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rxfiend
11-03-2008, 08:02 PM
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2009

Friday the 13th Announced for Blu-ray

Posted November 3, 2008 12:10 PM by Josh Dreuth

Paramount Paramount Home Entertainment has announced that they will bring 'Friday the 13th Unrated: Deluxe Edition' to Blu-ray on February 3rd, day-and-date with the DVD re-release. Technical specs have yet to be announced, but you can expect the usual Paramount treatment of 1080p video accompanied by a Dolby TrueHD soundtrack.

Extras have also yet to be announced for the Blu-ray, but it should mirror the DVD release which includes:

* Commentary: Commentary by director Sean Cunningham (on the WB international version - trying to access)
* Fresh Cuts: New Tales from "Friday the 13th"
* Man Behind the Legacy: Sean S. Cunningham
* Friday the 13th - Special Reunion
* Lost Tales from Camp Blood - Part 1
* Theatrical Trailer - Used on 2004 release

dickieduvet
11-03-2008, 08:05 PM
I'm all over this, God bless Paramount for being Region friendly :D

indiephantom
11-03-2008, 08:41 PM
should be a fun addition to my collection.

evileye
11-03-2008, 08:41 PM
Where's the announcements for part 2 & 3?? Special Edition DVDs coome out the same day for those:

Friday The 13th Unrated: Deluxe Edition

Uncut version of the film
Commentary by director Sean Cunningham
Fresh Cuts: New Tales from "Friday the 13th"
Man Behind the Legacy: Sean S. Cunningham
Friday the 13th - Special Reunion
Lost Tales from Camp Blood - Part 1
Theatrical Trailer

Friday the 13th Part 2: Deluxe Edition

Inside Crystal Lake Memories
Horror Convention
Lost Tales from Camp Blood - Part 2
Slasher Films: Going for the Jugular
Jason Trivia Track
Jason Forever
Theatrical Trailer

Friday the 13th Part 3 3D: Deluxe Edition

Matt89
11-03-2008, 09:10 PM
Well, I have to say I am fucking SHOCKED. Friday the 13th on blu, that's pretty freakin' sweet, although I prefer Part 2 to the original. You never know, maybe they'll be releasing the rest of the movies in the series down the line (like they did for the original DVD releases, 2 a year).

~Matt

othervoice1
11-03-2008, 09:17 PM
Friday the 13th on blu-ray and unrated edition - sweet

ekent
11-03-2008, 09:44 PM
I'll buy that, whether or not I have a bluray player by then.

Stige
11-03-2008, 09:48 PM
f 13th bluray maybe depending on reviews
part 2 and 3 .............probably not no scenes that are missing and just some info thats been covered a lot of times in books

Matt89
11-03-2008, 09:52 PM
Yeah that's the way I'm feeling. However, I'm keeping my expectations high for this, as Paramount's standard def release of part 1 looks fantastic. And I've yet to be disappointed by the image quality of a Paramount blu-ray.

~Matt

Mutilated Prey
11-03-2008, 10:15 PM
Now we're talkin'! WooHoo! :glasses:

KR~!
11-03-2008, 10:53 PM
more and more reasons to go Blu-Ray

rxfiend
11-03-2008, 11:53 PM
The specs on the other DVDs don't sound too great IMO. Looks like I'll just be picking up the Anchor Bay documentary (His name was Jason) and skipping these. But it's good to see Paramount going HD with F13, even if it's just the first one.

Grim
11-04-2008, 01:17 AM
This is awesome news. Hopefully the sequels will follow and they'll get the same treatment. After all, this remake is borrowing from the sequels more than anything.

fceurich39
11-04-2008, 01:31 AM
so is the new paramount box set going to be blu ray and is it still coming out???? containing the first 3 films also what about the standard dvd box set

Matt89
11-04-2008, 02:47 AM
Well, neither. Only part 1 is getting a blu-ray release for now. All three films are definitely still coming out in standard def, and in "deluxe" editions. Not sure if they're gonna be in boxset form, though.

~Matt

Grim
11-04-2008, 02:51 AM
If that's the case then I'll get the blu-ray for the original and just hold off until the other two get a blu-ray release.

KamuiX
11-04-2008, 03:16 AM
Let me know when part 2 is announced ;)

Matt89
11-04-2008, 04:15 AM
If that's the case then I'll get the blu-ray for the original and just hold off until the other two get a blu-ray release.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.

~Matt

AndresG
11-04-2008, 06:41 AM
I'm definitely getting my hands on this one... hopefully the following 3 sequels will get the same treatment later next year...

Grim
11-05-2008, 05:53 AM
Has anyone thought about what kind of horrid box art they will come up with? Maybe by some miracle they will stick with the classic artwork.

rhett
11-05-2008, 06:00 AM
Has anyone thought about what kind of horrid box art they will come up with? Maybe by some miracle they will stick with the classic artwork.
The first art is pretty classic - I can't see them diverging too much from that. And they're doing uncut, which nobody ever imagined the old Paramount would do, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here.

This is the best news I've heard all year though - I'll be getting each Friday on Blu-ray day and date. I can't wait to see these in high def. I just hope they don't stop at one.

BrokeNads
11-07-2008, 04:33 AM
I am for very excite from this. I am hug fan from this movies and I am kick myself basty because I am buy box set from dvd not long before and is editing versions from all the films! Is crazy! So is now what to do? Is good to buy again films one to one with new uncuts? or wait for ANOTHER box set of crazy uncut film editions? I curse this idea because I am to have to much copy from this films to own enought!! In the box! What is oponion from you guy? Also what movies from this is you wanted uncut? I am defnite want 1,2,3,4 and 6.

geeare
11-07-2008, 03:42 PM
more specs regarding the blu release: FRIDAY THE 13TH (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2028)

Matt89
11-07-2008, 03:50 PM
Wicked, some nice HD extras. And HD Master Audio. Nice.

~Matt

geeare
11-07-2008, 04:19 PM
and I see alot of the extras are called "part 1" so this can only mean that there are more Blu's to come. Well that and the fact that they state it, lol.

Stige
11-08-2008, 06:22 PM
2,35 wideescreen???????????

misprint?=

It's me, Billy
11-09-2008, 10:36 AM
I would absolutely love to have parts 1-6 on BD with their original cover art...and uncut and loaded with extras.

No more 2 films per disc. No more slim cases (with BD, this shouldn't be a problem) No more skimping on extras (at least one commentary track on each film) No more shitty photoshop covers (use the original VHS poster art) No more R-rated theatrical versions (if possible)

For once...Do it Right!

It's me, Billy
11-09-2008, 11:10 AM
2,35 wideescreen???????????

misprint?=

It has to be. Only Friday the 13th, Part III (and Freddy vs Jason for that matter) has an OAR of 2.35:1. All of the rest are 1.85:1.

Grim
11-09-2008, 06:11 PM
My friend said he saw Part 2 & 3 available in HD on the XBOX live marketplace, so that has me leaning towards the notion that they at least have HD prints for 2 &3 ready.

Horror_Boy
11-09-2008, 09:58 PM
I have been told that the Part 3 Release is also going to be available in 3D.

evileye
11-11-2008, 01:32 AM
The DVD will be in 3D. ANyone have an email for Paramounts Home Video customer service??

Zombie Dude
11-14-2008, 04:57 AM
Specs confirmation thanks to High Def Digest.com

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Paramount/Paramount_Confirms_Friday_the_13th_Blu-ray_Specs/2251

Full specs are now in, with the film receiving a BD-50 dual-layer presentation with 1080p video and (thanks to newly-discovered audio elements) an English Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround track. (Additional audio options include the original English Dolby 1.0 Mono, French and Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround dubs, and English, French and Spanish subtitles.)

Previously announced extras include audio Commentary by director Sean Cunningham, a suite of featurettes ( "Fresh Cuts: New Tales from Friday the 13th," "Man Behind the Legacy: Sean S. Cunningham," "Friday the 13th - Special Reunion," "Lost Tales from Camp Blood - Part 1") and the theatrical trailer. Newly announced are two additional featurettes, "The Friday the 13th Chronicles - Part 1" and "Secrets Galore Behind the Gore - Tom Savini on Part 1."

Matt89
11-14-2008, 05:16 AM
Hmmm...so they're carring over the specs from the boxset, and keeping the original titles...("Friday the 13th Chronicles - Part 1", etc) which leads me to believe Paramount is planning blu-ray releases for its sequels as well. I have little doubt in my mind that they're going to follow suit and release its sequels.

Already have it pre-ordered anyway.

Oh and I also found out (from a forum on blu-ray.com) that the new UK blu-ray of The Thing (with all the features from the DVD included) is going to be region-free, as the Danish release already is. Special features to be in 480p as well, so there's no problem watching them on an NTSC HDTV.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
11-14-2008, 05:20 AM
Hmmm...so they're carring over the specs from the boxset, and keeping the original titles...("Friday the 13th Chronicles - Part 1", etc) which leads me to believe Paramount is planning blu-ray releases for its sequels as well. I have little doubt in my mind that they're going to follow suit and release its sequels.

Already have it pre-ordered anyway.

~Matt

Well as far as I know they're planning to release Part 3 in 3D on Bluray, so I'm guessing we can expect Part 2 also.

Matt89
11-14-2008, 05:31 AM
Well, if the DVDs (parts 2 and 3) have new transfers we'll know for sure if a blu-ray is in the works.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
11-14-2008, 05:34 AM
Well, if the DVDs (parts 2 and 3) have new transfers we'll know for sure if a blu-ray is in the works.

~Matt

According to Amazon they will have new transfers. Looks like we can expect Bluray releases.

Horror_Boy
11-15-2008, 04:12 AM
I was told part 3 is DVD only and is in 3-d.

Horror_Boy
11-15-2008, 11:25 PM
Part 3 is supposed to be 3-d but DVD only....

Korngold
11-16-2008, 06:15 PM
According to Amazon they will have new transfers. Looks like we can expect Bluray releases.

Great, looks like another dip for the blu-ray parts II and III.


Also great avatar ZombieDude.

KR~!
11-16-2008, 06:20 PM
They are clearly testing the waters with part 1, so I guess they will decide based on the sales of that disc if they want to more forward with the rest.

Zombie Dude
11-17-2008, 12:22 AM
Also great avatar ZombieDude.
Thanks.:D Kids are just creepy.
They are clearly testing the waters with part 1, so I guess they will decide based on the sales of that disc if they want to more forward with the rest.
Maybe, but I don't think they're expecting bad sales. Especially with the unrated Part 1.

Horror_Boy
11-19-2008, 01:34 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Friday-13th-Blu-ray-Dana-Kimmell/dp/B001KQNZY6

Part 2 and 3 are gonna be released on Blu Ray Feb. 9th. Region 2 so where is the Region 1 release?

Zombie Dude
11-19-2008, 07:50 AM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Friday-13th-Blu-ray-Dana-Kimmell/dp/B001KQNZY6

Part 2 and 3 are gonna be released on Blu Ray Feb. 9th. Region 2 so where is the Region 1 release?

That's weird. Maybe Amazon.com is just slack and haven't updated their catalog yet.

Matt89
11-19-2008, 07:53 AM
Oh well, Paramount never region codes their blu-rays anyway. But FUCK YES PARAMOUNT! The best Friday film (part 2) is finally gonna hit high-def!

I just wanna see some cover art!

~Matt

Zombie Dude
11-19-2008, 07:57 AM
I just wanna see some cover art!

~Matt

Same. It should be hitting the web any day now...at least one would think.

rhett
11-19-2008, 08:46 AM
Well, with 2 and 3 at least hitting Blu-ray somewhere in the world it doesn't really make sense at all to get the DVDs for those who have already made the leap. Good news that will only get better with a Region A announcement.

grodd
12-04-2008, 06:34 PM
Cover art and full specs...

http://fridaythe13thfilms.com/blog/deluxe-friday-trilogy-cover-art-and-specs/

I can't wait to compare the HD versions from Monsters HD and the 3D Japanese version. (I've also got the original Japanese VHD disk) I wonder if they are going to remove the large black line that is seen right before that one girl (Marcie) gets an axe in the face.

Zombie Dude
12-06-2008, 04:31 AM
(I've also got the original Japanese VHD disk) I wonder if they are going to remove the large black line that is seen right before that one girl (Marcie) gets an axe in the face.

