborn.

Not everything in life is just handed to you.
Thanks for the character critique. I'll have it printed on a special roll of toilet paper, where it belongs.

dwatts
08-19-2008, 09:04 PM
Hey - this is for you. ;)

http://www.noveltp.com/images/close2home.gif

Matt89
08-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Damn, it would take a lot of TP to fit Crystal Lake Memories on it. Yes, it's THAT in-depth! ;)

~Matt

vampyr789
08-19-2008, 09:44 PM
The Friday the 13th movies got better special editions than fucking POLTERGEIST! A much, MUCH better film. No argument.
~Matt

this is very true. what ever happened to that six disc prototype?? it included all of this:


The First Real Ghost Story and The Making of Poltergeist featurettes
Screenplay
Several photo galleries
Fangoria interviews
E! True Hollywood Story, Hollywood Ghost Stories and Terror in The Aisles documentaries
The 6th disc was a copy of the original motion picture soundtrack by Jerry Goldsmith.


now thats a special edition, but it was abandoned. WHY??? what Matt said is very, very true. Friday the 13th series gets a full blown boxset, while Poltergeist gets a documentary with relation to the film what so ever!

dwatts
08-19-2008, 09:47 PM
In-depth.

Toilet paper.

Nah - wont go there.

maybrick
08-19-2008, 09:49 PM
Friday the 13th series gets a full blown boxset, while Poltergeist gets a documentary with relation to the film what so ever!

For what it's worth, it is rather hard to make a box set for a single film. Maybe if MGM didn't own the sequels such a thing could have been possible, but alas...

Matt89
08-19-2008, 09:58 PM
For what it's worth, it is rather hard to make a box set for a single film. Maybe if MGM didn't own the sequels such a thing could have been possible, but alas...

That is true, but individually, each Friday film got much better treatment than Poltergeist did.

But hey, the blu-ray will contain *gasp* :eek: a booklet! ....yaay?

~Matt

DVD-fanatic-9
08-19-2008, 10:19 PM
How many Poltergeist fans are out there? No, REALLY? How many Poltergeist figures and collectibles have they made?

Okay, now I won't go there. Just wanted people to give it a think-over. For the hell of it.

dwatts
08-19-2008, 10:24 PM
Jenna Jamison did a poll - everyone liked it.

Matt89
08-19-2008, 10:40 PM
How many Poltergeist fans are out there? No, REALLY? How many Poltergeist figures and collectibles have they made?

Okay, now I won't go there. Just wanted people to give it a think-over. For the hell of it.

Thought you had nothing to say to me? I'm not going to say anything, as I'm sure others will have something to say about that comment.

~Matt

boycrieswolf
08-19-2008, 11:09 PM
How many Poltergeist fans are out there? No, REALLY? How many Poltergeist figures and collectibles have they made?

Okay, now I won't go there. Just wanted people to give it a think-over. For the hell of it.

Yeah, I've got something to say about it...It's hard to believe DVD-fanatic-9 can continually one-up himself in the ignorance department....let me get this straight...because there's no Carol Ann action figure with supernatural kung-fu grip from McFarlane toys means Poltergeist doesn't have as many fans as Friday 13th? Is that really the basis of comparison for film quality? If so I bet you're going to LOVE the fucking G.I. Joe movie!!! Now, before you get all true grit on my ass let me remind you that I, along with quite possibly every other swingin dick on this message board, am a Friday 13th fan, HOWEVER, Poltergeist is, and will always be a far superior film compared to Friday 13th. (my opinion of course...) You really can't compare the two at all...so the way I see it, you should be happy there's as many different Friday releases as there are! I for one was very much dissappointed in how little respect the Poltergeist dvd got, I even signed a petition for a better release for that film, TWICE. I still bought it though because it's the only option out there right now...but I tell you in all honesty I'd rather have the film in my collection than not have it at all, so maybe you should consider that and just be grateful you have Jason to masturbate to at all....

DVD-fanatic-9
08-19-2008, 11:14 PM
Thought you had nothing to say to me? I'm not going to say anything, as I'm sure others will have something to say about that comment.
I just want people to have these things enter their brains and kick around in there for awhile whenever they consider your viewpoint of Friday the 13th's DVD treatment versus Poltergeist's DVD treatment.

I'm trying to get people to think, and all I want to do is to be able to share my alternative perspective. If you're so enlightened or better than me, whatever, you should be able to just think about what I'm saying without feeling pressured to respond. This is not a competition.


As for Dwatts, "he's God's problem now, kid."

boycrieswolf
08-19-2008, 11:26 PM
I just want people to have these things enter their brains and kick around in there for awhile whenever they consider your viewpoint of Friday the 13th's DVD treatment versus Poltergeist's DVD treatment.

I'm trying to get people to think, and all I want to do is to be able to share my alternative perspective. If you're so enlightened or better than me, whatever, you should be able to just think about what I'm saying without feeling pressured to respond. This is not a competition.


As for Dwatts, "he's God's problem now, kid."

