SAW VI updates [EDIT]

[SEANVALEN]

When Saw 5 came out, and I saw it, I immediately pondered about Saw 6, and looking forward to news on it, news was slow at first, but it's now coming, with shooting beginning soon.

Saw 6, what we know so far,

Jigsaw - and his disciples - will return in Saw VI on October 23, 2009

Saw 6 Begins shooting on 30th March

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/scream-queens/tanedra-howard-wins-vh1s-screa-25123.aspx
Unknown Tanedra Howard will be in it because:

After seven weeks of battling through almost every imaginable horror scenario, VH1's Scream Queens has finally found its first victor. The competitive reality series premiered on October 20, introducing 10 unknown actresses who would contend against each other for a break-out role in the horror film Saw VI. Contestants competed in a series of challenges, from working with bugs to stunt acting, designed to prove they have the talent and the strength to succeed.

On last night's finale, the competition came down to three actresses who must put everything they've learned to the test in the most grueling and exhausting challenge they've ever had to face: The Scream Queen gauntlet. Lindsay Felton immediately got “The Axe,” leaving Michelle Galdenzi and Tanedra Howard to face off in one final Director's Challenge that will determine the winner of Scream Queens
“I haven't heard anything yet [about the film]. I heard something about pre-production starting in February or March and that it's going to be filmed in Canada. But that's about it. They haven't gotten in contact with me, so I assume they're going to do that soon, now that the show is over. We have no idea what the role will be like. I heard a rumor that the way the role was written would depend on who won. I guess they're just waiting to see what the winner is capable of pulling off.”





This is interesting:

Is the Saw Series Heading for 3-D?

"3-D" is on the lips of the producing team at Twisted Pictures, the house of horror known for churning out the Saw franchise. And if the future continues to look bright for the Jigsaw legacy (Saw V grossed over $100 million worldwide), you might just see a Saw sequel coming at you in the same technology that made My Bloody Valentine 3D leap off the screen.

At last night's sold-out, energetic Los Angeles screening of Repo! The Genetic Opera, another Twisted production, ShockTillYouDrop.com got to speaking with the producers who are seriously mulling over a Saw 3D. Perhaps not Saw VI but a seventh entry.

With 3-D becoming prevalent in the horror genre this year, it might be advantageous to consider doing part six in 3-D, but with an October 23rd release date looming and pre-production beginning soon - could Twisted make it work? If there was ever a time to freshen up this ongoing horror franchise, this is it. Imagine seeing Jigsaw's devices in your face...

Just to make clear, nothing is set in stone, but the 3-D ideas are being kicked around.


http://www.officialsawforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2988

Saw news will be posted in the offical saw forums as filming begins soon in Toronto Canada.


I just have a feeling Saw VI will be very good. They planned 3-4-5 for Saw VI to be pieced together. Saw VI was planned years ago so.. I guess it will blow Saw 5 right out of the water and if has 3D great, if not then Saw 7.

Director Kevin Greutert Talks Saw 6
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8544

This might not be accessable for those in US, but here in the UK, Saw the ride is coming,
adverrt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j3BiaEoP_w&feature=related

http://sawtheride.com/


I intend in the leadup to Halloween lol, watch all Saw films on dvd, go thorpe park and ride Saw the ride, then watch Saw 6 at the cinema, maybe even try and get into the Saw 6 UK premiere lol, that'll make me the ultimate Saw fan pedigree fanatic! PLus the Saw fanchise is well liked by our Rhett Legend, so we got Rhett's blessing to have Jigsaw sandwiches and cut each other up after discussing stuff. :D


And also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQk8VNkAZBw&feature=related

Saw theme remix extended

[MrVess]

At some point, that Saw guy will have to:

- go into space
- get resurrected and/or become immortal
- fight Chucky and/or Cenobites in a crossover

[fceurich39]

i heard saw 6 is supposed to be the final saw film i sure hope so

[X-human]

No, no, no they've got it all wrong. Saw 3 was suppose to be in 3D, and then they abandon the process after that. Everyone in Hollywood knows that. Get with the program guys.

[fceurich39]

No, no, no they've got it all wrong. Saw 3 was suppose to be in 3D, and then they abandon the process after that. Everyone in Hollywood knows that. Get with the program guys.

yep youre right isn't there also a saw video game that was supposed to come out a while back or is it still coming out?

[SEANVALEN]

i heard saw 6 is supposed to be the final saw film i sure hope so

I don't think so, let's see how they market it. Freddy's Dead the final nigtmare was great marketing to make you believe no more Freddy films, but nothing is finite in this industry.

I think the guys involved will end the current story arc, and have a stepping stone for another one, they have many ideas from things I've read, and as long as it makes money, can't see it stopping. The writers are quite clever I think to keep it going.