I don't recall a black like. We are talking about the original right?

Matt89
12-06-2008, 04:40 AM
I don't recall a black like. We are talking about the original right?

It was covered up on the Warner DVDs. It's definitely there on the original Paramount DVD, and was finally "digitally covered up" (but you can still kinda see it) on the boxed set version. It was there on all VHS versions too, just before Marcie pulls the curtain back. It's a thin black line that runs vertically up the left side of the screen.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
12-06-2008, 04:47 AM
It was covered up on the Warner DVDs. It's definitely there on the original Paramount DVD, and was finally "digitally covered up" (but you can still kinda see it) on the boxed set version. It was there on all VHS versions too, just before Marcie pulls the curtain back. It's a thin black line that runs vertically up the left side of the screen.

~Matt

That's why I wouldn't have seen it. I have the WB release.

mmyersisgod
12-07-2008, 09:05 PM
I am eagerly awaiting this.

Beastus
12-09-2008, 05:30 PM
Cover art for the UK Blu-ray's of part 2 and 3:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512CRYeATsL._SS500_.jpg


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51b9apnE91L._SS500_.jpg

KR~!
12-09-2008, 06:24 PM
looks promising

Grim
12-09-2008, 10:38 PM
Cover art for the UK Blu-ray's of part 2 and 3:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512CRYeATsL._SS500_.jpg


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51b9apnE91L._SS500_.jpg

Don't really see how they're any more faithful to the original covers, but whatever, it's the hip thing to do to rag on new covers of DVD's released in the states.

Matt89
12-09-2008, 10:42 PM
They look alright. Although, the font they used looks more like the Microsoft Word font than the actual Friday the 13th logo. (Look at the "TH" on the end of 13th.) Oh well, they're not so bad. I'll be getting these for sure. Just hope they're not region-coded.

~Matt

spawningblue
12-09-2008, 11:06 PM
I don't like those UK covers either. Looks like the Saw or Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 DVD covers.

Zombie Dude
12-10-2008, 12:57 AM
Cover art for the UK Blu-ray's of part 2 and 3:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512CRYeATsL._SS500_.jpg


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51b9apnE91L._SS500_.jpg

Not bad. At least it's something different.

Grim
12-10-2008, 03:11 AM
Not bad. At least it's something different.

See that's what I don't get. The US covers get blasted for not being the originals, yet the UK covers get praised for it.

Zombie Dude
12-10-2008, 03:21 AM
See that's what I don't get. The US covers get blasted for not being the originals, yet the UK covers get praised for it.

But the US covers were just mimicking the originals. I say either use the original or something totally different. UK went for something different and I don't mind it. The US covers basically befouled the original work.

grodd
12-12-2008, 06:24 PM
SO I take it these UK disks are not all region and will not play in a PS3?

Hopefully a US version will come soon.

Zombie Dude
12-15-2008, 01:58 AM
SO I take it these UK disks are not all region and will not play in a PS3?

Hopefully a US version will come soon.

It says region 2 on the Amazon site, but aren't Blu-ray's distinguished by letters not numbers?

Matt89
12-15-2008, 02:39 AM
SO I take it these UK disks are not all region and will not play in a PS3?

Hopefully a US version will come soon.

No, they should work. Paramount never region codes their blu-rays. (Neither do Universal or Warner).

~Matt

Zombie Dude
12-15-2008, 02:41 AM
No, they should work. Paramount never region codes their blu-rays. (Neither do Universal or Warner).

~Matt

I'm pretty sure Poltergeist is region coded though.

Matt89
12-15-2008, 02:42 AM
Nope. It's region-free. (If it's a North American release that has like a million subtitle options (like Poltergeist does) it's a pretty tell-tale sign that it's region-free)

~Matt

Zombie Dude
12-15-2008, 02:46 AM
Nope. It's region-free. (If it's a North American release that has like a million subtitle options (like Poltergeist does) it's a pretty tell-tale sign that it's region-free)

~Matt

Amazon is quite confusing then.

Matt89
12-15-2008, 02:50 AM
www.blu-ray.com (http://www.blu-ray.com)

Never trust amazon for shit like that. Sure the discs are meant for Region 'A', but that doesn't necessarily mean they're region coded for Region 'A'.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
12-15-2008, 02:58 AM
www.blu-ray.com (http://www.blu-ray.com)

Never trust amazon for shit like that. Sure the discs are meant for Region 'A', but that doesn't necessarily mean they're region coded for Region 'A'.

~Matt

Thanks.

Zombie Dude
12-15-2008, 03:02 AM
According to Blu-ray.com, Friday 2&3 are region B.

Katatonia
12-15-2008, 08:08 AM
I'm pretty sure Poltergeist is region coded though.

It's definitely Region-free coded. I just bought it the other night, and it looks damn amazing in hi-def. I though the recent DVD looked really nice, but this just blows me away.

Zombie Dude
12-15-2008, 09:11 AM
It's definitely Region-free coded. I just bought it the other night, and it looks damn amazing in hi-def. I though the recent DVD looked really nice, but this just blows me away.

Makes me wish I had a Blu-ray player.:(

Matt89
12-15-2008, 04:24 PM
According to Blu-ray.com, Friday 2&3 are region B.

That's only because they aren't completely certain that it's going to be region-free. When it's released, its region status will change.

~Matt

WrongTurnLover
12-16-2008, 05:26 AM
I can't wait to see the movie FINALLY Uncut and looking all great in Hi-Def.

Zombie Dude
12-16-2008, 06:37 AM
That's only because they aren't completely certain that it's going to be region-free. When it's released, its region status will change.

~Matt

Nice to know there's still hope.:D Hopefully those discs get reviewed.

Matt89
12-16-2008, 08:28 AM
I'd say right now there's about a 99.9% chance these'll be region-free. (Hell, I'd even say 100%) Paramount doesn't code their discs, and I don't see why Friday the 13th parts 2 and 3 should break the trend. Paramount owns them outright everywhere in the world. No reason to code them.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
12-16-2008, 08:56 AM
I'd say right now there's about a 99.9% chance these'll be region-free. (Hell, I'd even say 100%) Paramount doesn't code their discs, and I don't see why Friday the 13th parts 2 and 3 should break the trend. Paramount owns them outright everywhere in the world. No reason to code them.

~Matt

When you put it that way it makes sense. If they do own rights all over the world then region coding would be stupid.

marcx
12-31-2008, 06:35 PM
Is the part 3 import blu-ray in 3D? I see no mention on that cover art...

Dave
12-31-2008, 07:27 PM
Why the hell wouldn't they release these in the US? I remember when they first released the Fridays onto DVD they did two per year.

I enjoy the first couple but to me Jason doesn't really become Jason until Part 3 and above; those are really the ones I want.

Katatonia
01-01-2009, 12:49 AM
Is the part 3 import blu-ray in 3D? I see no mention on that cover art...

I'd love to know that also. I can't find anything else about it on the net. Something tells me it won't be in 3D though.

Zombie Dude
01-01-2009, 01:08 AM
Well Dread Central did post this article a while back: http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/exclusive-friday-13th-3-d-blu-ray

Katatonia
01-01-2009, 01:12 AM
Well Dread Central did post this article a while back: http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/exclusive-friday-13th-3-d-blu-ray

I've seen that before, but it mentions nothing about the R2 blu-ray release.

Zombie Dude
01-01-2009, 01:19 AM
I've seen that before, but it mentions nothing about the R2 blu-ray release.

I know but it means we could possibly see it coming to R1 Blu.

KillerCannabis
01-07-2009, 06:55 AM
Oh man am I glad I popped into this thread. I'm all over the UK discs if they turn out to be region-free.

Matt89
01-17-2009, 05:50 AM
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=2577&show=review

FIRST REVIEW IS UP! Fuck this looks awesome!

*The image quality on this really does look amazing. Looks like Paramount has finally released the definitive version of Friday the 13th.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
01-17-2009, 08:15 AM
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=2577&show=review

FIRST REVIEW IS UP! Fuck this looks awesome!

*The image quality on this really does look amazing. Looks like Paramount has finally released the definitive version of Friday the 13th.

~Matt

Wow, the blu-ray stills really do jump out at you. The night scenes look much better as well, a lot more detail to be seen. Impressive.

Stige
01-17-2009, 11:45 AM
was reading the bbfc homepage about thefriday the 13th releases and part three has about 40 minutes or so of bonus features.
http://bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/7227FCE521041D098025752100386A7D?OpenDocument

I was kind of wondering if maybe the bonus features which seem to be missing on the dvd 3D version are including here instead of the 3d version?

KillerCannabis
01-17-2009, 06:00 PM
^ That's what I'm gathering. Same thing with the Aussie DVD, which has more features than the U.S. edition. I may have to get the UK BD for the extras and the R1 for the 3-D.

SaviniFan
01-17-2009, 06:25 PM
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=2577&show=review

FIRST REVIEW IS UP! Fuck this looks awesome!

*The image quality on this really does look amazing. Looks like Paramount has finally released the definitive version of Friday the 13th.

~Matt

Agreed. This review has me excited for the release. Those stills are a MAJOR improvement over previous releases.

dickieduvet
01-17-2009, 07:29 PM
Can't wait for this, DVDLimited here in the Uk say they will have stock of this on Monday, They deliver next day too :fire:

Received Dead & Buried this morning and it looks loads better than the standard Dvd, Well done BU.

rhett
01-17-2009, 07:51 PM
Yeah, those stills do look beautiful. Grainy, but natural looking, and with that same sense of depth that makes the format so nice. I can't wait for this, and Paramount tells me my screeners are already shipped out. :banana:

Matt89
01-17-2009, 11:10 PM
I sure as shit hope the UK blu-rays are region-free. I've already pre-ordered them. I just couldn't wait lol. But Friday the 13th, Part 2 on blu? (Hell, it's better than Part 1!) It BETTER be region-free!!!

~Matt

Grim
01-17-2009, 11:45 PM
I was thinking about getting the UK blu-rays, but then as I was reading about the original Batman series being announced for an R1 release right around when I was considering getting the UK discs, I decided that they'll get released eventually here, and will probably be cheaper in the long run for me so I'll wait. Those screens for Part 1 looked sweet though. I will have that on release day.

Matt89
01-18-2009, 10:33 PM
Review #2 is up! (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews44/friday_the_13th_blu-ray.htm)

And apparently it's region A. I guess because Warner owns the foreign distribution rights. I still doubt Parts 2 and 3 will be region-locked, as Paramount owns the rights to those internationally.

~Matt

GizmoDVD
01-18-2009, 10:48 PM
I am going to set my LG 200 to Region B today so I'll check if F13 BD plays in it (I have it already).

dickieduvet
01-19-2009, 02:32 AM
I hope this is region free as my order is in :eek1:

Paramount haven't used region coding to my knowledge so far, Lets hope this won't start a trend.

dickieduvet
01-19-2009, 02:56 AM
Ok, Panic over, Just noticed the reviewer has also reviewed other Paramount and Universal discs and stated them as region A.

Fingers crossed.

dickieduvet
01-20-2009, 01:23 PM
Just tried it in my region B player and it works :D

Confirmed as region free.

Matt89
01-20-2009, 01:34 PM
That's awesome! Are you pre-ordering Parts 2 and 3 as well? If you are, can you check if those blu-rays are also region-free? :D

~Matt

dickieduvet
01-20-2009, 01:49 PM
That's awesome! Are you pre-ordering Parts 2 and 3 as well? If you are, can you check if those blu-rays are also region-free? :D

~Matt

Yeah, Got them on order, should be here on the 9th Feb or a little bit sooner.

Zombie Dude
01-20-2009, 02:19 PM
That's awesome! Are you pre-ordering Parts 2 and 3 as well? If you are, can you check if those blu-rays are also region-free? :D

~Matt

How will he know if they're region free? His player is made to play region B.:confused:

Matt89
01-20-2009, 02:28 PM
How will he know if they're region free? His player is made to play region B.:confused:

:lol: Haha wow, I DEFINITELY didn't think right there. My bad. :o For some reason I thought his player was region-free.