...You're so right man, you got me thinking now...thank you. Since you've enlightened us all with your "alternative perspective", I now realise that I should be able to just think about what you're saying without feeling pressure to respond. This is not a competition......Are you a Jedi?:p

DVD-fanatic-9
08-19-2008, 11:53 PM
I'm sensing some hostility here...

Workshed
08-19-2008, 11:59 PM
If you're so enlightened or better than me,

It's not an classic thread until someone drops the "You think you're better'n me?" line.:D

DVD-fanatic, do us all a favor and compare dwatts to a Nazi and we can sticky this.



aside: all this talk about the damn Crystal Lake book has made me add it to my wishlist. :fuck:
aside II: no hostility from me.

boycrieswolf
08-20-2008, 12:04 AM
No hostility here, futility on the other hand...probably so. Don't worry man, I'm as bored as you are too, it's okay.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-20-2008, 12:19 AM
I wouldn't BE bored if I had a really good Friday the 13th boxset!!

Anyway, good. I guess I'm just asking to be tolerated regardless of my flaws. I don't mean any harm.

dwatts
08-20-2008, 12:19 AM
Hostel(ity) 3 - Crystal Lake.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-20-2008, 12:22 AM
Okay, you must be the most bored of all of us!!

Matt89
08-20-2008, 12:27 AM
Yeah, just as bored as Paramount is with Friday the 13th ;)

~Matt

rxfiend
08-20-2008, 12:34 AM
Don't wait for Paramount to make a boxset, create your own. There is plenty of bootlegs out there of alternate versions, interview footage, etc... Hell I put together an 8 disc boxset myself of F13 bootlegs. :D

rhett
08-20-2008, 12:47 AM
Hey - this is for you. ;)

http://www.noveltp.com/images/close2home.gif
What a shitty strip.

On a side note, we all can get along! :D

dwatts
08-20-2008, 12:54 AM
Okay, you must be the most bored of all of us!!

Who said *I* was bored. I'm having a great time. :lol:

spawningblue
08-20-2008, 02:47 AM
Sweet keep it up guys, this is the first thread of mine that lasted more then 5 posts! I somehow feel special. :banana:

Zillamon51
08-20-2008, 03:16 AM
I never expected anything more than a reissue of the previous box, perhaps with some promo material for the upcoming remake added. If this is indeed going to be a box set of Parts 1-3, then *maybe* Paramount can put some extra effort into it and include the uncut version of Part 1 and the 3-D version of Part 3. I'd be happy with that. If they're not going to add anything of significance, they should just make it one of those triple-features that Wal-mart stocks.

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 03:20 AM
Sweet keep it up guys, this is the first thread of mine that lasted more then 5 posts! I somehow feel special. :banana:

You are special and I love you! Want to get married and have my baby? LMAO! :lol:



I'm actually interested to see what this box set will have in it.

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 07:16 AM
You are special and I love you! Want to get married and have my baby? LMAO! :lol:



I'm actually interested to see what this box set will have in it.

Same, the 3 movie thing isn't really hard news either. It could be wrong. Still, if they offer something good I'll pick it up.

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 07:46 AM
Same, the 3 movie thing isn't really hard news either. It could be wrong. Still, if they offer something good I'll pick it up.

Why didn't you just buy the older box set yet?

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 07:50 AM
Why didn't you just buy the older box set yet?

No, I'm waiting this thing out. The old or current set just isn't appealing to me.

DVD-fanatic-9
08-20-2008, 09:57 AM
SEE! I'm not the only one who wants more.

I'm a trend-setter. :p

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 10:04 AM
SEE! I'm not the only one who wants more.

I'm a trend-setter. :p

Well, the first film really needs to be uncut, and I wouldn't mind seeing an extended cut of Part 2, maybe the Alt ending. Same goes with Part 3. I hoping if this new set is small that they do decide to include The Final Chapter. There seems to be some interesting stuff missing from that too.

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 10:07 AM
Well, the first film really needs to be uncut, and I wouldn't mind seeing an extended cut of Part 2, maybe the Alt ending. Same goes with Part 3. I hoping if this new set is small that they do decide to include The Final Chapter. There seems to be some interesting stuff missing from that too.


I just do not see Paramount ever releasing these uncut. I have the Japan Friday the 13TH UNCUT DVD version. The transfer though is not that great though. Still It will do just fine for now.

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 10:14 AM
I just do not see Paramount ever releasing these uncut. I have the Japan Friday the 13TH UNCUT DVD version. The transfer though is not that great though. Still It will do just fine for now.

I have the Australian version, which is also uncut. I think it's time America got that version. Paramount is a crap studio when it come to horror.:(

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 10:16 AM
I have the Australian version, which is also uncut. I think it's time America got that version. Paramount is a crap studio when it come to horror.:(

How is the transfer on it?

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 10:20 AM
How is the transfer on it?

Not too bad actually. Not as good as Paramount's, but on a Plasma it still manages to impress.

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 10:26 AM
Not too bad actually. Not as good as Paramount's, but on a Plasma it still manages to impress.

Bad transfers look fucking brutal on HD TV's. My Plasma is getting ready to shit the bed.