Saw 6, 7, 8 9 and 10
This decade will be about the billion dollar horror fanchise, it's a fanchise, SAW FILMS, Saw ride, SAW GAME, this is a major establishment, the crowning glory of horror this decade, the saw ride is the first ride based on horror themes. I'm proud of their work. And it's not a remake!

[Chunkblower]

Given the slow, but steady, decline in box office since the high water mark of SAW II, I can certainly understand the temptation to release SAW VI in 3-D. Would the Bloody Valentine remake have grossed over $50 million if it had only been exhibited in 2D? Probably not. However, that was more a fun thrill ride with pretty straight forward visuals. I'm not sure SAW's grim tone, colour scheme and quick cutting would translate to 3D very well. The series has been, if nothing else, consistent in look and feel. It'd be a shame to see them abandon that for a cheap gimmick.

[SEANVALEN]

Shawnee Smith returns for Saw 6

http://www.moviehole.net/200918246-shawnee-smith-returns-for-saw-6


It's said Saw 6 will be more violent.

More violent? I thought they did a good job on violence in the previous films, so they must really be going for it now


Given the slow, but steady, decline in box office since the high water mark of SAW II, I can certainly understand the temptation to release SAW VI in 3-D. Would the Bloody Valentine remake have grossed over $50 million if it had only been exhibited in 2D? Probably not. However, that was more a fun thrill ride with pretty straight forward visuals. I'm not sure SAW's grim tone, colour scheme and quick cutting would translate to 3D very well. The series has been, if nothing else, consistent in look and feel. It'd be a shame to see them abandon that for a cheap gimmick.



But wait, don't you think 3D works well, when used at the right times? Don't you think the saw traps coming out in front of you in 3D, might actually enchance the impact? It might look cool.

There's nothing wrong with 3D, when I saw T2-3D, batteracross time, it felt like a 3rd terminator film, the way they used 3D really worked. 3D is really taking shape, if the execution works with the story as when special effects became advanced in terminator 2, and we got t-1000, people wanna be amazed again.

[rhett]

Since the studios really make all their money theatrically in the first two weeks, the series has been nothing but consistent for them. It's the longevity that's slowly eaten away at the franchise's earning potential, but when you consider the fallout for canonical horror franchises like Elm Street, Friday or Halloween, the series is still doing pretty amazing. What other multi-film franchise out there is there where every sequel has grossed more than the successful first venture?

[SEANVALEN]

Since the studios really make all their money theatrically in the first two weeks, the series has been nothing but consistent for them. It's the longevity that's slowly eaten away at the franchise's earning potential, but when you consider the fallout for canonical horror franchises like Elm Street, Friday or Halloween, the series is still doing pretty amazing. What other multi-film franchise out there is there where every sequel has grossed more than the successful first venture?


I definately agree, I think the Saw films more so then any other horror fanchise is in better control for sequel entries. I must say Lionsgate this decade has been a savior for horror films, we've had the gore, grit and polished execution off some very well worthy additions to the horror genre. Lionsgate has put horror back on the map, after say the Scream films took the micky out of it at the end the 90s, the end of the 90s some what was a a big void, the scream films felt like a goodbye to horror we knew it, but also encouraging the genre to rise above itself and do cooler stuff to shock as again.

I rememeber watching Saw 1 for the first time, it was unsetteling horror, under your skin, the death traps were basicially the saviour of horror as much as say remakes like Dawn of the Dead encoraging a 80s come back in the 21st century. We got a bit of both.

Elm Street, Friday films/Halloween lacked that studio quality control big shot back in the days to mastermind sequels with talented entries, but sequels sometimes are adored for being lesser/they have fans, but with Saw films, we have good support at Lionsgate, and people who are happy to try and better themselfs to keep a fanchise going, I don't think horror films in a fanchise like this, have done as well.

We need the R rated crowd to show the studios it's worth it, and Saw films definately did that, a important landmark they are for our continued survival in these harsh hollywood times. I also liken the Saw films as perhaps the most philosophical fanchise on the human condition, Jigsaw works on our life and death beliefs with much more conviction then I've seen in any other horror film, yence a icon for the decade and forever in horror.

Sir Rhett Legend signing off.

[SEANVALEN]

http://wearemoviegeeks.com/2009/07/creepy-saw-vi-motion-poster-hits/comment-page-1/


CHECK OUT SAW 6 MOTION POSTER

THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE COOLEST POSTER EVER FOR A HORROR FILM

I thought the Saw 5 poster was great, but this motion one is brilliant.