~Matt

Zombie Dude
01-23-2009, 10:33 AM
:lol: Haha wow, I DEFINITELY didn't think right there. My bad. :o For some reason I thought his player was region-free.

~Matt

:lol:It's cool. I just read over it and was like 'that can't be right?:confused:'.

SaviniFan
01-23-2009, 03:00 PM
Another review (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1919/friday13th1980.html).

Matt89
01-23-2009, 07:25 PM
Hmmmm...I agree with his opinion on the film itself, but DVDbeaver said the audio was outstanding, whereas Bracke said the audio here is "lacking". Bit of a contrast, I think. But we'll have to wait and see. And, with a commentary, documentaries and other special features in HD, this gets a "Worth a Look" rating? Sounds like a pretty perfect blu-ray to me. The uncut version of the film, with great image quality, a lossless HD audio mix (with the original mono included), a commentary, the trailer, and like I said before, various special features in HD, and he says it's not a perfect blu-ray. Sounds like a perfect upgrade to me...

~Matt

Grim
01-24-2009, 12:31 AM
Hmmmm...I agree with his opinion on the film itself, but DVDbeaver said the audio was outstanding, whereas Bracke said the audio here is "lacking". Bit of a contrast, I think. But we'll have to wait and see. And, with a commentary, documentaries and other special features in HD, this gets a "Worth a Look" rating? Sounds like a pretty perfect blu-ray to me. The uncut version of the film, with great image quality, a lossless HD audio mix (with the original mono included), a commentary, the trailer, and like I said before, various special features in HD, and he says it's not a perfect blu-ray. Sounds like a perfect upgrade to me...

~Matt

The thing I always find funny about Bracke's reviews of films in the slasher genre is that he pretty much talks them down and more or less states that he doesn't like them, yet he's the guy that wrote the Friday the 13th "Bible", Crystal Lake Memories.

Matt89
01-24-2009, 01:10 AM
The thing I always find funny about Bracke's reviews of films in the slasher genre is that he pretty much talks them down and more or less states that he doesn't like them, yet he's the guy that wrote the Friday the 13th "Bible", Crystal Lake Memories.

Yeah for real! I was reading that review and was like, "errr....what the hell!?" I dunno, I never really agree with anything he says. He used to run DVDfile, and I remember scoffing at many of his reviews. I wonder sometimes if he even watches the DVDs he reviews. There was one review on DVDfile when Flashdance was re-released as a SE. The review stated that the image quality was more or less the same than the previous disc. That couldn't be further from the truth. The movie was shockingly remastered. Between the new and old disc it was like night and day. It's like he misses the mark about 70% of the time with his reviews.

~Matt

Reverenddave
01-24-2009, 05:29 AM
It's hard to take Bracke's reviews too seriously. He pitched a hissy fit over the Halloween blu-ray. If you sort all the blu-ray reviews at that site by "Star Grade: Video", you'll see Halloween at the bottom of the list. His reviews have very little credibility with me.

Sinister Ash
01-31-2009, 10:08 PM
I don't know if anyone has posted this yet but F13 Uncut Blu-Ray/DVD is cropped.... :cry:

http://www.dvdfile.com/review/friday-the-13th-uncut-deluxe-edition-58247

Matt89
01-31-2009, 10:43 PM
WOW....that's pretty noticeable, actually. Then again, just checking it now, the R2 transfer from Warner is like a halfway point between that blu-ray still and the original 2004 transfer.

~Matt

Matt89
01-31-2009, 10:52 PM
*And just looked it over (there are other nice reviews of Parts 2 and 3 on there, with some really interesting info about the new 2-D transfer of Part 3) but those stills are all from the DVD. A lot of times with blu-ray compared to their DVD counterparts (even when taken from the same print source) the blu-ray actually shows a bit more room/reveals more info in the frame. I'll wait for my blu-ray to arrive and make my own judgment. :D

~Matt

Sinister Ash
02-01-2009, 09:20 AM
Please keep us posted Matt, I hope the cropping is not a problem on the blu ray disc.

Kolpitz
02-01-2009, 09:30 AM
*And just looked it over (there are other nice reviews of Parts 2 and 3 on there, with some really interesting info about the new 2-D transfer of Part 3) but those stills are all from the DVD. A lot of times with blu-ray compared to their DVD counterparts (even when taken from the same print source) the blu-ray actually shows a bit more room/reveals more info in the frame. I'll wait for my blu-ray to arrive and make my own judgment. :D

~Matt

This is the case with the Blu-ray for Repo! The Genetic Opera apparently. I only have the Blu-ray and can't do a comparison but the reviews I've read mention that the Blu-ray has more information on all four sides.

Reverenddave
02-01-2009, 03:33 PM
Here's a blu-ray review:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/ht-software-high-definition/282079-htf-blu-ray-review-friday-13th-uncut.html

Ash28M
02-01-2009, 04:49 PM
Here's a blu-ray review:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/ht-software-high-definition/282079-htf-blu-ray-review-friday-13th-uncut.html

I would take that review with a grain of salt.

Stige
02-01-2009, 05:22 PM
i never can understand these reviews one person says WOW and the other says barely visable and crap ............. two stars movies on certain sites ( terminator f ex) looked almost 3 d to me

Guess the only thing you can do is find out for yourself

Mutilated Prey
02-01-2009, 05:43 PM
I'm not concerned about all of this. I still say it's uncut and looks pretty friggin sweet from the screenshots:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=2577&show=screenshot (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=2577&show=screenshots)

Reverenddave
02-01-2009, 09:48 PM
Here's another blu-ray review:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/36072/friday-the-13th-1980/

Dave
02-01-2009, 10:31 PM
There's only one review that matters. The question is, when the hell is Rhett going to post it?

Matt89
02-01-2009, 10:37 PM
That hometheaterforum reviewer is an idiot (his comment on the film grain proves it). Friday the 13th has always looked AMAZING on the digital format. Sure it was low-budget, but even for a movie in general it's always looked fantastic. I remember when we first got a DVD player back in like 2000. Friday the 13th was the first DVD I ever bought and I remember being completely blown away, and that transfer still holds up really well.

"I'm not gonna slam it too hard because it is an older film"...yeah okay, almost NOTHING he said was positive.

~Matt

rhett
02-01-2009, 11:57 PM
There's only one review that matters. The question is, when the hell is Rhett going to post it?
Tonight, with any luck, with screenshots from the four different US releases.

Dave
02-02-2009, 12:02 AM
Tonight, with any luck, with screenshots from the four different US releases.

Stop dreaming about my ex and my sister and get it the fuck done! :banana:

old-boo-radley
02-02-2009, 12:09 AM
All these F13 re-releases look like major shit in terms of content. 19th dip and they still can't do everything right. The only thing of interest to me is Blu-ray quality, and I still wouldn't buy it on Blu for a long time, if ever. If 7 was released uncut on Blu, I would bite for sure, though.

But, every fan seems to be right along, moaning, rubbing their man breasts and aching for Paramount to brick on their faces once again. Fan commentaries and films? Is this Troma? Maybe if rhett did the commentary...

Katatonia
02-02-2009, 12:51 AM
Good news about the UK Blu-rays of 2 & 3. They will indeed be REGION FREE as all other UK Paramount Blu-rays have been in the past.

I've been informed of this by a friend on DVD Profiler who already has the discs, and he assures me that they are indeed not region coded.

Now, I'll place my order!!! :evil:

Matt89
02-02-2009, 01:01 AM
All these F13 re-releases look like major shit in terms of content.

Well part 3 is crap, but part 2 isn't bad (commentary would've made it perfect), and what's wrong with the content for part 1? Really, what more do people want?

~Matt

dave13
02-02-2009, 01:43 AM
Im down with the content for part 1, and the fact that its blu ray makes me want it. Part 2 seems to mostly be convention stuff, which honestly, bores the shit out of me. and part 3, which i enjoy, may be in 3d, which is cool, but the fact that we all know a commentary was released on the box set version, which isn't included really pisses me off. the only way i can see myself picking these up is if they were under $10.

gunner
02-02-2009, 03:22 AM
I'm a wannabe retro slasher blu-whore!! I'm no transfer expert, but I have to say that dvds & blu-ray transfers are as different as night and day...screen-shot comparisons don't work. I've been exposed to enough transfers of horror films over the years on every single home video format, to safely say blu-ray is the biggest leap yet in home video! vhs/beta & ced (remember those?) to laserdisc, then dvd was impressive, but blue-ray is something different, exciting...it simply unlocks the magic! So transfers like AB's Dawn of the Dead. There are times where grain appears, a zipper will flutter w/ edge enhancement, etc. It just simply doesn't matter!!! It's really hard for me to describe, but AB's blu gives you (the voyeuristic viewer) a never before seen imploded 3-D glimpse into the reality of Dawn of the Dead!! You notice things, like the brilliant lighting used in the airplane hanger that flyboy's checking out, the list goes on. If you've caught this on a high def satellite channel, forget it, check out the blu-ray, it simply takes the image and pops it!! Little fickle things like framing, I don't notice anymore...I watched The Shining (cropped) and my jaw was in my lap. I'm too busy staring at details I'd never thought about. It's even exciting to see a character light a cigarette, the smoke cloud looks like a real 3 dimensional smoke cloud!. But, to appreciate all this you must be viewing a film you've seen a million times, one you've absorbed. All these negative reviews are obviously from folks who really don't give a damn for Friday The 13th itself, and they review a lot of modern flawless transfers. Every comment from Friday fans are very positive. My part 1 blu should be in tomorrows mail!!! And next week, if this new transfer for Friday pt 3 really is from a slightly alternate angle + being on blu-ray, I might have a heart attack!!
Thanks for the info Katatonia!!! WooHoo!!

Grim
02-02-2009, 03:35 AM
I just canceled my order for Part 2 after thinking about it for awhile. The features aren't all that enticing and quite frankly, this will mark the third time I have bought the film on DVD, so I'd rather just wait for the blu-ray release. Part 1 is blu so I'm still getting that and Part 3 being in 3-D is neat enough for me to justify plopping $12 on it, even I'll end up buying it again on blu a couple months down the road.

vampyr789
02-02-2009, 03:46 AM
(From the DVDFile review)
" Many were hoping to see more of the archery set up with a silhouetted Pamela drawing a bow and arrow upon Brendaís confusion, but thatís not here (and maybe the extended scene is an urban myth). Nor is one victimís termination included, nor is the rolling of another victimís head down the lakeside."

i never heard of this before... really i never had. :confused:

Ash J. Williams
02-02-2009, 04:36 AM
My review:

http://justpressplay.net/movie-reviews/929-dvd-reviews/4717-Friday-the-13th-Uncut-Blu-Ray.html

Grim
02-02-2009, 04:58 AM
(From the DVDFile review)
" Many were hoping to see more of the archery set up with a silhouetted Pamela drawing a bow and arrow upon Brendaís confusion, but thatís not here (and maybe the extended scene is an urban myth). Nor is one victimís termination included, nor is the rolling of another victimís head down the lakeside."

i never heard of this before... really i never had. :confused:

There's been rumors about Bill's death actual being filmed. Something that happens in the generator room, but I specifically remember Cunningham stating that basically every scene they shot is in the film (regardless of what violence was trimmed for various releases) so going by that, I bet they're all just hearsay created by fans over the last thirty years.

Then again, George Romero sometimes doesn't remember anything about shooting the original ending of Dawn of the Dead, yet Savini has pictures that show they at least did test shots for it.

Zombie Dude
02-02-2009, 05:38 AM
Tonight, with any luck, with screenshots from the four different US releases.
Nice. I looks forward to it.:)
(From the DVDFile review)
" Many were hoping to see more of the archery set up with a silhouetted Pamela drawing a bow and arrow upon Brendaís confusion, but thatís not here (and maybe the extended scene is an urban myth). Nor is one victimís termination included, nor is the rolling of another victimís head down the lakeside."

i never heard of this before... really i never had. :confused:

You're not the only one.:confused:

Matt89
02-02-2009, 12:15 PM
(From the DVDFile review)
" Many were hoping to see more of the archery set up with a silhouetted Pamela drawing a bow and arrow upon Brendaís confusion, but thatís not here (and maybe the extended scene is an urban myth). Nor is one victimís termination included, nor is the rolling of another victimís head down the lakeside."

i never heard of this before... really i never had. :confused:

Brenda's death is pretty detailed (along with Ned's) in the book.