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 10:38 AM
Bad transfers look fucking brutal on HD TV's. My Plasma is getting ready to shit the bed.

Mine's a Panasonic. It's quite good.

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 10:48 AM
Mine's a Panasonic. It's quite good.

How big is it? :eek2:

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 10:50 AM
How big is it? :eek2:

50';)

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 10:53 AM
50';)

In your bedroom?

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 10:55 AM
In your bedroom?

No, unfortunately.:(

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 10:59 AM
No, unfortunately.:(

Why don't you just buy a TV? Thats got to suck Donkey nuts trying to watch your horror movies. Hey why do several of your DVDs have some stupid happy face on the top?

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 11:08 AM
Why don't you just buy a TV? Thats got to suck Donkey nuts trying to watch your horror movies. Hey why do several of your DVDs have some stupid happy face on the top?

Can't be bothered atm. I probably will eventually. The face is part of the logo from the dvd company that released it. I end up watching most of my horror on the picture tube.

Vlachio
08-20-2008, 11:16 AM
Can't be bothered atm. I probably will eventually. The face is part of the logo from the dvd company that released it. I end up watching most of my horror on the picture tube.

Oh OK well back on subject:

I read somewhere can't for the life of me remember. If I am correct I remember at the release of the old box set they were saying things like "we've already found footage we wish we could have included in this set. So, we plan to release another set in a few years with unrated cuts of some of the films." I remember this clearly because i thought it was the strangest way to promote something. Release it and immediately say that you will do this again but better?
weird. :fuck:

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 11:58 AM
Oh OK well back on subject:

I read somewhere can't for the life of me remember. If I am correct I remember at the release of the old box set they were saying things like "we've already found footage we wish we could have included in this set. So, we plan to release another set in a few years with unrated cuts of some of the films." I remember this clearly because i thought it was the strangest way to promote something. Release it and immediately say that you will do this again but better?
weird. :fuck:

Can't say I ever heard that. I do like the sound of it though. Maybe we do have hope.

dwatts
08-20-2008, 12:28 PM
The first film is available uncut in R2 in an excellent transfer.

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 01:10 PM
The first film is available uncut in R2 in an excellent transfer.

R4 would be the same as R2 I'm guessing.

dwatts
08-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Perhaps, yeah. I'd rate the quality as excellent.

I'd also say that the extra bit here and there does nothing for the movie really. I liked it then, and I like it now. :)

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 01:21 PM
Perhaps, yeah. I'd rate the quality as excellent.

I'd also say that the extra bit here and there does nothing for the movie really. I liked it then, and I like it now. :)

It's still nice to have it in the film. And as far as I know, the Paramount transfer is better.

SaviniFan
08-20-2008, 01:40 PM
I own the region 2 Warner uncut release and although I agree the extra gore doesn't make the film any better, it is nice knowing I'm seeing the film as intended by the director.

Zombie Dude
08-20-2008, 01:41 PM
I own the region 2 Warner uncut release and although I agree the extra gore doesn't make the film any better, it is nice knowing I'm seeing the film as intended by the director.

Not that he seems to care much for the film.

spawningblue
08-20-2008, 03:36 PM
You are special and I love you! Want to get married and have my baby? LMAO! :lol:

Sure why not. ;)

Or am I too late to reply...

As for this 3 movie box set, it is supposed to have some new extras, but like others have said, it will probably just be stuff promoting the remake. If they did at the least include the uncut version of part one, I may bite. hopefully they are released on Blu Ray soon as well!

vampyr789
08-20-2008, 11:36 PM
it is nice knowing I'm seeing the film as intended by the director.

it always is, i hate seeing cut up versions that just cut out about 30 mins out of the whole film! (Deep Red cut version)

Matt89
08-21-2008, 12:35 AM
it always is, i hate seeing cut up versions that just cut out about 30 mins out of the whole film! (Deep Red cut version)

Well, even with the cut footage put back into Friday the 13th, it still only restores maybe what? 22 seconds of the film? LOL. Doesn't really add much. (I really don't see why they cut it in the first place. It's not like it makes the film any LESS violent.)

~Matt

rxfiend
08-21-2008, 02:26 AM
22 seconds? More like 10 seconds, if that. Hell, the uncut Kevin Bacon scene looks pretty fake in the uncut version (very obvious where the dummy body is). While the gore is pretty cool, that is one scene where the R rated version has the advantage.

For those still hoping for lots of extras on this set, remember there is a documentary being made about the series outside of Paramount. It is being put together by the same folks who did the Halloween 25 Years of Terror documentary. I expect that DVD set will be loaded with extras (convention footage, interviews, etc...) like the Halloween set. No date for release, but I imagine it'll be out next year sometime.

Egg_Shen
08-21-2008, 03:04 AM
22 seconds? More like 10 seconds, if that. Hell, the uncut Kevin Bacon scene looks pretty fake in the uncut version (very obvious where the dummy body is). While the gore is pretty cool, that is one scene where the R rated version has the advantage.