I went on the saw ride many weeks ago here in the UK, it was quite a intense ride, very fast, my necked moved a bit too much for my liking, perhaps I got unlucky, but it wasn't the most pleasant of exeriences because I wasn't positoned with my neck just right in one of G force drops, maybe it was Jigsaw curse to make me feel pain. The ride briefly stopped before I got on as well, horror ride indeed. If anyone makes it to the UK, try the ride,, it has a interesting set up with Jigsaw traps around the track as you wait for the ride.

[aoiookami]

'Saw: 1 every year until you like it.'

[baggio]

http://wearemoviegeeks.com/2009/07/creepy-saw-vi-motion-poster-hits/comment-page-1/


CHECK OUT SAW 6 MOTION POSTER

THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE COOLEST POSTER EVER FOR A HORROR FILM

I thought the Saw 5 poster was great, but this motion one is brilliant.


I went on the saw ride many weeks ago here in the UK, it was quite a intense ride, very fast, my necked moved a bit too much for my liking, perhaps I got unlucky, but it wasn't the most pleasant of exeriences because I wasn't positoned with my neck just right in one of G force drops, maybe it was Jigsaw curse to make me feel pain. The ride briefly stopped before I got on as well, horror ride indeed. If anyone makes it to the UK, try the ride,, it has a interesting set up with Jigsaw traps around the track as you wait for the ride.

That is a unique poster. Too bad you can't save it somehow. And not that that this is anything new(debuted in the first Saw movie), but the Saw music is just fantastic. Wonder if they ever thought it would be that much of an impact as it is. I look forward to it in every Saw film because it really adds to each ending imo.

[rhett]

Glad to see the SAW machine in full force here after a comparatively quiet first half of the year. Here's another update:

THE TEASER HITS TONIGHT:
Tobin Bell will be introducing the WORLD PREMIERE of the SAW VI Teaser Trailer at 5pm PST TODAY, which will simultaneously be streamed live on FEARnet.com (http://www.fearnet.com/news/index.html) and Justin.tv (http://www.justin.tv/saw_vi) in addition to the official SAW facebook page – www.facebook.com/saw !! Make sure you become a fan of SAW on Facebook so you don’t miss anything!

SYNOPSIS:
Special Agent Strahm is dead, and Detective Hoffman has emerged as the unchallenged successor to Jigsaw's legacy. However, when the FBI draws closer to Hoffman, he is forced to set a game into motion, and Jigsaw's grand scheme is finally understood.

The teaser is SAWesome. It confirms once and for all that Jigsaw is not just a character, he's part of us as we are part of him. <3

[rhett]

'Saw: 1 every year until you like it.'

They got me at four, then. :D

[2D4EVER]

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/mo/sawvi_motionposter.swf

Right click, save as

It'll say something about trying to communicate to google analytics. Just close the window after it appears.

[baggio]

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/mo/sawvi_motionposter.swf

Right click, save as

It'll say something about trying to communicate to google analytics. Just close the window after it appears.

I can't right click it. With either Firefox or Explorer. Only save page as, under file.

[rhett]

I can't right click it. With either Firefox or Explorer. Only save page as, under file.

No, right click the actual link in this thread. On Firefox you can then click "Save Link As..." and the file is yours.

[fearnet]

In addition to the teaser, today at 5pm PT, FEARnet correspondent Spider will interview Tobin Bell LIVE from Comic Con. If you're interested you can watch the interview live at the appointed hour and we’ll be putting up the trailer immediately afterward - here's the details FEARnet.com (http://www.fearnet.com/news/b16052_sdcc_2009_saw_vi_trailer_debut_this.html)

Jack with FEARnet

[SEANVALEN]

Glad to see the SAW machine in full force here after a comparatively quiet first half of the year. Here's another update:

THE TEASER HITS TONIGHT:


SYNOPSIS:


The teaser is SAWesome. It confirms once and for all that Jigsaw is not just a character, he's part of us as we are part of him. <3




And Saw 7 gets greenlit for 2010, production starts in Jan. They must have 6/7/8/9 and hell maybe 10 mapped out. I like Lionsgate for alot of reasons, Rambo and Saw films/horror films, they are the kings!

http://www.moviehole.net/200919969-saw-7-greenlit

[MorallySound]

SAW VI teaser trailer: http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/saw-6/teaser-trailer

And red-band clip: http://www.traileraddict.com/clip/saw-6/red-band-clip-carousel

[MorallySound]

And cast interview: http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/saw-6/cast-interview

Poster:
http://www.traileraddict.com/content/lionsgate/saw6.jpg

[rhett]

Hot from the press, the new SAW poster.

http://horrordigital.com/vb3forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5348&stc=1&d=1253215996

God bless Lionsgate.

[TheShape]

I see an interesting parallel here. The Saw franchise is to the 2000s what the Friday the 13th franchise was to the 80s: one per year until it stops being lucrative enough. One question remains: will Jigsaw get stuck at 8 for a while like Jason was?