~Matt

evileye
02-02-2009, 03:35 PM
Good news about the UK Blu-rays of 2 & 3. They will indeed be REGION FREE as all other UK Paramount Blu-rays have been in the past.

I've been informed of this by a friend on DVD Profiler who already has the discs, and he assures me that they are indeed not region coded.

Now, I'll place my order!!! :evil:


Amen! Did he give you any impressions on the picture/audio quality. I'm surprised there are no reviews out yet.

Stige
02-02-2009, 03:47 PM
mine haven't been sent yet, probably won't be before the release date 09.02

In Norway the blurays are being released 04.02 hope I can wait

Grim
02-02-2009, 04:13 PM
Brenda's death is pretty detailed (along with Ned's) in the book.

~Matt

Are you referring to the Bracke book or a novelization of the film? I read that quote from Cunningham from the Bracke book.

gunner
02-03-2009, 12:14 AM
Well, I received my Friday the 13th blu-ray today. And, I love the transfer!! The new 1080p transfer reveals some grain that's never been seen before, but it also reveals much more detail than has ever been seen before, even during the grainy times! There is plenty of depth to the image, and the colors look far more natural. Plenty of wow moments for me...very poppy!! But I must say...if you thought Kevin Bacon's uncut death looked too fake on WB's remastered import dvd, wait until you see it on blu-ray!!! Lol!!!
I also received pt 2 & 3-D on dvd, these transfers were checked out after the blu-ray was viewed. They both look nice, but I can't wait for the UK blu-rays to arrive! It was obvious I was watching dvds.

Matt89
02-03-2009, 03:06 AM
Are you referring to the Bracke book or a novelization of the film? I read that quote from Cunningham from the Bracke book.

The Simon Hawke novel. It's actually pretty decent for a movie tie-in. Parts 2 and 3 are pretty good too. They give extra details as to the deaths of many of the characters. Unlike most movie tie-ins, they're actually a pretty good read.

~Matt

rhett
02-03-2009, 11:15 AM
My review is up. (http://horrordigital.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=734) Fuck, this took me forever. Considering the controversy, and the differences between all the releases, this definitely warranted the extra effort.

Given the cropping issue, I think some major petitioning needs to be put into place. It's pretty bad, and if we do something soon enough perhaps Paramount will do something about it.

Zombie Dude
02-03-2009, 11:24 AM
My review is up. (http://horrordigital.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=734) Fuck, this took me forever. Considering the controversy, and the differences between all the releases, this definitely warranted the extra effort.

Given the cropping issue, I think some major petitioning needs to be put into place. It's pretty bad, and if we do something soon enough perhaps Paramount will do something about it.

Just read over it. Shame about the cropping.
Also, Kevin Bacon's death looks horribly fake on blu.:(

old-boo-radley
02-03-2009, 11:30 AM
Just read over it. Shame about the cropping.
Also, Kevin Bacon's death looks horribly fake on blu.:(

Them's the breaks with Blu. I think a Hell of the Living Dead Blu could be hilarious, DVD made those effects look supremely fake, imagine with the added clarity of HD!

I can't believe they fucked up the cropping that bad, I'm shocked. Wait, no I'm not. Glad Rhett pointed it out because I don't think any other sites caught it, did they?

Zombie Dude
02-03-2009, 11:35 AM
Them's the breaks with Blu. I think a Hell of the Living Dead Blu could be hilarious, DVD made those effects look supremely fake, imagine with the added clarity of HD!

I can't believe they fucked up the cropping that bad, I'm shocked. Wait, no I'm not. Glad Rhett pointed it out because I don't think any other sites caught it, did they?

I think one other site made mention of the cropping.

I'm not sure if the blu release is worth it anyway.

old-boo-radley
02-03-2009, 11:59 AM
I think one other site made mention of the cropping.

I'm not sure if the blu release is worth it anyway.

I wasn't going to get the Blu anyways (if I ever do, it'll be a box set), but I wouldn't mind a Blu-ray of Joe D'Amato's Absurd! ;)

Zombie Dude
02-03-2009, 12:02 PM
I wasn't going to get the Blu anyways (if I ever do, it'll be a box set), but I wouldn't mind a Blu-ray of Joe D'Amato's Absurd! ;)

You know, I created that petition and still have yet to actually see the film.:lol: I just like Anthropophagus and though Absurd had a right to be on dvd with a nice looking transfer too.

gore
02-03-2009, 12:19 PM
My review is up. (http://horrordigital.com/viewarticle.php?articleid=734) Fuck, this took me forever. Considering the controversy, and the differences between all the releases, this definitely warranted the extra effort.

Given the cropping issue, I think some major petitioning needs to be put into place. It's pretty bad, and if we do something soon enough perhaps Paramount will do something about it.

That sucks. I wont buy it. But everyone else will, thus spoon feeding paramount cash once again for lackluster shit.

Reverenddave
02-03-2009, 12:25 PM
Here's one more blu-ray review:

http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/friday-the-13th/6720

Matt89
02-03-2009, 12:32 PM
That sucks. I wont buy it. But everyone else will, thus spoon feeding paramount cash once again for lackluster shit.

Fuck, my pre-order shipped last night. I mean to bitch about the slight cropping on the My Bloody Valentine DVD is just being way too fucking picky, but here...wow this actually is quite significant. Not that the movie had great cinematography or anything, but still, it's not framed properly, and even moreso...it's cropped 11%? Ouch. I'm seriously thinking of returning my blu-ray when I get it. This is bad.

Seriously, I'm shocked, considering this is Paramount here. Sure they've never been that great with special features, but they always have been great with image quality. I mean, you get the odd DVD with subpar image quality (which is usually inherent in the way the movie was filmed), but a vast majority of their releases are great in the A/V department.

Also, Kevin Bacon's death looks horribly fake on blu.:(

Kevin Bacon's death always looked like crap. That's the one murder in the film that benefits from being cut.

But looking at those stills (aside from the cropping) it's interesting to see how far DVD mastering has come since 1999. I remember being blown away by the old DVD when I first got it, but by comparison, they look like crap.

Oh and rhett, your DVD/blu-rays were free, right? They were screeners? God I hope so...

~Matt

gunner
02-03-2009, 02:02 PM
I did notice some cropping, like when Annie pets the dog by the gas pump, the "S" was cut off from the Sunday Papers sign in the background. But I really didn't notice anything too poorly marred by the cropping. You can still see the totem pole beside the Camp Crystal Lake sign. But as with the cropped blu-ray of The Shining, I'm too busy staring at other things in the frame that I'd never seen before to notice how it's framed. Maybe after 10 more viewings. But regardless, it's still an exciting transfer to view, rented or owned. I doubt I'll ever view the properly framed dvds again. I'm glad I own it. And, if Paramount ever does release an improved blu-ray, I'll get that too!!

I just heard a little bit of unexpected negative news on the Friday 2 & 3 UK blu-ray discs. Apparently the 1080p film & features will play on US players. But the standard definition features (which are in pal) will not play. I had never thought of this, but it does make sense.

Matt89
02-03-2009, 03:25 PM
I did notice some cropping, like when Annie pets the dog by the gas pump, the "S" was cut off from the Sunday Papers sign in the background. But I really didn't notice anything too poorly marred by the cropping. You can still see the totem pole beside the Camp Crystal Lake sign. But as with the cropped blu-ray of The Shining, I'm too busy staring at other things in the frame that I'd never seen before to notice how it's framed. Maybe after 10 more viewings. But regardless, it's still an exciting transfer to view, rented or owned. I doubt I'll ever view the properly framed dvds again. I'm glad I own it. And, if Paramount ever does release an improved blu-ray, I'll get that too!!

I just heard a little bit of unexpected negative news on the Friday 2 & 3 UK blu-ray discs. Apparently the 1080p film & features will play on US players. But the standard definition features (which are in pal) will not play. I had never thought of this, but it does make sense.

Are you sure? I don't think Paramount uses PAL for its standard-def features. I thought they were always in 480p (much like Warner's and Universal's standard def features internationally), not 576p.

~Matt

Stige
02-03-2009, 03:31 PM
oh well sent and paid for so I guess I will be happy, hoping the UK blu'a aren't cropped as well

is this what they meant by brand new transfers?

shithead
02-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Are Parts 2 and 3 cropped this badly as well?

gunner
02-03-2009, 04:04 PM
I don't think part 2 & 3 are cropped. I scanned through the dvds last night and they seemed ok. But then again, framing (as long as it isn't as severe as pan & scan) isn't an important thing with me. I wasn't bothered at all by Back to the Future's famous mis-framings on the boxset. Though, I have read in one of the reviews linked above that part 3's transfer was taken from a slightly alternate camera angle. I thought I would notice this, but I didn't. 2's new dvd transfer is very similar (if not the same?) as the original dvds, but 3's transfer is very different, much brighter. I've never seen Jason's hockey mask in such detail before, but it's also very flat & dirty looking. I can't wait to see the UK blu-rays. I'm hoping their both drastic improvements.
And Matt89, I'm not sure at all about the blu-ray pal/ntsc features claim. It was posted and agreed to on another forum. The posts sounded convincing, but who knows. I sure hope your right!! Inaccessible special features would be a big downer. I'll be sure to report as soon as they arrive!!

spawningblue
02-03-2009, 05:31 PM
I wonder why wouldn't they release a two disc version and include the theatrical and uncut version, especially on Blu Ray? As cool as it is to finally own the uncut version, it sounds like in some cases the theatrical version is better, especially concerning Bacon's death. Maybe when they release the box set they'll include both.

Either way I am holding out until they release a box set on Blu Ray with all the movies. As much as I love the films, I can hold out, especially with the first film being cropped so much, hopefully they fix that by the time they do a box set. I am really getting sick of Paramounts treatment of the franchise though. It made their company so much money and they are embarrassed by it. Makes no sense to me. All of these movie should have been two disc sets, that way we could have the theatrical version of part one, and extras for part 3.

Reverenddave
02-03-2009, 05:51 PM
I just heard a little bit of unexpected negative news on the Friday 2 & 3 UK blu-ray discs. Apparently the 1080p film & features will play on US players. But the standard definition features (which are in pal) will not play. I had never thought of this, but it does make sense.

This wouldn't surprise me. It's a common problem with SD extras on UK blu-ray imports.

rhett
02-03-2009, 06:53 PM
Are Parts 2 and 3 cropped this badly as well?
No, this looks to be only a problem with the first film.

Kolpitz
02-03-2009, 07:03 PM
I just looked over the shots in the review, and I gotta say, they're not that bad. Look, I'm not saying that cropping an image is okay. It isn't and Paramount should've know better. But, that being said, Rhett and the rest of you are making it out to seem like the film is now unwatchable in it's current cropped state. Rhett even goes so far as to give the video a "D"! I haven't watched the new transfer yet but if these shots are supposed to represent the worst of the cropping, then they've failed to dissuade me from purchasing the Blu-ray. Like the mis-framed transfers of Back to the Future 2 & 3, this is something I probably wouldn't have noticed until it was pointed out to me. If Paramount does offer a free replacement plan, I'll send my disc in. If not, then I can't imagine myself being disappointed by this transfer.

rhett
02-03-2009, 07:20 PM
I just looked over the shots in the review, and I gotta say, they're not that bad. Look, I'm not saying that cropping an image is okay. It isn't and Paramount should've know better. But, that being said, Rhett and the rest of you are making it out to seem like the film is now unwatchable in it's current cropped state. Rhett even goes so far as to give the video a "D"! I haven't watched the new transfer yet but if these shots are supposed to represent the worst of the cropping, then they've failed to dissuade me from purchasing the Blu-ray. Like the mis-framed transfers of Back to the Future 2 & 3, this is something I probably wouldn't have noticed until it was pointed out to me. If Paramount does offer a free replacement plan, I'll send my disc in. If not, then I can't imagine myself being disappointed by this transfer.