For those still hoping for lots of extras on this set, remember there is a documentary being made about the series outside of Paramount. It is being put together by the same folks who did the Halloween 25 Years of Terror documentary. I expect that DVD set will be loaded with extras (convention footage, interviews, etc...) like the Halloween set. No date for release, but I imagine it'll be out next year sometime.


http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13379

And it's being made by the guy who did the book, so everyone can be happy and be friends.

dwatts
08-21-2008, 03:24 AM
The book will speak! :lol:

Grim
08-21-2008, 03:30 AM
22 seconds? More like 10 seconds, if that. Hell, the uncut Kevin Bacon scene looks pretty fake in the uncut version (very obvious where the dummy body is). While the gore is pretty cool, that is one scene where the R rated version has the advantage.

Yeah I could barely tell when a death scene was extended in the uncut version, except for Kevin Bacon's death. When they were put against the cut version side by side it was noticeable, but overall I don't think the added gore made any substantial improvement on the film. Now Part 7, you're talking possibly minutes of added gruesome action. I'd be most interested in that one, even if they have to use some crappy positive like with From Beyond. And hey look how that turned out! This is all wishful thinking though. :p

Myron Breck
08-21-2008, 03:59 AM
Again, I hate the fact that the R-rated version is the way to go...but it is. IT IS! The Kevin Bacon body is fake as shit and the beheading is too. God bless the MPAA!!!!

[ducks bullets]

maybrick
08-21-2008, 12:34 PM
Again, I hate the fact that the R-rated version is the way to go...but it is. IT IS! The Kevin Bacon body is fake as shit and the beheading is too. God bless the MPAA!!!!

[ducks bullets]

:lol:

spawningblue
08-21-2008, 07:21 PM
For those still hoping for lots of extras on this set, remember there is a documentary being made about the series outside of Paramount. It is being put together by the same folks who did the Halloween 25 Years of Terror documentary. I expect that DVD set will be loaded with extras (convention footage, interviews, etc...) like the Halloween set. No date for release, but I imagine it'll be out next year sometime.

Yeah I keep forgetting about that. That's exciting news! Maybe they'll have the deleted scenes on it, or at the least I'm sure they'll talk about them. I guess with this coming out I am not that upset about an ultimate box set not coming out.

boycrieswolf
08-21-2008, 11:52 PM
** FRIDAY THE 13TH documentary: Filming has commenced in L.A. on HIS NAME WAS JASON, a new documentary about the franchise. It will air on Starz the first week of February 2009 (just in time for Platinum Dunes' new film). A DVD release through Anchor Bay Entertainment will follow. Daniel Farrands - editor/co-publisher of Crystal Lake Memories and director of The History Channel's two Amityville Horror docs - is directing with Anthony Masi and Thommy Hutson on producing duties. This triumvirate is gathering an eclectic mix of cast, crew and other industry professionals to talk about the film, its sequels and the impact it has had on the horror genre, furthermore, pop culture. (thanks to ShockTillYouDrop.com)

Thought those of you following this thread might be interested in this...

rxfiend
09-14-2008, 12:39 PM
According to a post at this thread:

http://avmaniacs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38151

A spokesman from Paramount stated at a recent horror convention (this weekend) that the new set will contain the uncut version of the original movie. No biggie for most of us, but at least they're doing that for those who care.

Bobbywoodhogan
09-14-2008, 04:34 PM
According to a post at this thread:

http://avmaniacs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38151

A spokesman from Paramount stated at a recent horror convention (this weekend) that the new set will contain the uncut version of the original movie. No biggie for most of us, but at least they're doing that for those who care.

I already have the uncut version its out uncut here in the UK, I'd rather see part VII uncut more than anything.

Grim
09-14-2008, 08:34 PM
Considering my uncut disc is region 3 and my ps3 is region locked (the gameshark i had for my ps2 at the time when i originally bought it allowed for other region play), I may pick it up.

russweiss
09-14-2008, 09:58 PM
4950

4951

4952

Zombie Dude
09-15-2008, 07:49 AM
According to a post at this thread:

http://avmaniacs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38151

A spokesman from Paramount stated at a recent horror convention (this weekend) that the new set will contain the uncut version of the original movie. No biggie for most of us, but at least they're doing that for those who care.

What about the other films? Deleted scenes, alternate endings? I'd like those to show up too.

Vlachio
09-15-2008, 10:34 AM
What about the other films? Deleted scenes, alternate endings? I'd like those to show up too.



You have better odds at making out with KATT then those films ever getting released uncut. How do you like those apples oh oh oh! :eek2:

Zombie Dude
09-15-2008, 11:07 AM
You have better odds at making out with KATT then those films ever getting released uncut. How do you like those apples oh oh oh! :eek2:

I think you may be right. Oh well, at least either way I'm happy.:D

Roythe13th
09-15-2008, 08:10 PM
I was at The Scarefest this past weekend in Lexington (I was lucky enough to be a volunteer staff member at the last minute there which gave me some inside access).