And the ninth entry will be called "Jigsaw goes to hell: The final Saw" ;)...

[rhett]

I see an interesting parallel here. The Saw franchise is to the 2000s what the Friday the 13th franchise was to the 80s: one per year until it stops being lucrative enough. One question remains: will Jigsaw get stuck at 8 for a while like Jason was?

And the ninth entry will be called "Jigsaw goes to hell: The final Saw" ;)...

The only difference is that Jigsaw has already been dead for three films already. The way the series is always backward looking, though, they can surely keep going forward without having to turn Tobin into a zombie. Sequels work very well in this case.

[HellRazor]

And the ninth entry will be called "Jigsaw goes to hell: The final Saw" ;)...

Two other sure signs of the decline of your horror franchise is when the monster goes "In Space" or "In the Hood".

[AndresG]

What's next? Saw VII vs. Predator?

[HellRazor]

The best part is that only the first movie actually dealt with a saw. Unless of course you want to consider "Saw" short for "Jigsaw". Like a nickname or something.

"Hey, 'Saw'! How's it hanging dude?"

[bigdaddyhorse]

The best part is that only the first movie actually dealt with a saw.


The saw returned with a vengence in parts 3 and 5, at least Saw blades did. For that matter, when I first heard of Saw, I thought of a rotary saw and not a handsaw, so it's been getting closer to what I first expected.

[HellRazor]

Or maybe they call it that because once you've seen it, that's what you Saw.

[AndresG]

Or maybe they call it that because once you've seen it, that's what you Saw.

haha, yeah, why not :D

[shockwave]

I'll say one thing about the Saw series, at least they're entertaining and cohesive, everything connects very well and especially at the end you get that "Ohhh" feeling, unlike most horror franchises that I love it doesn't contradict itself or leave out important plot points. I'll definitely watch this when it comes out.

[HellRazor]

The only problem is that by now the plot is so convoluted that I start to forget what half the sequels were even about. I'm having that same issue with the Harry Potter movies.

[dolemite]

Caught midnight show of Saw 6 last night at the Alamo Drafthouse hosted by Fango.
Thought it was a bit weak. Course, not the biggest Saw fan. Nice seeing Betsy Russell's part was bigger this go round.
Had an odd, pro-Health Care message in between the carnage. At one point, Tobin Bell damn near broke the fourth wall to talk to the audience when he said Insurance Co. run everything.
Now, I'm not a secret Republican and I like it when Horror movies have a little subtext but this was damn near text.

[bigdaddyhorse]

I think this broke the even numbered curse that was on the franchise (2 and 4 are easily the weekest of the series) and pretty much kept going where 5 left off, with a few surprises thrown in for good measure.
It was getting a bit preachy for a bit there, but if anyone deserves to play Jigsaw's game, it's insurance CEO's!

It almost felt a bit dumbed down though. I think after the intentionaly impossible to follow timeline of 4, and the not so easy to decipher part 5 they felt it had to spoon-feed the retards in the crowd. So if the series waa confusing you, this will clear it up. At least one or 2 WTF flashbacks. While I enjoy these for making the story deeper, they almost feel like they cheapen the previous films. This seems like super-fucking-important info here, why not share it the first time, or 2nd, or 3rd or 4th at least?

I'm sure if I started looking I could find plot holes, but I won't because I like the series too damn much and this new offering is almost as good as the last, which I thought was the best.

[Ash28M]

I have seen the first 5 in theatres but every year my interest in it decreases. I guess I will eventually get around to seeing it. Compared to all great Movies that have come out this year I can't help but think it's been played out and enough is enough.

[mcchrist]

I guess you can call me a fan of the series. i didn't even watch them until V was nearly done with its theatrical run. I think the first film was somewhat admirable, but its structure was not that impressive and the MTV-styled editing brought absolutely nothing to the film, only a distraction. The movie worked best during its quiet moments as the two men were faced with their dilemma. The flashback stuff added background story, but I felt it wasn't necessary to see it.

That being said, the potential of the first film's quiet-to-increasingly-noisy-grand-guignol-waiting-godot was laid to waste with all the unnecessary elements. The unnecessary elements are what drove the sequels, at which the structure and formula had been more polished and the style started to fit. So as a series, it started to work as a whole. Still, part 1 stands out as a sore thumb as a potential experimental hit.

Oh well, thanks to conventions and a cash driven market, we have a series in which the sequels have a better idea of what the material is worth than the first. Of course if the first was done right, there would be no sequels.

Dilemma.

Anyway, will be seeing part VI this weekend. i.e. Top-shelf-middlebrow-more-of-the-same. I'm content with that.