Hey, I'm clear to point out that in many ways this is a beautiful transfer. There is no way I can just roll over and condone a severely cropped picture. Otherwise, why not just accept pan and scan? There is a glaring, unexplained modification to the picture - this is not the way it was meant to be seen. How can I saddle it with anything other than a failing grade? It's our job to raise a stink on forums like this, because it's us aficionados that make things right; Joesixpack certainly wouldn't notice. They may not be able to tell, but they'd certainly feel that this is a much poorer shot film than it actually is. The symmetry and composition of so many scenes are compromised. Shots that adhered to the rule of thirds no longer do (where did that tree top go in my screen caps?) and suddenly the rule of not cutting on the joints is broken when hands get mangled by the zoomed frame.

I was as excited for this release as many were and are, and I know it's tough to deny oneself the pleasure of seeing it in HD because of a cropping issue. But it is an issue, and if you're supporting it in dollars, then don't expect any quality control on the re-issues of the rest of the films to come. We've waited ten years for a proper special edition of the first film - certainly we can wait a bit longer for them to fix it.

Grim
02-03-2009, 07:29 PM
I just watched mine and didn't even realize anything was cropped until I saw the comparison shots in Rhett's review. The cropping shouldn't have been done, but its really not that noticeable unless you stack it side-by-side with an uncropped version. I know I'm not helping the cause by buying this release, but I think OVERALL, this is the best the film has looked. Being the dedicated fan I am, though, I'll buy into Paramount's marketing schemes and more than likely buy another blu-ray with the proper framing if released and sell off my old copy. Like I said, I accept my guilt in not helping us get the best possible release from Paramount, but I'll be satisfied with this for the time being.

spawningblue
02-03-2009, 07:29 PM
Hey, I'm clear to point out that in many ways this is a beautiful transfer. There is no way I can just roll over and condone a severely cropped picture. Otherwise, why not just accept pan and scan? There is a glaring, unexplained modification to the picture - this is not the way it was meant to be seen. How can I saddle it with anything other than a failing grade? It's our job to raise a stink on forums like this, because it's us aficionados that make things right; Joesixpack certainly wouldn't notice. They may not be able to tell, but they'd certainly feel that this is a much poorer shot film than it actually is. The symmetry and composition of so many scenes are compromised. Shots that adhered to the rule of thirds no longer do (where did that tree top go in my screen caps?) and suddenly the rule of not cutting on the joints is broken when hands get mangled by the zoomed frame.

I was as excited for this release as many were and are, and I know it's tough to deny oneself the pleasure of seeing it in HD because of a cropping issue. But it is an issue, and if you're supporting it in dollars, then don't expect any quality control on the re-issues of the rest of the films to come. We've waited ten years for a proper special edition of the first film - certainly we can wait a bit longer for them to fix it.

Agreed. I will hold out, hopefully they will fix the disc what what they did with the Back to the Future discs.

Angelman
02-03-2009, 07:35 PM
Hey, I'm clear to point out that in many ways this is a beautiful transfer. There is no way I can just roll over and condone a severely cropped picture. Otherwise, why not just accept pan and scan? There is a glaring, unexplained modification to the picture - this is not the way it was meant to be seen. How can I saddle it with anything other than a failing grade? It's our job to raise a stink on forums like this, because it's us aficionados that make things right; Joesixpack certainly wouldn't notice. They may not be able to tell, but they'd certainly feel that this is a much poorer shot film than it actually is. The symmetry and composition of so many scenes are compromised. Shots that adhered to the rule of thirds no longer do (where did that tree top go in my screen caps?) and suddenly the rule of not cutting on the joints is broken when hands get mangled by the zoomed frame.

I was as excited for this release as many were and are, and I know it's tough to deny oneself the pleasure of seeing it in HD because of a cropping issue. But it is an issue, and if you're supporting it in dollars, then don't expect any quality control on the re-issues of the rest of the films to come. We've waited ten years for a proper special edition of the first film - certainly we can wait a bit longer for them to fix it.

Agreed.

What baffles me is that of all DVD buyers genre fans are the most fickle and most likely to pick things apart... so... how does this happen? Seriously?

Kolpitz
02-03-2009, 07:37 PM
There is a glaring, unexplained modification to the picture - this is not the way it was meant to be seen.

It may be unexplained by Paramount but we all know why they did it. It's become a common occurence with Blu-rays and newer DVDs. It's what I like to call "HD Pan & Scan." Because HDTV's native aspect ratio is 1.78:1 and not 1.85:1, almost all Blu-rays are cropped to 1.78:1 from their original 1.85:1. Seriously, when was the last time you saw a newer release that had small black bars at the top and bottom to compensate for the extra picture that 1.85:1 offers. I can't think of any. They're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1, even when they say 1.85:1 on the back. With that in mind, should we boycott all newer "flat" films because they're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1? I suppose we could but that would mean missing out on A LOT of films on home video. As I pointed out, I'm not saying that the cropping isn't bad or that it's acceptable, per se. I would never send Paramount a letter thanking them for cropping the image. But, I just don't think, judging from the screenshots, that the cropping is "boycott bad." Send them e-mails, sure, and maybe, just maybe, they'll do a proper transfer but I doubt it. If we all boycott this release, we'll just be stuck waiting and waiting and waiting. And, while we're at it, let's send e-mails to every company who's ever released a 1.85:1 film in 1.78:1 and then do some more waiting. I just think that we tend to make mountains out of molehills all the time.

- They're releasing the uncut My Bloody Valentine footage as deleted scenes! Oh wait, now it's in the film ... BUT NOT ALL OF IT! And it's slightly cropped! Lionsgate sucks! Forget that we've been waiting 28 years for this release, we must bitch!

- Mausoleum is edited and the full frame image showed more gore! The VHS was uncut! It wasn't? Oh, well the UK DVD was! And there was more gore! Sure, if it were in full frame, we'd bitch too but that's beside the point!

- All these Media Blasters releases are missing gore from the full frame Japanese laserdiscs! I hate Media Blasters!

Those are just a few of the bitch sessions that I've been privy to and can think of off the top of my head. Hell, I've been part of them and I'm ashamed of myself. We can never just be happy for what we're given. We always have to dig as deep as possible to find flaws in every single release. This isn't meant to insult anyone on here so I apologize ahead of time if I offend anyone. As I've said, I'm just as guilty as anyone else. And, surely, Rhett, as a reviewer, it's your job to call out Paramount. It's my job as a consumer and reader to come to my own conclusion. And my conclusion is that the cropping isn't bad enough to boycott the Blu-ray and that your "D" rating was a bit harsh.

With all that out of the way, I'll still be sending an e-mail to Paramount and for anyone else who would like to do the same, here's the only e-mail address I could find:

PHE_CustomerService@Paramount.com

Grim
02-03-2009, 07:45 PM
One thing I noticed that I thought was really cool, but I guess really wouldn't be good for someone who is going into the first film without any prior knowledge of the series (which I think is basically impossible), is that in the scene where Ned notices somebody walking into a cabin, in this release you can clearly distinguish that it's Pamela (or at least a light-haired woman) in a slicker walking in the cabin. At least its the first time I've noticed it.

Angelman
02-03-2009, 07:49 PM
It may be unexplained by Paramount but we all know why they did it. It's become a common occurence with Blu-rays and newer DVDs. It's what I like to call "HD Pan & Scan." Because HDTV's native aspect ratio is 1.78:1 and not 1.85:1, almost all Blu-rays are cropped to 1.78:1 from their original 1.85:1. Seriously, when was the last time you saw a newer release that had small black bars at the top and bottom to compensate for the extra picture that 1.85:1 offers. I can't think of any. They're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1, even when they say 1.85:1 on the back. With that in mind, should we boycott all newer "flat" films because they're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1? I suppose we could but that would mean missing out on A LOT of films on home video. As I pointed out, I'm not saying that the cropping isn't bad or that it's acceptable, per se. I would never send Paramount a letter thanking them for cropping the image. But, I just don't think, judging from the screenshots, that the cropping is "boycott bad." Send them e-mails, sure, and maybe, just maybe, they'll do a proper transfer but I doubt it. If we all boycott this release, we'll just be stuck waiting and waiting and waiting. And, while we're at it, let's send e-mails to every company who's ever released a 1.85:1 film in 1.78:1 and then do some more waiting. I just think that we tend to make mountains out of molehills all the time.

- They're releasing the uncut My Bloody Valentine footage as deleted scenes! Oh wait, now it's in the film ... BUT NOT ALL OF IT! And it's slightly cropped! Lionsgate sucks! Forget that we've been waiting 28 years for this release, we must bitch!

- Mausoleum is edited and the full frame image showed more gore! The VHS was uncut! It wasn't? Oh, well the UK DVD was! And there was more gore! Sure, if it were in full frame, we'd bitch too but that's beside the point!

- All these Media Blasters releases are missing gore from the full frame Japanese laserdiscs! I hate Media Blasters!

Those are just a few of the bitch sessions that I've been privy to and can think of off the top of my head. Hell, I've been part of them and I'm ashamed of myself. We can never just be happy for what we're given. We always have to dig as deep as possible to find flaws in every single release. This isn't meant to insult anyone on here so I apologize ahead of time if I offend anyone. As I've said, I'm just as guilty as anyone else. And, surely, Rhett, as a reviewer, it's your job to call out Paramount. It's my job as a consumer and reader to come to my own conclusion. And my conclusion is that the cropping isn't bad enough to boycott the Blu-ray and that your "D" rating was a bit harsh.

With all that out of the way, I'll still be sending an e-mail to Paramount and for anyone else who would like to do the same, here's the only e-mail address I could find:

PHE_CustomerService@Paramount.com

I think I disagree. We are consumers, they make product. They want to sell us $30 Blu-Rays in a bad economy. I think they can go the extra mile to get it right. If you got a car that had all these malfunctions you would call it a lemon.

Kolpitz
02-03-2009, 07:51 PM
I think I disagree. We are consumers, they make product. They want to sell us $30 Blu-Rays in a bad economy. I think they can go the extra mile to get it right. If you got a car that had all these malfunctions you would call it a lemon.

Agree or disagree, I just sent them an e-mail anyway. We'll see if I'm proven wrong.

rhett
02-03-2009, 07:54 PM
It may be unexplained by Paramount but we all know why they did it. It's become a common occurence with Blu-rays and newer DVDs. It's what I like to call "HD Pan & Scan." Because HDTV's native aspect ratio is 1.78:1 and not 1.85:1, almost all Blu-rays are cropped to 1.78:1 from their original 1.85:1. Seriously, when was the last time you saw a newer release that had small black bars at the top and bottom to compensate for the extra picture that 1.85:1 offers. I can't think of any. They're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1, even when they say 1.85:1 on the back. With that in mind, should we boycott all newer "flat" films because they're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1?
You should know what I'm going to say here, but I'll say it anyway. There's a big difference between a 3.8% discrepancy on the top and bottom of the frame between 1.78 and 1.85 and a 10.6% zoom in on all sides of the frame with conscious choices of new bits of framing and composition. And you're not entirely correct in stating that all 1.78 transfers are crops of 1.85. Prints are most often made in 4-perf, 35mm format with a 1.37:1 aspect ratio of exposed negative. It's the job of the projectionist, or the telecine operator when it comes to video transfer, to place in a plate that mattes off the image to the desired (usually 1.85) ratio. So with the extra negative space on the top and bottom, that 3.8%, more often than not, is actually gained footage that would normally be matted with black bars. Again, with this new FRIDAY THE 13TH transfer, we're losing 10.6%, and someone has clearly made arbitrary changes to the composition.


- Mausoleum is edited and the full frame image showed more gore! The VHS was uncut! It wasn't? Oh, well the UK DVD was! And there was more gore! Sure, if it were in full frame, we'd bitch too but that's beside the point!

- All these Media Blasters releases are missing gore from the full frame Japanese laserdiscs! I hate Media Blasters!
Full frame vs. widescreen loss of top and bottom picture is a definite grey area. Look at all the problems with BLACK CHRISTMAS over the years. There is nothing grey about Paramount needlessly cropping this footage and destroying the compositions.


I've forwarded Paramount this thread along with my review, so either way, please make your opinions known for them to see.

Kolpitz
02-03-2009, 08:01 PM
I included a link to your review in my e-mail.

Angelman
02-03-2009, 08:04 PM
Agree or disagree, I just sent them an e-mail anyway. We'll see if I'm proven wrong.