Paramount crew was there and said the plan is to have it uncut with tons of extras. They stopped right at calling it a special edition. Fingers crossed for deleted scenes. The crew filmed the Friday the 13th reunion panel with Betsy Palmer, Adrienne King, Ari Lehman, Tom Savini, Victor Miller and Harry Manfredini. There was a midnight screening of Friday the 13th down the street at the Kentucky Theater (They are a great place to see classic horror on the big screen BTW) and the film crew was there also to interview fans in line as well as Tom Savini's introduction of the movie. I was able to talk with Adrienne King inside and outside the convention many times over the weekend and she told me she did a new interview for the DVD a couple of weeks ago in LA. She also talked a little about how Paramount always saw Friday as their dirty little secret and has always had stuff to put on a special edition but was waiting for a reason….like the remake . She didn't know if there would be a new boxset for all the movies but the first Friday is for sure getting a packed new addition.

Adrienne was an absolute class act. If you go to a convention that she is appearing at, you must meet her. She is extremely gracious and friendly. Everyone I talked with, be it my long time friends and people I just meet over the weekend, could not stop talking about how great she was. Oh, and if you want to buy her a drink, she drinks Vodka Tonics.

Grim
09-16-2008, 04:58 AM
The rumors about at least the original being uncut seem to be true.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7724

Myron Breck
09-23-2008, 03:21 AM
Hmmm. I'm torn. I have the box set as well as the R2 versions on DVD. I also have both the "Camp Blood" and "Crystal Lake Memories" books--there really isn't a whole lot left to say about this movie, but it is SO dear to my heart that I may break down and fork over some (more) cash for a truly Special edition.

vampyr789
09-23-2008, 03:35 AM
I was at The Scarefest this past weekend in Lexington (I was lucky enough to be a volunteer staff member at the last minute there which gave me some inside access).

Paramount crew was there and said the plan is to have it uncut with tons of extras. They stopped right at calling it a special edition. Fingers crossed for deleted scenes. The crew filmed the Friday the 13th reunion panel with Betsy Palmer, Adrienne King, Ari Lehman, Tom Savini, Victor Miller and Harry Manfredini. There was a midnight screening of Friday the 13th down the street at the Kentucky Theater (They are a great place to see classic horror on the big screen BTW) and the film crew was there also to interview fans in line as well as Tom Savini's introduction of the movie. I was able to talk with Adrienne King inside and outside the convention many times over the weekend and she told me she did a new interview for the DVD a couple of weeks ago in LA. She also talked a little about how Paramount always saw Friday as their dirty little secret and has always had stuff to put on a special edition but was waiting for a reason….like the remake . She didn't know if there would be a new boxset for all the movies but the first Friday is for sure getting a packed new addition.

Adrienne was an absolute class act. If you go to a convention that she is appearing at, you must meet her. She is extremely gracious and friendly. Everyone I talked with, be it my long time friends and people I just meet over the weekend, could not stop talking about how great she was. Oh, and if you want to buy her a drink, she drinks Vodka Tonics.


OOH YES!! great news!!

spawningblue
09-25-2008, 08:23 PM
Not really anything new, but it looks like it most likely will be a box set of the first three films, but with loads of new features. A little disappointing, but I will probably still pick it up. It's too bad they couldn't have released the first four together though, and finished that story, and then released a loaded second box set with the other 4 Paramount flicks.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7858

But what I was thinking, and the reason I'm posting, if it is true that Paramount will release the first film unrated, then it goes against their stance of not releasing unrated DVDs. Does that mean maybe there's a chance of an unrated My Bloody Valentine DVD? Once the trailer for the remake is released, if there's a lot of hype behind it and they feel like it is going to make lots of movie, maybe they will actually think about it and release it to coincide with the remake! Here's hoping!

spawningblue
09-25-2008, 08:28 PM
Then again, it kind of seems like they are taking the lazy way out and just releasing the first one unrated, as it was already released that way Internationally. If they don't take time to release unrated cuts of Part 2 and 3, I doubt they will do the same for MBV. I guess we can all dream though...

Grim
09-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Not really anything new, but it looks like it most likely will be a box set of the first three films, but with loads of new features. A little disappointing, but I will probably still pick it up. It's too bad they couldn't have released the first four together though, and finished that story, and then released a loaded second box set with the other 4 Paramount flicks.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=7858

But what I was thinking, and the reason I'm posting, if it is true that Paramount will release the first film unrated, then it goes against their stance of not releasing unrated DVDs. Does that mean maybe there's a chance of an unrated My Bloody Valentine DVD? Once the trailer for the remake is released, if there's a lot of hype behind it and they feel like it is going to make lots of movie, maybe they will actually think about it and release it to coincide with the remake! Here's hoping!

They had abandoned their "no unrated" policy years ago. Titles such as Team America: World Police, Jackass: The Movie, Sliver, or Beowulf are evident of that. It's just a matter of whether or not they want to invest the money in putting together an unrated cut of a film.

spawningblue
09-25-2008, 11:11 PM
They had abandoned their "no unrated" policy years ago. Titles such as Team America: World Police, Jackass: The Movie, Sliver, or Beowulf are evident of that. It's just a matter of whether or not they want to invest the money in putting together an unrated cut of a film.