[rhett]

I guess you can call me a fan of the series. i didn't even watch them until V was nearly done with its theatrical run. I think the first film was somewhat admirable, but its structure was not that impressive and the MTV-styled editing brought absolutely nothing to the film, only a distraction. The movie worked best during its quiet moments as the two men were faced with their dilemma. The flashback stuff added background story, but I felt it wasn't necessary to see it.

That being said, the potential of the first film's quiet-to-increasingly-noisy-grand-guignol-waiting-godot was laid to waste with all the unnecessary elements. The unnecessary elements are what drove the sequels, at which the structure and formula had been more polished and the style started to fit. So as a series, it started to work as a whole. Still, part 1 stands out as a sore thumb as a potential experimental hit.

Oh well, thanks to conventions and a cash driven market, we have a series in which the sequels have a better idea of what the material is worth than the first. Of course if the first was done right, there would be no sequels.

Dilemma.

Anyway, will be seeing part VI this weekend. i.e. Top-shelf-middlebrow-more-of-the-same. I'm content with that.

Yeah, the first is sort of like FRIDAY THE 13TH in the way that it was uber-derivative (be it HALLOWEEN or SE7EN) but created an interesting locale (secluded, trap ridden rooms or an idyllic campground) and an interesting and untapped villain (Jigsaw or Jason) that could expanded and, as you say, polished, for the sequels.

The second is so trashy, gory and over-the-top you sort of admire how it appeals to the lowest common denominator. The third was bogged way too much in tying up loose ends for me. It was with this latter trilogy, 4, 5 and 6 that for me the series really found its footing (I guess like FRIDAY 2, 3 and 4) by pushing Jigsaw to the forefront and exploring his past. Six looks, feels and plays out just like all the other films, so the director is really irrelevant in this assembly line. I credit the enduring appeal of the series to the 4th film jolt the FEAST guys gave to the film when they took over the writing reins. They're the auteurs of the series, for me.

As for how the sixth film stacks up, it's not as inventive or as enjoyably retrospective and convoluted as 4 & 5, but still delivers the goods of some nasty moral dilemmas, wicked gore and most importantly, Tobin back story. Looking back again opened up a few great revisions to the events of previous films to make everything seem all the more clear. Considering how much 4 & 5 worked to setup elements for further sequels I'm actually quite surprised how self-contained this narrative is. By the end there really aren't many extraneous questions left. There's a few (where the fuck is Cary Elwes?) but other than a few finishing tweaks this could easily have wrapped the series up, and at the time they were making this that was certainly the intent. I'm glad we're at least getting a seventh, though. There's no other horror tradition I look forward to more these days than seeing SAW every weekend before Halloween.

Hopefully that trend continues, though. The audience, at least in my theater, definitely suffered a major hemorrhage this year compared to the consistency of all the others. My theater is the busiest in the city and it was the 8:00PM show and it wasn't even half full. Before I blame it on dwindling interest though, I'd probably peg it more on a crowded horror market place, especially with the surging word of mouth and expansion of PARANORMAL ACTIVITY. HALLOWEEN 2 got hit pretty hard when it went up against THE FINAL DESTINATION, I'm wondering if that will be the case this weekend. I don't think it will be as severe a gap as those two, but I no doubt expect SAW to take a sizable hit.

Regardless of the box office, this is a series that still amazingly has life in its sixth kick and I'm already waiting for more. If I had to rank them at this point:

4, 5, 2, 6, 3, 1

Tobin's health-care rant was indeed awesome. Hopefully he tackles the stock market for round seven!

[mclay18]

Saw it today. Disgusting, eye-rolling and putrid. I get that the series is about people being ensnared in deadly traps and have to make decisions based on ripping limbs off to save themselves or kill someone else to do it. But it's just more of the same, it tries to be "smart" and complex but it ended up confusing me (especially the last bit of flashback scenes coupled with Costas Mandylor trying to get his head out of the headtrap and barely succeeding).

It almost had me rethinking my stance on Halloween 2 as the worst horror film of the year. Almost, but not quite. Fans of the franchise will eat it up, but count me out.

[mcchrist]

Yeah, the first is sort of like FRIDAY THE 13TH in the way that it was uber-derivative (be it HALLOWEEN or SE7EN) but created an interesting locale (secluded, trap ridden rooms or an idyllic campground) and an interesting and untapped villain (Jigsaw or Jason) that could expanded and, as you say, polished, for the sequels.

The second is so trashy, gory and over-the-top you sort of admire how it appeals to the lowest common denominator. The third was bogged way too much in tying up loose ends for me. It was with this latter trilogy, 4, 5 and 6 that for me the series really found its footing (I guess like FRIDAY 2, 3 and 4) by pushing Jigsaw to the forefront and exploring his past. Six looks, feels and plays out just like all the other films, so the director is really irrelevant in this assembly line. I credit the enduring appeal of the series to the 4th film jolt the FEAST guys gave to the film when they took over the writing reins. They're the auteurs of the series, for me.