For the record, your point was not lost on me either. We ARE whiny nerds.

gunner
02-03-2009, 08:22 PM
I agree with both sides. As to why Paramount would zoom in? Who knows! One thing I did notice on Paramount's original dvd release was a very noticeable discoloration across the top edge of the frame. Could it be the elements they used for this latest transfer suffered from this discoloration on multiple edges of the frame? Maybe they had to zoom in? I don't know.
Despite me defending the new blu-ray transfer (it still kicks ass), I totally see where Rhett coming from on destruction of compositions. Though the grading should be "Incomplete?" not D...D sounds harsh. Like from a mean professor you want to injure.
Another tidbit about the newly seen details in the film. The exaggerated hand paddling Alice does in the canoe after the battle finale. I had never seen this before. It's eerie!!

Kolpitz
02-03-2009, 09:02 PM
I also sent an e-mail to Bill Hunt over at The Digital Bits. He always seems to be able to get to the bottom of these issues. And, that's the site where I always find out about replacement plans, if Paramount decides to do so.

Sam Loomis
02-03-2009, 09:09 PM
It's possible that for the 1999 transfer, they used more of the negative than was intended.

If you look at the caps from the recent transfer, it seems that the shots are more tightly framed with the subjects being more prominent.

I think the only shot that looks noticably inferior is the shot of Alice in the hospital where you can't see the sherif's hand on her shoulder.

gore
02-03-2009, 11:07 PM
Heads up!

When I picked up the f13 documentary and was looking at the blueray of part1 I noticed two of the three copies had really blurry cover art on the back. Holding it next to the good copy it was very noticable. Same thing at best buy (they didnt have the doc.) . So if you are buying this in the store ( i didnt) and this sort of thing would bug you ( it would me ), keep an eye out ;)

rhett
02-03-2009, 11:20 PM
It's possible that for the 1999 transfer, they used more of the negative than was intended.

If you look at the caps from the recent transfer, it seems that the shots are more tightly framed with the subjects being more prominent.

I think the only shot that looks noticably inferior is the shot of Alice in the hospital where you can't see the sherif's hand on her shoulder.

There are plenty more examples throughout the film of how the zooming cuts out important information. It's clear, by the way that the zooming moves from shot to shot (it cuts off more of the top in the Annie/Lakeside shots, yet cuts out more of the bottom on the Steve Christie/Bed shots). Even if more of the usable print was shown on the 1999 DVD, there is no way it would be consciously cropped like that for exhibition. A 1.85 matte would be thrown on, and that's how it would be.

Matt89
02-04-2009, 12:48 AM
It may be unexplained by Paramount but we all know why they did it. It's become a common occurence with Blu-rays and newer DVDs. It's what I like to call "HD Pan & Scan." Because HDTV's native aspect ratio is 1.78:1 and not 1.85:1, almost all Blu-rays are cropped to 1.78:1 from their original 1.85:1. Seriously, when was the last time you saw a newer release that had small black bars at the top and bottom to compensate for the extra picture that 1.85:1 offers. I can't think of any. They're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1, even when they say 1.85:1 on the back. With that in mind, should we boycott all newer "flat" films because they're all slightly cropped to 1.78:1? I suppose we could but that would mean missing out on A LOT of films on home video. As I pointed out, I'm not saying that the cropping isn't bad or that it's acceptable, per se. I would never send Paramount a letter thanking them for cropping the image. But, I just don't think, judging from the screenshots, that the cropping is "boycott bad." Send them e-mails, sure, and maybe, just maybe, they'll do a proper transfer but I doubt it. If we all boycott this release, we'll just be stuck waiting and waiting and waiting. And, while we're at it, let's send e-mails to every company who's ever released a 1.85:1 film in 1.78:1 and then do some more waiting. I just think that we tend to make mountains out of molehills all the time.

No, actually, movies don't get CROPPED from 1.85:1 to 1.78:1, they're more OPENED UP. That was just a rare case with My Bloody Valentine. The last time I saw a blu-ray with actual 1.85:1? Pineapple Express, Burn After Reading, Carrie...

And Friday the 13th, Part 2 proves that studios are OPENING up films from 1.85:1 to 1.78:1. The new disc is 1.78 and still has more image. I kindof like it, it fits the screen better. I dunno, aspect ratios are so fiddly. 1.78:1 is so close to 1.85:1 that you hardly notice the difference. Either you get tiny thin black lines on your TV or you get the movie opened up a bit and it completely fills the 16x9 frame. They're opened up, not zoomed.

~Matt

Matt89
02-04-2009, 12:50 AM
There are plenty more examples throughout the film of how the zooming cuts out important information. It's clear, by the way that the zooming moves from shot to shot (it cuts off more of the top in the Annie/Lakeside shots, yet cuts out more of the bottom on the Steve Christie/Bed shots). Even if more of the usable print was shown on the 1999 DVD, there is no way it would be consciously cropped like that for exhibition. A 1.85 matte would be thrown on, and that's how it would be.

Yeah it's true, someone definitely fucked it up then. Matting the movie just removes picture information from the top and bottom of the frame ONLY, stuff you were never meant to see anyway, not picture info from the sides. The transfer was definitely botched. I'll check my blu-ray and see how pleased I am with it. I'll probably end up keeping it, because if Paramount does a recall, chances are I'll get a free replacement disc.

~Matt

Kolpitz
02-04-2009, 12:53 AM
You should know what I'm going to say here, but I'll say it anyway. There's a big difference between a 3.8% discrepancy on the top and bottom of the frame between 1.78 and 1.85 and a 10.6% zoom in on all sides of the frame with conscious choices of new bits of framing and composition. And you're not entirely correct in stating that all 1.78 transfers are crops of 1.85. Prints are most often made in 4-perf, 35mm format with a 1.37:1 aspect ratio of exposed negative. It's the job of the projectionist, or the telecine operator when it comes to video transfer, to place in a plate that mattes off the image to the desired (usually 1.85) ratio. So with the extra negative space on the top and bottom, that 3.8%, more often than not, is actually gained footage that would normally be matted with black bars. Again, with this new FRIDAY THE 13TH transfer, we're losing 10.6%, and someone has clearly made arbitrary changes to the composition.

No, actually, movies don't get CROPPED from 1.85:1 to 1.78:1, they're more OPENED UP. That was just a rare case with My Bloody Valentine. The last time I saw a blu-ray with actual 1.85:1? Pineapple Express, Burn After Reading, Carrie...

And Friday the 13th, Part 2 proves that studios are OPENING up films from 1.85:1 to 1.78:1. The new disc is 1.78 and still has more image. I kindof like it, it fits the screen better. I dunno, aspect ratios are so fiddly. 1.78:1 is so close to 1.85:1 that you hardly notice the difference. Either you get tiny thin black lines on your TV or you get the movie opened up a bit and it completely fills the 16x9 frame. They're opened up, not zoomed.

~Matt

I've clearly been put in my place, from a technical standpoint. However, I still stick by my feelings about this one not being the huge deal that some are making it out to be. I just watched both Pineapple Express and Burn After Reading within the last week and I don't recall seeing even a smidgen of a black bar at the top and bottom. I'll have to go back and check.

Matt89
02-04-2009, 12:57 AM
I've clearly been put in my place, from a technical standpoint. However, I still stick by my feelings about this one not being the huge deal that some are making it out to be. I just watched both Pineapple Express and Burn After Reading within the last week and I don't recall seeing even a smidgen of a black bar at the top and bottom. I'll have to go back and check.

Well you better go check it again, because Pineapple Express and Burn After Reading are in TRUE 1.85:1. :)

~Matt

Katatonia
02-04-2009, 01:26 AM
Well, I pre-ordered the Blu-ray last week and it arrived in the mail earlier today. I doubt I'll even bother returning it now, as it's just more hassle.

Hopefully there'll be an official recall and disc replacement program. Then again, this is Paramount we're talking about here. :eek2:

Matt89
02-04-2009, 01:29 AM
Well, I pre-ordered the Blu-ray last week and it arrived in the mail earlier today. I doubt I'll even bother returning it now, as it's just more hassle.

Yeah I can't be bothered to return it either.

Hopefully there'll be an official recall and disc replacement program. Then again, this is Paramount we're talking about here. :eek2:

That's what I'm hoping for. *fingers crossed*

~Matt

grodd
02-04-2009, 05:18 PM
Well, it seems that we know the source of the problem now. The international version is zoomed in.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/vergleich.php?vergleichID=287

evileye
02-04-2009, 06:51 PM
Recall? Paramount? You gotta be kidding!
The title will sell well (especially the DVD since it's cheap) and the average consumer will not notice the cropping. While I'm dissappointed that there was not more care in the transfer, the clarity overall compensates until the eventual 40th anniversary edition.

Now... let get moving on the rest of these films! If Part 2's DVD transfer is any indication, the BLURAY will look great.

KillerCannabis
02-05-2009, 01:05 AM
Well you better go check it again, because Pineapple Express and Burn After Reading are in TRUE 1.85:1. :)

~Matt

Huh? Pineapple Express is a 2.40:1 film. How are you watching it 1.85:1?

Matt89
02-05-2009, 03:27 AM
Huh? Pineapple Express is a 2.40:1 film. How are you watching it 1.85:1?

My bad. :D It was another Judd Apatow comedy, I meant The 40 Year-Old Virgin. (Watched them both last week, got confused as to which one was 1.85.)

~Matt

Sinister Ash
02-05-2009, 03:47 AM
such disappointment....

marcx
02-06-2009, 06:03 PM
So it seems like this is the same as any previous veriosn of the uncut international version---usually I am pretty pick about this stuff but this seems reasonable to me....I plan to watch mine this weekend...

Mutilated Prey
02-06-2009, 06:09 PM
Yup - it is what it's supposed to be. Enjoy!
Mine just came in the mail and I'll indulge myself tonight happily.

marcx
02-08-2009, 03:04 AM
The blu-ray looks simply fantastic on my 90" screen...NO complaints here...

Zombie Dude
02-09-2009, 07:39 AM
Looks like a Blu-ray box set is on the way:
This past Tuesday Paramount Home Entertainment released the original Friday the 13th on Blu-ray, while sticking parts 2 and 3 on DVD (again). We learned over the weekend that Paramount is already prepping to release a brand new box set including the first eight Friday the 13th films on Blu-ray. Much like the 2004 DVD release "From Crystal Lake to Manhattan", the box set will include the first eight films, as Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X and Freddy vs Jason were made by New Line Cinema. No word on if they'll be uncut or not - let us pray.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15230/

Marv Inc.
02-09-2009, 07:54 PM
The blu ray of part 3 is only a slight improvment from the dvd and has no option to see it in 3d. Part 2 looks gorgeous on blu though so definatly worth picking up.

SaviniFan
02-09-2009, 08:30 PM
Aside from part 1 and part 4, I don't see myself owning the others on blu-ray unless any of them are uncut.

Mutilated Prey
02-09-2009, 09:41 PM
I will get the Blu's of all of 'em regardless of whether they are cut are not. Part 1 looks soooo choice, I wouldn't be able to stand not owning the rest. But, I mean, I HOPE they are uncut, especially Part 7 :)

fceurich39
02-10-2009, 12:26 AM
i really don't care if any of em is uncut except part 7 on the new blu-ray box set as well as part 3 blu-ray in 3D

FatalKiss
02-14-2009, 03:00 PM
Just a quick question:

Is there an ISOLATED SCORE extras feature on the F13-blu-ray or the possibility to select score only during the movie?

I ask because I came across an download of the complete score on a torrent site saying it came directly from the new blu-ray but I didn't find the extra listed and don't want to get my fingers burnt by downloading any illegal content. If the soundtrack is included I would by the blu-ray ASAP.

thanks and best regards from Germany,
FatalKiss

Katatonia
02-15-2009, 12:01 AM
No, there's no isolated score included on the new R1 Blu-ray.

Katatonia
02-18-2009, 10:00 AM
Amen! Did he give you any impressions on the picture/audio quality. I'm surprised there are no reviews out yet.

The Blu-ray for Part 2 looks fantastic, easily on par with the first film's HD transfer...even perhaps exceeding it. All of the bonus content is in full 1080p HD, except for Jason Forever which is just standard definition. The Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio sounds great.