My bad, I guess I don't pay too much attention with what paramount is putting out. But yeah I agree, it's probably more about whether or not it's worth it to them. Here's hoping lots of hype comes with the new remake though, as if it's going to get done, now is the time!

Grim
09-25-2008, 11:59 PM
My bad, I guess I don't pay too much attention with what paramount is putting out. But yeah I agree, it's probably more about whether or not it's worth it to them. Here's hoping lots of hype comes with the new remake though, as if it's going to get done, now is the time!

I'm not going to put money on an uncut version, as that would probably require finding the elements, then remastering them, and re-inserting them into the film, which would cost a substantial amount of money, but I could definitely seeing them re-releasing the film with some new features to coincide with the remake. I thought I read somewhere that the director has an uncut print of the film in his possession, but who knows what kind of condition that's in.

Zombie Dude
09-26-2008, 02:25 AM
I'm not going to put money on an uncut version, as that would probably require finding the elements, then remastering them, and re-inserting them into the film, which would cost a substantial amount of money, but I could definitely seeing them re-releasing the film with some new features to coincide with the remake. I thought I read somewhere that the director has an uncut print of the film in his possession, but who knows what kind of condition that's in.

Well they actually have the cut footage. It's either with the director or producer, but I remember reading that they were trying to strike a deal with Paramount to get an uncut version of the film out. With the remake of MBV coming out, I think an uncut release is very possible.

shithead
09-28-2008, 12:45 AM
Since i still do not have a region free player i am happy about the first Friday being uncut, and will definitely pick it up.

Vlachio
09-28-2008, 12:50 AM
Since i still do not have a region free player i am happy about the first Friday being uncut, and will definitely pick it up.



Every time I blow a fart I end up buying a new dvd player. What I mean is I am constantly having to track down dvd players that can be unlocked. At this point I am all but ready to give up. I'm sick of it to no end. I have 1 region free player left out a half a dozen players that all shit the bed. Some were cheap some were expensive so very frustrating.

Zombie Dude
09-28-2008, 02:28 AM
Every time I blow a fart I end up buying a new dvd player. What I mean is I am constantly having to track down dvd players that can be unlocked. At this point I am all but ready to give up. I'm sick of it to no end. I have 1 region free player left out a half a dozen players that all shit the bed. Some were cheap some were expensive so very frustrating.

Sounds unlucky. I have 3 region free dvd players and they all work.

Matt89
09-28-2008, 02:55 AM
I find that more and more 'R1' DVD players are capable of being "unlocked". I remember how hard it used to be to find one, but nearly every DVD player that comes out now seems to have some sort of hack to make it region-free.

~Matt

dwatts
09-28-2008, 02:57 AM
Every time I blow a fart I end up buying a new dvd player.

Sort your diet out, and save money on players?

Vlachio
09-28-2008, 03:08 AM
Sort your diet out, and save money on players?

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Zombie Dude
09-28-2008, 03:17 AM
I find that more and more 'R1' DVD players are capable of being "unlocked". I remember how hard it used to be to find one, but nearly every DVD player that comes out now seems to have some sort of hack to make it region-free.

~Matt

Yeah I found out about cracking the players. I did it with the last player I bought.

thrashard76
09-28-2008, 06:12 AM
Yeah I found out about cracking the players. I did it with the last player I bought.

You dropped it? :D

lv426
09-28-2008, 08:05 AM
....this thread has been so fun to read, that I picked up a copy of Crystal Lake Memories, based solely on the comments posted. I am so far very impressed with it, I was blown away by it's size and heft. Looking forward to the documentary!

Vlachio
09-28-2008, 09:43 AM
....this thread has been so fun to read, that I picked up a copy of Crystal Lake Memories, based solely on the comments posted. I am so far very impressed with it, I was blown away by it's size and heft. Looking forward to the documentary!


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Fun is an understatement I so agree with you! I'm too am blown away at the love for these films on here. I can't say enough I'm ape shit crazy for these Jason movies. I have that book also got it a while back. It's somewhere in my room but I don't feel like digging around for it. I'll look for it later this morning when I do my laundry.

Zombie Dude
09-28-2008, 12:41 PM
You dropped it? :D

:lol:You know what I mean. I was surprised that you could hack into them and change the region coding.

thrashard76
09-29-2008, 06:17 AM
:lol:You know what I mean. I was surprised that you could hack into them and change the region coding.

;)

Zombie Dude
09-29-2008, 06:22 AM
There's really been no solid news of this set. I hope we hear something soon.

Vlachio
09-29-2008, 06:48 AM
There's really been no solid news of this set. I hope we hear something soon.

So far from what I have gathered they are working on new extras for all 3 films. Hopefully they will also be using new film prints. Hopefully Part 2 & 3 get special editions also. Anyway so far everything appears to be going that direction. :p

Zombie Dude
09-29-2008, 06:52 AM
So far from what I have gathered they are working on new extras for all 3 films. Hopefully they will also be using new film prints. Hopefully Part 2 & 3 get special editions also. Anyway so far everything appears to be going that direction. :p

I hope Parts 2 & 3 do get some good treatment too. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Vlachio
09-29-2008, 06:58 AM
I hope Parts 2 & 3 do get some good treatment too. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.