As for how the sixth film stacks up, it's not as inventive or as enjoyably retrospective and convoluted as 4 & 5, but still delivers the goods of some nasty moral dilemmas, wicked gore and most importantly, Tobin back story. Looking back again opened up a few great revisions to the events of previous films to make everything seem all the more clear. Considering how much 4 & 5 worked to setup elements for further sequels I'm actually quite surprised how self-contained this narrative is. By the end there really aren't many extraneous questions left. There's a few (where the fuck is Cary Elwes?) but other than a few finishing tweaks this could easily have wrapped the series up, and at the time they were making this that was certainly the intent. I'm glad we're at least getting a seventh, though. There's no other horror tradition I look forward to more these days than seeing SAW every weekend before Halloween.

Hopefully that trend continues, though. The audience, at least in my theater, definitely suffered a major hemorrhage this year compared to the consistency of all the others. My theater is the busiest in the city and it was the 8:00PM show and it wasn't even half full. Before I blame it on dwindling interest though, I'd probably peg it more on a crowded horror market place, especially with the surging word of mouth and expansion of PARANORMAL ACTIVITY. HALLOWEEN 2 got hit pretty hard when it went up against THE FINAL DESTINATION, I'm wondering if that will be the case this weekend. I don't think it will be as severe a gap as those two, but I no doubt expect SAW to take a sizable hit.

Regardless of the box office, this is a series that still amazingly has life in its sixth kick and I'm already waiting for more. If I had to rank them at this point:

4, 5, 2, 6, 3, 1

Tobin's health-care rant was indeed awesome. Hopefully he tackles the stock market for round seven!

I don't know what to think about this one. Came back a little while ago. It is what it is, a Saw movie. This time add the politics and a bit of back story that makes Jigsaw a lot less complex and more human, which for me is pretty much close to the end for me. I don't see much momentum from here on end, but I did enjoy it nonetheless.

[indiephantom]

Agree with Rhett's comments about enjoying the changes in 4-6. I actually only watched the last three this year. Part 3 had put me off the series for awhile. I was a huge fan of the original having seen it without much hype when it premiered at the Toronto film fest.

This was good, but a bit weaker than 4 and 5 in some respects. The acting was very strong, though. I probably will have to break down and buy all of these on BD eventually. I think it's a solid franchise.

[fattyjoe37]

I liked the first, but have felt that each installment has been worse than the last. This was no exception.

[Anthropophagus]

Saw it today. Disgusting, eye-rolling and putrid. I get that the series is about people being ensnared in deadly traps and have to make decisions based on ripping limbs off to save themselves or kill someone else to do it. But it's just more of the same, it tries to be "smart" and complex but it ended up confusing me (especially the last bit of flashback scenes coupled with Costas Mandylor trying to get his head out of the headtrap and barely succeeding).

It almost had me rethinking my stance on Halloween 2 as the worst horror film of the year. Almost, but not quite. Fans of the franchise will eat it up, but count me out.


Agreed, my interest waned after the first entry and even that did not stand up for a second viewing. Shawnee Smith was nice to look at in the second, but by the third my interest was nil. I really don't think this series has the type of legacy that Halloween has, so I could care less if they go up to Saw 50. I think it's already dead in the water.

[rhett]

Well, PARANORMAL ACTIVITY was able to finally sink the 6 film Halloween stalwart. SAW had consistently opened to above $30M from 2 to 5, but the 6th is coming in at a huge cut of just under $15M. Ouch. Funny, though, it's actually getting the best reviews a SAW sequel has ever had, hovering around 44% (2 was 36%, 3 was 25%, 4 was 18% and 5 was 15%). Still, it shouldn't matter too much in the long run, since with the next film in 3D it'll pack in an audience regardless.

[WesReviews]

Watched this Friday and liked it. Much better than 3-5. While I think the web the series has woven is interesting and unique to the horror genre, I still prefer the simplicity of the original idea and think that the sequels have been far too focused on tying up loose ends/creating new loose ends, and less about suspense or scaring the audience. The traps also keep getting weaker and weaker with each new film.

[promnight13]

It's a shame that SAW 6 really underdelivered at the B.O. since it was a really entertaining ride - the best since III for sure. Some of the most craziest traps ever and some awesome twists.

Two things happened here: PARAMORMAL came out of nowhere to steal its thunder and SAW V was really bad - which obviously left some negative residue on the franchise to fans and critics.

[SEANVALEN]

It's a shame that SAW 6 really underdelivered at the B.O. since it was a really entertaining ride - the best since III for sure. Some of the most craziest traps ever and some awesome twists.

Two things happened here: PARAMORMAL came out of nowhere to steal its thunder and SAW V was really bad - which obviously left some negative residue on the franchise to fans and critics.