The Blu-ray for Part 3 varies in quality. Sometimes the picture quality looks pretty good, and at other times it's grainy as hell and somewhat blurry. I'd fault the original film stock and vault materials available, but who knows. Again, the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio sounds great here. And all of the bonus features on this disc are full 1080p HD.

Mutilated Prey
02-18-2009, 04:03 PM
The Blu-ray for Part 2 looks fantastic, easily on par with the first film's HD transfer...even perhaps exceeding it. All of the bonus content is in full 1080p HD, except for Jason Forever which is just standard definition. The Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio sounds great.

The Blu-ray for Part 3 varies in quality. Sometimes the picture quality looks pretty good, and at other times it's grainy as hell and somewhat blurry. I'd fault the original film stock and vault materials available, but who knows. Again, the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 audio sounds great here. And all of the bonus features on this disc are full 1080p HD.

Who? What? Where? Did I miss something? How are you seeing these already?

gunner
02-18-2009, 05:04 PM
The Friday 2 & 3 blu-ray releases hit shelves in the UK the week after the US blu-ray release of pt 1.
Thanks Katatonia!! I received mine early last week, they sit in my cabinet still unopened. I've been too busy to watch anything!! I was worried about all the extras being in PAL and unwatchable. This is great news!! Hopefully I'll be able to sit down to at least one of them tonight.

Matt89
02-18-2009, 05:29 PM
I don't give a rat's ass about Part 3, as its one of my least favorite of the series, but shit...Part 2 is sounding more and more tempting.

~Matt

Mutilated Prey
02-18-2009, 06:03 PM
Ah, well when are the US releases coming!?

I read that Blu Ray players don't care if it's PAL or NTSC format. Is that true?

gunner
02-18-2009, 06:14 PM
I like pt. 3 the best. Mostly because it was the first horror film I ever watched. I was around 8 years old, it was edited for TV and it still totally frightened me like nothing can today. To this day I feel it has some of the most classic Jason moments, like the overview of him thrashing through the barn, his strange scare tactic in the back window of the cabin (hallucination) and the pull away shot of his corpse on the barn at the very end played to a gentle almost "Just Before Dawn" whistling tone. I dig the snaggle-toothed, mongoloid look Jason had as well. I just love this movie. I'm glad the UK blu-ray transfer "has it's moments", I was quite impressed with the new 2-D dvd image so I'm sure to love it!!

Katatonia
02-19-2009, 01:13 AM
The Friday 2 & 3 blu-ray releases hit shelves in the UK the week after the US blu-ray release of pt 1.
Thanks Katatonia!! I received mine early last week, they sit in my cabinet still unopened. I've been too busy to watch anything!! I was worried about all the extras being in PAL and unwatchable. This is great news!! Hopefully I'll be able to sit down to at least one of them tonight.

Since the only extra that's standard def is "Jason Forever" you should have no problems playing anything else on any Blu-ray player in the world. That one played fine in my LG drive, but I have yet to check it in my Sony player. I really doubt it's PAL though since it's Paramount. I was shocked that everything else was in full 1080p.

Ah, well when are the US releases coming!?

I read that Blu Ray players don't care if it's PAL or NTSC format. Is that true?

Who knows when they're eventually coming to the US... I grabbed these cheap enough to be satisfied until whenever comes. :evil:

PAL & NTSC only matter for the standard-def material put on Blu-rays...as far as I know. The actual HD content (720/1080) is the same basic format worldwide, and isn't confronted with the PAL/NTSC conversion problems. The HD content isn't "sped up" as in the case of PAL DVD's either. A good case would be my recent purchase of the Sophie Scholl Blu-ray (UK) (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews25/sophie_scholl.htm) which actually runs almost 5 minutes longer than the R1 NTSC DVD, which was sourced from a PAL source it turns out. :eek2:

Cantona07
02-19-2009, 04:43 PM
I have parts 2 and 3. I just watched the the intro and into the titles for part 3 and it looks amazing.

spawningblue
02-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Ah, well when are the US releases coming!?

I read that Blu Ray players don't care if it's PAL or NTSC format. Is that true?

Well the Ultimate Box Set is coming to Blu by the end of the year, so you don't have to long to wait. My guess would be mid summer when the remake hits DVD and Blu. Might have more extras as well, so unless you are loaded or desperately need to see them now I would hold out.

gunner
02-20-2009, 10:45 PM
I'll be first in line for that box set!!
And, I finally got around to viewing the UK blu-rays of pt 2 & 3!! The menus are identical to the US dvds. Every single supplement plays perfectly on my region A locked Sony player (even the one standard def "Jason Forever" supplement on pt 2's) Both transfers kick the US dvds asses!! Pt. 2 is breathtaking, on the level of pt 1's but without the framing controversy. Pt.3 looks stunning as well. Not as consistent, sometimes grainy and it does take on a metallic hue here and there, but all problems look organic, filmy...and still very noticeably more detailed with a full "window effect" still happening. I love them both. I also popped in the new 2 & 3 dvds after checking out the blu-rays. They both looked hideous...that's a good thing.
My only gripe is the fat, thick-as-a-dvd cases Paramount is using in the UK. Why? But beyond the fatter cases and a strange forced "language selection" screen in the beginning, you'd swear they were both American releases. Hell, why aren't they?

Katatonia
02-21-2009, 12:37 AM
I'll be first in line for that box set!!
And, I finally got around to viewing the UK blu-rays of pt 2 & 3!! The menus are identical to the US dvds. Every single supplement plays perfectly on my region A locked Sony player (even the one standard def "Jason Forever" supplement on pt 2's) Both transfers kick the US dvds asses!! Pt. 2 is breathtaking, on the level of pt 1's but without the framing controversy. Pt.3 looks stunning as well. Not as consistent, sometimes grainy and it does take on a metallic hue here and there, but all problems look organic, filmy...and still very noticeably more detailed with a full "window effect" still happening. I love them both. I also popped in the new 2 & 3 dvds after checking out the blu-rays. They both looked hideous...that's a good thing.
My only gripe is the fat, thick-as-a-dvd cases Paramount is using in the UK. Why? But beyond the fatter cases and a strange forced "language selection" screen in the beginning, you'd swear they were both American releases. Hell, why aren't they?

Cool gunner! I'll also get the Blu-ray box set...whenever it's eventually released, and I'm not fully trusting of rumors. :evil: I got through watching all of the extras on the Part 2 & 3 Blu-rays last night, great stuff and 1080p!

I don't know why many UK Blu-rays come released in the thicker "HD Keep Cases". I have several other UK Blu-rays from other studios that also came packaged that way. The only one that came in a standard "HD Slim" like domestic Blu-rays, was The Boys from Brazil Blu-ray.

dickieduvet
02-21-2009, 12:38 AM
All our Blu-Ray cases are Fat over here, I don't know why :confused:

gunner
02-21-2009, 04:45 PM
I guess the chubbier UK cases are growing on me, I had never heard about these before.
I haven't watched pt.2's extras yet, since I already saw them all on the US dvd. But I did check out all of pt. 3's. My favorite has got to be the story of Jason's mask segment. I never knew pt. 3's mask was molded clear and painted white from the inside and the accents were cut from red acetate and glued on. Now that I know, it's as plain as day to be able to tell on the new 1080p transfer. I've always been obsessed with pt.3's mask and have wanted to get a nice replica for my collection for years. But I was never turned on by any of the replicas I'd seen, they just "weren't right". Now I know why. Anyone know of someone making them the correct way?

gunner
03-17-2009, 01:10 AM
So, Inspired by the UK blu-ray of Friday the 13th pt. 3, I finally took the plunge and bought a replica of Jason's mask to display. It looks great, I love the high gloss finish, and the weave pattern on the elastic straps & metal buckles are screen accurate. It's quite impressive, the best replica I've personally seen, the artist "Warlock" autographed the inside. A year ago I would have been totally blown away by this one!! But now that I know "the truth" about how the original mask was made, this one still doesn't cut it 100%. But it's still exciting, had to share!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/gunnerg/1-15.jpg?t=1237244018

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/gunnerg/2-16.jpg?t=1237244947

rhett
03-17-2009, 04:35 AM
That mask looks pretty damn good...but the true test is a picture with you actually wearing it! The mug shots thread was created especially for you.

How much did it set you back? I still use this shitty glow in the dark Jason mask I bought for Halloween a good 15 years ago. It would be nice to get some serious fan hardware like that.

spawningblue
03-17-2009, 04:57 AM
That mask looks pretty damn good...but the true test is a picture with you actually wearing it! The mug shots thread was created especially for you.

How much did it set you back? I still use this shitty glow in the dark Jason mask I bought for Halloween a good 15 years ago. It would be nice to get some serious fan hardware like that.

Agreed, it looks pretty damn close even if that's not exactly the way they made the real masks. I'm jealous either way!

Wez4555
03-17-2009, 09:13 PM
thats awesome. i second for a picture of you wearing it!

gunner
03-17-2009, 10:44 PM
Thanks guys! These masks are very easy to find. I would call them more of a simulation than a replica...all scuffs are painted on and clear coated over, which is kinda lame, very obvious...I'm almost tempted to make them into real scuffs. I'd post a pic of me wearing it, but with all the stray hair it makes me look like a mongoloid lol. But it looks great on my shelf, taking the place of a strapless blank that's been sitting there for years. I may buy a strap kit and finally give that blank the best clean "Shelly look" I possibly can. Enough clear coats (and all scuffs on the outside) and I think the effect would be very similar to the original screen used look. I haven't done a project like this since the old vinyl "Screamin" model kits.
I also wanted to add: I believe pt 3 is the only mask that was molded clear. All the following sequals look to have used the same mold, but used an opaque plastic just like the various ones available online.

gunner
03-20-2009, 01:11 AM
Sorry to geek out. But, the mask posted above is gonna be history soon. I should have done more research. I just found a guy only a few states away that not only has an obsession for Friday masks and making them, but he's well aware of the "real methods" of making pt. 3's mask the authentic way. He's been making crystal clear blanks for a little while now. He's gonna make me a genuine replica!!! Soon: Jason mask nirvana!! Can't wait. I'll be sure to post pics.

Grim
03-20-2009, 01:19 AM
Sorry to geek out. But, the mask posted above is gonna be history soon. I should have done more research. I just found a guy only a few states away that not only has an obsession for Friday masks and making them, but he's well aware of the "real methods" of making pt. 3's mask the authentic way. He's been making crystal clear blanks for a little while now. He's gonna make me a genuine replica!!! Soon: Jason mask nirvana!! Can't wait. I'll be sure to post pics.

I remember finding the website of the guy who created the mask for Pt. 3. He would sell blank molds of the masks and then there was another website linked on that site which had a guy who you could send the blank mask to and he'd basically make any version of it you wanted, from Part 3 all the way to Freddy Vs. Jason. For some of them they even had multiple stages the mask went through during the course of a certain film. I always wanted to get one, but I figured it'd be an arm and a leg.

Horror_Boy
03-20-2009, 01:39 AM
I to have a Warlock mask created from a Frightstuff blank...Ken Tarello claims to use the original movie mold for the blanks from the 1982 film......

Warlock no longer uses them and there has been some doubt raised about the authenticity of Ken's claims..Personally I don't know or really care I can safely say this is the closest thing I have seen to the actual screen hero mask in Part III. Warlock is amazingly talented... I will make a an attachment of the mask when I figure how this works...

gunner
03-20-2009, 07:19 PM
I'm not sure what site that was, but with the owner's claim of being the original mask maker, most likely frightstuff. They have great artists, and the quality on the masks & hardware is very nice. But I don't believe for a second the owner of that site made the original mask...Nobody knew the original was molded from clear Polyethylene Terephthalate Glycol (or PETG) until Douglas White spoke on an online interview. The blanks offered there also have several differences in shape to the original.
I was just quoted $120.00 for a finished replica using a clear blank and the original inside-out method of painting. I don't think that's bad for a priceless keepsake!!

KillerCannabis
03-21-2009, 02:29 AM
Silver Shampain Novelties make replicas from the original molds for ALL the F13th series. FYI for those interested.