I want part 3 in 3D so damn bad. A nice uncut versions of Part 1 & 2 would be sweet. I wish part 8 had never been made. That is the only Friday film I have major problems with. The rest of the films are fine IMO. Part 8 doesn't need any kind of special treatment ever, ever! Thoughts?

Zombie Dude
09-29-2008, 07:00 AM
I want part 3 in 3D so damn bad. A nice uncut versions of Part 1 & 2 would be sweet. I wish part 8 had never been made. That is the only Friday film I have major problems with. The rest of the films are fine IMO. Part 8 doesn't need any kind of special treatment ever, ever! Thoughts?

I wouldn't mind seeing the alt endings for part 2&3 turn up. Plus it would be nice for them to restore missing gore, especially from part 2.

fattyjoe37
09-29-2008, 07:07 AM
I want part 3 in 3D so damn bad. A nice uncut versions of Part 1 & 2 would be sweet. I wish part 8 had never been made. That is the only Friday film I have major problems with. The rest of the films are fine IMO. Part 8 doesn't need any kind of special treatment ever, ever! Thoughts?

Part 8 is one of the worst movies ever made. I also have problems with 5 and Jason Goes to Hell, but part 8 is ridiculously awful. I hate how in the box set out now, 8 has a commentary and Final Chapter (my favorite) has nothing.

Matt89
09-29-2008, 07:13 AM
Part 3 in 3-D honestly is not a very big deal. It really is nothing special. Sure, it looks stupid in 2-D but it just looks hokey in 3-D anyway. It wouldn't bother me much, seeing as how part 3 is one of the worst in the series.

Besides, you guys realize that you DO need certain equipment to view the movie in 3-D, right? Go on fleshwoundvideo.com. They have the 3-D version. To watch the true version in Stereoscopic 3-D, you need a certain system. This is the proper way to watch Part 3 in 3-D. There's also an option of watching it in Anaglyphic 3-D (the red-blue glasses) but you don't get nearly the same effect as watching it in Stereoscopic 3-D.

Oh, and the 3-D equipment only works on tube TVs. It won't work on HDTVs.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
09-29-2008, 07:16 AM
Part 3 in 3-D honestly is not a very big deal. It really is nothing special. Sure, it looks stupid in 2-D but it just looks hokey in 3-D anyway. It wouldn't bother me much, seeing as how part 3 is one of the worst in the series.

Besides, you guys realize that you DO need certain equipment to view the movie in 3-D, right? Go on fleshwoundvideo.com. They have the 3-D version. To watch the true version in Stereoscopic 3-D, you need a certain system. This is the proper way to watch Part 3 in 3-D. There's also an option of watching it in Anaglyphic 3-D (the red-blue glasses) but you don't get nearly the same effect as watching it in Stereoscopic 3-D.

Oh, and the 3-D equipment only works on tube TVs. It won't work on HDTVs.

~Matt
Looks like Part 3 in 3D wont be happening.

Vlachio
09-29-2008, 07:20 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing the alt endings for part 2 & 3 turn up. Plus it would be nice for them to restore missing gore, especially from part 2.


There is supposed to be allot of gore cut from part 2.There are even moments in the film were the cuts are so damn obvious. Don't know if the footage still exists though. Lets hope this new box set doesn't end up being a bunch of flippers discs aye? I also doubt Paramount will pay the amount it would take to make part 3D doable.


Part 8 is one of the worst movies ever made. I also have problems with 5 and Jason Goes to Hell, but part 8 is ridiculously awful. I hate how in the box set out now, 8 has a commentary and Final Chapter (my favorite) has nothing.


Oh totally we are definitely seeing eye to eye on that! So yeah I still got face burns from being bitch slapped. :mad: Don't get me started on the ugly cheap ass packaging the box set came in too.

Zombie Dude
09-29-2008, 07:25 AM
There is supposed to be allot of gore cut from part 2.There are even moments in the film were the cuts are so damn obvious. Don't know if the footage still exists though. Lets hope this new box set doesn't end up being a bunch of flippers discs aye? I also doubt Paramount will pay the amount it would take to make part 3D doable.

Well this set seems more promising. Lets hope they don't disappoint.

Vlachio
09-29-2008, 07:25 AM
Part 3 in 3-D honestly is not a very big deal. It really is nothing special. Sure, it looks stupid in 2-D but it just looks hokey in 3-D anyway. It wouldn't bother me much, seeing as how part 3 is one of the worst in the series.

Besides, you guys realize that you DO need certain equipment to view the movie in 3-D, right? Go on fleshwoundvideo.com. They have the 3-D version. To watch the true version in Stereoscopic 3-D, you need a certain system. This is the proper way to watch Part 3 in 3-D. There's also an option of watching it in Anaglyphic 3-D (the red-blue glasses) but you don't get nearly the same effect as watching it in Stereoscopic 3-D.

Oh, and the 3-D equipment only works on tube TVs. It won't work on HDTVs.