Give it at least to halloween before we look at box office, it was a slow weekend, apart from Paranormal Acticity, alot of new horror films flopped, Saw openeing with 14 million on a 11 million budget, position 2, for a 6th sequel, not too bad, maybe word of the mouth in how good it is, will catch around. Either way it's going to turn a profit, I just think too many people are automatically assuming it has no competition everyyear, can't win them all, but neither has it failed either, it's opening world wide, then dvds, 11 million budget is the cool ticket for lionsgate, they win any way. What a great studio!!!




Well, PARANORMAL ACTIVITY was able to finally sink the 6 film Halloween stalwart. SAW had consistently opened to above $30M from 2 to 5, but the 6th is coming in at a huge cut of just under $15M. Ouch. Funny, though, it's actually getting the best reviews a SAW sequel has ever had, hovering around 44% (2 was 36%, 3 was 25%, 4 was 18% and 5 was 15%). Still, it shouldn't matter too much in the long run, since with the next film in 3D it'll pack in an audience regardless.


I'm going to watch it tomorrow Rhett LEGEND. I\ll be reporting on the UK box office. And will write my review here.

[spawningblue]

Forget to mention I work with the guy who played one of the victims in the movie. Don't know which one as I haven't seen the movie but kind of cool none the less. According to IMDB his character's name is Eddie.

[SEANVALEN]

Forget to mention I work with the guy who played one of the victims in the movie. Don't know which one as I haven't seen the movie but kind of cool none the less. According to IMDB his character's name is Eddie.


That's cool.
Maybe Eddie can put in a word for you on Saw 7 3D, and we get to see you killed in a trap.

[spawningblue]

That's cool.
Maybe Eddie can put in a word for you on Saw 7 3D, and we get to see you killed in a trap.

haha Yeah that would be sweet!

[SEANVALEN]

Well, PARANORMAL ACTIVITY was able to finally sink the 6 film Halloween stalwart. SAW had consistently opened to above $30M from 2 to 5, but the 6th is coming in at a huge cut of just under $15M. Ouch. Funny, though, it's actually getting the best reviews a SAW sequel has ever had, hovering around 44% (2 was 36%, 3 was 25%, 4 was 18% and 5 was 15%). Still, it shouldn't matter too much in the long run, since with the next film in 3D it'll pack in an audience regardless.

Watched this Friday and liked it. Much better than 3-5. While I think the web the series has woven is interesting and unique to the horror genre, I still prefer the simplicity of the original idea and think that the sequels have been far too focused on tying up loose ends/creating new loose ends, and less about suspense or scaring the audience. The traps also keep getting weaker and weaker with each new film.


Just got back from watching it tonight, and my VERDICT IS,
BEST SAW FILM OF THEM ALL!
Rhett Legend menstions it's gotten the best reviews a Saw sequel has ever had.


It's the sixth film, while this is not a weakness, from the outside, it has a effect, when you say part six of anything, people are sceptical, because the longer a series runs, the more chances are of a bad turn, calling it Saw 6 is it's strength and weakness, it's loyal to the series and laws of the series, but it makes it difficult maybe for someone who isn't into the series, in this respect, I think a casual moviegoer, or teen who was too young to get into the first Saw film 5 years ago, might not be ready for this.

I think like someone else said in a previous post I've seen on here, it's the connections between films that you enjoy as much as the clever traps, it seems all logical, it's like a puzzle, and now your looking at the series as whole, and not just a film or two. Those who saw Saw 1, 2 and left it there don't get the crust of the series, it's a book now, you don't give up on chapter 2 etc, get half away at least, up to Saw 3/4, then you'll feel some substance, Saw 1 is not the representation of the series, it just cannot project what it's going to turn into.


Talking about part 6, I really enjoyed the use of Tobin Bell, I kinda didn't feel his presense enough in part 5, but in part 6, the way he was used just was exceptionally well done, you feel his philosophy, and this is interwoven with everything else. And what made me really like Part 6 more so then the other sequels, are that the victims, or those close to death, or those in control of others deaths, they had alot more to say, it felt more dramatic, and their seemed to be good reason for everything, their seemed to be a equalbrium, and what felt right and wrong was really a grey area, in this sequel more then the others, the level of detail in the planning was exceptional and fasinating.


I think part 5 lacked a high gear, it was good, but it perhaps didn't have that John Kramer conviction of philosophy, and I think that makes the heartbeat of a Saw film, the justification of the game has to be handled in the only way John Kramer does, and here it is.