Horror_Boy
03-21-2009, 09:31 PM
Well Ken claims he has the original mold that was made in 82... Now the artist re shape some of the masks and some artist don't re shape..Warlock does and he got min as you can see in the pic about as close as I could imagine to the part III mask.

Ken has long claimed this....He was supposed to have worked on the film back in the day and knew Marty Becker...He told me the original mask wore in the film was destroyed out in the sun at Marty's shop..

So if his mold isn't the original I have no idea who has it or if it still even exists..The masks are slightly different in all the films...The same basic mold was used but they were not screen accurate from one film to the next...

I highly doubt Silver Shampain has the original mold.........

gunner
03-25-2009, 06:15 PM
Horror_Boy, It's not just the shape, there are other details that are off. The hole placement is different on the original mask, it was also thinner and made of clear plastic. The face holes were flat around the edges as opposed to having a slight funneled effect.
In pt. 3, the mask looked real and the scuffs were real. I just see the various copies as looking like a decoration. Clear coating over painted-on faux scuffs just doesn't work for Jason's mask.
Don't get me wrong, your display looks great, I especially like the display head! And Warlock IS a skilled man. BUT I think he'd greatly improve using a clear mask painted from the inside and adding real damage as opposed to painting a simulation. These things imo are far more important than spot-on hole & shape accuracy.
Still waiting for my clear-based replica...I'll be sure to post pics and opinions (neg or pos) when it arrives. The man who's making it wasn't happy with any of the various molds available, so he sculpted/made his own mold by repeatedly watching pt. 4's opening sequence (one of pt. 3's leftover masks was used for this). All this, and he's cheaper than frightstuff too. Keeping my fingers crossed...in-person this mask SHOULD be much more "for real" in appearance.

Added: If Ken really made the mask, or even helped out Douglas White making it, he would have obviously known the original mysterious building process. His blanks would have been far more accurate and offered in clear PETG from the start. Also, the inside-out paiting method would have been exposed to fans a long time ago. The blu-ray transfer backs this info as fact. Is he claiming to have forgotten the process, or that Douglas White is lying?

Horror_Boy
03-25-2009, 08:17 PM
I don't know for sure right off hand..But there is a thread there and on some of the other artist's sites that used to work for frightstuff talking about all this crap...

I was told by one of them who is very in the know that he believes it is a part 7 mold Ken is using...I don't know for sure and would like to see your new replica when you get it. And also shoot me a pm with the guy's info or site I might have another made sometime also..

gunner
05-15-2009, 12:10 AM
Horror_Boy, I was originally going wait to post the pics of the new inside-out painted mask along with a link to the site where I purchased it from, but things have changed. My mask won't be arriving until next week, and the site owner has decided to call his mask making business quits. He will be taking orders until May 20th firm. You can still get one from him, but your order has to be in before the 20th, he'll be working on filling those previous orders after that date, no new orders, no exceptions.
And knowing what I know from this guy PLACE AN ORDER NOW!! I supplied him with a stack of red acetate, so the "chevrons" finally look "right" (once you watch the blu-ray transfer, you'll know!). His mold is the best I've seen (from his own personal sculpt), and his style is, well, "Friday the 13th" is the only way to put it. Skilled artist/craftsman working on fast food with a straight face. You don't see that everyday!! He'll be continuing indirectly in the hobby, helping makers make better masks. But he won't be doing any more orders for straps, blanks, finished masks, displays...anything!!

www.jdfstudiosfx.com
His name is Jeffrey Flynn, the price on a clear-based finished pt 3 mask is $130.00. You'll wait awhile, but you'll love how your bust looks with a far more authentic looking mask, it WILL be worth your wait. I just hope you see this before it's too late.

gunner
05-30-2009, 10:38 PM
Here's some pics of a replica made using the inside-out painting method on a clear blank. It is stunning, no backyard qualities at all to the workmanship. He really knocked himself out making this!! Light shines through the mask with a yellow glow, just like in the film. Every scuff is real damage with bright white showing through in 3rd dimension through the clear mask. Since it's painted from the inside, the interior has the same high gloss white as seen when Jason's mask gets knocked off his face in "The Final Chapter"...not "nippled" like a retro Tupperware container. The accents are cut from red acetate and fixed to the outside surface without any coats applied over (as it should be). I love it!!

With the Friday 3-D blu-ray coming soon to the USA, I expect all the mask makers to get flooded with orders for ones made like this. I'm just sorry JDF decided to back out of the industry. His own hand-made mold is for sale, so maybe someone else will offer these blanks soon. The shape is as film accurate as I've seen!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/gunnerg/1-30.jpg?t=1243714258

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/gunnerg/2-29.jpg?t=1243714878

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/gunnerg/3-23.jpg?t=1243714882

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/gunnerg/4-23.jpg?t=1243714933

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v718/gunnerg/5-14.jpg?t=1243714936

spawningblue
05-31-2009, 12:15 AM
That's pretty awesome Gunner. I am jealous!

Sinister Ash
05-31-2009, 07:40 AM
Very very nice mask!

Kolpitz
06-30-2009, 11:44 PM
Well you better go check it again, because Pineapple Express and Burn After Reading are in TRUE 1.85:1. :)

~Matt

I just found out that my TV's default HD setting was "Size 1" which, apparently zooms in about 5% to only show 95% of the picture. It essentially makes 1.85:1 films fit a 1.78:1 screen size. I changed it to "Size 2" and now 1.85:1 films are showing up properly on my TV. I've been watching movies at basically the wrong aspect ratio for a year and half now. Ugh.

Horror_Boy
07-01-2009, 02:13 AM
I have the Blu Ray of part 3 coming this week..That is great work..What I like about Warlock is the re-shaping he does.. If you notice on that bust pic he has the shape the same as the film used mask IMO..But yeah it is all painted weathering and the blanks were not clear at that time that Ken was making..He does offer clear blanks now..

old-boo-radley
07-15-2009, 12:59 AM
Does anyone have a link to the video of that one F13 fan who got pissed off that the uncut F13 Blu/DVD didn't include Brenda's death (which was never filmed) and boycotted the series? He was basically crying, had a squeaky voice, was bald and said he was done with the F13 series. I want to show this to a friend, but after an hour of looking, I just can't even come up with a lead.

Horror_Boy
07-16-2009, 04:08 AM
Does anyone have a link to the video of that one F13 fan who got pissed off that the uncut F13 Blu/DVD didn't include Brenda's death (which was never filmed) and boycotted the series? He was basically crying, had a squeaky voice, was bald and said he was done with the F13 series. I want to show this to a friend, but after an hour of looking, I just can't even come up with a lead.


Sounds like another youtube douche bag.....

rxfiend
07-16-2009, 06:16 AM
Anyone hear if Paramount is going to release the rest of the series on Blu-ray?

Marv Inc.
07-16-2009, 06:47 PM
Halloween time me thinks if they do.

It's me, Billy
08-25-2009, 02:55 AM
So, are we not getting parts 4, 5, and 6 on Blu after all? The Deluxe Edition DVDs of 7 and 8 were announced some time ago, but still no announcement for 4-6 on BD. And it's August 24th. If they were planning on releasing these in Sept-Oct., I think we would have heard about it by now.

Of course, I still need to get part 2 and the 2009 remake on Blu.

Katatonia
08-25-2009, 03:02 AM
So, are we not getting parts 4, 5, and 6 on Blu after all? The Deluxe Edition DVDs of 7 and 8 were announced some time ago, but still no announcement for 4-6 on BD. And it's August 24th. If they were planning on releasing these in Sept-Oct., I think we would have heard about it by now.

Nothing else has been announced thus far.

Of course, I still need to get part 2 and the 2009 remake on Blu.

I'd buy it soon, that is if you want the Slip Cover and Digital Copy disc. It's beginning to show up in stores and through online retailers without either of those included, but at the same original SRP price.

fceurich39
08-25-2009, 05:26 AM
well part 7 and 8 looks like it will be harder to find
my bestbuy isn't getting em but they got the first 6 films in special editions go figure

Marv Inc.
08-29-2009, 09:08 PM
Here's the Artwork for the upcoming Uk release from WB,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/Marvdogger/Fridaythe13th1980WarnerBluRay.jpg

indiephantom
08-30-2009, 01:03 AM
I really want parts 4-6 on blu...soon.:banana:

Matt89
08-30-2009, 01:56 AM
Haha wow that UK artwork is terrible. Why didn't they just use the artwork from the DVD? It would've looked great with the blu-ray case.

~Matt

Grim
08-30-2009, 03:27 AM
And people were bitching about the covers for US releases...

CrazyFatEthel
08-30-2009, 05:56 AM
And people were bitching about the covers for US releases...

:lol:

rxfiend
08-30-2009, 11:26 AM
I didn't realize the hockey mask made an appearance in the first one. :rolleyes:

Marv Inc.
08-30-2009, 12:13 PM
It sucks when a studio has to use a symbol to appeal the "the Youth" so they can sell more copys. I agree the orignal R2 dvd artwork or the uk poser artwork would have made a much more suiting cover.

I bet Mrs. Voorhees dos'nt even apear on the back cover.

spawningblue
08-31-2009, 05:47 PM
I didn't realize the hockey mask made an appearance in the first one. :rolleyes:

Well it does say on the cover, "The terror before the mask." Either way, it's a terrible cover!

Katatonia
09-01-2009, 09:26 AM
Just a heads up that Amazon has the forthcoming Freddy vs. Jason Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029O0BJU/) for just $11.49

zombi3
09-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Still no news about 4-6 on BD...it would be nice if the delay was because they are editing the cut scenes from The Final Chapter and Jason Lives back into the movies, but I doubt it.

Grim
09-05-2009, 07:37 PM
Still no news about 4-6 on BD...it would be nice if the delay was because they are editing the cut scenes from The Final Chapter and Jason Lives back into the movies, but I doubt it.

That indeed would be awesome. I think the sound for the stuff from The Final Chapter is missing. Part 6 could be a real possibility, though. Wouldn't be that taxing of a job for them.

Marv Inc.
09-05-2009, 10:07 PM
We gonna have to wait a while I reckon. Paramount are going to want to see how well there deluxe edition dvds sell before they put out any more blu's and with the final two deluxe dvds out this month I cant see them doing anymore blu's this year.

Maybe they'll start releasing from January 2010 onwards.

Marv Inc.
10-21-2009, 05:46 PM
My UK Warner disc showed up today, nice to see they carried over the feautures from there old dvd, the paramount boxset and the new deluxe edition.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/Marvdogger/Fridaythe13thblu1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/Marvdogger/Fridaythe13thblu2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/Marvdogger/Fridaythe13thblu3.jpg

geeare
10-21-2009, 05:58 PM
nice cover but not really appropriate for the film.

captain_brandon
10-21-2009, 07:13 PM
nice cover but not really appropriate for the film.

I have to agree: I do, however, love the saying "The Terror BEFORE The Mask", but the logging chain wielding shadowed Slasher featured on the cover is not Mrs. Voorhees, of course, and the color scheme seem's a bit off. NEver the less, I'm glad the United Kimgdom and I assume Republic of Ireland fans & collectors as well finally get the first one on Blu-Ray.

Ya'll can take my advice: The quality on the first two Blu-Rays is absolutely beyond STUNNING. They're now the definitive versions of these films. Sadly, Part3-D as always, has never really looked good at all, and yet remains one of my favorite films of the series. But the first two Slasher classics are awesome looking on Blu.

geeare
10-21-2009, 07:40 PM
I have to agree: I do, however, love the saying "The Terror BEFORE
Ya'll can take my advice: The quality on the first two Blu-Rays is absolutely beyond STUNNING. They're now the definitive versions of these films. Sadly, Part3-D as always, has never really looked good at all, and yet remains one of my favorite films of the series. But the first two Slasher classics are awesome looking on Blu.


AGREED, the first two are amazing.

captain_brandon
10-21-2009, 08:11 PM
AGREED, the first two are amazing.

Indeed. Many simply don't know what they're missing by not at least ordering the first two Slasher classics--especially with how much I love the second film--on Blu. I mean words cannot discribe watching it on a modern TV set with HDMI cables and on a good Blu-Ray player. It's looking re-watching them both for the vew first time. And the 3-D on the Blu is slightly improved from my Deluxe Edition DVD, and there is an interesting hockey mask special feature as well.