~Matt

It's one of my favorite films in the series. However yeah I have read many times it's bad corny bad in 3D. I'd still like to see that for myself.

fattyjoe37
09-29-2008, 07:29 AM
It's one of my favorite films in the series. However yeah I have read many times it's bad corny bad in 3D. I'd still like to see that for myself.

I also liked part 3. Actually based on the top 20 slasher lists, I think I'm in the minority who liked this better than part 2. It was a fun F13 with some great kills. I mean, I still think the split in half while walking on hands is the best death of the series.

I would love to see it in 3D just because that's the way it was intended to be shown. And the 3D version of the eye pop has to be better than the one we have now where you can see the rods.

Vlachio
09-29-2008, 07:38 AM
And the 3D version of the eye pop has to be better than the one we have now where you can see the rods.



Ya thats the one thing I wish they would digitally fix if possible.

Zombie Dude
09-29-2008, 07:40 AM
Ya thats the one thing I wish they would digitally fix if possible.

I think it's going to be interesting to see how much effort they actually put into this set.

MadmanMarz
11-03-2008, 07:32 PM
I have to post this before DVDBone...sorry no link to share but I got this information straight from the studio source.

2/3/09 Street Date
Friday the 13th Deluxe Version (Unrated) SRP $16.99
**Features:Commentary, Featurettes, Trailers

Friday the 13th Blu Ray Deluxe Edition (Unrated) SRP $29.99
**Features:Commentary, Featurettes, Trailers

Friday the 13th Part 2 Deluxe Edition (Rated) SRP $16.99
**Features:Featurettes, Trivia, and Trailers

Friday the 13th Part 3 Deluxe Edition (Rated) SRP $16.99
**Features:3D Version of the film with 4 pairs of glasses, 2D version included as well

These will all be single disc releases with Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound and have lenticular packaging!

Katatonia
11-04-2008, 06:59 AM
New information? : http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=69303


Paramount Home Entertainment have announced the Region 1 DVD release of Friday the 13th (Uncut, Deluxe Edition) on 3rd February 2009. Sean S. Cunningham directs this horror classic which is given a new DVD release to coincide with the theatrical release of the remake.


Details are slim on the classification, but the Uncut status is backed up by an Unrated US Rating (instead of the previous editions’ R rating). Extras include:

Commentary by director Sean Cunningham (on the WB international version - trying to access*)
Fresh Cuts: New Tales from "Friday the 13th"
Man Behind the Legacy: Sean S. Cunningham
Friday the 13th - Special Reunion
Lost Tales from Camp Blood - Part 1
Theatrical Trailer - Used on 2004 release
*The wording used here would suggest Paramount are trying to gain approval to use the commentary found on the Warner international DVD releases.

Also released are new Deluxe Editions of Friday the 13th Part 2 and Friday the 13th Part 3 3D. Introducing the Jason we all know and love, these discs are R rated and offer the following extras…


Friday the 13th Part 2

Inside Crystal Lake Memories
Horror Convention
Lost Tales from Camp Blood - Part 2
Slasher Films: Going for the Jugular
Jason Trivia Track (text)
Jason Forever - Used on 2004 release/Best Buy bonus disc
Theatrical Trailer - Used on 2004 release
Friday the 13th Part 3 3D - No extras listed / extras TBC.

Zombie Dude
11-04-2008, 08:12 AM
New information? : http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=69303

Well for Part 1 I like what I'm hearing. Part 2 at least has special features but nothing has been mentioned about it being uncut and Part 3 isn't announced but seems to be promising a 3D version.

It's a start.

rhett
11-04-2008, 12:43 PM
Not bad at all! I'm content with watching 2 and 3 as they are now, just give me some extras. Parts V onwards though, give me some more gore!

mascareiro
11-04-2008, 02:10 PM
certainly parts IV-VII would really benefit from having more gore, especially IV, V and VII... but as satisfactory as a 3-D version for part 3 might appear to be, please folks don't forget about the alternative ending.... don't you remember the story about that lead girl being too much against the violence committed against her in the alternative finale (or was it the originally planned finale?) and a couple more scenes... and then they just cut it away?

Well, the finale was supposed to feature jason unmasked, with a pretty kickass slightly different makeup on, decapitating the lead girl in a brutal manner... I guess it was to appear as the ending dream sequence instead of him just running towards here coming down from inside the house, which is an awesome scene and should stay in the movie... even though I can't judge cause I never knew any different to compare, I just got used to it.

But to me the alternative ending should DEFINITELY be a subject of debate around fans in the "mandatory" stuff we want in the new version kind of discussion... I'm so surprised no one brought this up so far (as far as I know)

Actually the screen captures you can find online are pretty good quality, so if they're any indication of an existing source for that scene, we should demand it...

Just my 2 cents, thing is I was very surprised I kept reading about unrated unrated and no one brought this up, it would be amazing to have that scene and whatever other alternative scenes they filmed as a "deleted scenes" feature on the future DVD release.

check it out:
http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/1109/beyondf13th3alternativeendingwalltv8.jpg