Saw 6 I think will be the Blade Runner of the fanchise, Blade Runner itself didn't set the box office alite on release, but became huge years after, and I think part 6 of Saw needs it's own time to thread through it's audience, being the 6th sequel in a horror fanchise is hardwork, because their are too many misconceptioons about fanchises in horror that run this long, and I think Saw has had such a cool run, everyone is still catching up, but that's the way it should be, in the long run, hopefully it finishes at least to Saw 8 where it's said the current storyline ends.


SAW 6 felt just slick, good direction, good acting, good use of established characters past and present, and good progression.

[Ash28M]

Well I finally got a change to check out the latest Saw installment. Overall it thought it was quite entertaining. Not as good as the first two but I thought it was easily the third best of the franchise. It had some nice traps and plot that wasn't as convoluted as some of the others. The one things that bugged and hopefully someone could explain this to me..


When the medical insurance guy was up against the smoker in that first trap. What would of happened it the smoker got free and he didn't? Everything else about the setup was geared towards the insurance guy.

[baggio]

Well I finally got a change to check out the latest Saw installment. Overall it thought it was quite entertaining. Not as good as the first two but I thought it was easily the third best of the franchise. It had some nice traps and plot that wasn't as convoluted as some of the others. The one things that bugged and hopefully someone could explain this to me..


When the medical insurance guy was up against the smoker in that first trap. What would of happened it the smoker got free and he didn't? Everything else about the setup was geared towards the insurance guy.

Your right. The movie would have been over.

It really was the only trap that pitted the insurance guy against another. Only one would survive. I guess they figured the smoker would have a zero chance. But its still a minor plot hole.

[MisterTwister]

I wouldn't call it a plot hole.

Jigsaw figured there was no way in hell someone who has been smoking that long could beat someone who is much healthier. There was a very slim chance William wouldn't win.

[Ash28M]

I wouldn't call it a plot hole.

Jigsaw figured there was no way in hell someone who has been smoking that long could beat someone who is much healthier. There was a very slim chance William wouldn't win.

I wouldn't say there was no way in hell. I've heard tons of stories of NHL hockey players a few years back smoking 2-3 packs a day and still being the best player on the team. Heck I play on hockey team and most of the guys smoke and some of them have more stamina then I do and I work out all the time. It really all depends on the person. Also wasn't it Jigsaw who said the one thing an insurance company never figures on is the persons will to live. Making an assumption like that would go against what he believes in.

[fceurich39]

i liked saw VI better than parts IV AND V

[baggio]

Also wasn't it Jigsaw who said the one thing an insurance company never figures on is the persons will to live. Making an assumption like that would go against what he believes in.

Exactly, that's why I said it was a minor plot hole. Good thing it was in the beginning of his "tasks". Either way it was obvious that he would make it through the task.

As for the other stuff - all the other traps, didn't effect his life. He had to make moral decisions, etc... And yes some involved some pain along the way for the insurance guy. But he was supposed to make it to the end alive. Which brings back to the point of that first trap. Why not make that trap like the others? Helping out the people survive, picking & choosing. Maybe he would have had to blow into a tube to push the air back into the unit to save a healthy or the smoker guy or something like that.

[HellRazor]

I'll have to watch this tonight so I can read the spoilers and stop being confused. :)

[HoldenMcNeil]

Saw VI was fucking great.

[MisterTwister]

I wouldn't say there was no way in hell. I've heard tons of stories of NHL hockey players a few years back smoking 2-3 packs a day and still being the best player on the team. Heck I play on hockey team and most of the guys smoke and some of them have more stamina then I do and I work out all the time. It really all depends on the person. Also wasn't it Jigsaw who said the one thing an insurance company never figures on is the persons will to live. Making an assumption like that would go against what he believes in.

Well I guess Jigsaw took a gamble with William and assumed he would win. What if though, what if...

[aoiookami]

Watched this last night on the net, as I have for all the Saw movies except the first one, as they have been getting progressively worse each entry imo. Plot holes, and completely nonsensical and far-fetched motives aside, these movies just keep getting more bloated and convoluted each entry. There are so many loose ends all they can do is have a flashback every 5 minutes to keep things relatively on track, I feel like I'm watching an episode of LOST or something.

Even ignoring this, Jigaws motives are completely ridiculous, as they have always been. So the entire point is to get this guy to realize the error of his ways, the preciousness of human life and not to take for granted peoples' will to survive....and how do they do this? By abducting innocent people and murdering them. Makes sense. I dont blame the director for not wanting to work on the next one.

[baggio]

So the entire point is to get this guy to realize the error of his ways, the preciousness of human life and not to take for granted peoples' will to survive....and how do they do this? By abducting innocent people and murdering them.

Actually a lot of those people(except a couple) worked in the same business as William. Not making excuses for the script, but maybe that was the rational of their deaths. They were are part of the insurance co, part of the problem etc...

[JIMX1975]

Really liked this movie in the theater. Does anyone have the blu-ray? If so how does it look?